Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

2011-10-24 Thread strauss
Almost everything you need to know is in the 248 pg document titled:

BMC Remedy IT Service Management Suite
Version 7.6.04
October 14, 2011
Announcing Service Pack 2 (product version 7.6.04.02)

...downloaded as BMC Remedy ITSM Suite 7.6.04 SP2 Technical Bulletin.pdf with 
document id *219090*

It has some/all/more than all of the individual product Technical Bulletins.  
The doc you are looking at is the updated version of the original upgrade 
procedures for 7.6.04.x from any previous version.

I have already identified a number of issues with the 7.6.04.02 installers, 
primarily Atrium and ITSM (of course), that require manual intervention before 
the SP2 installation will succeed.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing  IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

**
Am I missing something?  Is there a simple document that lists the steps 
require to upgrade from the 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2 version?


BMC Remedy IT Service Management
Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade
Procedures and Guidelines
White Paper

Ok, I'm reading this to see how complicated it will be to upgrade from SP1 to 
SP 2.

The document mentions all kinds of version that have nothing to do with SP1.

In their Staging Server Setup chart/table document they have: (p20)

This may require multiple downloads per product. For example, to upgrade to 
BMC Remedy
ITSM Suite 7.03 Patch 009, you also need to download 7.03, 7.03 Patch 007, and 
7.03 Patch 009.
Version and product information can be found in the Shared Application 
Properties form.


What does this have to do with Upgrading ITSM 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2??? Or even 
7.6.04 to SP2

Do I really need a staging server that is the same quality as my prod server?  
Wasn't the new and improved version supposed to make upgrades easier?

In table C-1  Table C-1: System objects that may be overwritten during an 
upgrade it does not list any of the ITSM application specific definitions.  
Does that mean they are safe?

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days when 
I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my patch was 
done!



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Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

2011-10-24 Thread patrick zandi
ROFL   : They also mentioned the upcoming, just push a button and walk
away.. come back later and it is all done..
That sounds a little scary..   Trust me... Trust me.. Loook into my eyes...
and Trust me.
Ahhh... I trust you... I will trust you... alll is fine I am happy.
it works...

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days
when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my
patch was done!

Hurry and Wait Clarie... Hurry and wait !  We need the year of the
administrator/developer to come back...
I remember that year..


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Sanford, Claire 
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:

 **
  Am I missing something?  Is there a simple document that lists the steps
 require to upgrade from the 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2 version?


 BMC Remedy IT Service Management
 Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade
 Procedures and Guidelines
 White Paper

 Ok, I'm reading this to see how complicated it will be to upgrade from SP1
 to SP 2.

 The document mentions all kinds of version that have nothing to do with
 SP1.

 In their Staging Server Setup chart/table document they have: (p20)

 ***This may require multiple downloads per product. For example, to
 upgrade to BMC Remedy*
 *ITSM Suite 7.03 Patch 009, you also need to download 7.03, 7.03 Patch
 007, and 7.03 Patch 009.*
 *Version and product information can be found in the Shared Application
 Properties form.***


 What does this have to do with Upgrading ITSM 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2??? Or even
 7.6.04 to SP2

 Do I really need a staging server that is the same quality as my prod
 server?  Wasn't the new and improved version supposed to make upgrades
 easier?

 In table C-1 * **Table C-1: System objects that may be overwritten during
 an upgrade** *it does not list any of the ITSM application specific
 definitions.  Does that mean they are safe?

 The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days
 when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my
 patch was done!



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Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

2011-10-24 Thread Easter, David
Just to clarify, if you've already gone through the process of implementing 
overlays you would not have to go through it again.   So if you are on ITSM 
Suite 7.6.04 SP1 with overlays in place, just upgrade to SP2.  You do not need 
a staging server, need to run BPCU again, etc.

Once overlays are in place, all your customizations (extensions and 
modifications) will be identified and preserved as you upgrade to future 
versions.  This is what will make the upgrade process much simpler moving 
forward.

If you have not yet implemented overlays, you will need to follow the steps in 
the white paper and installation instructions - but just one time... not each 
time you upgrade.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:21 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

** ROFL   : They also mentioned the upcoming, just push a button and walk 
away.. come back later and it is all done..
That sounds a little scary..   Trust me... Trust me.. Loook into my eyes... and 
Trust me.
Ahhh... I trust you... I will trust you... alll is fine I am happy. it 
works...

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days 
when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my patch 
was done!

Hurry and Wait Clarie... Hurry and wait !  We need the year of the 
administrator/developer to come back...
I remember that year..

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Sanford, Claire 
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.orgmailto:claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org 
wrote:
**
Am I missing something?  Is there a simple document that lists the steps 
require to upgrade from the 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2 version?


BMC Remedy IT Service Management
Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade
Procedures and Guidelines
White Paper

Ok, I'm reading this to see how complicated it will be to upgrade from SP1 to 
SP 2.

The document mentions all kinds of version that have nothing to do with SP1.

In their Staging Server Setup chart/table document they have: (p20)

This may require multiple downloads per product. For example, to upgrade to 
BMC Remedy
ITSM Suite 7.03 Patch 009, you also need to download 7.03, 7.03 Patch 007, and 
7.03 Patch 009.
Version and product information can be found in the Shared Application 
Properties form.


What does this have to do with Upgrading ITSM 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2??? Or even 
7.6.04 to SP2

Do I really need a staging server that is the same quality as my prod server?  
Wasn't the new and improved version supposed to make upgrades easier?

In table C-1  Table C-1: System objects that may be overwritten during an 
upgrade it does not list any of the ITSM application specific definitions.  
Does that mean they are safe?

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days when 
I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my patch was 
done!



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Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

2011-10-24 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
Really, BMC ought to have dedicated psychics standing by on their upgrade 
hotline.

Jennifer Meyer

P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, my name really is Jennifer Meyer.  My 
maiden name was Jennifer Spaeth.  While in elementary school, I went by my 
step-father's last name, which is Schick, so references to my maiden name 
don't surface in public records until 1988 or so, and references to my current 
last name don't surface until 2003.  But the internet didn't exist in any 
useable form until 1998, so don't bother checking.  And if you google Jennifer 
Meyer, you'll just find Tobey McGuire's wife.

And if anyone steals my identity, I'm just going to kill myself, because 
changing my name is just too freaking hard at 40.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:38 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

**
Just to clarify, if you've already gone through the process of implementing 
overlays you would not have to go through it again.   So if you are on ITSM 
Suite 7.6.04 SP1 with overlays in place, just upgrade to SP2.  You do not need 
a staging server, need to run BPCU again, etc.

Once overlays are in place, all your customizations (extensions and 
modifications) will be identified and preserved as you upgrade to future 
versions.  This is what will make the upgrade process much simpler moving 
forward.

If you have not yet implemented overlays, you will need to follow the steps in 
the white paper and installation instructions - but just one time... not each 
time you upgrade.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:21 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

** ROFL   : They also mentioned the upcoming, just push a button and walk 
away.. come back later and it is all done..
That sounds a little scary..   Trust me... Trust me.. Loook into my eyes... and 
Trust me.
Ahhh... I trust you... I will trust you... alll is fine I am happy. it 
works...

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days 
when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my patch 
was done!

Hurry and Wait Clarie... Hurry and wait !  We need the year of the 
administrator/developer to come back...
I remember that year..
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Sanford, Claire 
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.orgmailto:claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org 
wrote:
**
Am I missing something?  Is there a simple document that lists the steps 
require to upgrade from the 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2 version?


BMC Remedy IT Service Management
Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade
Procedures and Guidelines
White Paper

Ok, I'm reading this to see how complicated it will be to upgrade from SP1 to 
SP 2.

The document mentions all kinds of version that have nothing to do with SP1.

In their Staging Server Setup chart/table document they have: (p20)

This may require multiple downloads per product. For example, to upgrade to 
BMC Remedy
ITSM Suite 7.03 Patch 009, you also need to download 7.03, 7.03 Patch 007, and 
7.03 Patch 009.
Version and product information can be found in the Shared Application 
Properties form.


What does this have to do with Upgrading ITSM 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2??? Or even 
7.6.04 to SP2

Do I really need a staging server that is the same quality as my prod server?  
Wasn't the new and improved version supposed to make upgrades easier?

In table C-1  Table C-1: System objects that may be overwritten during an 
upgrade it does not list any of the ITSM application specific definitions.  
Does that mean they are safe?

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days when 
I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my patch was 
done!



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Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

2011-10-24 Thread Boyd, Rebecca
They do. It's a 900 number.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Meyer, Jennifer L jennifer.me...@nc.govwrote:

 **

 Really, BMC ought to have dedicated psychics standing by on their upgrade
 hotline.



 Jennifer Meyer



 P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, my name really is Jennifer Meyer.
 My maiden name was Jennifer Spaeth.  While in elementary school, I went by
 my step-father’s last name, which is “Schick,” so references to my maiden
 name don’t surface in public records until 1988 or so, and references to my
 current last name don’t surface until 2003.  But the internet didn’t exist
 in any useable form until 1998, so don’t bother checking.  And if you google
 “Jennifer Meyer,” you’ll just find Tobey McGuire’s wife.



 And if anyone steals my identity, I’m just going to kill myself, because
 changing my name is just too freaking hard at 40.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Easter, David
 *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 1:38 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and
 Guidelines



 **

 Just to clarify, if you’ve already gone through the process of implementing
 overlays you would not have to go through it again.   So if you are on ITSM
 Suite 7.6.04 SP1 with overlays in place, just upgrade to SP2.  You do not
 need a staging server, need to run BPCU again, etc.



 Once overlays are in place, all your customizations (extensions and
 modifications) will be identified and preserved as you upgrade to future
 versions.  This is what will make the upgrade process much simpler moving
 forward.



 If you have not yet implemented overlays, you will need to follow the steps
 in the white paper and installation instructions – but just one time… not
 each time you upgrade.



 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.



 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
 *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 10:21 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and
 Guidelines



 ** ROFL   : They also mentioned the upcoming, just push a button and walk
 away.. come back later and it is all done..
 That sounds a little scary..   Trust me... Trust me.. Loook into my eyes...
 and Trust me.
 Ahhh... I trust you... I will trust you... alll is fine I am happy.
 it works...

 The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old
 days when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and
 my patch was done!

 Hurry and Wait Clarie... Hurry and wait !  We need the year of the
 administrator/developer to come back...
 I remember that year..

 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Sanford, Claire 
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:

 **

 Am I missing something?  Is there a simple document that lists the steps
 require to upgrade from the 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2 version?





 BMC Remedy IT Service Management

 Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade

 Procedures and Guidelines

 White Paper



 Ok, I'm reading this to see how complicated it will be to upgrade from SP1
 to SP 2.



 The document mentions all kinds of version that have nothing to do with
 SP1.



 In their Staging Server Setup chart/table document they have: (p20)



 *This may require multiple downloads per product. For example, to upgrade
 to BMC Remedy*

 *ITSM Suite 7.03 Patch 009, you also need to download 7.03, 7.03 Patch
 007, and 7.03 Patch 009.*

 *Version and product information can be found in the Shared Application
 Properties form.*





 What does this have to do with Upgrading ITSM 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2??? Or even
 7.6.04 to SP2



 Do I really need a staging server that is the same quality as my prod
 server?  Wasn't the new and improved version supposed to make upgrades
 easier?



 In table C-1 * Table C-1: System objects that may be overwritten during
 an upgrade *it does not list any of the ITSM application specific
 definitions.  Does that mean they are safe?



 The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old days
 when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files and my
 patch was done!







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Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and Guidelines

2011-10-24 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
That's Miss Cleo's new job... Call me now!

 

P.S. My real name is Taufique Chowdhury and Tauf is the shortened
version of that name... besides... why the hell would I pick this name
if I wanted to fake it!?

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:47 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and
Guidelines

 

** 

Really, BMC ought to have dedicated psychics standing by on their
upgrade hotline.

 

Jennifer Meyer

 

P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, my name really is Jennifer
Meyer.  My maiden name was Jennifer Spaeth.  While in elementary school,
I went by my step-father's last name, which is Schick, so references
to my maiden name don't surface in public records until 1988 or so, and
references to my current last name don't surface until 2003.  But the
internet didn't exist in any useable form until 1998, so don't bother
checking.  And if you google Jennifer Meyer, you'll just find Tobey
McGuire's wife.

 

And if anyone steals my identity, I'm just going to kill myself, because
changing my name is just too freaking hard at 40.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:38 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and
Guidelines

 

** 

Just to clarify, if you've already gone through the process of
implementing overlays you would not have to go through it again.   So if
you are on ITSM Suite 7.6.04 SP1 with overlays in place, just upgrade to
SP2.  You do not need a staging server, need to run BPCU again, etc.

 

Once overlays are in place, all your customizations (extensions and
modifications) will be identified and preserved as you upgrade to future
versions.  This is what will make the upgrade process much simpler
moving forward.

 

If you have not yet implemented overlays, you will need to follow the
steps in the white paper and installation instructions - but just one
time... not each time you upgrade.

 

-David J. Easter

Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

BMC Software, Inc.

 

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
BMC Software, Inc.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:21 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade Procedures and
Guidelines

 

** ROFL   : They also mentioned the upcoming, just push a button and
walk away.. come back later and it is all done.. 
That sounds a little scary..   Trust me... Trust me.. Loook into my
eyes... and Trust me.
Ahhh... I trust you... I will trust you... alll is fine I am
happy. it works...

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old
days when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files
and my patch was done!

Hurry and Wait Clarie... Hurry and wait !  We need the year of the
administrator/developer to come back... 
I remember that year.. 

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Sanford, Claire
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:

** 

Am I missing something?  Is there a simple document that lists the steps
require to upgrade from the 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2 version?

 

 

BMC Remedy IT Service Management

Suite 7.6.04 Service Pack 2 Upgrade

Procedures and Guidelines

White Paper

 

Ok, I'm reading this to see how complicated it will be to upgrade from
SP1 to SP 2.

 

The document mentions all kinds of version that have nothing to do with
SP1.  

 

In their Staging Server Setup chart/table document they have: (p20)

 

This may require multiple downloads per product. For example, to
upgrade to BMC Remedy

ITSM Suite 7.03 Patch 009, you also need to download 7.03, 7.03 Patch
007, and 7.03 Patch 009.

Version and product information can be found in the Shared Application
Properties form.

 

 

What does this have to do with Upgrading ITSM 7.6.04 SP1 to SP2??? Or
even 7.6.04 to SP2

 

Do I really need a staging server that is the same quality as my prod
server?  Wasn't the new and improved version supposed to make upgrades
easier?

 

In table C-1  Table C-1: System objects that may be overwritten during
an upgrade it does not list any of the ITSM application specific
definitions.  Does that mean they are safe?

 

The more I work with this the more I dislike it.  I miss the good old
days when I could just replace the arserver.exe file and the .dll files
and my patch was done!

 

 

 

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