Re: [agi] OFF-TOPIC: University of Hong Kong Library
On 16 July 2010 00:32, John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com wrote: I always wondered - do language translators map from one language to another or do they map to a universal language first. And if there is a universal language what is it or.. what are they? Depends very much on the translator. In Google Translate each pair of languages is a separate case. Sometimes if you want to (say) translate Arabic into Russian you translate from Arabic - English and then from English - Russian. This as you can judge gives very poor Russian. MOLTOhttp://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/ict/language-technologies/project-molto_en.htmlon the other hand translates into a common base. In the EU you cannot prefer one language to another . MOLTO should be of considerable interest as pure AGI as it will generate OWLhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Ontology_Language from NL documents. - Ian Parker --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
RE: [agi] OFF-TOPIC: University of Hong Kong Library
Make sure you study that up YKY :) John From: YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) [mailto:generic.intellige...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:59 AM To: agi Subject: [agi] OFF-TOPIC: University of Hong Kong Library Today, I went to the HKU main library: =) KY agi | https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Description: https://www.listbox.com/images/feed-icon-10x10.jpg| https://www.listbox.com/member/?; Modify Your Subscription http://www.listbox.com/ Description: https://www.listbox.com/images/listbox-logo-small.png --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com image001.jpgimage002.png
Re: [agi] OFF-TOPIC: University of Hong Kong Library
Ok Off topic, but not as far as you might think. YKY has posted in Creating Artificial Intelligence on a collaborative project. It is quite important to know *exactly* where he is. You see Taiwan uses the classical character set, The People's Republic uses a simplified character set. Hong Kong was handed back to China in I think 1997. It is still outside the Great Firewall and (I presume) uses classical characters, although I don't really know. If we are to discuss transliteration schemes, translation and writing Chinese (PRC or Taiwan) on Western keyboards, it is important for us to know. I have just bashed up a Java program to write Arabic. You input Roman Buckwalter and it has an internal conversion table. The same thing could in principle be done for a load of character sets. In Chinese you would have to input two Western keys simultaneously. That can be done. I know HK is outside the Firewall because that is where Google has its proxy server. Is YKY there, do you know? - Ian Parker 2010/7/15 John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com Make sure you study that up YKY :) John *From:* YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) [mailto:generic.intellige...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:59 AM *To:* agi *Subject:* [agi] OFF-TOPIC: University of Hong Kong Library Today, I went to the HKU main library: =) KY *agi* | Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now [image: Description: https://www.listbox.com/images/feed-icon-10x10.jpg]https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/| Modify https://www.listbox.com/member/?; Your Subscription [image: Description: https://www.listbox.com/images/listbox-logo-small.png]http://www.listbox.com/ *agi* | Archives https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ | Modifyhttps://www.listbox.com/member/?;Your Subscription http://www.listbox.com --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com image002.pngimage001.jpg
RE: [agi] OFF-TOPIC: University of Hong Kong Library
-Original Message- From: Ian Parker [mailto:ianpark...@gmail.com] Ok Off topic, but not as far as you might think. YKY has posted in Creating Artificial Intelligence on a collaborative project. It is quite important to know exactly where he is. You see Taiwan uses the classical character set, The People's Republic uses a simplified character set. The classical character set is much more artistic but more difficult to learn thus the simplified is becoming popular. Like a social tendency of K-complexity minimalistic language langour. Less energy expended since less bits required for the symbols. Hong Kong was handed back to China in I think 1997. It is still outside the Great Firewall and (I presume) uses classical characters, although I don't really know. If we are to discuss transliteration schemes, translation and writing Chinese (PRC or Taiwan) on Western keyboards, it is important for us to know. I have just bashed up a Java program to write Arabic. You input Roman Buckwalter and it has an internal conversion table. The same thing could in principle be done for a load of character sets. In Chinese you would have to input two Western keys simultaneously. That can be done. I always wondered - do language translators map from one language to another or do they map to a universal language first. And if there is a universal language what is it or.. what are they? I know HK is outside the Firewall because that is where Google has its proxy server. Is YKY there, do you know? Uhm yes. He's been followed by the government censors into the HK library. They're thinking about sending him to re-education camp for being caught red-handed reading AI4U. John --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
