Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-20 Thread David Durling
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Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-20 Thread David Durling
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(Sorry - look like outlook issue struck me too.)

Tauf,

I also wonder if you separate the requests  bulk mail into 2 mailboxes, if=
 you can control the order of which is polled first so that on each polling=
 interval the request box  would be polled first.  Don=92t know what contro=
ls polling order =96 name, create date of mailbox configuration record, or =
what.  But maybe that would save you maintaining more than 1 email engine.

David

David Durling
University of Georgia



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Enterprise IT Servicesdurl...@uga.edumailto:durl...@uga.edu
University of Georgia

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on behalf of Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:40 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

**
Thanks Randeep! Lots of good info here. I'll check it out and report back.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Randeep Atwal ratwals...@gmail.commailto:rat=
wals...@gmail.com wrote:

**
Hi Tauf,

I had faced a similar problem in the past.  Upwards of 30 mailboxes across =
different departments.  We did have just one email engine configured for al=
l of them, but ran into large latency since it would go through them all se=
rially, meaning that mailboxes with 1 or 2 unread messages could take a rea=
lly long time to arrive since the email engine goes through each one serial=
ly, and there would be some high volume 'bulk' type email boxes; pretty muc=
h what you are describing.

Here are a bunch of performance tips to speed up email processing in genera=
l.  This may help significantly with your issue.

https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-18514

However, if it is still not good enough for your customers, and you want to=
 get the best possible throughput, (i.e. process in parallel) yes you can i=
nstall multiple email engines on a single server in seperate directories or=
 install multiple on a seperate server or even a set of servers.  You want =
to determine how to dothis based on available memory and cpu for each serve=
r, but in your case with just two incoming email inboxes, two email engine =
instances on the same machine should be fine.  I would avoid putting email =
engine as a service in a server group if you do this, and also recommend ke=
eping email startup seperate from arsystem startup.

After installing, and before starting it, you need to edit the emaildaemon.=
properties for each instance to tell it which mailboxes it is responsible f=
or.  I think the installer will ask you for your target arserver name durin=
g install, but the emaildaemon.properties also holds this information.

com.remedy.arsys.emaildaemon.Mailboxes=3D
If you run multiple email engines for a single server, this setting
specifies which mailboxes this email engine should process. The
value should contain comma-separated mailbox names. If the
value is empty, the email engine processes all of the mailboxes
configured for the server. If the value is not empty, the email
engine processes the specified mailboxes only.

HTH

Thanks

Randeep


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.grooms@xo=
.commailto:frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:
Just use the one Email Engine and put multiple mailboxes in the Email Confi=
guration form.  On Startup the engine reads the configuration and sets up t=
he necessary threads.

I don't think there is a way for an Email Engine to specify which mailboxes=
 it will process (You can specify which servers, but I don't think you can =
go any deeper than that so it is an all-mailboxes on the server or none).

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIS=
T.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

Right, but my question is more on the how to set it up on the server itself=
 or if I should use multiple servers each with it's own instance of the ema=
il engine. That's where I'm fuzzy and the documentation isn't there either.

Sent from my iPhone

-Original Message-
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Grooms, Frederick W  wrote:

 If you set up separate inbound mailboxes, each mailbox should have its ow=
n threads

 Fred

  Original message 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSL=
IST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:53 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

 **
 Thanks Shawn. Let me elaborate further on the issue.
 Right now, there's a single email address. This email is receiving both u=
ser requests

Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-19 Thread Pierson, Shawn
The easiest way to do it is that I have distribution lists with just the 
inbound Remedy email account, and filter the incoming emails based on those.

For example, I may have 
remedyservert...@blah.commailto:remedyservert...@blah.com and 
remedyserviced...@blah.commailto:remedyserviced...@blah.com as two 
distribution lists that both contain only the 
remedym...@blah.commailto:remedym...@blah.com account.  When an email to 
either of those are sent in (where you have to look at not just the To: line 
but the CC: line), Remedy has RBE rules to process them and create an Incident 
with a Template for the Server team, Service Desk, or whatever.  Since inbound 
email uses Outlook profiles it seems like it might be kind of tricky or at 
least less stable to set up multiple instances on a single server so I’ve never 
gone with that approach.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Multiple incoming email boxes

**
All,
What is the best way to configure the email engine on the server side? I know 
you can set up multiple inbound email records in the Email config form but I'm 
more interested on the server side. Do I have to have multiple email engine 
services installed on the same box? Can I install the email engine on 2 
separate servers?
Thanks..

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Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-19 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Thanks Shawn. Let me elaborate further on the issue.
Right now, there's a single email address. This email is receiving both
user requests and also what we call bulk requests from event management
systems etc... So what is happening now is that the bulk requests which are
high in number are being processed ahead of the user requests because of
the order that they come in. This is leading to the user experiencing a
delay in their ticket being generated. That is the crux of the issue that
we are trying to figure out the best approach to. Logically, we thought
that sending the bulk requests to a separate email address/mailbox and
processing them separately would help. That is why I am trying to set up
multiple boxes.


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Pierson, Shawn 
shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com wrote:

 **

 The easiest way to do it is that I have distribution lists with just the
 inbound Remedy email account, and filter the incoming emails based on those.



 For example, I may have remedyservert...@blah.com and
 remedyserviced...@blah.com as two distribution lists that both contain
 only the remedym...@blah.com account.  When an email to either of those
 are sent in (where you have to look at not just the To: line but the CC:
 line), Remedy has RBE rules to process them and create an Incident with a
 Template for the Server team, Service Desk, or whatever.  Since inbound
 email uses Outlook profiles it seems like it might be kind of tricky or at
 least less stable to set up multiple instances on a single server so I’ve
 never gone with that approach.



 Thanks,



 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer



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 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:22 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Multiple incoming email boxes



 **

 All,

 What is the best way to configure the email engine on the server side? I
 know you can set up multiple inbound email records in the Email config form
 but I'm more interested on the server side. Do I have to have multiple
 email engine services installed on the same box? Can I install the email
 engine on 2 separate servers?

 Thanks..



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Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-19 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
If you set up separate inbound mailboxes, each mailbox should have its own 
threads

Fred

 Original message 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

** 
Thanks Shawn. Let me elaborate further on the issue. 
Right now, there's a single email address. This email is receiving both user 
requests and also what we call bulk requests from event management systems 
etc... So what is happening now is that the bulk requests which are high in 
number are being processed ahead of the user requests because of the order that 
they come in. This is leading to the user experiencing a delay in their ticket 
being generated. That is the crux of the issue that we are trying to figure out 
the best approach to. Logically, we thought that sending the bulk requests to a 
separate email address/mailbox and processing them separately would help. That 
is why I am trying to set up multiple boxes. 

 Original message 
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Pierson, Shawn  wrote:
** 
The easiest way to do it is that I have distribution lists with just the 
inbound Remedy email account, and filter the incoming emails based on those.
 
For example, I may have remedyservert...@blah.com and 
remedyserviced...@blah.com as two distribution lists that both contain only the 
remedym...@blah.com account.  When an email to either of those are sent in 
(where you have to look at not just the To: line but the CC: line), Remedy has 
RBE rules to process them and create an Incident with a Template for the Server 
team, Service Desk, or whatever.  Since inbound email uses Outlook profiles it 
seems like it might be kind of tricky or at least less stable to set up 
multiple instances on a single server so I’ve never gone with that approach.
 
Thanks,
 
Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

 Original message  
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Multiple incoming email boxes
 
** 
All,
What is the best way to configure the email engine on the server side? I know 
you can set up multiple inbound email records in the Email config form but I'm 
more interested on the server side. Do I have to have multiple email engine 
services installed on the same box? Can I install the email engine on 2 
separate servers? 
Thanks..

 
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Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-19 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Right, but my question is more on the how to set it up on the server itself or 
if I should use multiple servers each with it's own instance of the email 
engine. That's where I'm fuzzy and the documentation isn't there either. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Grooms, Frederick W 
 frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:
 
 If you set up separate inbound mailboxes, each mailbox should have its own 
 threads
 
 Fred
 
  Original message 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:53 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes
 
 ** 
 Thanks Shawn. Let me elaborate further on the issue. 
 Right now, there's a single email address. This email is receiving both user 
 requests and also what we call bulk requests from event management systems 
 etc... So what is happening now is that the bulk requests which are high in 
 number are being processed ahead of the user requests because of the order 
 that they come in. This is leading to the user experiencing a delay in their 
 ticket being generated. That is the crux of the issue that we are trying to 
 figure out the best approach to. Logically, we thought that sending the bulk 
 requests to a separate email address/mailbox and processing them separately 
 would help. That is why I am trying to set up multiple boxes. 
 
  Original message 
 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Pierson, Shawn  wrote:
 ** 
 The easiest way to do it is that I have distribution lists with just the 
 inbound Remedy email account, and filter the incoming emails based on those.
  
 For example, I may have remedyservert...@blah.com and 
 remedyserviced...@blah.com as two distribution lists that both contain only 
 the remedym...@blah.com account.  When an email to either of those are sent 
 in (where you have to look at not just the To: line but the CC: line), Remedy 
 has RBE rules to process them and create an Incident with a Template for the 
 Server team, Service Desk, or whatever.  Since inbound email uses Outlook 
 profiles it seems like it might be kind of tricky or at least less stable to 
 set up multiple instances on a single server so I’ve never gone with that 
 approach.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Shawn Pierson 
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
 
  Original message  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Multiple incoming email boxes
  
 ** 
 All,
 What is the best way to configure the email engine on the server side? I know 
 you can set up multiple inbound email records in the Email config form but 
 I'm more interested on the server side. Do I have to have multiple email 
 engine services installed on the same box? Can I install the email engine on 
 2 separate servers? 
 Thanks..
 
  
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Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-19 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Just use the one Email Engine and put multiple mailboxes in the Email 
Configuration form.  On Startup the engine reads the configuration and sets up 
the necessary threads.  

I don't think there is a way for an Email Engine to specify which mailboxes it 
will process (You can specify which servers, but I don't think you can go any 
deeper than that so it is an all-mailboxes on the server or none).

Fred

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

Right, but my question is more on the how to set it up on the server itself or 
if I should use multiple servers each with it's own instance of the email 
engine. That's where I'm fuzzy and the documentation isn't there either. 

Sent from my iPhone

-Original Message-
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Grooms, Frederick W  wrote:
 
 If you set up separate inbound mailboxes, each mailbox should have its own 
 threads
 
 Fred
 
  Original message 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:53 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes
 
 ** 
 Thanks Shawn. Let me elaborate further on the issue. 
 Right now, there's a single email address. This email is receiving both user 
 requests and also what we call bulk requests from event management systems 
 etc... So what is happening now is that the bulk requests which are high in 
 number are being processed ahead of the user requests because of the order 
 that they come in. This is leading to the user experiencing a delay in their 
 ticket being generated. That is the crux of the issue that we are trying to 
 figure out the best approach to. Logically, we thought that sending the bulk 
 requests to a separate email address/mailbox and processing them separately 
 would help. That is why I am trying to set up multiple boxes. 
 
  Original message 
 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Pierson, Shawn  wrote:
 ** 
 The easiest way to do it is that I have distribution lists with just the 
 inbound Remedy email account, and filter the incoming emails based on those.
  
 For example, I may have remedyservert...@blah.com and 
 remedyserviced...@blah.com as two distribution lists that both contain only 
 the remedym...@blah.com account.  When an email to either of those are sent 
 in (where you have to look at not just the To: line but the CC: line), Remedy 
 has RBE rules to process them and create an Incident with a Template for the 
 Server team, Service Desk, or whatever.  Since inbound email uses Outlook 
 profiles it seems like it might be kind of tricky or at least less stable to 
 set up multiple instances on a single server so I’ve never gone with that 
 approach.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Shawn Pierson 
 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
 
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 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Multiple incoming email boxes
  
 ** 
 All,
 What is the best way to configure the email engine on the server side? I know 
 you can set up multiple inbound email records in the Email config form but 
 I'm more interested on the server side. Do I have to have multiple email 
 engine services installed on the same box? Can I install the email engine on 
 2 separate servers? 
 Thanks..
 
  
 -- 
 Tauf Chowdhury



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Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-19 Thread Randeep Atwal
Hi Tauf,

I had faced a similar problem in the past.  Upwards of 30 mailboxes across
different departments.  We did have just one email engine configured for
all of them, but ran into large latency since it would go through them all
serially, meaning that mailboxes with 1 or 2 unread messages could take a
really long time to arrive since the email engine goes through each one
serially, and there would be some high volume 'bulk' type email boxes;
pretty much what you are describing.

Here are a bunch of performance tips to speed up email processing in
general.  This may help significantly with your issue.

https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-18514

However, if it is still not good enough for your customers, and you want to
get the best possible throughput, (i.e. process in parallel) yes you can
install multiple email engines on a single server in seperate directories
or install multiple on a seperate server or even a set of servers.  You
want to determine how to dothis based on available memory and cpu for each
server, but in your case with just two incoming email inboxes, two email
engine instances on the same machine should be fine.  I would avoid putting
email engine as a service in a server group if you do this, and also
recommend keeping email startup seperate from arsystem startup.

After installing, and before starting it, you need to edit the
emaildaemon.properties for each instance to tell it which mailboxes it is
responsible for.  I think the installer will ask you for your target
arserver name during install, but the emaildaemon.properties also holds
this information.

com.remedy.arsys.emaildaemon.Mailboxes=
If you run multiple email engines for a single server, this setting
specifies which mailboxes this email engine should process. The
value should contain comma-separated mailbox names. If the
value is empty, the email engine processes all of the mailboxes
configured for the server. If the value is not empty, the email
engine processes the specified mailboxes only.

HTH

Thanks

Randeep


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Grooms, Frederick W 
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 Just use the one Email Engine and put multiple mailboxes in the Email
 Configuration form.  On Startup the engine reads the configuration and sets
 up the necessary threads.

 I don't think there is a way for an Email Engine to specify which
 mailboxes it will process (You can specify which servers, but I don't think
 you can go any deeper than that so it is an all-mailboxes on the server or
 none).

 Fred

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:11 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

 Right, but my question is more on the how to set it up on the server
 itself or if I should use multiple servers each with it's own instance of
 the email engine. That's where I'm fuzzy and the documentation isn't there
 either.

 Sent from my iPhone

 -Original Message-
  On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Grooms, Frederick W  wrote:
 
  If you set up separate inbound mailboxes, each mailbox should have its
 own threads
 
  Fred
 
   Original message 
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:53 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes
 
  **
  Thanks Shawn. Let me elaborate further on the issue.
  Right now, there's a single email address. This email is receiving both
 user requests and also what we call bulk requests from event management
 systems etc... So what is happening now is that the bulk requests which are
 high in number are being processed ahead of the user requests because of
 the order that they come in. This is leading to the user experiencing a
 delay in their ticket being generated. That is the crux of the issue that
 we are trying to figure out the best approach to. Logically, we thought
 that sending the bulk requests to a separate email address/mailbox and
 processing them separately would help. That is why I am trying to set up
 multiple boxes.
 
   Original message 
  On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Pierson, Shawn  wrote:
  **
  The easiest way to do it is that I have distribution lists with just the
 inbound Remedy email account, and filter the incoming emails based on those.
 
  For example, I may have remedyservert...@blah.com and
 remedyserviced...@blah.com as two distribution lists that both contain
 only the remedym...@blah.com account.  When an email to either of those
 are sent in (where you have to look at not just the To: line but the CC:
 line), Remedy has RBE rules to process them and create an Incident with a
 Template for the Server team, Service Desk, or whatever.  Since inbound
 email uses Outlook profiles it seems like it might be kind of tricky or at
 least

Re: Multiple incoming email boxes

2014-06-19 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Thanks Randeep! Lots of good info here. I'll check it out and report back. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Randeep Atwal ratwals...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 **
 Hi Tauf,
 
 I had faced a similar problem in the past.  Upwards of 30 mailboxes across 
 different departments.  We did have just one email engine configured for all 
 of them, but ran into large latency since it would go through them all 
 serially, meaning that mailboxes with 1 or 2 unread messages could take a 
 really long time to arrive since the email engine goes through each one 
 serially, and there would be some high volume 'bulk' type email boxes; pretty 
 much what you are describing.
 
 Here are a bunch of performance tips to speed up email processing in general. 
  This may help significantly with your issue.
 
 https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-18514
 
 However, if it is still not good enough for your customers, and you want to 
 get the best possible throughput, (i.e. process in parallel) yes you can 
 install multiple email engines on a single server in seperate directories or 
 install multiple on a seperate server or even a set of servers.  You want to 
 determine how to dothis based on available memory and cpu for each server, 
 but in your case with just two incoming email inboxes, two email engine 
 instances on the same machine should be fine.  I would avoid putting email 
 engine as a service in a server group if you do this, and also recommend 
 keeping email startup seperate from arsystem startup.
 
 After installing, and before starting it, you need to edit the 
 emaildaemon.properties for each instance to tell it which mailboxes it is 
 responsible for.  I think the installer will ask you for your target arserver 
 name during install, but the emaildaemon.properties also holds this 
 information.
 
 com.remedy.arsys.emaildaemon.Mailboxes=
 If you run multiple email engines for a single server, this setting 
 specifies which mailboxes this email engine should process. The 
 value should contain comma-separated mailbox names. If the 
 value is empty, the email engine processes all of the mailboxes 
 configured for the server. If the value is not empty, the email 
 engine processes the specified mailboxes only.
 
 HTH
 
 Thanks
 
 Randeep
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Grooms, Frederick W 
 frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:
 Just use the one Email Engine and put multiple mailboxes in the Email 
 Configuration form.  On Startup the engine reads the configuration and sets 
 up the necessary threads.
 
 I don't think there is a way for an Email Engine to specify which mailboxes 
 it will process (You can specify which servers, but I don't think you can go 
 any deeper than that so it is an all-mailboxes on the server or none).
 
 Fred
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:11 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes
 
 Right, but my question is more on the how to set it up on the server itself 
 or if I should use multiple servers each with it's own instance of the email 
 engine. That's where I'm fuzzy and the documentation isn't there either.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 -Original Message-
  On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Grooms, Frederick W  wrote:
 
  If you set up separate inbound mailboxes, each mailbox should have its own 
  threads
 
  Fred
 
   Original message 
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:53 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Multiple incoming email boxes
 
  **
  Thanks Shawn. Let me elaborate further on the issue.
  Right now, there's a single email address. This email is receiving both 
  user requests and also what we call bulk requests from event management 
  systems etc... So what is happening now is that the bulk requests which 
  are high in number are being processed ahead of the user requests because 
  of the order that they come in. This is leading to the user experiencing a 
  delay in their ticket being generated. That is the crux of the issue that 
  we are trying to figure out the best approach to. Logically, we thought 
  that sending the bulk requests to a separate email address/mailbox and 
  processing them separately would help. That is why I am trying to set up 
  multiple boxes.
 
   Original message 
  On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Pierson, Shawn  wrote:
  **
  The easiest way to do it is that I have distribution lists with just the 
  inbound Remedy email account, and filter the incoming emails based on 
  those.
 
  For example, I may have remedyservert...@blah.com and 
  remedyserviced...@blah.com as two distribution lists that both contain 
  only the remedym...@blah.com account.  When an email to either of those 
  are sent in (where