[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Thanks for bringing up an important and related point. We are upset that the bluetooth API has been pulled, but I guess it wouldn't have been much good if it didn't work well or was not 'comprehensive'. Java developers are used to JSR82. J2ME bluetooth apps are currently written to JSR82. If Android is not going to support JSR82 it would be better if their API could at least support the basic things that can be done with JSR82. One example is L2CAP sockets. I see in this new blog entry: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-information-on-apis-removed-in.html that L2CAP socket support from Java is being considered but is not certain, whereas this is supported in JSR82. If the Android Bluetooth API is not only different then JSR82 but also quite inferior in functionality then it will be hard to port JSR82 apps to Android and it will simply make the Android SDK look bad. Please add the bluetooth API in Android 1.1 and please make it possible for us to port our existing JSR82 apps to Android. Thanks, Tom. On Aug 19, 3:15 am, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much for this long awaited public SDK! This is really a great step forward! On a detail level, I would also like to know more about the planned Bluetooth API. a comprehensive Bluetooth API will not be possible... Does it mean, there could be a limited Bluetooth API available for 1.0? Will there be a way to send custom commands to an external device? Peli On 19 Aug., 02:20, Qwavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to significant API changes in the upstream open-source project and due to the timeline of getting certain Bluetooth profile implementations certified, a comprehensive Bluetooth API will not be possible or present in Android 1.0. YIKES, this is a major loss. What does this mean? The text above implies that bluetooth API support is still intended for Android, and that it will come soon after 1.0. If this is not true then please be clear - developers need to plan. Tom. On Aug 18, 3:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-releas... Enjoy, David- Zitierten Text ausblenden - - Zitierten Text anzeigen - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
It looks like I am not the only one looking for the Bluetooth API. I just decided to give up on Android totally. Without the Bluetooth API it's not even worth taking a look at anymore. I am sorry I even got involved in this to begin with. It's all garbage. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Thank you very much for this long awaited public SDK! This is really a great step forward! On a detail level, I would also like to know more about the planned Bluetooth API. a comprehensive Bluetooth API will not be possible... Does it mean, there could be a limited Bluetooth API available for 1.0? Will there be a way to send custom commands to an external device? Peli On 19 Aug., 02:20, Qwavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to significant API changes in the upstream open-source project and due to the timeline of getting certain Bluetooth profile implementations certified, a comprehensive Bluetooth API will not be possible or present in Android 1.0. YIKES, this is a major loss. What does this mean? The text above implies that bluetooth API support is still intended for Android, and that it will come soon after 1.0. If this is not true then please be clear - developers need to plan. Tom. On Aug 18, 3:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-releas... Enjoy, David- Zitierten Text ausblenden - - Zitierten Text anzeigen - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Many thanks for beta sdk + road map ! ( at last :-) Regards On Aug 19, 5:15 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much for this long awaited public SDK! This is really a great step forward! On a detail level, I would also like to know more about the planned Bluetooth API. a comprehensive Bluetooth API will not be possible... Does it mean, there could be a limited Bluetooth API available for 1.0? Will there be a way to send custom commands to an external device? Peli On 19 Aug., 02:20, Qwavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to significant API changes in the upstream open-source project and due to the timeline of getting certain Bluetooth profile implementations certified, a comprehensive Bluetooth API will not be possible or present in Android 1.0. YIKES, this is a major loss. What does this mean? The text above implies that bluetooth API support is still intended for Android, and that it will come soon after 1.0. If this is not true then please be clear - developers need to plan. Tom. On Aug 18, 3:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-releas... Enjoy, David- Zitierten Text ausblenden - - Zitierten Text anzeigen - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
No Text to Speech (tts) yet ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) 写道: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html Enjoy, David Many thanks to you. It's great news. :) I'll try it~! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Dear Google representatives, Since Bluetooth seems to be hottest topic for the SDK 0.9, please clarify the level of Bluetooth support in the first Android phone that is coming this fall. Which of the following is correct? 1. The phone does not have Bluetooth hardware. 2. The phone has disabled Bluetooth hardware that can be enabled with a future SDK update. 3. The phone has Bluetooth hardware and supports basic Bluetooth features such as pairing and RFCOMM. On Aug 18, 3:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-releas... Enjoy, David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
viktor wrote: Which of the following is correct? 1. The phone does not have Bluetooth hardware. 2. The phone has disabled Bluetooth hardware that can be enabled with a future SDK update. 3. The phone has Bluetooth hardware and supports basic Bluetooth features such as pairing and RFCOMM. Arguably, none of the above, because there is no such thing as *the* phone (emphasis mine). Android will most likely be used on a wide range of devices. These will likely support various sets of Bluetooth profiles, no different than any other phones made today. Many Bluetooth functions would likely work beneath the level of Android applications, no different than with other smartphone operating systems. For example, you don't have to be running some downloaded magical Windows Mobile application to use the handsfree profile -- that's handled solely by hardware and Windows Mobile itself. Given all that, *my* questions are: -- Which Bluetooth profiles will the Android OS handle on its own (given hardware support for said profile)? -- What means do developers have for adding support for other Bluetooth profiles not handled directly by the Android OS? If the answer is not at the application level, only by modifying the core Android OS, would you consider addressing this scenario when writing up the documentation for how the community can contribute back to Android, once it goes open source? -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.1 Published! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
viktor wrote: From marketing standpoint, it is important to know if an application that uses RFCOMM to connect to a custom hardware via Bluetooth (e.g. SplashPlay from challenge Top 50) will be able to run on this phone immediately, in future or never. Both your and my questions are important. I hope Google will answer them all. Terribly sorry -- I didn't recognize RFCOMM from the Bluetooth context. I'm used to thinking of things at the profile level. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com Warescription: All titles, revisions, ebook formats, just $35/year --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Great, I'll try it tomorrow :) On Aug 18, 11:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-releas... Enjoy, David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new M5 SDK! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html Many thanks to you, Dan, hackbod, Romain, Megha, and everyone else on the Android team, for the updated SDK, for the roadmap, and for your continued patience with the community's collected agita. And now, to fix up a seemingly infinite number of book examples... -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.1 Published! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new M5 SDK! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
On Aug 18, 12:43 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now, to fix up a seemingly infinite number of book examples... Uh, yeah, sorry about that. :} Fortunately this will be the last time. Really! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new M5 SDK! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
And if you have any questions, just ask here and we'll help :) On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 18, 12:43 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now, to fix up a seemingly infinite number of book examples... Uh, yeah, sorry about that. :} Fortunately this will be the last time. Really! :) -- Romain Guy www.curious-creature.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new M5 SDK! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
On Aug 18, 12:43 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now, to fix up a seemingly infinite number of book examples... Uh, yeah, sorry about that. :} Fortunately this will be the last time. Really! :) Well, I'm hoping Android continues to advance as a platform, which will inevitably mean *some* amount of API changes (along with orthogonal API additions). I'd hate for Android to be permanently frozen in the 1.0 state, no matter how slick 1.0 will seem at release time. My grousing wasn't aimed at the changes in the SDK, just that I have a pile of examples to work through. It's the price I chose to pay a few months ago, when I elected to get a book out based on M5. No biggee, just a chunk o' work to get done. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.1 Published! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Will we soon see updates to the issue tracking database (http:// code.google.com/p/android/issues/list)? I'd like to know if some of the issues critical to our application have been fixed. Bob On Aug 18, 2:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
Is there a reason you can't see if your issue has been fixed by downloading the SDK and trying it out? Cheers, Justin Android Team @ Google On Aug 18, 6:11 pm, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will we soon see updates to the issue tracking database (http:// code.google.com/p/android/issues/list)? I'd like to know if some of the issues critical to our application have been fixed. Bob On Aug 18, 2:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Android developers, We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
My application used the GTalkServices API for a communication in multiplayer game. It's a bad news for me that this API is removed from the 0.9 SDK. If i'm continue to develop my application using the M5 SDK, the GTalkService is still supported by android isn't it? Because this API is one of the main features in my application. Thx --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: New SDK available - 0.9 SDK beta
On Aug 18, 12:01 pm, David McLaughlin (Android Advocate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 0.9 SDK beta! tat... Thanks guys, finally... Looks like things are getting back in line now. From what I could see so far it appears we (developers) have got a boatload of work punched out porting over to 0.9. JP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Announcing the new Android 0.9 SDK beta! http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/announcing-beta-release-of-android-sdk.html For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
