Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jaime Solorza]

Never been an LMR fanboy

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:51 PM Jeremy  wrote:

> I'm with Steve.  I spent way too much time removing LMR from towers to
> turn back now!
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>> LTE has some characteristics that are desirable from a operation in NLOS
>> and difficult conditions and there is certainly a desire in the market to
>> have a non-proprietary solution available for the customers who require
>> that.Some WISP’s are much more of a investment vehicle and looking to
>> outside financing or acquisition than others.  Investors don’t like single
>> supplier solutions and it’s difficult to explain the value to them.
>>
>> On the other hand if you want a best in class product for LOS
>> environments and are less concerned about the investment value and more
>> concerned about performance and quality service the proprietary solutions
>> can be a better answer.
>>
>> Cambium’s just trying to make sure they have a product for both types of
>> customers.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> > On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>> >
>> > I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why
>> not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of
>> LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
>> >
>> > Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> >> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>> >> An: af@afmug.com
>> >> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>> >>
>> >> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jeremy]

I'm with Steve.  I spent way too much time removing LMR from towers to turn
back now!

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> LTE has some characteristics that are desirable from a operation in NLOS
> and difficult conditions and there is certainly a desire in the market to
> have a non-proprietary solution available for the customers who require
> that.Some WISP’s are much more of a investment vehicle and looking to
> outside financing or acquisition than others.  Investors don’t like single
> supplier solutions and it’s difficult to explain the value to them.
>
> On the other hand if you want a best in class product for LOS environments
> and are less concerned about the investment value and more concerned about
> performance and quality service the proprietary solutions can be a better
> answer.
>
> Cambium’s just trying to make sure they have a product for both types of
> customers.
>
> Mark
>
> > On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
> >
> > I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why
> not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of
> LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
> >
> > Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.
> >
> >
> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
> >> An: af@afmug.com
> >> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
> >>
> >> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Mark Radabaugh]

LTE has some characteristics that are desirable from a operation in NLOS and 
difficult conditions and there is certainly a desire in the market to have a 
non-proprietary solution available for the customers who require that.Some 
WISP’s are much more of a investment vehicle and looking to outside financing 
or acquisition than others.  Investors don’t like single supplier solutions and 
it’s difficult to explain the value to them.

On the other hand if you want a best in class product for LOS environments and 
are less concerned about the investment value and more concerned about 
performance and quality service the proprietary solutions can be a better 
answer.

Cambium’s just trying to make sure they have a product for both types of 
customers.

Mark

> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
> 
> I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why not 
> develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of LTE. 
> I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
> 
> Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
> 
> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>> An: af@afmug.com
>> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>> 
>> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

I don’t know yet Keefe.  I just know that’s what they are doing.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> How does that work exactly?
> 
>> On March 25, 2018 3:32:41 PM CDT, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  
>> wrote:
>> They are going to use the 3GHz 450m with an additional device at the tower.  
>> The CPE will have to be different though.
>> 
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> CTIconnect
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>> 
>>>  On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>>  
>>>  I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why 
>>> not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of 
>>> LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
>>>  
>>>  Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>>  -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>>  Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>>>>  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>>>>  An: af@afmug.com
>>>>  Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>>>>  
>>>>  What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>>>  
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Keefe John]

How does that work exactly?

On March 25, 2018 3:32:41 PM CDT, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  
wrote:
>They are going to use the 3GHz 450m with an additional device at the
>tower.  The CPE will have to be different though.
>
>Jeff Broadwick
>CTIconnect
>312-205-2519 Office
>574-220-7826 Cell
>jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>> 
>> I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform.
>Why not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer
>goodies of LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know
>where this ended up.
>> 
>> Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
>> 
>> 
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>>> An: af@afmug.com
>>> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>>> 
>>> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>> 

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Stefan Englhardt]

Regardless if they call it LTE+ or 5g. Stuff gets faster, latency goes down and 
more spectrum is used for increased capacity. And of course a marketing 
buzzword is needed. In some places LTE is realy fast now already. This carrier 
stuff is using spectrum very efficient.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: David M  
Datum: 27.03.18  02:42  (GMT+01:00) 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[David M]

Shh! thats a secret!



On 3/25/2018 3:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

5G is overrated and is just more LTE anyway.



-
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*From: *"Stefan Englhardt" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:04:11 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. 
Why not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer 
goodies of LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know 
where this ended up.


Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>
> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Adam Moffett]

You have a point there.  LTE comes with a lot of baggage that nobody 
wants.  I don't want "LTE" specifically, I just want it to work with few 
trees in the way.


I'm sure they thought of that and have their reasons.


-- Original Message --
From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/25/2018 8:04:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why 
not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies 
of LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this 
ended up.


Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Gino A. Villarini]

That is not the way LTE - BBU to Rru data path worksŠ they use fiber with
CPRI interface

https://www.commscope.com/Blog/CommScope-Definitions-What-Is-CPRI/


Its has been a standard for all LTE deployments




On 3/25/18, 5:48 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup"  wrote:

>Not the actual RF channel frequencies up the coax. Intermediate
>frequency + power like a split IDU/ODU licensed PTP, which has been a
>reliable method for decades.
>
>On 3/25/2018 3:45 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> No. I sent that days ago.
>>
>> Ok. Why a split though?  Just to offload some of the cost to a one time
>>purchase?
>>
>> If that¹s the case I hope for a one or two ODU model as well.
>>
>> Also coax will not scale well on some of these frequencies. There¹s a
>>reason everything has gone to Tower mount - even in the cellular world.
>>
>> Do you know how much 100ft of low PIM cable will cost?  Plus the db
>>loss.
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 07:47, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>>
>>> Free Unicorn with every purchase.
>>>
>>> It's a split system.  Your EPC is built into the indoor end of the
>>>split system, and you run coax up to a radio head on the tower.  The
>>>indoor unit is supposed to have 8 ports.
>>>
>>> Other than that we know about design goals, but not specifics.  Their
>>>goal is to give you the benefits of LTE, but make it easier/more
>>>accessible.  Price was said to be in between Telrad and Baicells.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping they make a smaller IDU, because at lots of sites we'd pay
>>>for 8 ports and use 1 or 2 of them.
>>>
>>> Is list magically working now?
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 3/21/2018 3:36:39 PM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>>>
>>>> What¹s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/25/18 1:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

5G is overrated and is just more LTE anyway.



No way, there's clearly one more G than 4G.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Steve Jones]

If i have to run the lmr back up towers i spent the summer pulling down,
somebody is getting cut

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:45 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> No. I sent that days ago.
>
> Ok. Why a split though?  Just to offload some of the cost to a one time
> purchase?
>
> If that’s the case I hope for a one or two ODU model as well.
>
> Also coax will not scale well on some of these frequencies. There’s a
> reason everything has gone to Tower mount - even in the cellular world.
>
> Do you know how much 100ft of low PIM cable will cost?  Plus the db loss.
>
> > On Mar 25, 2018, at 07:47, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> >
> > Free Unicorn with every purchase.
> >
> > It's a split system.  Your EPC is built into the indoor end of the split
> system, and you run coax up to a radio head on the tower.  The indoor unit
> is supposed to have 8 ports.
> >
> > Other than that we know about design goals, but not specifics.  Their
> goal is to give you the benefits of LTE, but make it easier/more
> accessible.  Price was said to be in between Telrad and Baicells.
> >
> > I'm hoping they make a smaller IDU, because at lots of sites we'd pay
> for 8 ports and use 1 or 2 of them.
> >
> > Is list magically working now?
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: 3/21/2018 3:36:39 PM
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
> >
> >> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[George Skorup]

Not the actual RF channel frequencies up the coax. Intermediate 
frequency + power like a split IDU/ODU licensed PTP, which has been a 
reliable method for decades.


On 3/25/2018 3:45 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

No. I sent that days ago.

Ok. Why a split though?  Just to offload some of the cost to a one time 
purchase?

If that’s the case I hope for a one or two ODU model as well.

Also coax will not scale well on some of these frequencies. There’s a reason 
everything has gone to Tower mount - even in the cellular world.

Do you know how much 100ft of low PIM cable will cost?  Plus the db loss.


On Mar 25, 2018, at 07:47, Adam Moffett  wrote:

Free Unicorn with every purchase.

It's a split system.  Your EPC is built into the indoor end of the split 
system, and you run coax up to a radio head on the tower.  The indoor unit is 
supposed to have 8 ports.

Other than that we know about design goals, but not specifics.  Their goal is 
to give you the benefits of LTE, but make it easier/more accessible.  Price was 
said to be in between Telrad and Baicells.

I'm hoping they make a smaller IDU, because at lots of sites we'd pay for 8 
ports and use 1 or 2 of them.

Is list magically working now?


-- Original Message --
From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/21/2018 3:36:39 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE


What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Gino A. Villarini]

AFAIK no coax... Fiber between bbu and rru

Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini






Gino A. Villarini


President
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On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

the unicorn ate beans. Beans take a little while to make farts. But when a 
unicorn farts, the world is littered with glitter, so its worth the wait 
thats directly from their marketing material.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
wrote:
What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jason McKemie]

My experience with LTE has been much better than WiMAX.

On Sunday, March 25, 2018, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why
> not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of
> LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
>
> Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.
>
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
> > An: af@afmug.com
> > Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
> >
> > What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Rory Conaway]

It's pretty hard to write a PHY Layer for the 450 that even comes close to some 
of the capabilities of LTE.  It's even harder and would be insanely expensive 
to try and mimic that in an FPGA.  They are doing the right thing.  

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why not 
develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of LTE. I've 
seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.

Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
> 
> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

[AFMUG] Cambium LTE in the wild???

[Josh Luthman]

https://bit.ly/IqT6zt

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Mike Hammett]

5G is overrated and is just more LTE anyway. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Stefan Englhardt"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:04:11 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE 

I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why not 
develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of LTE. I've 
seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up. 

Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37 
> An: af@afmug.com 
> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE 
> 
> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far? 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Matt Hoppes]

No. I sent that days ago. 

Ok. Why a split though?  Just to offload some of the cost to a one time 
purchase?

If that’s the case I hope for a one or two ODU model as well. 

Also coax will not scale well on some of these frequencies. There’s a reason 
everything has gone to Tower mount - even in the cellular world. 

Do you know how much 100ft of low PIM cable will cost?  Plus the db loss. 

> On Mar 25, 2018, at 07:47, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> Free Unicorn with every purchase.
> 
> It's a split system.  Your EPC is built into the indoor end of the split 
> system, and you run coax up to a radio head on the tower.  The indoor unit is 
> supposed to have 8 ports.
> 
> Other than that we know about design goals, but not specifics.  Their goal is 
> to give you the benefits of LTE, but make it easier/more accessible.  Price 
> was said to be in between Telrad and Baicells.
> 
> I'm hoping they make a smaller IDU, because at lots of sites we'd pay for 8 
> ports and use 1 or 2 of them.
> 
> Is list magically working now?
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/21/2018 3:36:39 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
> 
>> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

They are going to use the 3GHz 450m with an additional device at the tower.  
The CPE will have to be different though.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
> 
> I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why not 
> develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of LTE. 
> I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
> 
> Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
> 
> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>> An: af@afmug.com
>> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>> 
>> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Steve Jones]

the unicorn ate beans. Beans take a little while to make farts. But when a
unicorn farts, the world is littered with glitter, so its worth the
wait thats directly from their marketing material.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jason McKemie]

Sounds like they're going to be 2.5 at launch, and 3.5 might be a while.

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Stefan Englhardt]

I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why not 
develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of LTE. I've 
seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.

Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
> 
> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Will be released first in 2.5 late this year with 3.5 following afterward.

Will work with the new 3.5 450m using another piece of equipment at the tower 
site. (the name escapes me).

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Gino A. Villarini]

2.5 ghz
Split RRU + BBU
2x2 RRU now, posible Medusa type later


On 3/21/18, 3:36 PM, "Af on behalf of Matt Hoppes"  wrote:

>What¹s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Adam Moffett]

Free Unicorn with every purchase.

It's a split system.  Your EPC is built into the indoor end of the split 
system, and you run coax up to a radio head on the tower.  The indoor 
unit is supposed to have 8 ports.


Other than that we know about design goals, but not specifics.  Their 
goal is to give you the benefits of LTE, but make it easier/more 
accessible.  Price was said to be in between Telrad and Baicells.


I'm hoping they make a smaller IDU, because at lots of sites we'd pay 
for 8 ports and use 1 or 2 of them.


Is list magically working now?


-- Original Message --
From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/21/2018 3:36:39 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE


What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

[AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Matt Hoppes]

What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Warren King]

On Jan 29, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Dave  wrote:

> yes,
>  +1
>  
> 
> On 01/29/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Novak wrote:
>> Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in Vegas.
>> 
>> It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the strengths of 
>> the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not sound like it was 
>> going to be standards compliant if that matters to you.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>> Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE product 
>>> around Q4.
>>> Fake news?
> 
> -- 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Adam Moffett]

In the TBW video from Vegas, Cambium didn't actually state that their 
product would inter-operate, but they said being standards based was one 
of the things driving demand for LTE.  So interop is at least implied.



-- Original Message --
From: "Joe Novak" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 1/29/2018 3:11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

Interesting - thanks for the info. I'm definitely waiting for more to 
come out, for some reason I didn't take it this way.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:41 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:
Not what I heard. Sounds like it'll be best of both worlds. The eNB 
will be 3GPP compliant, meaning you can use any vendor's UE. And then 
their UE will support transparent L2 mode like we're use to with 
Canopy, ePMP, etc. Sounds like the best way for them to get operators 
back from Telrad, Baicells, etc.


On 1/29/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Novak wrote:
Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in 
Vegas.


It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the 
strengths of the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not 
sound like it was going to be standards compliant if that matters to 
you.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE 
product around Q4.

Fake news?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Joe Novak]

Interesting - thanks for the info. I'm definitely waiting for more to come
out, for some reason I didn't take it this way.

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:41 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Not what I heard. Sounds like it'll be best of both worlds. The eNB will
> be 3GPP compliant, meaning you can use any vendor's UE. And then their UE
> will support transparent L2 mode like we're use to with Canopy, ePMP, etc.
> Sounds like the best way for them to get operators back from Telrad,
> Baicells, etc.
>
> On 1/29/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Novak wrote:
>
> Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in Vegas.
>
> It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the strengths
> of the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not sound like it
> was going to be standards compliant if that matters to you.
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
>
>> Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE product
>> around Q4.
>> Fake news?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Adam Moffett]

https://youtu.be/E_HFMaYnuVU?t=4682

Link to the correct time index.


-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 1/29/2018 2:43:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

I apologize a bit for the quality, but TBW has the presentation on 
their YouTube. They talked a lot longer than expected, so I burned 
through my batteries and had to use my phone to record the last bit.




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From: "George Skorup" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:41:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

Not what I heard. Sounds like it'll be best of both worlds. The eNB 
will be 3GPP compliant, meaning you can use any vendor's UE. And then 
their UE will support transparent L2 mode like we're use to with 
Canopy, ePMP, etc. Sounds like the best way for them to get operators 
back from Telrad, Baicells, etc.


On 1/29/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Novak wrote:
Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in 
Vegas.


It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the 
strengths of the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not 
sound like it was going to be standards compliant if that matters to 
you.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE 
product around Q4.

Fake news?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Mike Hammett]

I apologize a bit for the quality, but TBW has the presentation on their 
YouTube. They talked a lot longer than expected, so I burned through my 
batteries and had to use my phone to record the last bit. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:41:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE? 

Not what I heard. Sounds like it'll be best of both worlds. The eNB will be 
3GPP compliant, meaning you can use any vendor's UE. And then their UE will 
support transparent L2 mode like we're use to with Canopy, ePMP, etc. Sounds 
like the best way for them to get operators back from Telrad, Baicells, etc. 


On 1/29/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Novak wrote: 



Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in Vegas. 


It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the strengths of the 
wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not sound like it was going to 
be standards compliant if that matters to you. 


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE product around 
Q4. 
Fake news? 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[George Skorup]

Not what I heard. Sounds like it'll be best of both worlds. The eNB will 
be 3GPP compliant, meaning you can use any vendor's UE. And then their 
UE will support transparent L2 mode like we're use to with Canopy, ePMP, 
etc. Sounds like the best way for them to get operators back from 
Telrad, Baicells, etc.


On 1/29/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Novak wrote:

Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in Vegas.

It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the 
strengths of the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not 
sound like it was going to be standards compliant if that matters to you.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett > wrote:


Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE
product around Q4.
Fake news?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Adam Moffett]

Should be interesting.


-- Original Message --
From: "Joe Novak" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 1/29/2018 1:22:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in 
Vegas.


It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the 
strengths of the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not 
sound like it was going to be standards compliant if that matters to 
you.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE product 
around Q4.

Fake news?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Rory Conaway]

Couple that with Baicells charging more for new features, I’m probably going to 
wait and see what they have.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in Vegas.

It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the strengths of the 
wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not sound like it was going to 
be standards compliant if that matters to you.

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE product around 
Q4.
Fake news?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Dave]

yes,
 +1


On 01/29/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Novak wrote:

Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in Vegas.

It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the 
strengths of the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not 
sound like it was going to be standards compliant if that matters to you.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett > wrote:


Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE
product around Q4.
Fake news?




--

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Joe Novak]

Code name cnRanger, starting in B41/2.5ghz around Q4. Announced in Vegas.

It sounded like they are going to gut the protocol and use the strengths of
the wireless layer, so more like a LTE spin, so did not sound like it was
going to be standards compliant if that matters to you.

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE product
> around Q4.
> Fake news?
>
>

[AFMUG] Cambium LTE?

[Adam Moffett]

Somebody told me today that Cambium is expected to have an LTE product 
around Q4.

Fake news?