Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

2014-05-05 Thread Evan B. Milburn 
Jon and grower friends,
 After reading the article "Monsanto is going organic", continue down and read 
the comments by the public. These too are our customers. Do we want comments 
like this toward our apple industry?   
  We has growers certainly know that GMOs are harmless and may well have a 
place in our industry in the future, possibly in disease or insect resistance.  
However, do we need this kind of publicity now.
  All it takes is for some famous Hollywood star to tape an interview blasting 
our great industry.
  AGAIN  Remember Alar!
  Evan Milburn
  www.milburnorchards.com   
  

On Monday, May 5, 2014 7:17 PM, Jon Clements  wrote:
 
I posted this a while back 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/apple-crop%40virtualorchard.net/msg02437.html), 
but probably worth re-visiting. I found it very interesting. JC
>
>
>http://www.wired.com/2014/01/new-monsanto-vegetables/
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>On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Fleming, William  
>wrote:
>
>The way to beat the GMO controversy, merited or not, is to use genetic mapping 
>to find plants with desirable traits then cross them into the targeted crop 
>with conventional breeding.
>>I've talked with several anti GMO folks who have no problem with this method 
>>but you still can be sure it won't please everyone.
>>
>>
>>Bill Fleming
>>Montana State University
>>Western Ag Research Center
>>580 Quast Lane
>>Corvallis, MT 59828
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
>>[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Silsby, Ken
>>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:23 AM
>>To: Apple-crop discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals
>>
>>In January, I happened to attend a "standing room only" presentation on 
>>communicating about GMO crops at the Mid-Atlantic Convention in Hershey, PA.  
>>The speaker was from the Center of Science in the Public Interest.  Their web 
>>site posts a 24 page bulletin on the subject at the link below.  The bulletin 
>>provides a good review for those who are in position to discuss the issue 
>>with the public.
>>
>>Link to "Straight Talk on Genetically Engineered Foods":
>>http://cspinet.org/new/pdf/biotech-faq.pdf
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Ken Silsby   Eastern Technical Manager, Apples
>>Mobile: 716.471.5383 | Fax: 716.204.8065 ksil...@agrofresh.com 
>>
>>http://www.agrofresh.com/ 
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
>>[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Shoemaker, 
>>William H
>>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:04 AM
>>To: Apple-crop discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals
>>
>>I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I also 
>>wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone knows 
>>as so much of it is done in the private sector.
>>
>>But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some 
>>virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a 
>>different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild species 
>>that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need such 
>>resistance but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk.
>>
>>Bill
>>William H. Shoemaker
>>Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist University of Illinois 
>>wshoe...@illinois.edu
>>
>>
>>My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms 
>>that are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic transfers 
>>among widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs that involve 
>>only modifications of genes within plants or the addition of virus coat 
>>proteins from viruses that are already commonly found in the plant species of 
>>interest?
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Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

2014-05-05 Thread Jon Clements 
I posted this a while back (
http://www.mail-archive.com/apple-crop%40virtualorchard.net/msg02437.html),
but probably worth re-visiting. I found it very interesting. JC

http://www.wired.com/2014/01/new-monsanto-vegetables/


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Fleming, William
wrote:

> The way to beat the GMO controversy, merited or not, is to use genetic
> mapping to find plants with desirable traits then cross them into the
> targeted crop with conventional breeding.
> I've talked with several anti GMO folks who have no problem with this
> method but you still can be sure it won't please everyone.
>
>
> Bill Fleming
> Montana State University
> Western Ag Research Center
> 580 Quast Lane
> Corvallis, MT 59828
>
> -Original Message-
> From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Silsby, Ken
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:23 AM
> To: Apple-crop discussion list
> Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals
>
> In January, I happened to attend a "standing room only" presentation on
> communicating about GMO crops at the Mid-Atlantic Convention in Hershey,
> PA.  The speaker was from the Center of Science in the Public Interest.
>  Their web site posts a 24 page bulletin on the subject at the link below.
>  The bulletin provides a good review for those who are in position to
> discuss the issue with the public.
>
> Link to "Straight Talk on Genetically Engineered Foods":
> http://cspinet.org/new/pdf/biotech-faq.pdf
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ken Silsby   Eastern Technical Manager, Apples
> Mobile: 716.471.5383 | Fax: 716.204.8065 ksil...@agrofresh.com
>
> www.agrofresh.com
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Shoemaker, William H
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:04 AM
> To: Apple-crop discussion list
> Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals
>
> I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I also
> wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone
> knows as so much of it is done in the private sector.
>
> But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some
> virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a
> different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild
> species that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need
> such resistance but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk.
>
> Bill
> William H. Shoemaker
> Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist University of Illinois
> wshoe...@illinois.edu
>
>
> My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms
> that are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic
> transfers among widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs
> that involve only modifications of genes within plants or the addition of
> virus coat proteins from viruses that are already commonly found in the
> plant species of interest?
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-- 
Jon Clements
aka 'Mr Honeycrisp'
UMass Cold Spring Orchard
393 Sabin St.
Belchertown, MA  01007
413-478-7219
umassfruit.com
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[apple-crop] Scaffolds 5/5

2014-05-05 Thread Arthur M. Agnello 
A new issue of Scaffolds for the week of 5/5 has been posted and is available 
at:
http://www.scaffolds.entomology.cornell.edu/2014/SCAFFOLDS%205-5-14.pdf

A version formatted for mobile devices is available at:
http://www.scaffolds.entomology.cornell.edu/2014/5-05MD.pdf

This issue contains the following items:

INSECTS
- Orchard Radar Digest
- Pink pests
- Brown marmorated stinkbug survey
HORTICULTURE
- Fungicides and bees
PHENOLOGIES
UPCOMING PEST EVENTS


Arthur M. Agnello
Professor and Extension Tree Fruit Entomologist
Dept. of Entomology
a...@cornell.edu
N.Y.S. Agric. Expt. Sta.Tel: 315-787-2341
630 W. North St.   Fax: 315-787-2326
Geneva, NY  14456-1371
Agnello Lab page:
http://blogs.cornell.edu/agnello
Scaffolds Fruit Journal online:
http://www.scaffolds.entomology.cornell.edu/index.html
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Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

2014-05-05 Thread Fleming, William 
The way to beat the GMO controversy, merited or not, is to use genetic mapping 
to find plants with desirable traits then cross them into the targeted crop 
with conventional breeding.
I've talked with several anti GMO folks who have no problem with this method 
but you still can be sure it won't please everyone. 


Bill Fleming
Montana State University
Western Ag Research Center
580 Quast Lane
Corvallis, MT 59828

-Original Message-
From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Silsby, Ken
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:23 AM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

In January, I happened to attend a "standing room only" presentation on 
communicating about GMO crops at the Mid-Atlantic Convention in Hershey, PA.  
The speaker was from the Center of Science in the Public Interest.  Their web 
site posts a 24 page bulletin on the subject at the link below.  The bulletin 
provides a good review for those who are in position to discuss the issue with 
the public.

Link to "Straight Talk on Genetically Engineered Foods":
http://cspinet.org/new/pdf/biotech-faq.pdf

Thanks.

Ken Silsby   Eastern Technical Manager, Apples
Mobile: 716.471.5383 | Fax: 716.204.8065 ksil...@agrofresh.com 

www.agrofresh.com 

 
 

 




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[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Shoemaker, William H
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:04 AM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I also 
wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone knows as 
so much of it is done in the private sector. 

But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some 
virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a 
different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild species 
that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need such resistance 
but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk. 

Bill
William H. Shoemaker
Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist University of Illinois 
wshoe...@illinois.edu


My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms that 
are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic transfers among 
widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs that involve only 
modifications of genes within plants or the addition of virus coat proteins 
from viruses that are already commonly found in the plant species of interest?
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Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

2014-05-05 Thread Silsby, Ken 
In January, I happened to attend a "standing room only" presentation on 
communicating about GMO crops at the Mid-Atlantic Convention in Hershey, PA.  
The speaker was from the Center of Science in the Public Interest.  Their web 
site posts a 24 page bulletin on the subject at the link below.  The bulletin 
provides a good review for those who are in position to discuss the issue with 
the public.

Link to "Straight Talk on Genetically Engineered Foods":
http://cspinet.org/new/pdf/biotech-faq.pdf

Thanks.

Ken Silsby   Eastern Technical Manager, Apples
Mobile: 716.471.5383 | Fax: 716.204.8065   
ksil...@agrofresh.com 

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-Original Message-
From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Shoemaker, William H
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:04 AM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I also 
wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone knows as 
so much of it is done in the private sector. 

But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some 
virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a 
different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild species 
that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need such resistance 
but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk. 

Bill
William H. Shoemaker
Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist
University of Illinois
wshoe...@illinois.edu


My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms that 
are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic transfers among 
widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs that involve only 
modifications of genes within plants or the addition of virus coat proteins 
from viruses that are already commonly found in the plant species of interest?
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Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

2014-05-05 Thread Juliet Evelyn Carroll 
Consider BT crops and you can estimate there are many crops grown with GMO 
events that derive from non-plant species. (Bt = Bacillus thuringiensis toxin 
for lepidopteran (possibly other) insect control.) Not sure the derivation of 
the round-up ready gene, but this is also a large-acreage-use GMO event.
Julie
Juliet E. Carroll, PhD
Fruit IPM Coordinator, New York State IPM Program, Cornell University
630 W. North St., Geneva, NY 14456, 315-787-2430, j...@cornell.edu

NYS IPM Program, nysipm.cornell.edu
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-Original Message-
From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Shoemaker, William H
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:04 AM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I also 
wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone knows as 
so much of it is done in the private sector. 

But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some 
virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a 
different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild species 
that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need such resistance 
but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk. 

Bill
William H. Shoemaker
Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist University of Illinois 
wshoe...@illinois.edu


My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms that 
are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic transfers among 
widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs that involve only 
modifications of genes within plants or the addition of virus coat proteins 
from viruses that are already commonly found in the plant species of interest?
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Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

2014-05-05 Thread Shoemaker, William H 
I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I also 
wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone knows as 
so much of it is done in the private sector. 

But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some 
virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a 
different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild species 
that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need such resistance 
but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk. 

Bill
William H. Shoemaker
Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist
University of Illinois
wshoe...@illinois.edu


My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms that 
are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic transfers among 
widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs that involve only 
modifications of genes within plants or the addition of virus coat proteins 
from viruses that are already commonly found in the plant species of interest?
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