Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-07 Thread Gary Dries
All
I was getting same error in my arerror.log that Victor reported.
while working with BMC support on some issue I had with the ar.cfg
files in a 7.6.04 server group installation I am supporting, BMC had
me change the Filter-Max-Total: in both ar.cfg files

from
Filter-Max-Total: 999
Filter-Max-Stack: 1
to
Filter-Max-Total: 50
Filter-Max-Stack: 1

I made this change last Tuesday the 4th and have not seen the error since.

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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-07 Thread Patrick Zandi
Go to performance white paper in knowledge base at BMC it will help you tune 

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On Dec 7, 2012, at 15:03, Gary Dries gary.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 All
 I was getting same error in my arerror.log that Victor reported.
 while working with BMC support on some issue I had with the ar.cfg
 files in a 7.6.04 server group installation I am supporting, BMC had
 me change the Filter-Max-Total: in both ar.cfg files
 
 from
 Filter-Max-Total: 999
 Filter-Max-Stack: 1
 to
 Filter-Max-Total: 50
 Filter-Max-Stack: 1
 
 I made this change last Tuesday the 4th and have not seen the error since.
 
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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-03 Thread Rod Harris
Hi Jason and Victor and others,

One thing that I noticed about V8 is that I think the default for the
maximum stack of filters is still a very high 10,000. The trouble with
having such a high limit is that you can have your system just run out of
resources eg. stack space, before that limit is reached. I would have
thought a limit to nested filters at around 25 or 50 should be plenty. If
you have it set to this limit and you find that a perfectly well behaved
process is still hitting the limit I'd be surprised, and you could just up
the limit. I suspect in the examples here there is a bug or some bad data
that is causing the system to be a lot more recursive than was intended.
You would probably see a bit of a spike on resources such as cpu and memory
if a process does loop.

In the old days we didn't have a filter stack limit, just a total number of
filters. The trouble with that is that with the large number of filters
that something like HPD:Help Desk had you could hit pretty high limits in
just normal use. Alternatively you could have a tightly recursive set of
filters that used up the stack without hitting the filter limit.

If you can replicate the problem it would be a good idea to have server
logging on to see what is happening. You may not see the log immediately
prior to the system crash but you will definitely be able to see a trend
before hand. Your log will be pretty full if you are running out of stack.
If you have a low filter stack limit then you will see an error thrown and
won't have a crash to worry about.

Rod




On 3 December 2012 15:06, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Not that I know of.  I didn't notice the error right when it happened.
  It occurred about 40 minutes after I released the system to users (all two
 at that time of morning).  I was done with everything on the server and
 finishing up some documentation so I don't know what the resources looked
 like a that moment.

 Now that I had a change to look again I was wrong about the progression
 being the same.  It was stack limit - DB connection error (different than
 Victor's DB update timeout) - AR terminated.

 Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012  390635 : Approaching physical stack limit. (
 ARERR 8749)
 Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012  390635 : Unable to connect to the SQL database.
 (ARERR 551)
 Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012 Stop server
 Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012: AR System server terminated — fatal error
 occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE  21)
 Wed Nov 28 04:23:20 2012 : Action Request System(R) Server x64 Version
 7.6.04 SP4 201209051922
 (c) Copyright 1991-2011 BMC Software, Inc.

 I don't want to steal the thread about his DMT issue.  It seemed odd this
 being the first time I have seen the physical stack limit error and Victor
 happens to mention days later.

 Jason



 On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Jason, was there a spike in arserver process memory usage?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 I saw the Approaching physical stack limit error for the first time
 Tuesday night after upgrading production from 7.5 to 7.6.04 64-bit. It was
 the same progression you observed, DB timeout - stack limit - AR
 terminated.  I have only seen it once so far.

 Jason
 On Dec 2, 2012 1:30 AM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adhwari,

 Unfortunately I didn't get past creating the first job. After logging
 back in
 I could not find the job created in job console.

 Thanks for your time.

 Regards,
 Victor.

 On Sunday 02 Dec 2012 08:06:20 Kulkarni, Adhwari wrote:
  Hi Victor,
  This kind of error is usually observed when you are creating the first
 job
  using the 'job console'. That is the time when the UDM engine builds
 the
  complete dependency data required for UDM to work which takes a lot of
  resources. Do you see the same error while creating all the jobs?
  Also, can you please check if the job is created by logging back in.
 
  Regards,
  Adhwari
 
 


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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-03 Thread Victor
Thank you all for your inputs.

I set the filter stack limit to 100 and tried to create the job again.
The process aborted with Too many levels in filter processing (ARERR 299)
ARServer process did not crash nor there was any spike in memory or CPU usage.
The arfilter.log however displayed a series of errors:

FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast   Client-RPC: 
390620USER: supervic  Overlay 
Group: 1   Error while performing filter action: Error 299
FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast   Client-RPC: 
390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
Group: 1   Filter DMT:CopyStagingFormsToSequencingEngine: No 
enabled error handler
FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast   Client-RPC: 
390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
Group: 1  /* Pn gru 03 2012 20:41:59.6370 */ End of filter 
processing (phase 2) -- Operation - SET on SHR:SchemaNames - 0021536
FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast   Client-RPC: 
390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
Group: 1  4: Push Fields - 
DMT:CopyStagingFormsToSequencingEngine (ARERR 299)
FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast   Client-RPC: 
390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
Group: 1   Error while performing filter action: Error 299
.
.
.
 
ARError.log displayed:
Mon Dec 03 20:41:59 2012  390620 : Too many levels in filter processing (ARERR 
299)
Mon Dec 03 20:41:59 2012 DMT:VIS:SkipSequenceInit : 
DMT:SYS:SequencingEngine

Does anyone have a clue?

Sorry for the long post.

Victor.
On Monday 03 Dec 2012 09:16:22 Rod Harris wrote:
 Hi Jason and Victor and others,
 
 One thing that I noticed about V8 is that I think the default for the
 maximum stack of filters is still a very high 10,000. The trouble with
 having such a high limit is that you can have your system just run out of
 resources eg. stack space, before that limit is reached. I would have
 thought a limit to nested filters at around 25 or 50 should be plenty. If
 you have it set to this limit and you find that a perfectly well behaved
 process is still hitting the limit I'd be surprised, and you could just up
 the limit. I suspect in the examples here there is a bug or some bad data
 that is causing the system to be a lot more recursive than was intended.
 You would probably see a bit of a spike on resources such as cpu and memory
 if a process does loop.
 
 In the old days we didn't have a filter stack limit, just a total number of
 filters. The trouble with that is that with the large number of filters
 that something like HPD:Help Desk had you could hit pretty high limits in
 just normal use. Alternatively you could have a tightly recursive set of
 filters that used up the stack without hitting the filter limit.
 
 If you can replicate the problem it would be a good idea to have server
 logging on to see what is happening. You may not see the log immediately
 prior to the system crash but you will definitely be able to see a trend
 before hand. Your log will be pretty full if you are running out of stack.
 If you have a low filter stack limit then you will see an error thrown and
 won't have a crash to worry about.
 
 Rod
 
 On 3 December 2012 15:06, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
  ** Not that I know of.  I didn't notice the error right when it happened.
  
   It occurred about 40 minutes after I released the system to users (all
   two
  
  at that time of morning).  I was done with everything on the server and
  finishing up some documentation so I don't know what the resources looked
  like a that moment.
  
  Now that I had a change to look again I was wrong about the progression
  being the same.  It was stack limit - DB connection error (different
  than Victor's DB update timeout) - AR terminated.
  
  Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012  390635 : Approaching physical stack limit. (
  ARERR 8749)
  Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012  390635 : Unable to connect to the SQL database.
  (ARERR 551)
  Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012 Stop server
  Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012: AR System server terminated — fatal error
  occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE  21)
  Wed Nov 28 04:23:20 2012 : Action Request System(R) Server x64 Version
  7.6.04 SP4 201209051922
  (c) Copyright 1991-2011 BMC Software, Inc.
  
  I don't want to steal the thread about his DMT issue.  It seemed odd this
  being the first time I have seen the physical stack limit error and
  Victor happens to mention days later.
  
  Jason
  
  On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:
  **
  Jason, was there a spike in arserver process memory usage?
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  **
  
  I saw the Approaching physical stack limit error for the first 

Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-03 Thread Jason Miller
Looking at our ITSM 7.6.04 install the following are set and I am pretty
these are still the default:
Maximum Filters for an Operation: 9
Maximum Stack of Filter: 1

I wonder how appropriate these settings are for a 32-bit AR Server though?
 I am figuring a 64-bit system with 6gb and 2gb additional per large app as
the sizing documentation suggests (more or less what the documentation
says, don't quote me on that) can handle this type of load.  32-bit, well I
think certain things might start to have issues.

Jason


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you all for your inputs.

 I set the filter stack limit to 100 and tried to create the job again.
 The process aborted with Too many levels in filter processing (ARERR 299)
 ARServer process did not crash nor there was any spike in memory or CPU
 usage.
 The arfilter.log however displayed a series of errors:

 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay
 Group: 1   Error while performing filter action: Error 299
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1   Filter DMT:CopyStagingFormsToSequencingEngine: No
 enabled error handler
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1  /* Pn gru 03 2012 20:41:59.6370 */ End of filter
 processing (phase 2) -- Operation - SET on SHR:SchemaNames -
 0021536
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1  4: Push Fields -
 DMT:CopyStagingFormsToSequencingEngine (ARERR 299)
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1   Error while performing filter action: Error 299
 .
 .
 .

 ARError.log displayed:
 Mon Dec 03 20:41:59 2012  390620 : Too many levels in filter processing
 (ARERR
 299)
 Mon Dec 03 20:41:59 2012 DMT:VIS:SkipSequenceInit :
 DMT:SYS:SequencingEngine

 Does anyone have a clue?

 Sorry for the long post.

 Victor.
 On Monday 03 Dec 2012 09:16:22 Rod Harris wrote:
  Hi Jason and Victor and others,
 
  One thing that I noticed about V8 is that I think the default for the
  maximum stack of filters is still a very high 10,000. The trouble with
  having such a high limit is that you can have your system just run out of
  resources eg. stack space, before that limit is reached. I would have
  thought a limit to nested filters at around 25 or 50 should be plenty. If
  you have it set to this limit and you find that a perfectly well behaved
  process is still hitting the limit I'd be surprised, and you could just
 up
  the limit. I suspect in the examples here there is a bug or some bad data
  that is causing the system to be a lot more recursive than was intended.
  You would probably see a bit of a spike on resources such as cpu and
 memory
  if a process does loop.
 
  In the old days we didn't have a filter stack limit, just a total number
 of
  filters. The trouble with that is that with the large number of filters
  that something like HPD:Help Desk had you could hit pretty high limits in
  just normal use. Alternatively you could have a tightly recursive set of
  filters that used up the stack without hitting the filter limit.
 
  If you can replicate the problem it would be a good idea to have server
  logging on to see what is happening. You may not see the log immediately
  prior to the system crash but you will definitely be able to see a trend
  before hand. Your log will be pretty full if you are running out of
 stack.
  If you have a low filter stack limit then you will see an error thrown
 and
  won't have a crash to worry about.
 
  Rod
 
  On 3 December 2012 15:06, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
   ** Not that I know of.  I didn't notice the error right when it
 happened.
  
It occurred about 40 minutes after I released the system to users (all
two
  
   at that time of morning).  I was done with everything on the server and
   finishing up some documentation so I don't know what the resources
 looked
   like a that moment.
  
   Now that I had a change to look again I was wrong about the progression
   being the same.  It was stack limit - DB connection error (different
   than Victor's DB update timeout) - AR terminated.
  
   Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012 390635 : Approaching physical stack limit. (
   ARERR 8749)
   Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012  390635 : Unable to connect to the SQL
 database.
   (ARERR 551)
   Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012 Stop server
   Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012: AR System server terminated — fatal error
   occurred in ARSERVER 

Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-03 Thread Rod Harris
Hi Jason,
Well the 1 is not appropriate for Victor. Whatever process he has
running looks like it would have chewed up all available memory before
crashing the server. I'd say that the 100 is probably fine - at least now
he has trapped what I think is likely to be an error before crashing the
complete ARS process.

The snippet of log that Victor has supplied is not really enough to get an
understanding of the issue beyond the fact that the DMT job either uses
some very mean recursion (100 is huge) or it is failing to reach it's exit
condition. I suspect the latter. To really see the pattern the best bit of
the log would be the start of the loop, so where the filter stack is 1, 2,
3 etc. The log has the stack displayed in it nicely in recent ARS versions.
It could be that there is some unexpected data or a bug or both. I'm not
really familiar with the DM job console myself as yet. Maybe others on the
list can assist when they see the log.

Rod




On 4 December 2012 05:57, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Looking at our ITSM 7.6.04 install the following are set and I am
 pretty these are still the default:
 Maximum Filters for an Operation: 9
 Maximum Stack of Filter: 1

 I wonder how appropriate these settings are for a 32-bit AR Server though?
  I am figuring a 64-bit system with 6gb and 2gb additional per large app as
 the sizing documentation suggests (more or less what the documentation
 says, don't quote me on that) can handle this type of load.  32-bit, well I
 think certain things might start to have issues.

 Jason


 On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you all for your inputs.

 I set the filter stack limit to 100 and tried to create the job again.
 The process aborted with Too many levels in filter processing (ARERR
 299)
 ARServer process did not crash nor there was any spike in memory or CPU
 usage.
 The arfilter.log however displayed a series of errors:

 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay
 Group: 1   Error while performing filter action: Error 299
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1   Filter DMT:CopyStagingFormsToSequencingEngine:
 No
 enabled error handler
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1  /* Pn gru 03 2012 20:41:59.6370 */ End of filter
 processing (phase 2) -- Operation - SET on SHR:SchemaNames -
 0021536
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1  4: Push Fields -
 DMT:CopyStagingFormsToSequencingEngine (ARERR 299)
 FLTR TID: 006120 RPC ID: 017180 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC:
 390620USER: supervic  Overlay-
 Group: 1   Error while performing filter action: Error 299
 .
 .
 .

 ARError.log displayed:
 Mon Dec 03 20:41:59 2012  390620 : Too many levels in filter processing
 (ARERR
 299)
 Mon Dec 03 20:41:59 2012 DMT:VIS:SkipSequenceInit :
 DMT:SYS:SequencingEngine

 Does anyone have a clue?

 Sorry for the long post.

 Victor.
 On Monday 03 Dec 2012 09:16:22 Rod Harris wrote:
  Hi Jason and Victor and others,
 
  One thing that I noticed about V8 is that I think the default for the
  maximum stack of filters is still a very high 10,000. The trouble with
  having such a high limit is that you can have your system just run out
 of
  resources eg. stack space, before that limit is reached. I would have
  thought a limit to nested filters at around 25 or 50 should be plenty.
 If
  you have it set to this limit and you find that a perfectly well behaved
  process is still hitting the limit I'd be surprised, and you could just
 up
  the limit. I suspect in the examples here there is a bug or some bad
 data
  that is causing the system to be a lot more recursive than was intended.
  You would probably see a bit of a spike on resources such as cpu and
 memory
  if a process does loop.
 
  In the old days we didn't have a filter stack limit, just a total
 number of
  filters. The trouble with that is that with the large number of filters
  that something like HPD:Help Desk had you could hit pretty high limits
 in
  just normal use. Alternatively you could have a tightly recursive set of
  filters that used up the stack without hitting the filter limit.
 
  If you can replicate the problem it would be a good idea to have server
  logging on to see what is happening. You may not see the log immediately
  prior to the system crash but you will definitely be able to see a trend
  before hand. Your log will be pretty full if you are running out of
 stack.
  If you 

Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-02 Thread Victor
Hi Adhwari,

Unfortunately I didn't get past creating the first job. After logging back in 
I could not find the job created in job console.

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Victor.

On Sunday 02 Dec 2012 08:06:20 Kulkarni, Adhwari wrote:
 Hi Victor,
 This kind of error is usually observed when you are creating the first job
 using the 'job console'. That is the time when the UDM engine builds the
 complete dependency data required for UDM to work which takes a lot of
 resources. Do you see the same error while creating all the jobs?
 Also, can you please check if the job is created by logging back in.
 
 Regards,
 Adhwari
 
 

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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-02 Thread Jason Miller
I saw the Approaching physical stack limit error for the first time
Tuesday night after upgrading production from 7.5 to 7.6.04 64-bit. It was
the same progression you observed, DB timeout - stack limit - AR
terminated.  I have only seen it once so far.

Jason
On Dec 2, 2012 1:30 AM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adhwari,

 Unfortunately I didn't get past creating the first job. After logging back
 in
 I could not find the job created in job console.

 Thanks for your time.

 Regards,
 Victor.

 On Sunday 02 Dec 2012 08:06:20 Kulkarni, Adhwari wrote:
  Hi Victor,
  This kind of error is usually observed when you are creating the first
 job
  using the 'job console'. That is the time when the UDM engine builds the
  complete dependency data required for UDM to work which takes a lot of
  resources. Do you see the same error while creating all the jobs?
  Also, can you please check if the job is created by logging back in.
 
  Regards,
  Adhwari
 
 


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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-02 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Jason, was there a spike in arserver process memory usage?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

**

I saw the Approaching physical stack limit error for the first time
Tuesday night after upgrading production from 7.5 to 7.6.04 64-bit. It was
the same progression you observed, DB timeout - stack limit - AR
terminated.  I have only seen it once so far.

Jason
On Dec 2, 2012 1:30 AM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adhwari,

 Unfortunately I didn't get past creating the first job. After logging back
 in
 I could not find the job created in job console.

 Thanks for your time.

 Regards,
 Victor.

 On Sunday 02 Dec 2012 08:06:20 Kulkarni, Adhwari wrote:
  Hi Victor,
  This kind of error is usually observed when you are creating the first
 job
  using the 'job console'. That is the time when the UDM engine builds the
  complete dependency data required for UDM to work which takes a lot of
  resources. Do you see the same error while creating all the jobs?
  Also, can you please check if the job is created by logging back in.
 
  Regards,
  Adhwari
 
 


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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-02 Thread vaibhav wadekar
Hello Victor,

Start your ARServer with -k Option and include 8K stack limit.

Regards/Vaibhav



On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Jason, was there a spike in arserver process memory usage?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 I saw the Approaching physical stack limit error for the first time
 Tuesday night after upgrading production from 7.5 to 7.6.04 64-bit. It was
 the same progression you observed, DB timeout - stack limit - AR
 terminated.  I have only seen it once so far.

 Jason
 On Dec 2, 2012 1:30 AM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adhwari,

 Unfortunately I didn't get past creating the first job. After logging
 back in
 I could not find the job created in job console.

 Thanks for your time.

 Regards,
 Victor.

 On Sunday 02 Dec 2012 08:06:20 Kulkarni, Adhwari wrote:
  Hi Victor,
  This kind of error is usually observed when you are creating the first
 job
  using the 'job console'. That is the time when the UDM engine builds the
  complete dependency data required for UDM to work which takes a lot of
  resources. Do you see the same error while creating all the jobs?
  Also, can you please check if the job is created by logging back in.
 
  Regards,
  Adhwari
 
 


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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-02 Thread Jason Miller
Not that I know of.  I didn't notice the error right when it happened.  It
occurred about 40 minutes after I released the system to users (all two at
that time of morning).  I was done with everything on the server and
finishing up some documentation so I don't know what the resources looked
like a that moment.

Now that I had a change to look again I was wrong about the progression
being the same.  It was stack limit - DB connection error (different than
Victor's DB update timeout) - AR terminated.

Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012  390635 : Approaching physical stack limit. (ARERR8749)
Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012  390635 : Unable to connect to the SQL database. (
ARERR 551)
Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012 Stop server
Wed Nov 28 04:23:19 2012: AR System server terminated — fatal error
occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE  21)
Wed Nov 28 04:23:20 2012 : Action Request System(R) Server x64 Version
7.6.04 SP4 201209051922
(c) Copyright 1991-2011 BMC Software, Inc.

I don't want to steal the thread about his DMT issue.  It seemed odd this
being the first time I have seen the physical stack limit error and Victor
happens to mention days later.

Jason



On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Jason, was there a spike in arserver process memory usage?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 I saw the Approaching physical stack limit error for the first time
 Tuesday night after upgrading production from 7.5 to 7.6.04 64-bit. It was
 the same progression you observed, DB timeout - stack limit - AR
 terminated.  I have only seen it once so far.

 Jason
 On Dec 2, 2012 1:30 AM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adhwari,

 Unfortunately I didn't get past creating the first job. After logging
 back in
 I could not find the job created in job console.

 Thanks for your time.

 Regards,
 Victor.

 On Sunday 02 Dec 2012 08:06:20 Kulkarni, Adhwari wrote:
  Hi Victor,
  This kind of error is usually observed when you are creating the first
 job
  using the 'job console'. That is the time when the UDM engine builds the
  complete dependency data required for UDM to work which takes a lot of
  resources. Do you see the same error while creating all the jobs?
  Also, can you please check if the job is created by logging back in.
 
  Regards,
  Adhwari
 
 


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Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-01 Thread Victor
Hello Listers,

When creating a job from the Data Management Job Console the process timed-out 
with Timeout during database update -- the operation has been accepted by the 
server and will usually complete successfully : ONC/RPC call timed out (ARERR 
92) .  The arerror.log  showed the following :
Sat Dec 01 18:42:26 2012  390620 : Approaching physical stack limit. (ARERR 
8749)
Sat Dec 01 18:42:26 2012  390620 : AR System server terminated - fatal error 
occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE 21)

This is a fresh installation for developing purposes - AR System 8/ITSM 
8.0.0.0 /SQL Server 2003 32-bit / Windows 2003 Enterprise 32 bit /Tomcat 6

Has anyone seen this before? Can someone point me into the right direction?

Thanks and regards,

Victor

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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-01 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Victor,
I think you should really consider going to 64 bit for this fresh
installation. Arserver processes have been chewing up more and more
memory every version and with version 8, I don't see it changing.
Since you have the full ITSM stack, you are probably getting this
error because of your 32 bit limitation. When you get this error, how
much memory is the arserver process taking up? How about arplugin?
These 2 processes and then arrecond are going to end up eating up your
memory and subsequently crash the server.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Listers,

 When creating a job from the Data Management Job Console the process timed-out
 with Timeout during database update -- the operation has been accepted by the
 server and will usually complete successfully : ONC/RPC call timed out (ARERR
 92) .  The arerror.log  showed the following :
 Sat Dec 01 18:42:26 2012  390620 : Approaching physical stack limit. (ARERR
 8749)
 Sat Dec 01 18:42:26 2012  390620 : AR System server terminated - fatal error
 occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE 21)

 This is a fresh installation for developing purposes - AR System 8/ITSM
 8.0.0.0 /SQL Server 2003 32-bit / Windows 2003 Enterprise 32 bit /Tomcat 6

 Has anyone seen this before? Can someone point me into the right direction?

 Thanks and regards,

 Victor

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Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

2012-12-01 Thread Kulkarni, Adhwari
Hi Victor,
This kind of error is usually observed when you are creating the first job 
using the 'job console'. That is the time when the UDM engine builds the 
complete dependency data required for UDM to work which takes a lot of 
resources.
Do you see the same error while creating all the jobs?
Also, can you please check if the job is created by logging back in. 

Regards,
Adhwari


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Sunday, 02 December, 2012 6:25 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Stack limit error when creating job with DMT

Victor,
I think you should really consider going to 64 bit for this fresh installation. 
Arserver processes have been chewing up more and more memory every version and 
with version 8, I don't see it changing.
Since you have the full ITSM stack, you are probably getting this error because 
of your 32 bit limitation. When you get this error, how much memory is the 
arserver process taking up? How about arplugin?
These 2 processes and then arrecond are going to end up eating up your memory 
and subsequently crash the server.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Victor vico...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Listers,

 When creating a job from the Data Management Job Console the process 
 timed-out with Timeout during database update -- the operation has 
 been accepted by the server and will usually complete successfully : 
 ONC/RPC call timed out (ARERR
 92) .  The arerror.log  showed the following :
 Sat Dec 01 18:42:26 2012  390620 : Approaching physical stack limit. 
 (ARERR
 8749)
 Sat Dec 01 18:42:26 2012  390620 : AR System server terminated - fatal 
 error occurred in ARSERVER (ARNOTE 21)

 This is a fresh installation for developing purposes - AR System 
 8/ITSM
 8.0.0.0 /SQL Server 2003 32-bit / Windows 2003 Enterprise 32 bit 
 /Tomcat 6

 Has anyone seen this before? Can someone point me into the right direction?

 Thanks and regards,

 Victor

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