Re: [Ai] Seeing AI, a must app for iPhone
No It's not due to iPhone 5S. I'm using iPhone 5S and the app is working fine with me. It may be due to poor internet connectivity. Regards, Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD. Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish Email: kumar@pstarfish.org Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864 Twitter: @BSMKumar1 Cell: +91-9840139849 Skype: bsm.kumar | www.pstarfish.org | "An integrated opportunity and employment platform for the blind and A shared service for business and start-ups" -Original Message- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Krishna Bodawala via Ai Sent: 06 August 2017 09:48 To: Share, empower &Enrich Cc: Krishna Bodawala Subject: Re: [Ai] Seeing AI, a must app for iPhone AllThough U'V Updated YR softwhare But Are Handset Being 5s May B The Problam May B Its Old That Why Its Not Supporting It On 8/3/17, Anshul Kapoor (अंशुल कपूर) via Ai wrote: > Dear Sir, > I have installed seeing AI in my apple I phone 5 S but on opening the app, > on going onto the fifth page it is not providing the get started button as > it says that get started is dim, hence I am unable to use the same, I have > removed and reinstalled but to no benefit. Kindly guide as to what should I > do now. I have recently updated my IOS to 10.3 before installation. > > With regards > > Anshul Kapoor > Cell- 9958890358. > > “”Geography has made us neighbours. History has made us friends. Economics > has made us partners, and necessity has made us allies. Those whom God has > so joined together, let no man put as under. > John F. Kennedy > > -Original Message- > From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of > Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai > Sent: 16 July 2017 09:29 > To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' > Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma > Subject: [Ai] Seeing AI, a must app for iPhone > > Dear all, > If you have an iPhone then you must install this free app from Microsoft. It > is an amazing development and the future seems very promising. > In particular the Short Text channel inside the app is amazing. Just keep > moving your camera over objects and hear the text. For example, move it over > your debit cards, food packets, bills etc and you will be amazed to see how > much it reads quickly and with good accuracy. > Demo videos and tutorials: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/seeing-ai/ > and the link to app store is: > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeing-ai-talking-camera-for-the-blind/id999 > 062298?mt=8 > Here is an article on AppleVis: > https://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/seeing-ai-talking-camera-blind > > Hope it is made available for Android soon. I am trying to get hold of a > head mounted camera for it or may be a head or chest harness for the iphone > to take full advantage. > > Prashant > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: > https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html > ___ > > > Ai mailing list > Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in > http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: > https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html > ___ > > > Ai mailing list > Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in > http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai > Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the l
Re: [Ai] Seeing AI, a must app for iPhone
AllThough U'V Updated YR softwhare But Are Handset Being 5s May B The Problam May B Its Old That Why Its Not Supporting It On 8/3/17, Anshul Kapoor (अंशुल कपूर) via Ai wrote: > Dear Sir, > I have installed seeing AI in my apple I phone 5 S but on opening the app, > on going onto the fifth page it is not providing the get started button as > it says that get started is dim, hence I am unable to use the same, I have > removed and reinstalled but to no benefit. Kindly guide as to what should I > do now. I have recently updated my IOS to 10.3 before installation. > > With regards > > Anshul Kapoor > Cell- 9958890358. > > “”Geography has made us neighbours. History has made us friends. Economics > has made us partners, and necessity has made us allies. Those whom God has > so joined together, let no man put as under. > John F. Kennedy > > -Original Message- > From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of > Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai > Sent: 16 July 2017 09:29 > To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' > Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma > Subject: [Ai] Seeing AI, a must app for iPhone > > Dear all, > If you have an iPhone then you must install this free app from Microsoft. It > is an amazing development and the future seems very promising. > In particular the Short Text channel inside the app is amazing. Just keep > moving your camera over objects and hear the text. For example, move it over > your debit cards, food packets, bills etc and you will be amazed to see how > much it reads quickly and with good accuracy. > Demo videos and tutorials: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/seeing-ai/ > and the link to app store is: > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeing-ai-talking-camera-for-the-blind/id999 > 062298?mt=8 > Here is an article on AppleVis: > https://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/seeing-ai-talking-camera-blind > > Hope it is made available for Android soon. I am trying to get hold of a > head mounted camera for it or may be a head or chest harness for the iphone > to take full advantage. > > Prashant > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: > https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html > ___ > > > Ai mailing list > Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in > http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: > https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html > ___ > > > Ai mailing list > Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in > http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai > Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] Kindle for PC
Hi Geetha, I have checked and cannot find any serial number for kindle for pc. Why do you need the serial number? Pranav Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] DAISY Audio of audio described films
Dear all A small twist here. These are not showing up in search results. I found them in the latest releases pages. Solving the technical snag and will inform as soon as these start showing up in search results. Thanks Dipendra -Original Message- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Shireen Irani via Ai Sent: 05 August 2017 23:27 To: Share, empower &Enrich Cc: Shireen Irani Subject: Re: [Ai] DAISY Audio of audio described films oh this is great news! many thanks to the team for doing this. best wishes for greater endeavors ahead. Shireen. On 8/5/17, Dipendra Manocha via Ai wrote: > Dear all > > Saksham is introducing yet another feature to improve availability > and accessibility of its offerings. We have been bringing out audio > described films for long now. To increase its availability and ease of > use, these audio described films are now available from Sugamya > Pustakalaya as DAISY Audio books. > > To begin with this offering we have uploaded below 10 audio described > films to Sugamya Pustakalaya: > > > 1 Bhaag Milkha Bhaag > 2 Barfi > 3 Dangal > 4 Gandhi > 5 Hanuman > 6 Munna Bhai MBBS > 7 P K > 8 Three Idiots > 9 Black > 10Halo > > It is so good to have them on the DAISY player or the DAISY player app > on phone and computer with auto resume and navigation feature. It was > quite an enjoyable experience to listen to them as a DAISY audio book. > I am sure you would enjoy tem as much. > > Wishing you happy movie listening. > > Dipendra > > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails sent through this mailing list.. > > > > To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: > https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailli > st.html ___ > > > Ai mailing list > Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in > http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai > Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.htm l ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
[Ai] query regarding Panasonic P55 Max mobile
Hi all, hope every thing would be fineout there. friends I am planning to buy a new mobile, and I have selected Panasonic P55 Max. it is a good phone under budget segment. The various YouTubers like sharmaji technical has given positive review as per our needs, as we have nothing to do with bulky gaims which require hifi processers like qualcom snapdragon. So I have check the Panasonic P55 Max’s configuration on flipcart which is given below for your reference. •3 GB RAM | 16 GB ROM | Expandable Upto 128 GB •5.5 inch HD Display •13MP Rear Camera | 5MP Front Camera •5000 mAh Li-ion Polymer Battery •MediaTek MTK6737 Quad Core 1.25 GHz Processor •Android Nougat 7.0 | Stock Android Version •1 Year on Handset, 6 Months on Accessories. and it has good reviews on flipcart too. now the question is, does MediaTek processers are able to satisfy our needs? As the above mentioned youtuber has negative view regarding MediaTek processers. I can understand that the sighted world don’t live without games, but I believe that small games can be run on this device. But I already mentioned that we don’t need gaims. performance is our need. The second question is, does Panasonic mobiles are accessible? as we have large no. of motorola users. Please let me know. Your reply is awaited. Regards Gufran ahmed. Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled
hi, by 'execute and then inform', i meant that you delay the informing for as long as possible, based on your subjective situation. for me, it was possible to leave the house when my parents were not watching, and then inform them that I'm going alone. after some point their grip became even looser and I could tell them after i returned home, that I had been alone. but of course that will vary from case to case. if you don't wish to be too radical, just delay the information until you absolutely can't. another thing you could try, is to let them accompany you, but from a distance. without physically helping you for a few days in places where you're absolutely confident of facing no issues. you could tell them that coming with you is their desire, not yours, and if they wish to continue doing so, they can do it at a distance, because you need to learn to navigate on your own. so no physical contact, no conversation. and this way, both of you can have your way. and you can hope that after sometime they'd realise the pointlessness of such a commute every day. I know all these sound drastic and a bit unreasonable even. but I'm only sharing them because all of these have worked for me. that may be an exception. but putting these out there does no harm. apologies if none of them sound doable. but thanx all the same, for raising the question, will keep thinking. Shireen. On 8/5/17, Shireen Irani wrote: > hi, > > by 'execute and then inform', i meant that you delay the informing for > as long as possible, based on your subjective situation. for me, it > was possible to leave the house when my parents were not watching, and > then inform them that I'm going alone. after some point their grip > became even looser and I could tell them after i returned home, that I > had been alone. but of course that will vary from case to case. if you > don't wish to be too radical, just delay the information until you > absolutely can't. > > another thing you could try, is to let them accompany you, but from a > distance. without physically helping you for a few days in places > where you're absolutely confident of facing no issues. you could tell > them that coming with you is their desire, not yours, and if they wish > to continue doing so, they can do it at a distance, because you need > to learn to navigate on your own. so no physical contact, no > conversation. and this way, both of you can have your way. and you > can hope that after sometime they'd realise the pointlessness of such > a commute every day. > > I know all these sound drastic and a bit unreasonable even. but I'm > only sharing them because all of these have worked for me. that may be > an exception. but putting these out there does no harm. apologies if > none of them sound doable. > but thanx all the same, for raising the question, will keep thinking. > Shireen. > > > On 8/5/17, Rahul Bajaj wrote: >> Thanks again. >> Geetha, I agree with you that absolute independence is undesirable, but >> what >> we are talking here about is reasonable independence. When offered the >> possibility of travelling with a friend, the parent says that friends are >> likely to abandon you in case any problem arises. Only family members or >> servants can be trusted. >> When asked to seek advice and support from orgs like Enable India, the >> parent says that those support systems exist for those who cannot afford >> personal servants. They are of no use to someone who can afford personal >> helpers. >> >> The approach outlined by Shireen, though difficult, then remains the only >> solution. Shireen, if one wants to travel alone/with a friend, and one is >> living with one parent who will inform the unreasonable parent about >> everything, how can one adopt the strategy of executing and then >> informing? >> >> >> Best, >> Rahul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Shireen Irani via Ai >>> wrote: >>> >>> hi Rahul, >>> >>> most of what i wish to say has been said already, but I'd like to >>> reiterate a couple of things that i think are imperative, regardless >>> of the temporary discomfort they may cause in the relationship. >>> >>> as an adult, whether disabled or not, 1 needs to put one's foot down, >>> and have the free will to decide one's own actions with total >>> responsibility for them. parents often find that difficult to accept, >>> partly for control, and partly because of their fear of being of no >>> need to the child any more. so if there's no room for a calm >>> conversation, one can make one's decisions and break it to them >>> immediately before, or after you start executing it. even the language >>> you use needs to be assertive and firm, reassuring them that you do >>> love and respect them, but these are a few things that you will not >>> allow them to control, because they are now yours to take charge of. >>> this is also when you ask them: what they think you will do, once >>> they're not around any more to protect you
Re: [Ai] DAISY Audio of audio described films
oh this is great news! many thanks to the team for doing this. best wishes for greater endeavors ahead. Shireen. On 8/5/17, Dipendra Manocha via Ai wrote: > Dear all > > Saksham is introducing yet another feature to improve availability and > accessibility of its offerings. We have been bringing out audio described > films for long now. To increase its availability and ease of use, these > audio described films are now available from Sugamya Pustakalaya as DAISY > Audio books. > > To begin with this offering we have uploaded below 10 audio described films > to Sugamya Pustakalaya: > > > 1 Bhaag Milkha Bhaag > 2 Barfi > 3 Dangal > 4 Gandhi > 5 Hanuman > 6 Munna Bhai MBBS > 7 P K > 8 Three Idiots > 9 Black > 10Halo > > It is so good to have them on the DAISY player or the DAISY player app on > phone and computer with auto resume and navigation feature. It was quite an > enjoyable experience to listen to them as a DAISY audio book. I am sure you > would enjoy tem as much. > > Wishing you happy movie listening. > > Dipendra > > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: > https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html > ___ > > > Ai mailing list > Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in > http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai > Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] Kindle for PC
Cannot understand what you mean by Kindle serial number. What you need to register Kindle app of PC to your kindle account is your mail ID or phone number associated with your amazon account and the amazon password. You could try logging in to this account on amazon web site and use forgot password feature to re-set your account password. Use this changed password on the kindle for PC application to get access to the books that you have purchased from Amazon Kindle. Thanks Dipendra -Original Message- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Geetha Shamanna via Ai Sent: 05 August 2017 17:38 To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' Cc: Geetha Shamanna Subject: [Ai] Kindle for PC Hi all, There was a discussion on using Kindle for PC on this list a while ago. This happened when the list was on the old domain. The new list archives don't however seem to have any of these messages. I use Kindle for PC and read books on the computer. Is it possible to locate the Kindle serial number on the PC, if the account is not associated with any Kindle device? Many thanks. Geetha Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.htm l ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
[Ai] DAISY Audio of audio described films
Dear all Saksham is introducing yet another feature to improve availability and accessibility of its offerings. We have been bringing out audio described films for long now. To increase its availability and ease of use, these audio described films are now available from Sugamya Pustakalaya as DAISY Audio books. To begin with this offering we have uploaded below 10 audio described films to Sugamya Pustakalaya: 1 Bhaag Milkha Bhaag 2 Barfi 3 Dangal 4 Gandhi 5 Hanuman 6 Munna Bhai MBBS 7 P K 8 Three Idiots 9 Black 10 Halo It is so good to have them on the DAISY player or the DAISY player app on phone and computer with auto resume and navigation feature. It was quite an enjoyable experience to listen to them as a DAISY audio book. I am sure you would enjoy tem as much. Wishing you happy movie listening. Dipendra Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] BBC HINDI
BBC has put an end to the downloading service for these programmes. Instead, you can now listen to them for last 30 days in the podcast sections. However, not available for download yet! - Original Message - From: Mahendra Galani via Ai To: Share, empower &Enrich Cc: Mahendra Galani Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Ai] BBC HINDI Dear Arun i tryed both the links, i get msgs, page not found. at your end are they working? At 08:27 AM 8/5/2017 +, you wrote: >Dear all, Here are the links for BBC Hindi, live as well as for >downloads, later - after 20 to 30 minutes of the program getting >over. Even today, these links are working: >1. Live click: http://www.liveonlineradio.net/hindi/bbc-hindi.htm > >2. Morning Program 6:30 am click >:http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/hindi/css/32mp3/latest/namaskarbharat.mp3 > >3. Evening program 7:30pm click: >http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/hindi/css/32mp3/latest/dinbhar.mp3 > >Hope you will find the links active and use them to enjoy the BBC >Hindi programs. > >A K Dua >+919876727460 >www.ourcivilsociety.com >Disclaimer: >1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the >thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates >itself to its veracity; > >2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >mails sent through this mailing list.. > > > >To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: >https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html >___ > > >Ai mailing list >Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in >http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai with warm regards Mahendra Galani Whatsapp/Viber/Skype/Imo/Facetime +43 699 174 555 95 Festnetz +43 1 961 77 47 Addresse, Arneth gasse 45/2/2 1160 Vienna, Austria, Europe Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
[Ai] BGFI - One day Trek to Ajoba Fort on 15th August 2017!
Dear Enthusiasts, Greetings from the Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) and Young Zingaro Trekking Club (YZ)! This August, we are back with an opportunity which will be an exciting and thrilling experience for all you out there. Continuing with our yearly adventurous outdoor activity, this time also we bring to you an opportunity to have a time of yours with nature along with your friends. Yes, that’s our plan for this August too. Like always, our plan is to give you a thrilling trekking experience. here are the details of the One Day Trek: Date: Tuesday, 15th August, 2017. Trek Location: Ajoba (near Shahpur on Nashik highway) Boarding / drop destination: Asangaon Station. Reporting Time:7 A.M near the ticket counter. Participants can board the train to Asangoan station from CST station at 5 A.M, from Dadar station at 5-18 A.M, and from Thane station at 5-55 A.M. the train will reach Asangoan at 7 A.M. About the trek location: The Ajoba or Ajaparvat (Grandfather Mountain). is near Shahpur on Nashik highway. Known to be one of the highest peaks in its range and toughest treks in Maharashtra. Ajoba and its surroundings are very picturesque. Ajoba is famous for the Valmiki rishi ashram where goddess sita was said to be staying after being separated from lord rama. Please note the following: 1. Participants will be required to buy their return train tickets from their respective boarding point to Asangaon Station. 2. A nominal amount of RS 150 for our visually impaired friends and RS 300 for our sighted escorts will Zbe payable. 3. The cost will only include your pick up and drop to and from Asangaon Station and no other elements will be included. 4. Participants may bring along escorts. For those coming alone, escorts will be provided while trekking. 5. Each trekker is required to carry drinking water, packed lunch (should be dry as far as possible). 6. Make sure to be dressed appropriately (wear sports / trekking shoes, carry umbrella / raincoat as required) to enjoy this experience. Further details will be communicated to registered participants shortly. Registration is mandatory if you wish to join us for this beautiful and exciting trek. Early confirmations are needed to confirm your participation and for logistical arrangements. No registrations will be accepted after Saturday, 12th of August 2017. For further details, / participation confirmations: feel free to connect with teem members Mr. Santosh Salian: 919930775758 or TanyaBalsara: 9892000677. BGFI wishes you a very happy trekking! Regards, The BGFI Team Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] BBC HINDI
Dear Arun i tryed both the links, i get msgs, page not found. at your end are they working? At 08:27 AM 8/5/2017 +, you wrote: Dear all, Here are the links for BBC Hindi, live as well as for downloads, later - after 20 to 30 minutes of the program getting over. Even today, these links are working: 1. Live click: http://www.liveonlineradio.net/hindi/bbc-hindi.htm 2. Morning Program 6:30 am click :http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/hindi/css/32mp3/latest/namaskarbharat.mp3 3. Evening program 7:30pm click: http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/hindi/css/32mp3/latest/dinbhar.mp3 Hope you will find the links active and use them to enjoy the BBC Hindi programs. A K Dua +919876727460 www.ourcivilsociety.com Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai with warm regards Mahendra Galani Whatsapp/Viber/Skype/Imo/Facetime +43 699 174 555 95 Festnetz +43 1 961 77 47 Addresse, Arneth gasse 45/2/2 1160 Vienna, Austria, Europe Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services
well that's their property, they have every right to choose the tenants, for instance, I will neverever rent out my property to drivers in particular for some specific reasons E-Mail: subramani6...@gmail.com Mob: 9738150192 Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 - Original Message - From: "gatak singh via Ai" To: "Share, empower &Enrich" Cc: "gatak singh" Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services some people even deny to give house in rent for visually challenged. On 8/4/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai wrote: Sir, specially is difficult to provide information on point no.6 and 7. in genral practice, public service official don’t disclose there names and don’t give any written refusal. and george sir, this left right combination applies to all the government and public sectors, even private sectors. we can not blame bankers only. we can take example from railway counters. also denial of admision in schools and colleges. From: Kotian, H P via Ai Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:45 PM To: Share, empower &Enrich Cc: Kotian, H P Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services All I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case. We want to document and present the facts during the meeting. If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information: 1 Name 2 Bank and Branch 3 Services requested 4 Nature of denial 5 Approximate date of the incident. 6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank. 7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility. Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com Not on the list please. Harish Kotian Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes calls asking for personal information such as your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai -- gatak singh QA test engineer at VMware India pvt. ltd. Email: gataksingh.gurud...@gmail.com gutta...@vmware.com WhatsApp: 9980948679 skype: gatak.guru facebook: https://m.facebook.com/gatak.singh?ref_component=mbasic_home_header&ref_page=%2Fwap%2Fhome.php&refid=8 twitter: https://twitter.com/gataksingh youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzlwwCd3JSGJC3eyn7i1HeQ Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post r
Re: [Ai] queery related to selecting from dropdown list in excel.
Once you focus on that cell which has dropdown, just hold down the alt key and press down arrow you will be able to navigate Best regards, Ali Sent from my iPhone > On 05-Aug-2017, at 7:25 PM, Giri Prasad via Ai > wrote: > > Dear all, > as the above subject says, I am unable to select from the dropdown > list in excel 2016. > Could someone explain the procedure to navigate in dropdown list boxes? > I am using jaws 18 on windows 10 with office 2016. > Thanks in anticipation. > > -- > WITH REGARDS > > GIRIPRASAD > > MOBILE: 924717 / 9441133367 > > SKYPE giriprasad.maddina > > "Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, > but in rising every time we fall." > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: > https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html > ___ > > > Ai mailing list > Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in > http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
[Ai] queery related to selecting from dropdown list in excel.
Dear all, as the above subject says, I am unable to select from the dropdown list in excel 2016. Could someone explain the procedure to navigate in dropdown list boxes? I am using jaws 18 on windows 10 with office 2016. Thanks in anticipation. -- WITH REGARDS GIRIPRASAD MOBILE: 924717 / 9441133367 SKYPE giriprasad.maddina "Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
[Ai] Kindle for PC
Hi all, There was a discussion on using Kindle for PC on this list a while ago. This happened when the list was on the old domain. The new list archives don't however seem to have any of these messages. I use Kindle for PC and read books on the computer. Is it possible to locate the Kindle serial number on the PC, if the account is not associated with any Kindle device? Many thanks. Geetha Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled
Rahul, You cannot execute and then inform if you want to travel. Plan well without informing your parents. Only inform them when you are absolutely sure. Your words should be that "I am going to x place with ABC on Date by flight or train". Don't ask them just matter of fact tell them. Don't ask for money. This trip you have to do with your saved finances. It is best to give them full details when you tell them. Make a small itenary - Date of travel,how, from where to where. Where are you staying and the phone no of the place with address. This may sound silly in the days of mobile when they can reach you directly. However it helps them calm down because there will be many times you will not pick up your mobile. I had a loving father but a very concerned one. So I dealt with him properly. I gave him the full information and had answers for everything he may have asked me. My dad was a lawyer and you know and I knew how many questions I had to answer. However I went for everything I wanted to-including holidays with friends. It helps if your folks know your friends. I always invited my friends home so there was a feeling of trust. Also I must tell you that until my Dad was alive I got a call every night even when I went to Delhi for one night. He did not care what I was doing so I could have been in my hotel room or at a bar. He just wanted to hear my voice at 10pm before he fell asleep. I used to get irritated because I would think what if something happened to me at 11pm and he could not take care of me. Once I was in Connought Place with 2 friends both sighted. Both my age. Arun was married and in fact a grandfather. He too got a call from his father while we were having dinner. Ayesha is a Senior Journalist and lives in Delhi. She too got a call from her mother. So calm down parents will be parents. Don't do something stupid because then they will hold it over your head forever. A lot of people on this group drink extensively. Its not really a nice scene when you have a drunk blind person who needs help. Word does reach parents. The last thing I would suggest is try to be as independent as possible. Handle your packing personally and don't ask for help when you are dealing with your personal things. Assert yourself but do it maturely. Kanchan -Original Message- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via Ai Sent: 05 August 2017 16:34 To: Share, empower &Enrich Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled Thanks again. Geetha, I agree with you that absolute independence is undesirable, but what we are talking here about is reasonable independence. When offered the possibility of travelling with a friend, the parent says that friends are likely to abandon you in case any problem arises. Only family members or servants can be trusted. When asked to seek advice and support from orgs like Enable India, the parent says that those support systems exist for those who cannot afford personal servants. They are of no use to someone who can afford personal helpers. The approach outlined by Shireen, though difficult, then remains the only solution. Shireen, if one wants to travel alone/with a friend, and one is living with one parent who will inform the unreasonable parent about everything, how can one adopt the strategy of executing and then informing? Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Shireen Irani via Ai wrote: > > hi Rahul, > > most of what i wish to say has been said already, but I'd like to > reiterate a couple of things that i think are imperative, regardless > of the temporary discomfort they may cause in the relationship. > > as an adult, whether disabled or not, 1 needs to put one's foot down, > and have the free will to decide one's own actions with total > responsibility for them. parents often find that difficult to accept, > partly for control, and partly because of their fear of being of no > need to the child any more. so if there's no room for a calm > conversation, one can make one's decisions and break it to them > immediately before, or after you start executing it. even the language > you use needs to be assertive and firm, reassuring them that you do > love and respect them, but these are a few things that you will not > allow them to control, because they are now yours to take charge of. > this is also when you ask them: what they think you will do, once > they're not around any more to protect you from the big bad world. we > know of countless stories of parents who threaten to harm themselves > in cases of their children marrying against the parents wishes, but > after a few months it all defuses and the family is 1 again. so > particularly with emotional blackmail, I know it sounds unpleasant, > but it is best to assert, that you will not be deterred by any such > threats
Re: [Ai] accessible help for booking OLA cab/Auto
Hi there, Adding to the info provided: You can also book Uber/Ola cabs threw google maps. In case of Ola, you must have the app installed and signed in in your phone. Best way is to open google maps, enter the destination where you wish to travel by typing or speaking, Dubble tap on the place that comes up in search results to choose, and then select “direction”. Swipe a little and tap on ride services tab. Once you do this, you will get options to book uber and Ola. Booking uber is pretty simple and strait forward, in case of Ola, the google maps opens the Ola app with the pickup and drop locations filled for you. You need to choose the type of the cab you wish to use, E.G, micro, prime and mini etc. These options are present in the bottom area of the screen. Tapping on these your screen reader won’t return any feedback but if you have screen click sounds enable, you can be sure if you have heard it. After selecting the type of cab, press ride now button. And. You can see the fare details of the private or shared cab and apply promo code before confirming your ride. Ixigo cab is another alternative that gives you the ability to book and compare many cabs from a single platform. The app seems fairly accessible. On 8/4/17, gatak singh via Ai wrote: > sure. I will also help you to book the uber cab. before that, the > difference between ola prime, micro and etc is that the number of > people who can sit in the car. I dont know exactly but I know about > uber. so will explain here. > how to book uber? > 1. download the uber app from the play store. for your convenience, I > am providing the direct link here. > Check out "Uber" > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubercab > 2. register to uber by giving your phone number, name, Email ID and > continue. > 3. enter the OTP sent by uber. sometimes, OTP is automatically taken. > 5. you are ready to go! > 6. find the option where to. enter your destination there. > 7. pickup location is automatically taken by your location, but if you > want to change that, there is one option just above the where to. that > item is not labelled as pickup location. your screen reader will just > announce the pickup location which is taken automatically. just click > on that, enter your location, you can find the results at the upper > part of the screen, as it happens with ola as well. just click on your > location. > 8. now you can see the estimated price of all the cabs just above the > list of cabs displayed. listen to that carefully, because the price of > each cab is not displayed in a seperate lines. everything is jumbled > up in one single line. > 9. select the cab that you want to book. there will be 3 options. > uberPool, uberGo and uberX. uber pool is like ola share. uber go is > single cab, where 4 people can sit. uber X is little big car, > convenient to take luggages. > 10. select the cab that you want. the cab which is selected is > announced as selected by your screen reader. > 11. choose the payment method. here you can select cash, paytm, debit > card or credit card. to pay with debit card or credit card, you must > have linked it with your uber account. if you want to pay through > paytm, that should also be linked with your uber account and also you > must have minimum of RS. 350 in your paytm wallet. > 12. click on next or continue.. > 13. if you have booked a pool, it will ask you to confirm the number > of seats. you can choose one seat or two seats. choose the number of > seats and click confirm seat. if you have booked uberGo or uberX, > there is no option to choose the seats. > 14. again it will ask for the confirmation of the pickup location. it > will show some nearby places. just click on your location again, and > click confirm booking. > 15. your cab is booked! > 16. you can call your driver to make sure. you can also check the > status of your driver.. > > there are some differences between ola and uber. some of them are: > 1. ola has perfectly labelled the options as pickup and drop location, > whereas uber has labelled it as where to and no label for the pickup > location. > 2. ola sends you a confirmation message to your mobile with the name > of the driver, phone number of the driver, car name and number, and > OTP as well. whereas in uber, it does not send a confirmation message > to your mobile. and also there is no OTP system in uber. > 3. you can check the estimated time of the pickup and after boarding > the cab, you can check at what time you will reach your destinationin > uber. whereas in ola, you can't check these things because that is not > accessible with talk back. however, a sighted person can see it in ola > as well. > hope it helps. pardon me for the gramatical mistakes, spelling > mistakes or the sentence formation. > > On 8/4/17, MAMATA via Ai wrote: >> Can you help about how to get the fairs for ola and uber as well. >> >> And steps to book with uber. I have followed the steps given for ola. >> >> In the ola
Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled
Thanks again. Geetha, I agree with you that absolute independence is undesirable, but what we are talking here about is reasonable independence. When offered the possibility of travelling with a friend, the parent says that friends are likely to abandon you in case any problem arises. Only family members or servants can be trusted. When asked to seek advice and support from orgs like Enable India, the parent says that those support systems exist for those who cannot afford personal servants. They are of no use to someone who can afford personal helpers. The approach outlined by Shireen, though difficult, then remains the only solution. Shireen, if one wants to travel alone/with a friend, and one is living with one parent who will inform the unreasonable parent about everything, how can one adopt the strategy of executing and then informing? Best, Rahul Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Shireen Irani via Ai > wrote: > > hi Rahul, > > most of what i wish to say has been said already, but I'd like to > reiterate a couple of things that i think are imperative, regardless > of the temporary discomfort they may cause in the relationship. > > as an adult, whether disabled or not, 1 needs to put one's foot down, > and have the free will to decide one's own actions with total > responsibility for them. parents often find that difficult to accept, > partly for control, and partly because of their fear of being of no > need to the child any more. so if there's no room for a calm > conversation, one can make one's decisions and break it to them > immediately before, or after you start executing it. even the language > you use needs to be assertive and firm, reassuring them that you do > love and respect them, but these are a few things that you will not > allow them to control, because they are now yours to take charge of. > this is also when you ask them: what they think you will do, once > they're not around any more to protect you from the big bad world. we > know of countless stories of parents who threaten to harm themselves > in cases of their children marrying against the parents wishes, but > after a few months it all defuses and the family is 1 again. so > particularly with emotional blackmail, I know it sounds unpleasant, > but it is best to assert, that you will not be deterred by any such > threats. > the way to balance things out could be to show them that you'd love > their intervention in certain areas, but not in a few others. > > also, it really does help even if in tiny ways, for them to see other > blind people moving around more independently. so wherever possible, > do invite a friend over, introduce them to your parents, and then > perhaps spontaneously decide to venture out on your own, the 2 of you, > without opportunity for any further discussion on the matter. > finally, I think financial independence, and your ability to manage > your own finances without their help, and also contributing towards > the running of the house, usually goes a long way as a sign of your > independent adulthood. if you can politely deny any1 else's help/ > control in financial matters, and then prove your efficiency with wise > money management, then it becomesrelatively easier to assert your > independence in other areas. > of course your own confidence and ability is paramount before you take > such steps. > > what I'd emphasise the most in all this is, do not give in to > emotional blackmail!! just do not. > prepare yourself for some temporary strain, and look forward to a > healthier and more meaningful future with your family. > > best, > > Shireen. > > >> On 8/5/17, Rahul Bajaj via Ai wrote: >> Thanks, Alok. I agree that the anxiety and fear of the parent here is >> divorced from the actual capabilities of the disabled person. >> Such blind resistance to accepting the proposition that the blind >> person has to be given space to grow and make their own mistakes is >> what creates an >> impasse. >> If a blind adult is told that they will always need an escort, but the >> only difference will be that the escort will be their wife instead of >> their mother >> in future, that reflects the parent's absolute failure to understand >> the other person's perspective. >> >> I think the suggestions that you have offered are very helpful. >> However, they nonetheless presuppose that the parent is willing to >> engage in a calm conversation >> with a semi open mind. The fundamental problem here is that that also >> is not true most of the time. >> The disabled person is told that the parent will start stepping back >> when the disabled person acquires the requisite independence. When >> asked to outline >> the criteria based on which the parent will be able to say that the >> child has reached that level, the parent becomes confrontational and >> states that the >> disabled person has not seen the darker side of the world yet. >> >> Best, >> Rahul >> >>> On 05/
[Ai] BBC HINDI
Dear all, Here are the links for BBC Hindi, live as well as for downloads, later - after 20 to 30 minutes of the program getting over. Even today, these links are working:1. Live click: http://www.liveonlineradio.net/hindi/bbc-hindi.htm2. Morning Program 6:30 am click :http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/hindi/css/32mp3/latest/namaskarbharat.mp33. Evening program 7:30pm click: http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/hindi/css/32mp3/latest/dinbhar.mp3Hope you will find the links active and use them to enjoy the BBC Hindi programs.A K Dua+919876727460www.ourcivilsociety.comDisclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. To check if the post reached the list or to search for old posting, reach: https://www.mail-archive.com/ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/maillist.html ___ Ai mailing list Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in http://accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in/mailman/listinfo/ai
Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled
hi Rahul, most of what i wish to say has been said already, but I'd like to reiterate a couple of things that i think are imperative, regardless of the temporary discomfort they may cause in the relationship. as an adult, whether disabled or not, 1 needs to put one's foot down, and have the free will to decide one's own actions with total responsibility for them. parents often find that difficult to accept, partly for control, and partly because of their fear of being of no need to the child any more. so if there's no room for a calm conversation, one can make one's decisions and break it to them immediately before, or after you start executing it. even the language you use needs to be assertive and firm, reassuring them that you do love and respect them, but these are a few things that you will not allow them to control, because they are now yours to take charge of. this is also when you ask them: what they think you will do, once they're not around any more to protect you from the big bad world. we know of countless stories of parents who threaten to harm themselves in cases of their children marrying against the parents wishes, but after a few months it all defuses and the family is 1 again. so particularly with emotional blackmail, I know it sounds unpleasant, but it is best to assert, that you will not be deterred by any such threats. the way to balance things out could be to show them that you'd love their intervention in certain areas, but not in a few others. also, it really does help even if in tiny ways, for them to see other blind people moving around more independently. so wherever possible, do invite a friend over, introduce them to your parents, and then perhaps spontaneously decide to venture out on your own, the 2 of you, without opportunity for any further discussion on the matter. finally, I think financial independence, and your ability to manage your own finances without their help, and also contributing towards the running of the house, usually goes a long way as a sign of your independent adulthood. if you can politely deny any1 else's help/ control in financial matters, and then prove your efficiency with wise money management, then it becomesrelatively easier to assert your independence in other areas. of course your own confidence and ability is paramount before you take such steps. what I'd emphasise the most in all this is, do not give in to emotional blackmail!! just do not. prepare yourself for some temporary strain, and look forward to a healthier and more meaningful future with your family. best, Shireen. On 8/5/17, Rahul Bajaj via Ai wrote: > Thanks, Alok. I agree that the anxiety and fear of the parent here is > divorced from the actual capabilities of the disabled person. > Such blind resistance to accepting the proposition that the blind > person has to be given space to grow and make their own mistakes is > what creates an > impasse. > If a blind adult is told that they will always need an escort, but the > only difference will be that the escort will be their wife instead of > their mother > in future, that reflects the parent's absolute failure to understand > the other person's perspective. > > I think the suggestions that you have offered are very helpful. > However, they nonetheless presuppose that the parent is willing to > engage in a calm conversation > with a semi open mind. The fundamental problem here is that that also > is not true most of the time. > The disabled person is told that the parent will start stepping back > when the disabled person acquires the requisite independence. When > asked to outline > the criteria based on which the parent will be able to say that the > child has reached that level, the parent becomes confrontational and > states that the > disabled person has not seen the darker side of the world yet. > > Best, > Rahul > > On 05/08/2017, Alok Kaushik wrote: >> Hi Rahul, >> What you have mentioned suggests that the fundamental issue is not >> about >> the capabilities of the visually impaired person and parent's comfort >> level >> with it but a limitation that the parent himself / herself is facing in >> terms of handling the situation if something goes wrong. He / she has a >> fixed idea that he / she is responsible for the VI person, and hence >> has to take decisions. >> >> This is a more difficult scenario to deal with because it is not about >> VI >> person's but their notions of their own limitations and >> responsibilities. >> In such a case while demonstrating your capabilities is important, it is >> equally important to relieve them of the burden of that sense of >> responsibility and limitation. This would especially be relevant in case >> of single parents, and also in scenarios in which parents consider >> themselves to be socially answerable if anything goes wrong. >> >> It would be important to make them understand that their support would >> not be everlasting, and th
Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled
Hi Rahul, Whether we observe closed mindedness, confrontational approach, or insistence on having an escort, underlying thought process for all of them is still the same, which is the insecurity of the parents themselves. There is no assumption or expectation that parents would or should definitely understand our perspective. It is only to recognize that the main area to be worked on is outside ourselves, which makes it even more tricky. What can help alleviate would be very context specific. What I am suggesting is not to expect complete understanding of one's perspective, or quick transformation. It is going to be work in progress for a while. Carrying any discontent within would not be healthy for the relationship. One needs to find balance between the value of the relationship and assertiveness for independence. Thanks. Alok -Original Message- From: Rahul Bajaj [mailto:rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 11:52 AM To: Alok Kaushik Cc: Share, empower &Enrich Subject: Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled Thanks, Alok. I agree that the anxiety and fear of the parent here is divorced from the actual capabilities of the disabled person. Such blind resistance to accepting the proposition that the blind person has to be given space to grow and make their own mistakes is what creates an impasse. If a blind adult is told that they will always need an escort, but the only difference will be that the escort will be their wife instead of their mother in future, that reflects the parent's absolute failure to understand the other person's perspective. I think the suggestions that you have offered are very helpful. However, they nonetheless presuppose that the parent is willing to engage in a calm conversation with a semi open mind. The fundamental problem here is that that also is not true most of the time. The disabled person is told that the parent will start stepping back when the disabled person acquires the requisite independence. When asked to outline the criteria based on which the parent will be able to say that the child has reached that level, the parent becomes confrontational and states that the disabled person has not seen the darker side of the world yet. Best, Rahul On 05/08/2017, Alok Kaushik wrote: > Hi Rahul, > What you have mentioned suggests that the fundamental issue is not > about the capabilities of the visually impaired person and parent's > comfort level with it but a limitation that the parent himself / > herself is facing in terms of handling the situation if something > goes wrong. He / she has a fixed idea that he / she is responsible > for the VI person, and hence has to take decisions. > > This is a more difficult scenario to deal with because it is not > about VI person's but their notions of their own limitations and > responsibilities. > In such a case while demonstrating your capabilities is important, > it is equally important to relieve them of the burden of that sense > of responsibility and limitation. This would especially be relevant > in case of single parents, and also in scenarios in which parents > consider themselves to be socially answerable if anything goes wrong. > > It would be important to make them understand that their support > would not be everlasting, and their help is needed to make oneself > independent, if they really want him / her to live well. They can > better help adapt, practice, and achieve a high level of comfort > while they can still support . One saying that I often use to quote > is "You give your son a fish, he eats today. You teach him how to fish, he > eats every day.". > > I have also seen some parents say that you can do whatever you want > after us but not while we are still around. This again reflects that > the focus of their thinking is not really the limitations of the > visually impaired person but their own limitations. > > One may have to make the parents realize they have a support system > to handle any situation. And also, it needs to come out in one's > communication that he / she is now prepared to take on the > responsibilities of his / her actions. > > I would like to reiterate that patience is still the key. If one > really intends to be independent, it would eventually happen. In > fact at some point being independent would be a requirement whether > one wants to or not. > > Thanks. > Alok > > -Original Message- > From: Rahul Bajaj [mailto:rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 9:16 PM > To: Share, empower &Enrich > Cc: Alok Kaushik > Subject: Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a > regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled > > Thank you, everyone. Your responses are very insightful and informative. > > Alok, I agree with you
