Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread patrick zandi
Geoff,
he have not seen you in a while...
What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting too.
ensure that it can submit..
after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password is
burnt
put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the Encrypted
hash and put that in the email as the password.
or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..

Seems to work for me..


On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
 send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
 Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
 that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
 licensing.

 What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
 System Server with clear text password?

 --
 -Geoff Endresen
 Amazon.com


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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread Hugo Visser
While that could work, it doesn't seem to be very more secure, as I
can still capture the hashed password and use that to login or send
email requests. In the past one could login with the hashed password
from the usertool, I'm not sure if that still works...lets hope not :)

Hugo

On Nov 8, 2007 5:26 PM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **
 Geoff,
 he have not seen you in a while...
 What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
 Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting too.
 ensure that it can submit..
 after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password is
 burnt
 put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the Encrypted
 hash and put that in the email as the password.
 or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..

 Seems to work for me..




 On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
  send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
  Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
  that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
  licensing.
 
  What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
  System Server with clear text password?
 
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  Amazon.com
 
 
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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread patrick zandi
roger   =8^ o

On 11/8/07, Jarl Grøneng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pat,

 He has been busy drinking beer with me in Vancouver :-)

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 On Nov 8, 2007 5:26 PM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  **
  Geoff,
  he have not seen you in a while...
  What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
  Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting
 too.
  ensure that it can submit..
  after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password is
  burnt
  put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the
 Encrypted
  hash and put that in the email as the password.
  or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..
 
  Seems to work for me..
 
 
 
 
  On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
   send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
   Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
   that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
   licensing.
  
   What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
   System Server with clear text password?
  
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   Amazon.com
  
  
 
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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread Jarl Grøneng
Pat,

He has been busy drinking beer with me in Vancouver :-)

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On Nov 8, 2007 5:26 PM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **
 Geoff,
 he have not seen you in a while...
 What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
 Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting too.
 ensure that it can submit..
 after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password is
 burnt
 put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the Encrypted
 hash and put that in the email as the password.
 or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..

 Seems to work for me..




 On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
  send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
  Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
  that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
  licensing.
 
  What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
  System Server with clear text password?
 
  --
  -Geoff Endresen
  Amazon.com
 
 
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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread patrick zandi
I suppose the official answer is in the manual,  Chapter 3 Page 57 -
Configuring incoming mailbox security.



On 11/8/07, Hugo Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While that could work, it doesn't seem to be very more secure, as I
 can still capture the hashed password and use that to login or send
 email requests. In the past one could login with the hashed password
 from the usertool, I'm not sure if that still works...lets hope not :)

 Hugo

 On Nov 8, 2007 5:26 PM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  **
  Geoff,
  he have not seen you in a while...
  What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
  Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting
 too.
  ensure that it can submit..
  after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password is
  burnt
  put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the
 Encrypted
  hash and put that in the email as the password.
  or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..
 
  Seems to work for me..
 
 
 
 
  On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
   send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
   Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
   that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
   licensing.
  
   What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
   System Server with clear text password?
  
   --
   -Geoff Endresen
   Amazon.com
  
  
 
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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread Jarl Grøneng
I tougth the offical answer was: As designed

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On Nov 8, 2007 7:42 PM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **
 I suppose the official answer is in the manual,  Chapter 3 Page 57 -
 Configuring incoming mailbox security.





 On 11/8/07, Hugo Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  While that could work, it doesn't seem to be very more secure, as I
  can still capture the hashed password and use that to login or send
  email requests. In the past one could login with the hashed password
  from the usertool, I'm not sure if that still works...lets hope not :)
 
  Hugo
 
  On Nov 8, 2007 5:26 PM, patrick zandi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   **
   Geoff,
   he have not seen you in a while...
   What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
   Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting
 too.
   ensure that it can submit..
   after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password is
   burnt
   put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the
 Encrypted
   hash and put that in the email as the password.
   or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..
  
   Seems to work for me..
  
  
  
  
   On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
licensing.
   
What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
System Server with clear text password?
   
--
-Geoff Endresen
Amazon.com
   
   
  
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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread Geoffrey Endresen
Jarl,

Strangely, I remember drinking with some Norwegian.

Was that you Jarl ?!?

-Geoff  8-))

On Nov 8, 2007 9:47 AM, Jarl Grøneng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pat,

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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread Howard Richter
We have a filter that monitors the mail messages form and we look for
the incident number in the subject. Then we create a worknote in the
request, which pushes it to the incident. Then we send an update to
the assignee that we received an update.

At the end we send an email, to the sender that the incident was updated.


howard



On Nov 8, 2007 2:37 PM, Jarl Grøneng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tougth the offical answer was: As designed

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 On Nov 8, 2007 7:42 PM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  **
  I suppose the official answer is in the manual,  Chapter 3 Page 57 -
  Configuring incoming mailbox security.
 
 
 
 
 
  On 11/8/07, Hugo Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   While that could work, it doesn't seem to be very more secure, as I
   can still capture the hashed password and use that to login or send
   email requests. In the past one could login with the hashed password
   from the usertool, I'm not sure if that still works...lets hope not :)
  
   Hugo
  
   On Nov 8, 2007 5:26 PM, patrick zandi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**
Geoff,
he have not seen you in a while...
What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting
  too.
ensure that it can submit..
after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password is
burnt
put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the
  Encrypted
hash and put that in the email as the password.
or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..
   
Seems to work for me..
   
   
   
   
On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
 send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
 Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
 that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
 licensing.

 What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
 System Server with clear text password?

 --
 -Geoff Endresen
 Amazon.com


   
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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread Geoffrey Endresen
Howard,

Thanks. But, I had no problem building the filter and pushing to the ticket.
The Last-Modified user is Remedy Application Service in a diary field.

-Geoff

On Nov 8, 2007 12:06 PM, Howard Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have a filter that monitors the mail messages form and we look for
 the incident number in the subject. Then we create a worknote in the
 request, which pushes it to the incident. Then we send an update to
 the assignee that we received an update.

 At the end we send an email, to the sender that the incident was updated.


 howard




 On Nov 8, 2007 2:37 PM, Jarl Grøneng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tougth the offical answer was: As designed
 
  --
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  On Nov 8, 2007 7:42 PM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   **
   I suppose the official answer is in the manual,  Chapter 3 Page 57 -
   Configuring incoming mailbox security.
  
  
  
  
  
   On 11/8/07, Hugo Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While that could work, it doesn't seem to be very more secure, as I
can still capture the hashed password and use that to login or send
email requests. In the past one could login with the hashed password
from the usertool, I'm not sure if that still works...lets hope not :)
   
Hugo
   
On Nov 8, 2007 5:26 PM, patrick zandi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **
 Geoff,
 he have not seen you in a while...
 What I did was a little sneeky, but it works..
 Create an account that only hase access to the form it is submitting
   too.
 ensure that it can submit..
 after the account is made-- let say it is toast --- and the password 
 is
 burnt
 put burnt into the userform save it.. go to the database get the
   Encrypted
 hash and put that in the email as the password.
 or you could use the ar.conf to do the same thing..

 Seems to work for me..




 On 11/7/07, Geoffrey Endresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  Sorry, I just haven't spent enough time with this one. I'm trying to
  send an email to the AR System server to update a ticket.
  Sure, I can just create a filter on the AR System Email Message form
  that pushes the data to another form, but I assume that breaks
  licensing.
 
  What am I missing? People cannot really be sending emails to the AR
  System Server with clear text password?
 
  --
  -Geoff Endresen
  Amazon.com
 
 

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Re: Updating tickets via email engine w/o clear text password

2007-11-08 Thread Geoffrey Endresen
Zandi,

Are you talking about these settings?

I have these settings:
- Use Security Key: No
- Use Suppied User Informaiton: Yes
- Use email from address: Yes

I guess my problem is that I didn't use the crazy format of Modify
Emails with embedded field ids.
I simply wanted to update the ticket with whatever correspondence was returned.

On Nov 8, 2007 10:42 AM, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **
 I suppose the official answer is in the manual,  Chapter 3 Page 57 -
 Configuring incoming mailbox security.



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