[arch-general] Boost

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Bumke

Hi,

Does anyone know what's going on with boost? It seems it was downgraded 
from 1.42.0 to 1.41.0 a while back, and hasn't been updated to the 
latest 1.43.0.


I was going to build the latest on my machine, but if there's something 
wrong with it I might hold off or go with the older version. I know 
there was some talk about splitting it up; is that the reason?


Daniel


Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-18 Thread Allan McRae

On 18/06/10 16:24, Daniel Bumke wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know what's going on with boost? It seems it was downgraded
from 1.42.0 to 1.41.0 a while back, and hasn't been updated to the
latest 1.43.0.

I was going to build the latest on my machine, but if there's something
wrong with it I might hold off or go with the older version. I know
there was some talk about splitting it up; is that the reason?



From memory 1.42 broke encfs.   The encfs developers blame boost, the 
boost developers blame encfs, so nothing was done in recent updates from 
either side.


So we either update boost or break encfs...

Allan


Re: [arch-general] New Google Group for discussion and notices on Arch security.

2010-06-18 Thread Andres P
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote:

 ah yes, SSL! sorry :)


On 2006-05-01 22:34:12, Ulf Möller, openssl developer [1], responded
[2] to openssl packager Kurt Roeckx [3] saying that he was for
applying the patch just to keep valgrind quiet.

But openssl doesn't like to talk about that, and neither does slashdot
for that matter.

For a distro packager, the maximum authority regarding what to do with
a given piece of software is upstream and common sense.

If upstream says it's a ok, then common sense takes a backseat during
technical discussions.

Not to mention that initializing variables like that is undefined and
bound to *always* cause confusion.

Andres P

[1] http://openssl.org/about
[2] http://marc.info/?l=openssl-devm=114652287210110w=2
[3] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=k...@roeckx.be


Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Bumke

On 18/06/10 13:30, Allan McRae wrote:
From memory 1.42 broke encfs.   The encfs developers blame boost, the 
boost developers blame encfs, so nothing was done in recent updates 
from either side.


So we either update boost or break encfs...
Thanks for the tip! Presumably you mean either we *don't* update boost 
or break encfs?


What a mess. For anyone interested you can read up on it here:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=92209
https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/3990
http://code.google.com/p/encfs/issues/detail?id=60

Boost really seems to have no interest in fixing this, but it looks like 
encfs may have found a work-around (the bug above was closed yesterday 
with status 'released'). Latest encfs release: 
http://code.google.com/p/encfs/updates/list


Maybe worth another try with the new encfs version?



Re: [arch-general] New Google Group for discussion and notices on Arch security.

2010-06-18 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Andres P aep...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote:

 ah yes, SSL! sorry :)


 On 2006-05-01 22:34:12, Ulf Möller, openssl developer [1], responded
 [2] to openssl packager Kurt Roeckx [3] saying that he was for
 applying the patch just to keep valgrind quiet.


cool. I wasnt aware of that. I was aware that there was some form of
silence regarding what to do. But as for actually saying ok... hm.
Agree with the point about making sense to defer to upstream for the
final word.

-jf


 But openssl doesn't like to talk about that, and neither does slashdot
 for that matter.

 For a distro packager, the maximum authority regarding what to do with
 a given piece of software is upstream and common sense.

 If upstream says it's a ok, then common sense takes a backseat during
 technical discussions.

 Not to mention that initializing variables like that is undefined and
 bound to *always* cause confusion.

 Andres P

 [1] http://openssl.org/about
 [2] http://marc.info/?l=openssl-devm=114652287210110w=2
 [3] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=k...@roeckx.be



Re: [arch-general] intel video suspend

2010-06-18 Thread Christoph Rissner

On 05/07/2010 07:16 PM, Isaac Dupree wrote:

please inform us, what does xset dpms force off do?  And for what
circumstances/purpose do you use it?


Sorry it took so long, I missed your reply.

xset dpms force off is supposed to turn off the screen immediately 
using DPMS, at least thats what it seems to do.
I just don't want to suspend (suspend the whole system to RAM) everytime 
I close the lid, rather I like it to continue to work on whatever I told 
it to do :-)


Bye
Christoph



Re: [arch-general] b43: wireless issues

2010-06-18 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Magnus Therning's message of 2010-06-18 01:22:48 +0200:
 I'm having problems getting my wireless connection to work properly.
 
 It's a broadcom card, using the b43 driver.  It connects fine on
 login, but once I actually use the network I'm disconnected and all
 attempts to re-connect fail.
 
 I've found some reports of similar behaviour online, but none seem to
 offer any good solutions to it :-(  So I'm trying my luck in here
 instead.
 
 One person mentioned that things started working much better if he
 limited the network to 802.11b (not g), but I haven't seen any obvious
 way of achieving this.  Any hints on what I can do to test that
 myself?
 
 $ lspci -vnn |grep 14e4
 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
 802.11b/g [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
 
 I did extract some stuff from dmesg that might be of importance, but I
 really couldn't tell:
 
 b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode15.fw
 b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/lp0initvals15.fw
 b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/lp0bsinitvals15.fw
 b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.104 (2008-07-01 00:50:23)
 
 b43-phy0 ERROR: Fatal DMA error: 0x0800, 0x, 0x,
 0x, 0x, 0x
 b43-phy0 ERROR: This device does not support DMA on your system.
 Please use PIO instead.
 b43-phy0: Controller RESET (DMA error) ...
 b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.104 (2008-07-01 00:50:23)
 b43-phy0: Controller restarted
 
 Cheers,
 M

Hi.
I have the same chip and same issue. I found out that the b43 devs
didn't figure out yet how to get the chip to work correctly, so unless
something changed during the last weeks/months there's no real solution.
Using the apparently slower PIO instead of DMA is a kernel compiletime
option so far, but I read that as a workaround it's a module load option
beginning with .34.
It's a pity, the chip should have worked beginning with I afair .30. I
wasted loads of time trying to get it to work, without luck.
The broadcom driver works afair, but it annoyed me for some reasons.
So for now I'm looking forward to .34 to hopefully have at least working
wifi, even if slow.
-- 
Regards,
Philipp

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Fragen offen. Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan



Re: [arch-general] intel video suspend

2010-06-18 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Christoph Rissner's message of 2010-06-18 09:36:27 +0200:
 On 05/07/2010 07:16 PM, Isaac Dupree wrote:
  please inform us, what does xset dpms force off do?  And for what
  circumstances/purpose do you use it?
 
 Sorry it took so long, I missed your reply.
 
 xset dpms force off is supposed to turn off the screen immediately 
 using DPMS, at least thats what it seems to do.
 I just don't want to suspend (suspend the whole system to RAM) everytime 
 I close the lid, rather I like it to continue to work on whatever I told 
 it to do :-)
 
 Bye
 Christoph

The syntax of that stuff is weird, but here's what I have, seems to work:

# turn off screen powersaving
setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0

#turn powersave off 
 
xset dpms 0 0 0
xset -dpms

#turn screensaver off   
 
xset s 0 0
xset s noblank
xset s noexpose
xset s off

-- 
Regards,
Philipp

--
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Fragen offen. Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan



Re: [arch-general] intel video suspend

2010-06-18 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Ray Rashif's message of 2010-06-18 09:54:55 +0200:
 On 18 June 2010 15:36, Christoph Rissner c...@visotech.at wrote:
  On 05/07/2010 07:16 PM, Isaac Dupree wrote:
 
  please inform us, what does xset dpms force off do?  And for what
  circumstances/purpose do you use it?
 
  Sorry it took so long, I missed your reply.
 
  xset dpms force off is supposed to turn off the screen immediately using
  DPMS, at least thats what it seems to do.
  I just don't want to suspend (suspend the whole system to RAM) everytime I
  close the lid, rather I like it to continue to work on whatever I told it to
  do :-)
 
 That _is_ the default behaviour - the laptop should do nothing at all
 when the lid is closed. I know of no particular hardware/BIOS that
 sets a sleep action upon lid closure. It is only altered by userspace
 tools/daemons like for eg. when using a DE. You might want to check
 what else is enforcing a rule to the lid-closing state.

Mine does turn off the backlight, and I'm quite sure there's no
userspace involved, just plain hardware/bios. No idea whether others do
more than that. Turning off the backlight seems like reasonably safe
thing to do.
-- 
Regards,
Philipp

--
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Fragen offen. Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan



Re: [arch-general] intel video suspend

2010-06-18 Thread Christoph Rissner

On 06/18/2010 09:54 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

That_is_  the default behaviour - the laptop should do nothing at all
when the lid is closed. I know of no particular hardware/BIOS that
sets a sleep action upon lid closure. It is only altered by userspace
tools/daemons like for eg. when using a DE.


I know, in my case its acpi-eeepc-generic that, by default, suspends the 
system when closing the lid.


But thats not the point. What I tried to say is, I do have an Intel 
video card and experienced problems as mentioned in the original post.
I didn't have to suspend the system but just close the screen lid 
(turning it off), then after opening the lid again the screen would 
remain blank/off occasionally, no matter what I tried.


However, it didn't happen to me in the last month, IIRC there was a 
kernel update, I think this has resolved my issues.


Bye,
Christoph



Re: [arch-general] intel video suspend

2010-06-18 Thread Ray Rashif
On 18 June 2010 16:12, Christoph Rissner c...@visotech.at wrote:
 On 06/18/2010 09:54 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

 That_is_  the default behaviour - the laptop should do nothing at all
 when the lid is closed. I know of no particular hardware/BIOS that
 sets a sleep action upon lid closure. It is only altered by userspace
 tools/daemons like for eg. when using a DE.

 I know, in my case its acpi-eeepc-generic that, by default, suspends the
 system when closing the lid.

 But thats not the point. What I tried to say is, I do have an Intel video
 card and experienced problems as mentioned in the original post.
 I didn't have to suspend the system but just close the screen lid (turning
 it off), then after opening the lid again the screen would remain blank/off
 occasionally, no matter what I tried.

 However, it didn't happen to me in the last month, IIRC there was a kernel
 update, I think this has resolved my issues.

Ahh, alright. I myself have last faced it last year, and I did find it
very strange that such a hardware-level feature could have anything to
do with the OS. I have never bothered to figure it out, it just works
now.


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Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-18 Thread Ionuț Bîru

On 06/18/2010 09:30 AM, Allan McRae wrote:

On 18/06/10 16:24, Daniel Bumke wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know what's going on with boost? It seems it was downgraded
from 1.42.0 to 1.41.0 a while back, and hasn't been updated to the
latest 1.43.0.

I was going to build the latest on my machine, but if there's something
wrong with it I might hold off or go with the older version. I know
there was some talk about splitting it up; is that the reason?



 From memory 1.42 broke encfs. The encfs developers blame boost, the
boost developers blame encfs, so nothing was done in recent updates from
either side.

So we either update boost or break encfs...

Allan


encfs devs released a new version which works with  1.41.

yesterday i built 1.43 but the splitting is holding me back. It has a 
very annoying build system and until now we have in the bugtracker one 
which is copying files around from a directory to another. FS#19749


--
Ionuț


Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-18 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 18.06.2010 11:38, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
 On 06/18/2010 09:30 AM, Allan McRae wrote:
 On 18/06/10 16:24, Daniel Bumke wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone know what's going on with boost? It seems it was downgraded
 from 1.42.0 to 1.41.0 a while back, and hasn't been updated to the
 latest 1.43.0.

 I was going to build the latest on my machine, but if there's something
 wrong with it I might hold off or go with the older version. I know
 there was some talk about splitting it up; is that the reason?


  From memory 1.42 broke encfs. The encfs developers blame boost, the
 boost developers blame encfs, so nothing was done in recent updates from
 either side.

 So we either update boost or break encfs...

 Allan

 encfs devs released a new version which works with  1.41.

 yesterday i built 1.43 but the splitting is holding me back. It has a
 very annoying build system and until now we have in the bugtracker one
 which is copying files around from a directory to another. FS#19749

What's the issue here though? We have a working split package and
everyone is happy? Bjam is a crappy build system but until CMake is more
actively maintained by Boost (last boost-cmake release was 1.41) it'll
have to do. Boost is an important part of C++ development, it should not
go without update in Arch.

-- Sven-Hendrik


[arch-general] How do I get my Canon MP630 working under Arch?

2010-06-18 Thread Jordan Windsor
I would like to get my Canon MP630 (all in one) printer working under
Arch, I only need the printing abilities though.
I have installed the following packages and read the Arch wiki CUPS
article along with many other websites:
cnijfilter-common 3.00-3
hal-cups-utils
cups-canon
cups
libcups

I've tried adding the printer with the following URI's:
cnijusb:/dev/usb/lp2
hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4a9_172e_30AFBE_if1_printer_noserial

I've been unable to get it to print a test page.

Thanks!


Re: [arch-general] How do I get my Canon MP630 working under Arch?

2010-06-18 Thread Gmail
Jordan Windsor kirjoitti perjantai, 18. kesäkuuta 2010 13:22:00:
 I would like to get my Canon MP630 (all in one) printer working under
 Arch, I only need the printing abilities though.
 I have installed the following packages and read the Arch wiki CUPS
 article along with many other websites:
 cnijfilter-common 3.00-3
 hal-cups-utils
 cups-canon
 cups
 libcups
 
 I've tried adding the printer with the following URI's:
 cnijusb:/dev/usb/lp2
 hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4a9_172e_30AFBE_if1_printer_n
 oserial
 
 I've been unable to get it to print a test page.
 
 Thanks!

I had problems whit a cannoc printer too, check if you have 2 devices listed 
in cups, as for me the other one didn't work but the pother did. Sorry its 
been while sinse i intsleed it so I can't remeber propely


Re: [arch-general] What should the Arch Security Team be called?

2010-06-18 Thread Baho Utot

On 06/18/10 01:05, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

On 06/18/2010 03:48 AM, J. McBlane wrote:

Arch Security Enhancement Team?
Securing Arch For Everyone?
Arch Guard?

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:46:59PM +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote:

On to the first order of business. As the subject says, what should
security team be called. Hopefully we can get a few suggestions and
then reach a consensus. Arch Linux Security Task Force just sounds like
too much of a mouthful to me.

I was brooding over this and I thought some sort of acronym that's an
actual word would sound better, so I came up with this:

'Arch Response Team for Security' or ARTS. It's a bit cheesy and
cheats a bit to get the acronym but is instantly memorable. I'm aware
arts was also a KDE technology but it has long since been deprecated.

Ideas?

Ananda





I vote for Securing Arch For Everyone (SAFE)



First Arch Response Team ?


Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-18 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 18 Jun 2010 11:52 +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
 On 18.06.2010 11:38, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
  On 06/18/2010 09:30 AM, Allan McRae wrote:
  On 18/06/10 16:24, Daniel Bumke wrote:
  Does anyone know what's going on with boost? It seems it was downgraded
  from 1.42.0 to 1.41.0 a while back, and hasn't been updated to the
  latest 1.43.0.
 
  I was going to build the latest on my machine, but if there's something
  wrong with it I might hold off or go with the older version. I know
  there was some talk about splitting it up; is that the reason?
 
   From memory 1.42 broke encfs. The encfs developers blame boost, the
  boost developers blame encfs, so nothing was done in recent updates from
  either side.
 
  So we either update boost or break encfs...
 
  encfs devs released a new version which works with  1.41.
 
  yesterday i built 1.43 but the splitting is holding me back. It has a
  very annoying build system and until now we have in the bugtracker one
  which is copying files around from a directory to another. FS#19749

 What's the issue here though? We have a working split package and
 everyone is happy? Bjam is a crappy build system but until CMake is more
 actively maintained by Boost (last boost-cmake release was 1.41) it'll
 have to do. Boost is an important part of C++ development, it should not
 go without update in Arch.

Wow, this is kind of depressing. Why would some package in community
block an established library from being upgraded in extra?



Re: [arch-general] What should the Arch Security Team be called?

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Bannister
SUPER ARCH TEAM AWESOME

On 18 June 2010 11:32, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 On 06/18/10 01:05, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

 On 06/18/2010 03:48 AM, J. McBlane wrote:

 Arch Security Enhancement Team?
 Securing Arch For Everyone?
 Arch Guard?

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:46:59PM +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote:

 On to the first order of business. As the subject says, what should
 security team be called. Hopefully we can get a few suggestions and
 then reach a consensus. Arch Linux Security Task Force just sounds like
 too much of a mouthful to me.

 I was brooding over this and I thought some sort of acronym that's an
 actual word would sound better, so I came up with this:

 'Arch Response Team for Security' or ARTS. It's a bit cheesy and
 cheats a bit to get the acronym but is instantly memorable. I'm aware
 arts was also a KDE technology but it has long since been deprecated.

 Ideas?

 Ananda



 I vote for Securing Arch For Everyone (SAFE)


 First Arch Response Team ?



Re: [arch-general] How do I get my Canon MP630 working under Arch?

2010-06-18 Thread Jordan Windsor
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Gmail jesse.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jordan Windsor kirjoitti perjantai, 18. kesäkuuta 2010 13:22:00:
 I would like to get my Canon MP630 (all in one) printer working under
 Arch, I only need the printing abilities though.
 I have installed the following packages and read the Arch wiki CUPS
 article along with many other websites:
 cnijfilter-common 3.00-3
 hal-cups-utils
 cups-canon
 cups
 libcups

 I've tried adding the printer with the following URI's:
 cnijusb:/dev/usb/lp2
 hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4a9_172e_30AFBE_if1_printer_n
 oserial

 I've been unable to get it to print a test page.

 Thanks!

 I had problems whit a cannoc printer too, check if you have 2 devices listed
 in cups, as for me the other one didn't work but the pother did. Sorry its
 been while sinse i intsleed it so I can't remeber propely


When I use 
hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4a9_172e_30AFBE_if1_printer_noserial
as the URI with this PPD file Canon MP630 series Ver.3.00 It wont
print anything (including test prints) it automatically completes any
jobs I give it, when I give it the URI of cnijusb:/dev/usb/lp2 with
the PPD file Canon PIXMA MP610 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.5 it display
this as the status Paused - Printing page 1, 2% with the state of
the job as /usr/lib/cups/backend/cnijusb failed, when I give it the
PPD of Canon MP620-630 series Ver.2.80en it also automatically
completes all jobs without actually printing anything.

Thanks.


[arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to 
know that it was arch 0.8 !!!

How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?

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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Angel Velásquez
pacman -Syu

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote:
 I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to
 know that it was arch 0.8 !!!
 How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?

 --
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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Ionuț Bîru

On 06/18/2010 03:38 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to
know that it was arch 0.8 !!!
How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?



you should ask them to get the latest openvz template:

http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-i686-minimal.tar.gz
http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-x86_64-minimal.tar.gz

those are created by me and mostly because nobody cared for so many years :)

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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

On 06/18/2010 06:10 PM, Angel Velásquez wrote:

pacman -Syu

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Nilesh Govindarajanli...@itech7.com  wrote:

I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to
know that it was arch 0.8 !!!
How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?

--
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In order to refresh the db, I ran pacman -Sy which gives this error:
config: line 1: all directives must belong to a section
config: line 1: all directives must belong to a section
config: line 1: all directives must belong to a section
:: Synchronizing package databases...
failed to synchronize current
failed to synchronize extra
error: could not open sync database: current
   have you used --refresh yet?


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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

On 06/18/2010 06:14 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

On 06/18/2010 03:38 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to
know that it was arch 0.8 !!!
How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?



you should ask them to get the latest openvz template:

http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-i686-minimal.tar.gz

http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-x86_64-minimal.tar.gz


those are created by me and mostly because nobody cared for so many
years :)

I managed to get arch with them after a lot of push, anyway, leave that 
part.


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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 18.06.2010 14:38, schrieb Nilesh Govindarajan:
 I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to
 know that it was arch 0.8 !!!
 How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?
 

I don't think you can:
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-June/017096.html



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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

Its over finally. Some tar -xf stuff, etc. made it possible :)
Basically upgraded pacman and its deps directly from archlinux.org as 
someone suggested. Thanks to that one !


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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Damjan Georgievski
 I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to
 know that it was arch 0.8 !!!
 How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?


 you should ask them to get the latest openvz template:

 http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-i686-minimal.tar.gz
 http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-x86_64-minimal.tar.gz

 those are created by me and mostly because nobody cared for so many years :)

is there anything OpenVZ specific or it will work under LXC too?



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Re: [arch-general] b43: wireless issues

2010-06-18 Thread Magnus Therning
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:55, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote:
 Hi.
 I have the same chip and same issue. I found out that the b43 devs
 didn't figure out yet how to get the chip to work correctly, so unless
 something changed during the last weeks/months there's no real solution.
 Using the apparently slower PIO instead of DMA is a kernel compiletime
 option so far, but I read that as a workaround it's a module load option
 beginning with .34.
 It's a pity, the chip should have worked beginning with I afair .30. I
 wasted loads of time trying to get it to work, without luck.
 The broadcom driver works afair, but it annoyed me for some reasons.
 So for now I'm looking forward to .34 to hopefully have at least working
 wifi, even if slow.

I did find that there is a PIO-related option that I can put in
modprobe.conf, but that doesn't seem to be address the problem I have
(I also read that the b43 driver revert back to PIO automatically if
there are DMA problems).  Next step I'll try one of the daily
snapshots via the compat-wireless package.  If that doesn't work I'll
be very irritated indeed, enough so to volunteer my services to the
b43 devs for any testing they need to have done.

/M

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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Damjan Georgievski
 you should ask them to get the latest openvz template:


 http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-i686-minimal.tar.gz

 http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-x86_64-minimal.tar.gz

 those are created by me and mostly because nobody cared for so many years
 :)

 is there anything OpenVZ specific or it will work under LXC too?


 no idea what LXC is.

LXC is the Linux  Container Project, afaik a subset of OpenVZ that has
been merged in the vanilla kernel.

  just try it

The problem is I'm still learning LXC so I was wondering if your
templates are a good fit for that. I probably wont be able to solve
any problems if they ocur.


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Re: [arch-general] b43: wireless issues

2010-06-18 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Magnus Therning's message of 2010-06-18 16:49:11 +0200:
 On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:55, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com 
 wrote:
  Hi.
  I have the same chip and same issue. I found out that the b43 devs
  didn't figure out yet how to get the chip to work correctly, so unless
  something changed during the last weeks/months there's no real solution.
  Using the apparently slower PIO instead of DMA is a kernel compiletime
  option so far, but I read that as a workaround it's a module load option
  beginning with .34.
  It's a pity, the chip should have worked beginning with I afair .30. I
  wasted loads of time trying to get it to work, without luck.
  The broadcom driver works afair, but it annoyed me for some reasons.
  So for now I'm looking forward to .34 to hopefully have at least working
  wifi, even if slow.
 
 I did find that there is a PIO-related option that I can put in
 modprobe.conf, but that doesn't seem to be address the problem I have
 (I also read that the b43 driver revert back to PIO automatically if
 there are DMA problems).  Next step I'll try one of the daily
 snapshots via the compat-wireless package.  If that doesn't work I'll
 be very irritated indeed, enough so to volunteer my services to the
 b43 devs for any testing they need to have done.
 
 /M

I only read that stuff on their mailinglist and in some kernel log/mail
that they're gonna change it to a module load time option in kernel .34.
I don't know anything for sure. I don't think it reverts to PIO
automatically, and I don't think it will.
If you don't necessarily need the b43 driver then the broadcom thing in
AUR should work without too much hassle. One of the annoying things with
it is that you need to compile it against your kernel, so if you use
multiple kernels you're in for fun. Another nuisance is that the wifi
identifies itself as eth0 and wired as eth1. b43 is imho better in that
respect, eth0 for ethernet and wlan0 for wireless just makes more sense.
I also had the broadcom driver sometimes stall my machine for a couple
of seconds, usually after boot, which I consider bad behavior.

No idea about compat-wireless.
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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

On 06/18/2010 06:14 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

On 06/18/2010 03:38 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

I recently got a VPS and installed arch from their control panel just to
know that it was arch 0.8 !!!
How do I upgrade from arch 0.8 to the latest ?



you should ask them to get the latest openvz template:

http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-i686-minimal.tar.gz

http://download.openvz.org/contrib/template/precreated/arch-2010.05-x86_64-minimal.tar.gz


those are created by me and mostly because nobody cared for so many
years :)



I notified them about these templates, they were happy and agreed to use 
it. :) :) :)


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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Fabiano Furtado Pessoa Coelho
Eh... someone like... me? :)

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote:
 Its over finally. Some tar -xf stuff, etc. made it possible :)
 Basically upgraded pacman and its deps directly from archlinux.org as
 someone suggested. Thanks to that one !

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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

On 06/18/2010 09:14 PM, Fabiano Furtado Pessoa Coelho wrote:

Eh... someone like... me? :)

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Nilesh Govindarajanli...@itech7.com  wrote:

Its over finally. Some tar -xf stuff, etc. made it possible :)
Basically upgraded pacman and its deps directly from archlinux.org as
someone suggested. Thanks to that one !

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Yeah man ! ;)

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Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Gaurish Sharma
Hi,
If I may ask, which VPS provider it is?


Gaurish


Re: [arch-general] Upgrading from Arch 0.8 O.o

2010-06-18 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

On 06/18/2010 10:15 PM, Gaurish Sharma wrote:

Hi,
If I may ask, which VPS provider it is?


Gaurish


fsckvps.com
This was the second VPS I am configuring for a friend.
I have been using their UK service (link in my signature) for more than 
two years. They offer excellent quality service.


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[arch-general] perl-5.12

2010-06-18 Thread Caleb Cushing
So is there anything I can do to help to get this in stable? I haven't
had any problems personally in over a month. I think the only bug
still open for rebuilds is the dbd* one.

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Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-18 Thread Alexander Duscheleit
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:56:48 -0400
Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri 18 Jun 2010 11:52 +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
  On 18.06.2010 11:38, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
   On 06/18/2010 09:30 AM, Allan McRae wrote:
   On 18/06/10 16:24, Daniel Bumke wrote:
   Does anyone know what's going on with boost? It seems it was
   downgraded from 1.42.0 to 1.41.0 a while back, and hasn't been
   updated to the latest 1.43.0.
  
 
  What's the issue here though? We have a working split package and
  everyone is happy? Bjam is a crappy build system but until CMake is
  more actively maintained by Boost (last boost-cmake release was
  1.41) it'll have to do. Boost is an important part of C++
  development, it should not go without update in Arch.
 
 Wow, this is kind of depressing. Why would some package in community
 block an established library from being upgraded in extra?
 

In this special case, because it caused data loss of probably very
important files (hence encrypted) _without_ prior warning.

But there seems to be a trend starting in this direction which worries
me a little. IIRC there is nothing holding back Xorg 1.8 except for
legacy nvidia drivers, and that for quite a while. If that is true,
it's even more depressing for me, since nobody waited for us poor ATI
R500 users when catalyst dropped support. :)


[arch-general] gnome only install - installing compiz pulls in kde4-runtime?? Why?

2010-06-18 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys,

First install with the 2010-5 dual net install on an i686 box. Kudos, 
install
was painless. Only issue was I had my pkg/ dir on a usb stick and I couldn't get
the installer to use it for install. I mounted it where it was supposed to be
mounted according to the installer (don't remember exactly /src/core/pkg or the
like). It couldn't find the core.blah package...

This is the first install where I haven't install kde/kdm. For this 
install, I
only installed gnome/gdm. I don't want kde4 within 10 feet of this box. I do
want compiz installed. When I installed compiz, it pulled in kde4 runtime, the
compiz-decorator-kde, kdelibs, etc..

Why?  Can't I just have a gnome box with compiz? Can I uninstall the 
kde4 mess?



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Re: [arch-general] gnome only install - installing compiz pulls in kde4-runtime?? Why?

2010-06-18 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:51 AM, David C. Rankin
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 Guys,

        First install with the 2010-5 dual net install on an i686 box. Kudos, 
 install
 was painless. Only issue was I had my pkg/ dir on a usb stick and I couldn't 
 get
 the installer to use it for install. I mounted it where it was supposed to be
 mounted according to the installer (don't remember exactly /src/core/pkg or 
 the
 like). It couldn't find the core.blah package...

        This is the first install where I haven't install kde/kdm. For this 
 install, I
 only installed gnome/gdm. I don't want kde4 within 10 feet of this box. I do
 want compiz installed. When I installed compiz, it pulled in kde4 runtime, the
 compiz-decorator-kde, kdelibs, etc..

        Why?  Can't I just have a gnome box with compiz? Can I uninstall the 
 kde4 mess?

See here: 
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz#Install_from_.5Bcommunity.5D


Re: [arch-general] gnome only install - installing compiz pulls in kde4-runtime?? Why?

2010-06-18 Thread Allan McRae

On 19/06/10 14:51, David C. Rankin wrote:

Guys,

First install with the 2010-5 dual net install on an i686 box. Kudos, 
install
was painless. Only issue was I had my pkg/ dir on a usb stick and I couldn't get
the installer to use it for install. I mounted it where it was supposed to be
mounted according to the installer (don't remember exactly /src/core/pkg or the
like). It couldn't find the core.blah package...

This is the first install where I haven't install kde/kdm. For this 
install, I
only installed gnome/gdm. I don't want kde4 within 10 feet of this box. I do
want compiz installed. When I installed compiz, it pulled in kde4 runtime, the
compiz-decorator-kde, kdelibs, etc..

Why?  Can't I just have a gnome box with compiz? Can I uninstall the 
kde4 mess?



You obviously do not want the whole compiz group which includes 
compiz-decorator-kde.


To install just the gtk stuff:
pacman -S compiz-core compiz-decorator-gtk

or if you have already done the install:
pacman -Rs compiz-decorator-kde