Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
Is that on the roadmap? I thought the sync implementation on the ePMP
would not allow for 2.5 ms sync?
I thought the way they were going to address this was to allow 5 ms sync
on PMP450?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/9/2015 11:57 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
Well, it could not work at all... no, wait... that would probably actually be better. I guess it would be worse if it burnt whatever you plugged into it to a crisp. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Could it be worse? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:16 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: hopefully the POE passthrough is better than the UBNT passthrough On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available - New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. *Not available for DFS bands.* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett [ af...@ics-il.net ]( mailto:af...@ics-il.net ) Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at [ http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ]( http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ) Ray Join the Conversation [ Cambium Networks Community Forum ]( http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ )
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
I wonder if it doesn't handle interference as well in some cases, or something like that... it'll be interesting to see what it does on other links. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:59 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Interesting. I used the Cambium link tester and followed up with Mikrotik. Weird John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:42pm To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available I did run a test before and after between the Mikrotik routers at each end of the link, it was averaging just over 50Mbps before and after - this was using a 20mhz channel with a fairly high noise floor, which is unfortunately the best I can do without shutting down some other stuff on these towers. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:58 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Have you run before and after link tests within the software? John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:18pm To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available I upgraded a link to 2.4, and I'm not really seeing any difference in throughput with the ePTP mode... it's slightly better, if anything. latency dropped from 6-7ms to 1-2ms (with no load on the link). This link isn't actually in use, since it was replaced with a Mimosa link, so it's not really the best test... but it's also far from low noise, since both ends of the link are within a couple of the Mimosa radios, and on the same path. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available - New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. *Not available for DFS bands.* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
hopefully the POE passthrough is better than the UBNT passthrough On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available - New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. *Not available for DFS bands.* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
Could it be worse? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:16 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: hopefully the POE passthrough is better than the UBNT passthrough On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available - New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. *Not available for DFS bands.* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
I may have misunderstood, but I thought they were also working on 2.5ms for
ePMP.
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Is that on the roadmap? I thought the sync implementation on the ePMP
would not allow for 2.5 ms sync?
I thought the way they were going to address this was to allow 5 ms sync
on PMP450?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/9/2015 11:57 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
I upgraded a link to 2.4, and I'm not really seeing any difference in throughput with the ePTP mode... it's slightly better, if anything. latency dropped from 6-7ms to 1-2ms (with no load on the link). This link isn't actually in use, since it was replaced with a Mimosa link, so it's not really the best test... but it's also far from low noise, since both ends of the link are within a couple of the Mimosa radios, and on the same path. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available - New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. *Not available for DFS bands.* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
Have you run before and after link tests within the software? John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:18pm To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available I upgraded a link to 2.4, and I'm not really seeing any difference in throughput with the ePTP mode... it's slightly better, if anything. latency dropped from 6-7ms to 1-2ms (with no load on the link). This link isn't actually in use, since it was replaced with a Mimosa link, so it's not really the best test... but it's also far from low noise, since both ends of the link are within a couple of the Mimosa radios, and on the same path. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) [ geo...@cbcast.com ]( mailto:geo...@cbcast.com ) Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett [ af...@ics-il.net ]( mailto:af...@ics-il.net ) Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. Not available for DFS bands. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [ http://www.ics-il.com ]( http://www.ics-il.com ) [ ]( https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL )[ ]( https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb )[ ]( https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions )[ ]( https://twitter.com/ICSIL ) From: Ray Savich [ ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ]( mailto:ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at [ http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ]( http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ) Ray Join the Conversation [ Cambium Networks Community Forum ]( http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ )
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available * New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes.*Not available for DFS bands.* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
I did run a test before and after between the Mikrotik routers at each end of the link, it was averaging just over 50Mbps before and after - this was using a 20mhz channel with a fairly high noise floor, which is unfortunately the best I can do without shutting down some other stuff on these towers. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:58 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Have you run before and after link tests within the software? John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:18pm To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available I upgraded a link to 2.4, and I'm not really seeing any difference in throughput with the ePTP mode... it's slightly better, if anything. latency dropped from 6-7ms to 1-2ms (with no load on the link). This link isn't actually in use, since it was replaced with a Mimosa link, so it's not really the best test... but it's also far from low noise, since both ends of the link are within a couple of the Mimosa radios, and on the same path. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available - New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. *Not available for DFS bands.* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
That's what I was told. 2.5ms will be coming to ePMP eventually. Maybe
in.. release 2.5? ;)
5ms for 3GHz is fine. But 2.4 and 5GHz is never going to happen, there's
simply too much FSK out there. Something will happen for FSK later on
down the road, but I do not expect 5ms framing. FSK will not be gone for
3-4 more years, it's just too reliable.
On 3/10/2015 12:30 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I may have misunderstood, but I thought they were also working on
2.5ms for ePMP.
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Is that on the roadmap? I thought the sync implementation on the
ePMP would not allow for 2.5 ms sync?
I thought the way they were going to address this was to allow 5
ms sync on PMP450?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/9/2015 11:57 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
Interesting. I used the Cambium link tester and followed up with Mikrotik. Weird John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:42pm To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available I did run a test before and after between the Mikrotik routers at each end of the link, it was averaging just over 50Mbps before and after - this was using a 20mhz channel with a fairly high noise floor, which is unfortunately the best I can do without shutting down some other stuff on these towers. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:58 PM, John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) wrote: Have you run before and after link tests within the software? John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mathew Howard [ mhoward...@gmail.com ]( mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com ) Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:18pm To: af [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available I upgraded a link to 2.4, and I'm not really seeing any difference in throughput with the ePTP mode... it's slightly better, if anything. latency dropped from 6-7ms to 1-2ms (with no load on the link). This link isn't actually in use, since it was replaced with a Mimosa link, so it's not really the best test... but it's also far from low noise, since both ends of the link are within a couple of the Mimosa radios, and on the same path. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:06 AM, John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) wrote: The PTP mode has been there. It allows to turn about the power to 30dbm in 5.8. I had a radio running at 30dbm and it would crap out within 12 hours - ethernet port would quit working. I dropped it to 28dbm and it works fine YMMV. The new PTP master/slave mode was supposed to cut latency - from what I saw it only cut it by about 5ms and the performance cut was dramatic. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) [ geo...@cbcast.com ]( mailto:geo...@cbcast.com ) Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:57am To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available If that's the case, then that's not cool. I see there's two PTP modes though. One is ePTP Master and Slave. The other is just PTP. Look like the PTP mode requires fixed distance settings at both ends? And ePTP mode does auto-ranging like Canopy BHM/BHSs perhaps? When are we going to get 2.5ms framing to sync with Canopy? I see we can now turn on the aux port PoE output and it'll power another ePMP or Canopy SM. PTP from a customer's barn to their house got easier. But that additional 20ms of latency is not so good, so hopefully PTP mode for a 1000' link works. On 3/9/2015 8:36 PM, John Woodfield wrote: This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett [ af...@ics-il.net ]( mailto:af...@ics-il.net ) Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. Not available for DFS bands. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [ http://www.ics-il.com ]( http://www.ics-il.com ) [ ]( https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL )[ ]( https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb )[ ]( https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions )[ ]( https://twitter.com/ICSIL ) From: Ray Savich [ ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ]( mailto:ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at [ http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ]( http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ) Ray Join the Conversation [ Cambium Networks Community Forum ]( http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ )
[AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify(tm) and eCommand(tm). Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forumhttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com/
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
* New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. Not available for DFS bands. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 1:33:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
Descriptions for those two weird words... eFortify™ Enhancements: New ePTP mode of operation: The release introduces a new mode of operation for point-to-point configuration providing significantly lower latency than other modes. Not available for DFS bands. Improvements to VoIP performance Ability to configure the Max MCS independently in each direction eCommand™ Enhancements: eAlign: The release introduces eAlign (found under the Tools menu), a tool to aid with link alignment Session Time per SM on the AP (under Monitor-Wireless) Improvements to the throughput chart on the GUI dashboard (under “Home”) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available
This new mode of operation increases retransmits and cuts throughput in half in environments with any noise from what I've seen so far. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 3:38pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4 is Now Available ePMP Release 2.4 includes new enhancements to eFortify™ and eCommand™. Check out the details at [ http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ]( http://bit.ly/1BYo2ja ) Ray Join the Conversation [ Cambium Networks Community Forum ]( http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ )
