Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Steve Jones]

I thought so as well when i saw them at home depot

On Dec 19, 2017 12:08 PM, "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com> wrote:

> Thanks, I could have sworn I read on the back packaging of a set of
> Platinum Tools crimpers "made by KleinTools"
> a few years ago...Must have dreamed it.
>
> On 12/19/2017 12:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Here you go.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 19, 2017 10:50 AM, "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jaime,
>> Would it be possible to post a picture of the back of that package?
>> I have a theory I would like to confirm.
>>
>> On 12/19/2017 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Got these at Cable Source for 78.00
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2017 10:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Like this
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2017 10:45 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We moved to all Shireen stuff, the EZ connectors make it more accurate
>>>> and faster.  It's a couple bucks more but well worth it considering time is
>>>> expensive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you seen Jaime's work ?
>>>>>
>>>>> While using factory terminated patch cables, saves times.. but it is
>>>>> not easy to have the meticulous, neat and organized cable runs, cause each
>>>>> one has to be sized accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> To each their own !
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <%28305%29%20663-5518>
>>>>>
>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <%28305%29%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:24:48 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>>>>>
>>>>> other than experiencing some really questionable gigabit connectivity
>>>>> issues and maddening issues with packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45
>>>>> ends valuabled in top end cross connects and radio terminations, 
>>>>> everything
>>>>> else should be punched down to cat5/6 inserts and factory terminated patch
>>>>> cables
>>>>> why touch your cabling infrastructure?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez
>>>>>> crimpers. Fresh blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using
>>>>>> the real connectors and not knock offs)
>>>>>> moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not
>>>>>> the connector thats the issue
>>>>>> the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully
>>>>>> cleave, instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
>>>>>> the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an
>>>>>> issue, but more than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge
>>>>>> that arced or you are directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind
>>>>>> the remaining insulation
>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jerry Head]

Thanks, I could have sworn I read on the back packaging of a set of 
Platinum Tools crimpers "made by KleinTools"

a few years ago...Must have dreamed it.

On 12/19/2017 12:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Here you go.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 19, 2017 10:50 AM, "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com 
<mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>> wrote:


Hi Jaime,
Would it be possible to post a picture of the back of that package?
I have a theory I would like to confirm.

On 12/19/2017 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Got these at Cable Source for 78.00

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 15, 2017 10:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Like this

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 15, 2017 10:45 AM, "Josh Luthman"
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

We moved to all Shireen stuff, the EZ connectors make it
more accurate and faster.  It's a couple bucks more but
well worth it considering time is expensive.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
Suite 1337

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
Troy, OH 45373

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net
<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:

Have you seen Jaime's work ?

While using factory terminated patch cables, saves
times.. but it is not easy to have the meticulous,
neat and organized cable runs, cause each one has to
be sized accordingly.

:)

To each their own !

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>




*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
        *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:24:48 AM

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

other than experiencing some really questionable
gigabit connectivity issues and maddening issues
with packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45
ends valuabled in top end cross connects and
radio terminations, everything else should be
punched down to cat5/6 inserts and factory
terminated patch cables
why touch your cabling infrastructure?

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

the biggest cause of failure is not
maintaining the blades on ez crimpers. Fresh
blades and the ends have zero non ID10T
errors (if using the real connectors and not
knock offs)
moisture --- if you have a drop of water in
the connector, its not the connector thats
the issue
the brown is normally the first indicator, it
catches doesnt fully cleave, instinct is to
pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
the next thing is they start beveling --- now
moisture can be an issue, but more than
likely that scorch, its cause you took a
small surge that arced or you are directly
shorting (the copper likes to hide behind the
remaining insulation

maintain your blades, they chew through
blades fast

dont use cable thats too snug on the
insulation, 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

Give me a second...

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 19, 2017 10:50 AM, "Jerry Head" <li...@blountbroadband.com> wrote:

> Hi Jaime,
> Would it be possible to post a picture of the back of that package?
> I have a theory I would like to confirm.
>
> On 12/19/2017 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Got these at Cable Source for 78.00
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 15, 2017 10:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Like this
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2017 10:45 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We moved to all Shireen stuff, the EZ connectors make it more accurate
>>> and faster.  It's a couple bucks more but well worth it considering time is
>>> expensive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you seen Jaime's work ?
>>>>
>>>> While using factory terminated patch cables, saves times.. but it is
>>>> not easy to have the meticulous, neat and organized cable runs, cause each
>>>> one has to be sized accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> To each their own !
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <%28305%29%20663-5518>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <%28305%29%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:24:48 AM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>>>>
>>>> other than experiencing some really questionable gigabit connectivity
>>>> issues and maddening issues with packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45
>>>> ends valuabled in top end cross connects and radio terminations, everything
>>>> else should be punched down to cat5/6 inserts and factory terminated patch
>>>> cables
>>>> why touch your cabling infrastructure?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez
>>>>> crimpers. Fresh blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using
>>>>> the real connectors and not knock offs)
>>>>> moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not the
>>>>> connector thats the issue
>>>>> the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully
>>>>> cleave, instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
>>>>> the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an
>>>>> issue, but more than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge
>>>>> that arced or you are directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind
>>>>> the remaining insulation
>>>>>
>>>>> maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast
>>>>>
>>>>> dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation, it can roll the
>>>>> crimp, but the garbage cable is probably going to be a problem anyway
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
>>>>>> cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
>>>>>> now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jerry Head]

Hi Jaime,
Would it be possible to post a picture of the back of that package?
I have a theory I would like to confirm.

On 12/19/2017 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Got these at Cable Source for 78.00

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 15, 2017 10:59 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Like this

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 15, 2017 10:45 AM, "Josh Luthman"
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:

We moved to all Shireen stuff, the EZ connectors make it more
accurate and faster.  It's a couple bucks more but well worth
it considering time is expensive.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
Suite 1337

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
Troy, OH 45373

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>>
wrote:

Have you seen Jaime's work ?

While using factory terminated patch cables, saves times..
but it is not easy to have the meticulous, neat and
organized cable runs, cause each one has to be sized
accordingly.

:)

To each their own !

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> Option
2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:24:48 AM

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

other than experiencing some really questionable
gigabit connectivity issues and maddening issues with
packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45 ends
valuabled in top end cross connects and radio
terminations, everything else should be punched down
to cat5/6 inserts and factory terminated patch cables
why touch your cabling infrastructure?

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining
the blades on ez crimpers. Fresh blades and the
ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using the real
connectors and not knock offs)
moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the
connector, its not the connector thats the issue
the brown is normally the first indicator, it
catches doesnt fully cleave, instinct is to pull
it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
the next thing is they start beveling --- now
moisture can be an issue, but more than likely
that scorch, its cause you took a small surge that
arced or you are directly shorting (the copper
likes to hide behind the remaining insulation

maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast

dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation,
it can roll the crimp, but the garbage cable is
probably going to be a problem anyway


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not having issue with moisture...the cable
slide guides on some allow cables to be
pinched enough to fail even though pin out is
correct.   For now I am going to attribute to
my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Josh Luthman]

We moved to all Shireen stuff, the EZ connectors make it more accurate and
faster.  It's a couple bucks more but well worth it considering time is
expensive.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> Have you seen Jaime's work ?
>
> While using factory terminated patch cables, saves times.. but it is not
> easy to have the meticulous, neat and organized cable runs, cause each one
> has to be sized accordingly.
>
> :)
>
> To each their own !
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:24:48 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>
> other than experiencing some really questionable gigabit connectivity
> issues and maddening issues with packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45
> ends valuabled in top end cross connects and radio terminations, everything
> else should be punched down to cat5/6 inserts and factory terminated patch
> cables
> why touch your cabling infrastructure?
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez
>> crimpers. Fresh blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using
>> the real connectors and not knock offs)
>> moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not the
>> connector thats the issue
>> the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully
>> cleave, instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
>> the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an issue,
>> but more than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge that
>> arced or you are directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind the
>> remaining insulation
>>
>> maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast
>>
>> dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation, it can roll the crimp,
>> but the garbage cable is probably going to be a problem anyway
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
>>> cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
>>> now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
>>> will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jaime,
>>>>
>>>> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last
>>>> 10 years or so ? )
>>>> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised
>>>> if the Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.
>>>>
>>>> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we
>>>> have seen that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.
>>>>
>>>> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
>>>> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of
>>>> 'superlube' with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the
>>>> moisture out of the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously'
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>>>>
>>>> Yep...I agree
>>>>
>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Have you seen Jaime's work ? 

While using factory terminated patch cables, saves times.. but it is not easy 
to have the meticulous, neat and organized cable runs, cause each one has to be 
sized accordingly. 

:) 

To each their own ! 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:24:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

> other than experiencing some really questionable gigabit connectivity issues 
> and
> maddening issues with packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45 ends valuabled
> in top end cross connects and radio terminations, everything else should be
> punched down to cat5/6 inserts and factory terminated patch cables
> why touch your cabling infrastructure?

> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
> wrote:

>> the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez crimpers. 
>> Fresh
>> blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using the real connectors
>> and not knock offs)
>> moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not the 
>> connector
>> thats the issue
>> the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully cleave,
>> instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
>> the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an issue, but 
>> more
>> than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge that arced or you 
>> are
>> directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind the remaining insulation

>> maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast

>> dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation, it can roll the crimp, but 
>> the
>> garbage cable is probably going to be a problem anyway

>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>> wrote:

>>> Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow 
>>> cables to
>>> be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct. For now I am 
>>> going to
>>> attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I will buy one this 
>>> week.
>>> Thanks for heads up

>>> Jaime Solorza

>>> On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote:

>>>> Jaime,

>>>> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last 10 
>>>> years
>>>> or so ? )
>>>> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised if 
>>>> the
>>>> Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.

>>>> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we have 
>>>> seen
>>>> that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.

>>>> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
>>>> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of 
>>>> 'superlube'
>>>> with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the moisture out 
>>>> of
>>>> the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously' )

>>>> Regards

>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net

>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com >
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

>>>>> Yep...I agree

>>>>> Jaime Solorza

>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

>>>>>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

>>>>>>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I 
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> looking at Klein one.

>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza

>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

>>>>>>>> Pas

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Steve Jones]

other than experiencing some really questionable gigabit connectivity
issues and maddening issues with packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45
ends valuabled in top end cross connects and radio terminations, everything
else should be punched down to cat5/6 inserts and factory terminated patch
cables
why touch your cabling infrastructure?

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez crimpers.
> Fresh blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using the real
> connectors and not knock offs)
> moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not the
> connector thats the issue
> the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully cleave,
> instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
> the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an issue,
> but more than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge that
> arced or you are directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind the
> remaining insulation
>
> maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast
>
> dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation, it can roll the crimp,
> but the garbage cable is probably going to be a problem anyway
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
>> cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
>> now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
>> will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jaime,
>>>
>>> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last
>>> 10 years or so ? )
>>> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised
>>> if the Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.
>>>
>>> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we
>>> have seen that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.
>>>
>>> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
>>> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of
>>> 'superlube' with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the
>>> moisture out of the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously'
>>> )
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>>>
>>> Yep...I agree
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I
>>>> am looking at Klein one.
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done
>>>>> from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different
>>>>>> in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies
>>>>>> for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>>>>>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>>>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
>>>>>> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-
>>>>>> bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>>>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.
>>>>>> Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Steve Jones]

the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez crimpers.
Fresh blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using the real
connectors and not knock offs)
moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not the
connector thats the issue
the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully cleave,
instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an issue, but
more than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge that arced
or you are directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind the remaining
insulation

maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast

dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation, it can roll the crimp, but
the garbage cable is probably going to be a problem anyway


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
> cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
> now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
> will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>
>> Jaime,
>>
>> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last 10
>> years or so ? )
>> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised
>> if the Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.
>>
>> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we have
>> seen that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.
>>
>> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
>> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of
>> 'superlube' with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the
>> moisture out of the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously'
>> )
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>>
>> Yep...I agree
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I
>>> am looking at Klein one.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done
>>>> from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-
>>>>> Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIE
>>>>> ZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025&
>>>>> creative=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-
>>>>> e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.
>>>>> Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

> Jaime,
>
> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last 10
> years or so ? )
> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised if
> the Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.
>
> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we have
> seen that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.
>
> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of
> 'superlube' with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the
> moisture out of the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously'
> )
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>
> Yep...I agree
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I
>> am looking at Klein one.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/
>>>> B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
>>>> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.
>>>> Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>>> thanks
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Jaime, 

We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last 10 years 
or so ? ) 
Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised if the 
Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools. 

In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we have seen 
that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors. 

Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues.. 
(p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of 'superlube' 
with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the moisture out of 
the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously' ) 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

> Yep...I agree

> Jaime Solorza

> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

>>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
>>> looking at Klein one.

>>> Jaime Solorza

>>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

>>>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors? Only the RJ45 is done from 
>>>> the end.
>>>> The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

>>>>> does it work with pass through connectors?

>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>> 915-861-1390

>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > 
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in 
>>>>>> that you
>>>>>> insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for all 
>>>>>> the usual
>>>>>> suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.

>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

>>>>>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>>>>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues. Luckily 
>>>>>>> I had a
>>>>>>> spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>>> 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

They are "easy" if you have never done an RJ45 before, and you can 
verify the colors easier after insertion. However, they leave the end 
open for water & air intrusion. On outdoor connections, we almost always 
use gel-filled cable, and when you crimp them properly, they fill the 
RJ45 with gel. We like those a lot.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/13/2017 10:40 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I've never used those.  Seems like people either love em or hate em.
I imagine it must be easier to maintain the maximum untwist amount. 
 It seems like you could keep shoving the wires through until you only 
have the 1/4" of untwisted wire you're looking for.  That's pure 
speculation though.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>

To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 12/13/2017 1:30:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all 
kinds of problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on 
Canopy SMs, the release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having 
said that, I still have a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and 
they work fine.


On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45
connectors so I am looking at Klein one.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors? Only the RJ45
is done from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as
is typical).

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 <tel:%28915%29%20861-1390>

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a
little different in that you insert the RJ45 from the
end instead of the side. I have dies for all the usual
suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65

<https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65>

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused
some issues.  Luckily I had a spare...looking at the
Klein one but open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 <tel:%28915%29%20861-1390>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

The quality of connectors is suspect...

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 11:40 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've never used those.  Seems like people either love em or hate em.
I imagine it must be easier to maintain the maximum untwist amount.  It
seems like you could keep shoving the wires through until you only have the
1/4" of untwisted wire you're looking for.  That's pure speculation though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 12/13/2017 1:30:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all kinds of
problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on Canopy SMs, the
release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having said that, I still have
a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and they work fine.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
> looking at Klein one.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953
>>> SIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>> thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Adam Moffett]

I've never used those.  Seems like people either love em or hate em.
I imagine it must be easier to maintain the maximum untwist amount.  It 
seems like you could keep shoving the wires through until you only have 
the 1/4" of untwisted wire you're looking for.  That's pure speculation 
though.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 12/13/2017 1:30:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all kinds 
of problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on Canopy SMs, 
the release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having said that, I 
still have a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and they work fine.


On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so 
I am looking at Klein one.


Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done 
from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 <tel:%28915%29%20861-1390>

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little 
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the 
side. I have dies for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N 
connectors, etc.



https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65 
<https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65>


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  
Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to 
suggestions.

thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 <tel:%28915%29%20861-1390>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jason McKemie]

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all kinds of
problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on Canopy SMs, the
release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having said that, I still have
a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and they work fine.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
> looking at Klein one.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
>>> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>> thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Robert Andrews]

Partially because they just love to have dampness across the ends for 
developing shorts...


On 12/13/2017 10:19 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Yep...I agree

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:


Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors
so I am looking at Klein one.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:

Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is
done from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is
typical).

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince
> wrote:

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end
instead of the side. I have dies for all the usual
suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65



bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some
issues. Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one
but open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep...I agree

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
> looking at Klein one.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
>>> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>> thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so 
I am looking at Klein one.


Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:


Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is
done from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of
the side. I have dies for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11,
BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65



bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some
issues. Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but
open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
looking at Klein one.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> does it work with pass through connectors?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-
>> Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIE
>> ZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025&
>> creative=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-
>> e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>> thanks
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from 
the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).


bp


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:


I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the
side. I have dies for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N
connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65



bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues. 
Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to
suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/
> B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily I
> had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
> thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in 
that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies 
for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65

bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  
Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.

thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

[AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily I
had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390