[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 User sba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Wed Feb 11 09:32:01 + 2009 --- Indexes are by default read-only. - Works as designed A write-protected part of a selection hinders to change anything. - Works as designed The write-protection of an existing index/table of contens can easily be removed: - Put cursor in index, via the context menu, choose edit index/table - In upcoming dialog, on tab index/table, uncheck protect against manual changes, click OK, done. Whenever inserting a new index, the write protection can just as easily be unchecked (inserting and editing an index/table is the same dialog). Summarized, I believe that all needed features are there to set and alter languages in a document. More-often-than-not, text with an unwanted language gets into a document via clipboard from other applications (i.e. web browser). In this case, the text might be hard formatted to that language. This hard formatting overrules the attributes set in the paragraph style (thus ignoring changes there). It can only be overruled by selecting the respective area, format-character, change language on tab Font to the desired one, OK. But getting wrong languages via clipboard can easily be avoided: By using Paste special (Ctrl-Shift-V) and then choosing Unformatted text, only the letters and spaces get into the document and all attributes at the current position (from the currently set paragraph style) will be set for the newly inserted text. Like this, unwanted text attributes (including unwanted languages, odd fonts or font sizes) will stay out of the document. sba-cbarbu: I do not see a clear idea of how to solve your problem. I see you struggle with the already implemented features that have proven feasible for many users. Ignoring read-only flags within a document does not look like something that will ever get implemented. But this is what I read from your summary and description. Set issue to wontfix. sba-cbarbu: Please comment, thx. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 --- Additional comments from cba...@openoffice.org Wed Feb 11 10:15:34 + 2009 --- cbarbu-spa : Well, I've seen It was working as implemented, that's why I put this report as enhancement since the beginning. I do see that I had a lot to learn about the language managing in a document. I'll try to use this advices for a while and maybe come back to comment. Remain that as a 5 years user of this suite I'm asking myself if it is really the most natural/rapid way for doing some things that are implemented in OOo writer like: 1- select all doesn't select figures and tables (this can be, not problematic but a little time consuming, not only for language settings but also for copy/paste issues). 2- the copy-past doesn't by default blow-up any format when usual requirements for a document are that it has to be homogeneous. 3- I had, according to the advices received here spend more or less 2 minutes to put every single paragraph, table and figure to be in French in a 2 pages document entirely in french, before to be able to perform an orthographic check (it has proved to be a recurrent issue though I doesn't so often copy/past things from other documents I haven't written myself). I'm sorry I went a little over the limits for a very specific ask for a feature. It could probably be more widely commented and discussed on a mailing list if to be of any interest but I'm afraid a wouldn't spend a lot of time to follow it anymore. As a matter of conclusion, I'd like to reassert my gratitude to the community of OOo to have settled such a good free tool, I hoped my contribution to be of use but if it isn't the common view of the community I can perfectly understand it and it won't prevent me to share other ideas to improve our common tool. Thanks to sba and tl for their comments. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 User sba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Wed Feb 11 11:27:12 + 2009 --- sba-cbarbu: At times, only you and me and tl read this, yes. Indeed, there is a lot that could be discussed elsewhere. and.. there is. In your last comment, you listed several aspects that EACH could trigger endless discussions yet again... :-) You write ...copy-paste doesn't by default blow-up any format when usual requirements for a document are that it has to be homogeneous. Hehe, what you regard a nice default (keeping documents homogenous by dropping formatting information) will certainly be regarded as DATA LOSS by others. Some users want the office to think for them (or at least read their minds) while others expect a dumb typewriter. Some are thankful for a free product, otheres feel personally insulted because their dream is not getting implemented. Whatever any default, some will NOT like it. Given a certain question/decision, issue: Neither the amount of 10 nor 100 nor 1000 users can rightfully consider themselves a majority. Because OOo has millions other usersthat can not be asked for a statement. User expereince is a science for its own. Try to answer this question: What does the not-yet OOo user want to BECOME an OOo user? This is a question that NO OOo user can answer... However, I believe this issue can be closed now... - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 --- Additional comments from cba...@openoffice.org Wed Feb 11 14:46:51 + 2009 --- So, as a OOo professional user rounded by professional not-yet users, where may I express that after compatibility what is mostly looked-for by a not-yet user is a clever, that is to say a rapid default way of doing things. Are such principles listed somewhere ? If not I would expect the votes for an issue to choose what is most needed whatever the developers and/or moderators can think about it. Is this principle written down anywhere, think it is a minimal necessary law in a community like our. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 User tl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|iss...@lingucomponent |sba --- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 10 08:22:45 + 2009 --- tl-cbarbu : well I can't confirm your observation. May be it depends on the actual document. Can you attach your document to this issue? tl-sba: Please take over to look further into this matter. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 --- Additional comments from cba...@openoffice.org Mon Feb 9 16:03:29 + 2009 --- Tested in 3.0.1 (OOO300m15 french version) on an other document : 1- ToolslanguagesFor all the textEnglish USA not change the language of plain text in the file. In fact, it doesn't seems to change anything. 2- Ctrl-A doesn't allow me to select language changes (grey entries) in tools language and format caracter. Seems to occur because of the presence of an index field (remove it makes reappear languages options. Should also be fixed. Should I open an other ticket ? 3- Without Index field, Ctrl-A methods work well but not for legend text as Ctrl-A doesn't select this kind of text. Regards, - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 User tl changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|''|'tl' --- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Mon Feb 9 11:08:08 + 2009 --- ## - You can use 'Tools/Language/For all text' Yes, there was an issue in OOo 3.0, that not all text was touched by this one. But it should be fixed in OOo 3.0.1. I tried it was tables and all the text (the header cells and all others) is now changed as well. The fix to this might also effect that CTRL-A + Format/Character will now change all the text language which also was not the case before. Thus please give it a try in OOo 3.0.1. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 --- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Fri Feb 6 10:04:36 + 2009 --- Well, there are several ways to do that. In all applications something like this should work: - Select all (CTRL_A) then open ther 'Format/Character' dialog and in the font tab page you can then set the language for the text. - Open 'Tools/Options - Language Settings - Languages' select the language(s) you like AND don't forget to check the box 'for the current document only' In the Writer application there are other options as well. Depending if and how you are using styles or hard-coded attributes you can do the following: - You can change the language of the styles that you are using. Often enough just changing the language of the default paragraph style will do. - You can use 'Tools/Language/For all text' And since it seems you are not familiar with OOo at all: why not first asking your question (or stating your problem) in one of the user mailing-lists? Usually you will get an answer or good hint very soon! It is just by chance that I stumbled over this issue and currently have the time to answer. Issues are poor means of communications or for asking questions... If your problem is solved by the above answers please close this issue. Thanks! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 --- Additional comments from cba...@openoffice.org Fri Feb 6 16:34:39 + 2009 --- ## Select all (CTRL_A) then open ther 'Format/Character' dialog and in the font ## tab page you can then set the language for the text. This seems to be the best working maner, but not the most obvious and any way doesn't apply to the legend of figures and tables. ## - Open 'Tools/Options - Language Settings - Languages' select the language(s) ## you like AND don't forget to check the box 'for the current document only' This doesn't force the whole document to switch from a language to an other, as mentionned in the following documentation (and tested previously to the post) : http://plan-b-for-openoffice.org/ooo-help/r2.1/en-US/WIN/shared/guide/language_select ## In the Writer application there are other options as well. Depending if and ## how you are using styles or hard-coded attributes you can do the following: ## - You can change the language of the styles that you are using. Often enough ## just changing the language of the default paragraph style will do. I can understand the logic but I was asking any word in the document to switch to the language I want, this can't rely on an often enough. ## - You can use 'Tools/Language/For all text' This doesn't work, it isn't a defect, it is implented to respect language settings of a particular paragraph, please see ahead. For information, I'm a regular, professional and perserverant user of OOo for 5 years (I'm ending a PhD) I'm really glad to see it's evolution but if I allow myself to suggest such an issue it's that the language problem is a persistent one and I think this particular issue can be of use, especially when a document go by different computer and often bring with it a lot a heterogeneity of languages that cannot be seen at the first look. Thanks for all your advices. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[lingucomponent-issues] [Issue 98912] need a way to *force* the language for *all* the document
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=98912 Issue #|98912 Summary|need a way to *force* the language for *all* the docum |ent Component|lingucomponent Version|OOo 3.0 Platform|All URL| OS/Version|All Status|UNCONFIRMED Status whiteboard| Keywords| Resolution| Issue type|ENHANCEMENT Priority|P4 Subcomponent|other Assigned to|iss...@lingucomponent Reported by|cbarbu --- Additional comments from cba...@openoffice.org Thu Feb 5 11:16:57 + 2009 --- The problem is : I'm writing in french and I need a way to force all the document to be understood by the spellcheker as french, whatever the language can be for each paragraph or word. It's very important as it happens very often that some parts of the documents are automatically settled in english and occasionnaly doesn't want to change to french even when telling the paragraph or the selection to be in french. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
