Re: Compound qualification for a GetList web service

2011-06-10 Thread L G Robinson
Hi Chintan,

Thanks for the additional suggestions. I believe I will take a different
aproach...

Instead of returning complete records on the get-list request based on the
qualification supplied by the user, I will return a subset of the fields,
specifically excluding the field(s) that may contain information that is not
for general consumption. But I will include the Entry-id as one of the
returned fields.

Then I will provide another web service (get-entry) which will return all of
the fields for a single entry, specified by Entry-id. Then I can impose my
additional restriction on the qualification for the request since the
customer will just be supplying the Entry-id and not a complete
qualification. I know how to do this and have successfully done it on
another service.

This is not exactly what I was shooting for because it requires additional
steps for the user, but it will give me assurance that the restricted
information does not leak out through this web service.

Thanks again for your thoughts on this question.

Larry


On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Chintan Shah cbss...@yahoo.com wrote:

 ** Ah..I c what you are saying now..Sorry,  in all of my conversation, I
 thought you would be comparing XPATH Qualification to some field on form but
 that's not the case. My bad for not reading the thread properly.

 IMHO, there are 2 solutions for this(there could be more..but this is what
 I can think of so far)..again this might not be the most elegant solution on
 planet but it can get job done.

 1. Build an automated workflow that would push all Distribution!=Internal
 records to a staging form and build web-service from staging form. In that
 case you will never need AND 'Distribution'!=Internal qualification
 appended. This is probably good since amount of records to traverse would be
 lesser than what is on source form and it would take query off the source
 form. One of caveat I see upfront is that you will have to spend time in
 building that staging form(you can probably just do a save as on source
 form) and maintaining that workflow that pushes records to it.

 2. Client should supply complete qualification(as you mentioned you will be
 at the mercy of the client)

 Does #1 help or does it over-complicate :)?

 Thanks
 Chintan.



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Re: Compound qualification for a GetList web service

2011-06-09 Thread L G Robinson
Hi Chintan,

Yes, I understand completely that I am at the mercy of the consumer with
regard to what they put in the qualification. You did not confuse me. :-)

However, when I put the following into the Qualification: box in Developer
Studio:

   XPATH(/ROOT/qualification) AND 'distribution' != Internal

I receive the following error:

   ERROR (1583): Expected a relational operation at this point;  position 0,
 5147,  solutions

Dev Studio is trying to make sure that this is a syntactically-correct
qualification, and it is not.

So this is the original problem/question... how do I combine
XPATH(/ROOT/qualification) with my own additional qualification?

Thanks for your continued interest.
Larry

1583 Error
Relational operator expected at this position.
The only legal operator at this position in a search line is a relational
operator (=, !=, , =, , =, or LIKE). Fix the format of the line, and
perform the search again.


Larry Robinson
NC State University
Remedy Admin / Developer


On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Chintan Shah cbss...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **
 Hi Larry,

 As far as i know, you will be able to control the AND 'distribution' !=
 Internal  from qualification bar, however you will be relying on client
 for Qualification' string. Clients will be responsible for completing the
 brackets appropriately otherwise meaning of entire qualification might
 change.

 This goes back to what your requirements are and you will need to educate
 clients of the web-services accordingly

 e.g.
 1. Client can pass this in XPATH qualification(notice incomplete bracket)

 Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy
 You append this
AND 'distribution' != Internal
 making your entire qualification look like this

 Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy AND 'distribution'
 != Internal

 2. Client can pass this in XPATH qualification(notice brackets are
 completed)

 Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy)
 You append this
AND 'distribution' != Internal
 making your entire qualification look like this

 Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy) AND 'distribution'
 != Internal
 --I believe this might be the qualification you would be looking for.

 In a nutshell, you would be dependent on client of web-service for
 XPATH-Qualification piece.

 Hoping I did not confuse you :).

 Thanks
 Chintan.


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Re: Compound qualification for a GetList web service

2011-06-09 Thread Chintan Shah
Ah..I c what you are saying now..Sorry,  in all of my conversation, I thought 
you would be comparing XPATH Qualification to some field on form but that's not 
the case. My bad for not reading the thread properly.

IMHO, there are 2 solutions for this(there could be more..but this is what I 
can think of so far)..again this might not be the most elegant solution on 
planet but it can get job done.

1. Build an automated workflow that would push all Distribution!=Internal 
records to a staging form and build web-service from staging form. In that case 
you will never need AND 'Distribution'!=Internal qualification appended. This 
is probably good since amount of records to traverse would be lesser than what 
is on source form and it would take query off the source form. One of caveat I 
see upfront is that you will have to spend time in building that staging 
form(you can probably just do a save as on source form) and maintaining that 
workflow that pushes records to it.

2. Client should supply complete qualification(as you mentioned you will be at 
the mercy of the client)

Does #1 help or does it over-complicate :)?

Thanks
Chintan.
--- On Thu, 6/9/11, L G Robinson n...@ncsu.edu wrote:

From: L G Robinson n...@ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: Compound qualification for a GetList web service
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 12:37 PM

**
Hi Chintan,
Yes, I understand completely that I am at the mercy of the consumer with regard 
to what they put in the qualification. You did not confuse me. :-)

However, when I put the following into the Qualification: box in Developer 
Studio:
   XPATH(/ROOT/qualification) AND 'distribution' != Internal

I receive the following error:
   ERROR (1583): Expected a relational operation at this point;  position 0,  
5147,  solutions
Dev Studio is trying to make sure that this is a syntactically-correct 
qualification, and it is not.

So this is the original problem/question... how do I combine 
XPATH(/ROOT/qualification) with my own additional qualification?
Thanks for your continued interest.Larry

1583 ErrorRelational operator expected at this position.The only legal operator 
at this position in a search line is a relational operator (=, !=, , =, , 
=, or LIKE). Fix the format of the line, and perform the search again.


Larry RobinsonNC State UniversityRemedy Admin / Developer

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Chintan Shah cbss...@yahoo.com wrote:

**


Hi Larry,

As far as i know, you will be able to control the AND 'distribution' != 
Internal  from qualification
 bar, however you will be relying on client for Qualification' string. Clients 
will be responsible for completing the brackets appropriately otherwise meaning 
of entire qualification might change.

This goes back to what your requirements are and you will need to educate 
clients of the web-services accordingly


e.g.
1. Client can pass this in XPATH qualification(notice incomplete bracket)
   
 Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy
You append this
   AND 'distribution' != Internal
making your entire qualification look like this

Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy AND 'distribution' != 
Internal

2. Client can pass this in XPATH qualification(notice brackets are completed)

   
 Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy)
You append this
   AND 'distribution' != Internal
making your entire qualification look like this

Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy) AND 'distribution' != 
Internal
--I believe this might be the qualification you would be looking for.


In a nutshell, you would be dependent on client of web-service for 
XPATH-Qualification piece.

Hoping I did not confuse you :).

Thanks
Chintan.

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Re: Compound qualification for a GetList web service

2011-06-08 Thread L G Robinson
Hi Chintan,

Thanks for the reply. I realize that I can mix and match fields from the
form and from the XPATH but I am unclear on how to combine them to achieve
the desired result. Maybe an example will help:

Suppose that XPATH(/ROOT/qualification) is something like the following:

urn:qualificationWorkgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR
word=remedy)/urn:qualification

What I want to actually send to the server as the query is the following:

   Workgroup=REMEDY AND ( word=email OR word=remedy AND 'distribution'
!= Internal

But I can not figure out how to combine XPATH(/ROOT/qualification) with the
additional clause to achive the desired result.

Thanks.
Larry

Larry Robinson
Remedy Admin/Developer
NC State University


On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Chintan Shah cbss...@yahoo.com wrote:

 ** Hi Larry,

 Yes you can do it.

 In qualification bar, you should have an option of using either the field
 from the form or an element from XPATH.

 What you mentioned below should work.

 Thanks
 Chintan.

 --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, L G Robinson n...@ncsu.edu* wrote:


 From: L G Robinson n...@ncsu.edu
 Subject: Compound qualification for a GetList web service
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 12:23 PM

 **
 Hi Folks,

 I need some help formulating a qualification for a GetList web service.
 Simplistically, I want to do the following:

(XPATH(/ROOT/Qualification)) AND ('distribution' != Internal)

 But this is not syntactically correct. In words, I want to take whatever
 qualification the user has supplied and add the:

('distribution' != Internal)

 clause to the qualification that gets passed to the service. 'distribution'
 is a field on the form being searched.

 Is there a syntax for this? Is it possible to build something like this
 using EXTERNAL()?

 I am just learning about creating and consuming ARS web services so any
 guidance and/or insights will be greatly appreciated.

 ARS 7.6.03
 Solaris 10
 Oracle 11.2.0.1.0 - 64bit

 Thanks.
 Larry



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Compound qualification for a GetList web service

2011-06-07 Thread L G Robinson
Hi Folks,

I need some help formulating a qualification for a GetList web service.
Simplistically, I want to do the following:

   (XPATH(/ROOT/Qualification)) AND ('distribution' != Internal)

But this is not syntactically correct. In words, I want to take whatever
qualification the user has supplied and add the:

   ('distribution' != Internal)

clause to the qualification that gets passed to the service. 'distribution'
is a field on the form being searched.

Is there a syntax for this? Is it possible to build something like this
using EXTERNAL()?

I am just learning about creating and consuming ARS web services so any
guidance and/or insights will be greatly appreciated.

ARS 7.6.03
Solaris 10
Oracle 11.2.0.1.0 - 64bit

Thanks.
Larry

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Re: Compound qualification for a GetList web service

2011-06-07 Thread Chintan Shah
Hi Larry,

Yes you can do it. 

In qualification bar, you should have an option of using either the field from 
the form or an element from XPATH.

What you mentioned below should work.

Thanks
Chintan.

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, L G Robinson n...@ncsu.edu wrote:

From: L G Robinson n...@ncsu.edu
Subject: Compound qualification for a GetList web service
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 12:23 PM

**
Hi Folks,
I need some help formulating a qualification for a GetList web service. 
Simplistically, I want to do the following:

   (XPATH(/ROOT/Qualification)) AND ('distribution' != Internal)
But this is not syntactically correct. In words, I want to take whatever 
qualification the user has supplied and add the:

   ('distribution' != Internal)
clause to the qualification that gets passed to the service. 'distribution' is 
a field on the form being searched.

Is there a syntax for this? Is it possible to build something like this using 
EXTERNAL()?
I am just learning about creating and consuming ARS web services so any 
guidance and/or insights will be greatly appreciated.

ARS 7.6.03Solaris 10Oracle 11.2.0.1.0 - 64bit
Thanks.Larry
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