[Assam] Bordoichila 2011

2011-04-17 Thread Buljit Buragohain
Please find here the second issue of Bordoichila as published on April 15, 2011.
 
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vpid=explorerchrome=truesrcid=0B3XTznM6gJhvMDFmZjEzM2EtYTU0MS00Yjk5LTg3ZDctMWE5Njc1ZTU2Mjgxhl=en
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[Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Chan Mahanta

Prashant Bhushan is a credible person on these issues. But will the 'Jan Lokpal 
' thing work? What do you think?

I don't think it will. It may have some value temporarily. Something a newly 
independent state may employ to get
its bearing, like I proposed for an independent Assam. But until such time 
India reforms and fixes its broken,
dysfunctional system, it will be about as effective as all the other, much 
hyped schemes, programs, laws 
acronyms and whatchmacallits -- like for example Panchayats, Fast Track Courts, 
RTI, CVC and many others.

Why ?

For the simple reason that the dysfunctional system will continue to keep 
producing the corrupt and the inept.
How will the JL, which is designed only to look after the CENTER - won't have 
anything to do with the states,
keep the floodgates closed and for how long? That raises another assamnet 
specific question to this 'odhom':
I was under the impression that it is Assam, and a few other states are the 
truly corrupt entities, not the Center,
not the 'prospering' states and so forth. Where is the disconnect?

The notion is akin to treating Typhoid with fever control medication. 

What is amazing is that no one NO ONE, is talking about fixing the broken 
system. Why? Any thoughts?

Also look up   http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271406. Some very fgood 
points raised in this.

cm


http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271389

OPINION
Removing Misconceptions
Addressing some of the issues and concerns raised by a number of commentators 
on the provisions in the draft of Jan Lokpal Bill
PRASHANT BHUSHAN
A number of commentators have raised issues about the provisions in the draft 
of Jan Lokpal Bill, whether it will be effective instrument for checking 
corruption and about the manner in which pressure was brought to bear on the 
government through Shri Anna Hazare’s fast. It is therefore, important to 
understand the provisions of the bill and how it seeks to set up an effective 
institution to deal with corruption.

Corruption in India has grown to alarming proportions; because of policies 
which have created enormous incentives for its proliferation, coupled with the 
lack of an effective institution which can investigate and prosecute the 
corrupt. Under the garb of liberalization and privatisation, we have adopted 
policies by which natural resources and public assets (such as mineral 
resources, oil  gas, land, spectrum, etc) have been allowed to be privatised 
without any transparency or public auction. Hundreds of MoUs have been signed 
overnight, by governments with private corporations, leasing out large tracts 
of land rich in mineral resources, forests and water, which allow those 
corporations to take away and sell these resources by paying the government a 
royalty which is usually less than 1% of the value of resources. The Karnataka 
Lokayukta Justice Santosh Hegde, has pointed out in a report on mining in 
Karnataka, that the profit margins in such ventures, is often more than 90%; 
thus leaving a huge scope for bribe giving and creating huge incentives for 
corruption. The same thing happened when Mr A. Raja gave away spectrum without 
a public auction to companies at less than 10% of its market price. Private 
monopolies in water/electricity distribution, airports, etc; have been allowed 
to be created where huge and unconscionable profits can be made by corrupting 
the regulator and allowing the private monopoly to charge predatory prices. 
Tens of thousands of hectares of land have been given away to corporations for 
commercialisation in the guise of airport development, construction of 
highways, SEZs etc. at prices which are less than 10% of the value of the those 
tracts of land.

Apart from creating huge incentives for corruption, such policies have resulted 
in involuntary displacement of lakhs of the poorest people, rendering them on 
brink of starvation and forcing many of them to join the Maoists. They have 
also stripped the country of its natural resources (a good deal of which are 
exported), destroyed the environment and most ominously, resulted in creating 
monster corporations, who are so powerful and influential that they have come 
to influence and virtually control all institutions of power as we see from the 
Radia tapes. In fact it is the corporations which have become the fountainhead 
of corruption, with ministers and public servants having become their agents.

While adopting policies which create huge incentives for corruption, we have 
not set up an effective institution to check corruption, investigate and 
prosecute the corrupt and bring them to justice. The CBI continues to be under 
the administrative control of the government, which is seen as fountainhead of 
corruption. Thus no action is usually taken by the CBI to effectively 
investigate high level corruption unless once in a while, the court forces its 
hand. Often, we see the CBI behave in a corrupt manner with no other 
institution, 

Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Altaf Mazid
It is interesting to read CM's observations, and the attachments. CM
is correct to note that it is the states like Assam is equally corrupt
like the CENTER.

Yes, no one is talking about fixing the broken system.

Why?

Every one getting a piece of the pie. We had seen hundreds of
supporters coming out in Guwahati for Anna during the fasting days.
Eventually the fast has ended and the discussions about the draft bill
has started.

Now how the corruption in Assam is going to be addressed following the
foot prints of Anna? It must get generated somewhere. And how many
will join to discuss the issues of dysfunctional system that is
prevalent in Assam with lighted candles?

Altaf

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Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Chan Mahanta
Every one getting a piece of the pie.

*** That is not necessarily correct Majid. Only a FEW are getting the piece of 
the pie.
It still is a very small percentage. But they are exponentially getting fatter 
at the cost
of the vast majority.

The answer is far more complex:

A: At the root of it is that the vast majority don't KNOW, what it should be 
like. Generations
have grown up seeing and knowing ONLY their broken system, while being touted 
by the
media, its intelligentsia and the political class as the world's largest 
democracy and lauded
by the West for being a 'democracy' but oblivious of the farce that it is. Now, 
when the West lauds
something in India, it automatically becomes the TRUTH, never mind the 
'kwabhaturi' 
(rottenness) it is.

B: There are those in the political class ( and the intelligentsia) , who do 
know it is broken. I would 
suspect MMS is one of them. They are NOT all intellectual bumpkins. But they 
also know of the enormity of the task of mustering the political will of the 
tottering behemoth to effect
meaningful change in an orderly and timely manner. They are afraid to declare 
its
mortal flaws and call for change, knowing of the logistical nightmare involved 
and 
terrified of turning anarchic forces loose, seeking change. So, like so many of 
our friends
right here in assamnet, they PRETEND everything will be fine , 'in due time'! 
'Bhukute koltw
nopoke nohoy' :-). 


C: There are many other reasons, big and small.  Share your thoughts on what 
they might be.

*** What is however quite obvious is that this dinosaur of a centrally 
controlled India will never
be able to reform. Reform must happen at state levels. But that is easier said 
than done under
 the current constitutional shackles, such as those whose phony sanctity keeps 
getting touted
even by India's most informed in an incredible display of fakery at times and 
ignorant at others.

cm




On Apr 17, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Altaf Mazid wrote:

 It is interesting to read CM's observations, and the attachments. CM
 is correct to note that it is the states like Assam is equally corrupt
 like the CENTER.
 
 Yes, no one is talking about fixing the broken system.
 
 Why?
 
 Every one getting a piece of the pie. We had seen hundreds of
 supporters coming out in Guwahati for Anna during the fasting days.
 Eventually the fast has ended and the discussions about the draft bill
 has started.
 
 Now how the corruption in Assam is going to be addressed following the
 foot prints of Anna? It must get generated somewhere. And how many
 will join to discuss the issues of dysfunctional system that is
 prevalent in Assam with lighted candles?
 
 Altaf
 
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Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Altaf Mazid
I am seeing everyone is getting a piece. Just take one example - in
the state secretariat nothing moves if you do not encourage the
system. The matter is so grave that if some one is terminated from his
service, he might have to pay bribe to get the order typed out. And
here most of the population are either govt employee or govt
contractor. We usually point our fingers to the minsters and
politicians but it is WE who are corrupting them for our own interest.

I agree to you - reform must happen at state levels. Yet I do not know
how to proceed. It is easy to pronounce that I am not going to pay
money for my rights. But then nothing moves!!

On 17 April 2011 21:35, Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com wrote:
Every one getting a piece of the pie.

 *** That is not necessarily correct Majid. Only a FEW are getting the piece 
 of the pie.
 It still is a very small percentage. But they are exponentially getting 
 fatter at the cost
 of the vast majority.

 The answer is far more complex:

 A: At the root of it is that the vast majority don't KNOW, what it should be 
 like. Generations
 have grown up seeing and knowing ONLY their broken system, while being touted 
 by the
 media, its intelligentsia and the political class as the world's largest 
 democracy and lauded
 by the West for being a 'democracy' but oblivious of the farce that it is. 
 Now, when the West lauds
 something in India, it automatically becomes the TRUTH, never mind the 
 'kwabhaturi'
 (rottenness) it is.

 B: There are those in the political class ( and the intelligentsia) , who do 
 know it is broken. I would
 suspect MMS is one of them. They are NOT all intellectual bumpkins. But they
 also know of the enormity of the task of mustering the political will of the 
 tottering behemoth to effect
 meaningful change in an orderly and timely manner. They are afraid to declare 
 its
 mortal flaws and call for change, knowing of the logistical nightmare 
 involved and
 terrified of turning anarchic forces loose, seeking change. So, like so many 
 of our friends
 right here in assamnet, they PRETEND everything will be fine , 'in due time'! 
 'Bhukute koltw
 nopoke nohoy' :-).


 C: There are many other reasons, big and small.  Share your thoughts on what 
 they might be.

 *** What is however quite obvious is that this dinosaur of a centrally 
 controlled India will never
 be able to reform. Reform must happen at state levels. But that is easier 
 said than done under
  the current constitutional shackles, such as those whose phony sanctity 
 keeps getting touted
 even by India's most informed in an incredible display of fakery at times and 
 ignorant at others.

 cm




 On Apr 17, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Altaf Mazid wrote:

 It is interesting to read CM's observations, and the attachments. CM
 is correct to note that it is the states like Assam is equally corrupt
 like the CENTER.

 Yes, no one is talking about fixing the broken system.

 Why?

 Every one getting a piece of the pie. We had seen hundreds of
 supporters coming out in Guwahati for Anna during the fasting days.
 Eventually the fast has ended and the discussions about the draft bill
 has started.

 Now how the corruption in Assam is going to be addressed following the
 foot prints of Anna? It must get generated somewhere. And how many
 will join to discuss the issues of dysfunctional system that is
 prevalent in Assam with lighted candles?

 Altaf

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[Assam] Dr. Dilip Ranjan Barthakur:The first doctorate of North-East India in the subject of music.

2011-04-17 Thread Buljit Buragohain
Dr. Dilip Ranjan Barthakur who is the first doctorate of North-East India in 
the subject of music.


http://drbarthakur.com/



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Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Ganesh Bora
C' da,

The Jan Lokpal may or may not work! But it scared the corrupt MMS government. 
If 
Jan Lokpal does not work, some other Watch dog will be born! But atleast for 
some time, government will think (or feel) that some one is watching them! This 
is the beginning of the end of Governing without Accountability!

Ganesh Bora
Fargo, ND






From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 8:49:34 AM
Subject: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?


Prashant Bhushan is a credible person on these issues. But will the 'Jan Lokpal 
' thing work? What do you think?

I don't think it will. It may have some value temporarily. Something a newly 
independent state may employ to get
its bearing, like I proposed for an independent Assam. But until such time 
India 
reforms and fixes its broken,
dysfunctional system, it will be about as effective as all the other, much 
hyped 
schemes, programs, laws 

acronyms and whatchmacallits -- like for example Panchayats, Fast Track Courts, 
RTI, CVC and many others.

Why ?

For the simple reason that the dysfunctional system will continue to keep 
producing the corrupt and the inept.
How will the JL, which is designed only to look after the CENTER - won't have 
anything to do with the states,
keep the floodgates closed and for how long? That raises another assamnet 
specific question to this 'odhom':
I was under the impression that it is Assam, and a few other states are the 
truly corrupt entities, not the Center,
not the 'prospering' states and so forth. Where is the disconnect?

The notion is akin to treating Typhoid with fever control medication. 

What is amazing is that no one NO ONE, is talking about fixing the broken 
system. Why? Any thoughts?

Also look up  http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271406. Some very fgood 
points raised in this.

cm


http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271389

OPINION
Removing Misconceptions
Addressing some of the issues and concerns raised by a number of commentators 
on 
the provisions in the draft of Jan Lokpal Bill
PRASHANT BHUSHAN
A number of commentators have raised issues about the provisions in the draft 
of 
Jan Lokpal Bill, whether it will be effective instrument for checking 
corruption 
and about the manner in which pressure was brought to bear on the government 
through Shri Anna Hazare’s fast. It is therefore, important to understand the 
provisions of the bill and how it seeks to set up an effective institution to 
deal with corruption.

Corruption in India has grown to alarming proportions; because of policies 
which 
have created enormous incentives for its proliferation, coupled with the lack 
of 
an effective institution which can investigate and prosecute the corrupt. Under 
the garb of liberalization and privatisation, we have adopted policies by which 
natural resources and public assets (such as mineral resources, oil  gas, 
land, 
spectrum, etc) have been allowed to be privatised without any transparency or 
public auction. Hundreds of MoUs have been signed overnight, by governments 
with 
private corporations, leasing out large tracts of land rich in mineral 
resources, forests and water, which allow those corporations to take away and 
sell these resources by paying the government a royalty which is usually less 
than 1% of the value of resources. The Karnataka Lokayukta Justice Santosh 
Hegde, has pointed out in a report on mining in Karnataka, that the profit 
margins in such ventures, is often more than 90%; thus leaving a huge scope for 
bribe giving and creating huge incentives for corruption. The same thing 
happened when Mr A. Raja gave away spectrum without a public auction to 
companies at less than 10% of its market price. Private monopolies in 
water/electricity distribution, airports, etc; have been allowed to be created 
where huge and unconscionable profits can be made by corrupting the regulator 
and allowing the private monopoly to charge predatory prices. Tens of thousands 
of hectares of land have been given away to corporations for commercialisation 
in the guise of airport development, construction of highways, SEZs etc. at 
prices which are less than 10% of the value of the those tracts of land.

Apart from creating huge incentives for corruption, such policies have resulted 
in involuntary displacement of lakhs of the poorest people, rendering them on 
brink of starvation and forcing many of them to join the Maoists. They have 
also 
stripped the country of its natural resources (a good deal of which are 
exported), destroyed the environment and most ominously, resulted in creating 
monster corporations, who are so powerful and influential that they have come 
to 
influence and virtually control all institutions of power as we see from the 
Radia tapes. In fact it is the corporations which have become the fountainhead 
of corruption, with 

Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Chan Mahanta
Good to hear from you Ganesh. But I don't share your optimism, because without 
functioning institutions in place, a watchdog 
or watchdogs will eventually become lapdogs. Just look at CBI. 

A government is only as good as the people who make it up. Until such time as 
able and people with integrity could not 
become a significant part of governance, it is doomed to be what Indian 
governance is.

c-da






On Apr 17, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ganesh Bora wrote:

 C' da,
 
 The Jan Lokpal may or may not work! But it scared the corrupt MMS government. 
 If Jan Lokpal does not work, some other Watch dog will be born! But atleast 
 for some time, government will think (or feel) that some one is watching 
 them! This is the beginning of the end of Governing without Accountability!
 
 Ganesh Bora
 Fargo, ND
 
 
 
 From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
 To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
 assam@assamnet.org
 Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 8:49:34 AM
 Subject: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?
 
 
 Prashant Bhushan is a credible person on these issues. But will the 'Jan 
 Lokpal ' thing work? What do you think?
 
 I don't think it will. It may have some value temporarily. Something a newly 
 independent state may employ to get
 its bearing, like I proposed for an independent Assam. But until such time 
 India reforms and fixes its broken,
 dysfunctional system, it will be about as effective as all the other, much 
 hyped schemes, programs, laws 
 acronyms and whatchmacallits -- like for example Panchayats, Fast Track 
 Courts, RTI, CVC and many others.
 
 Why ?
 
 For the simple reason that the dysfunctional system will continue to keep 
 producing the corrupt and the inept.
 How will the JL, which is designed only to look after the CENTER - won't have 
 anything to do with the states,
 keep the floodgates closed and for how long? That raises another assamnet 
 specific question to this 'odhom':
 I was under the impression that it is Assam, and a few other states are the 
 truly corrupt entities, not the Center,
 not the 'prospering' states and so forth. Where is the disconnect?
 
 The notion is akin to treating Typhoid with fever control medication. 
 
 What is amazing is that no one NO ONE, is talking about fixing the broken 
 system. Why? Any thoughts?
 
 Also look up  http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271406. Some very 
 fgood points raised in this.
 
 cm
 
 
 http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271389
 
 OPINION
 Removing Misconceptions
 Addressing some of the issues and concerns raised by a number of commentators 
 on the provisions in the draft of Jan Lokpal Bill
 PRASHANT BHUSHAN
 A number of commentators have raised issues about the provisions in the draft 
 of Jan Lokpal Bill, whether it will be effective instrument for checking 
 corruption and about the manner in which pressure was brought to bear on the 
 government through Shri Anna Hazare’s fast. It is therefore, important to 
 understand the provisions of the bill and how it seeks to set up an effective 
 institution to deal with corruption.
 
 Corruption in India has grown to alarming proportions; because of policies 
 which have created enormous incentives for its proliferation, coupled with 
 the lack of an effective institution which can investigate and prosecute the 
 corrupt. Under the garb of liberalization and privatisation, we have adopted 
 policies by which natural resources and public assets (such as mineral 
 resources, oil  gas, land, spectrum, etc) have been allowed to be privatised 
 without any transparency or public auction. Hundreds of MoUs have been signed 
 overnight, by governments with private corporations, leasing out large tracts 
 of land rich in mineral resources, forests and water, which allow those 
 corporations to take away and sell these resources by paying the government a 
 royalty which is usually less than 1% of the value of resources. The 
 Karnataka Lokayukta Justice Santosh Hegde, has pointed out in a report on 
 mining in Karnataka, that the profit margins in such ventures, is often more 
 than 90%; thus leaving a huge scope for bribe giving and creating huge 
 incentives for corruption. The same thing happened when Mr A. Raja gave away 
 spectrum without a public auction to companies at less than 10% of its market 
 price. Private monopolies in water/electricity distribution, airports, etc; 
 have been allowed to be created where huge and unconscionable profits can be 
 made by corrupting the regulator and allowing the private monopoly to charge 
 predatory prices. Tens of thousands of hectares of land have been given away 
 to corporations for commercialisation in the guise of airport development, 
 construction of highways, SEZs etc. at prices which are less than 10% of the 
 value of the those tracts of land.
 
 Apart from creating huge incentives for corruption, such policies have 
 resulted in involuntary displacement of lakhs of the poorest people, 
 

[Assam] Dr Bezbaruah to hit theatres in Hindi avatar

2011-04-17 Thread Nava Thakuria
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110418/jsp/northeast/story_13865867.jsp

Guwahati, April 17: Dr Bezbaruah, an evergreen Assamese film, is coming to a 
theatre near you in Hindi.
Shivam, the Hindi remake of this classic thriller, is set to hit the screens 
across the country next month retaining the theme and spirit of the original. 

Directed by Brojen Barua, Dr Bezbaruah was released in 1969 marking the success 
of commercial ventures of the Assamese film industry and became a trendsetter.
Jogiraj Choudhury, producer of Shivam, said they have tried to be as true as 
possible to the original script with only a few peripheral changes keeping in 
mind the changes in time. “Shivam is based on the original screenplay written 
by 
Brojen Barua. However, some changes have been made considering the present 
day,” 
Choudhury said. He said the movie would be released on May 6. 

“Our aim is to introduce the people of the country to Assamese cinema. The 
people of Assam accepted Dr Bezbaruah. I hope Shivam will succeed in other 
parts 
of India,” Choudhury said.
It was Dr Bezbaruah, which catapulted Brojen Barua into fame for his acting as 
a 
villain. Barua played the role of the main antagonist — Dr Bezbaruah — in the 
film and directing it, too. In Shivam, Mohit Chouhan will play the role of Dr 
Bezbaruah. Ramen Barua, who made his debut as music director in Dr Bezbaruah, 
has also composed the music for Shivam. Apart from keeping three songs from the 
original film, Barua has added two more melodious compositions to this new 
venture. 

“There have been changes in the music considering its necessity. Those who have 
heard the songs have given positive comments on them,” Barua said. 

Udit Narayan, Alka Yagnik, Shaan, Mahalaxmi lyer and Rajyoti Konwar (from 
Assam) 
have lent their voices to the songs. 

The film has been shot entirely in the Northeast with the director and 
cameramen 
taking full advantage of the beautiful locations of Shillong and Cherrapunjee 
to 
picturise the songs. Anshuman G. Barua has directed Shivam. 

The story of the film revolves around protagonist Shivam, the adopted son of 
industrialist Yashwant Malhotra. When Malhotra’s friend, Dr Satyakam Choudhary, 
comes to know that Shivam is not the biological son of Malhotra, he starts 
blackmailing his friend for money and property. Choudhury even traces the 
whereabouts of Shivam’s biological family. Things get murkier and the story 
goes 
on. 

Actor Nipon Goswami, who acted in Dr Bezbaruah, praised the step of making the 
film in Hindi. 

“The film will let the people of other parts of the country that there are many 
beautiful places in Assam and the Northeast. This will encourage other 
directors 
to come here and shoot,” Goswami said. 


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[Assam] Taxes etc.

2011-04-17 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani


It was one of the most boring Sundaysfiled taxes todayyes, at the last 
moment.
I had to assist today, can you believe that? I had to forego my Sunday (window) 
shopping and help with the taxes.
 
Yesterday, it was different. In the morning, I had a new experience of working 
behind the scenes in a fundraising gala for scholarships at our college system. 
I never realized how much work and fun it can be. 
I opted out for the evening gala because we wanted to attend Houston Bihu 
function in the evening. 
 
Of course, I havce some comments on the Lok Pal and corruption in India which 
are coming shortly...brace yourself, C'da. :).

 
 

  
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Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Dilip Deka
This time you are very correct - cent per cent as my high school math teacher 
used to say.
But how do you get the people of integrity to rub shoulders with those that 
have no integrity? Draft them? Slowly tempt them in? 
Educate them at a young age to join public service and maintain integrity?

From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
To: Ganesh Bora ganeshb...@yahoo.com
Cc: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

Good to hear from you Ganesh. But I don't share your optimism, because without 
functioning institutions in place, a watchdog 
or watchdogs will eventually become lapdogs. Just look at CBI. 

A government is only as good as the people who make it up. Until such time as 
able and people with integrity could not 
become a significant part of governance, it is doomed to be what Indian 
governance is.

c-da






On Apr 17, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ganesh Bora wrote:

 C' da,
 
 The Jan Lokpal may or may not work! But it scared the corrupt MMS government. 
 If Jan Lokpal does not work, some other Watch dog will be born! But atleast 
 for some time, government will think (or feel) that some one is watching 
 them! This is the beginning of the end of Governing without Accountability!
 
 Ganesh Bora
 Fargo, ND
 
 
 
 From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
 To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
 assam@assamnet.org
 Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 8:49:34 AM
 Subject: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?
 
 
 Prashant Bhushan is a credible person on these issues. But will the 'Jan 
 Lokpal ' thing work? What do you think?
 
 I don't think it will. It may have some value temporarily. Something a newly 
 independent state may employ to get
 its bearing, like I proposed for an independent Assam. But until such time 
 India reforms and fixes its broken,
 dysfunctional system, it will be about as effective as all the other, much 
 hyped schemes, programs, laws 
 acronyms and whatchmacallits -- like for example Panchayats, Fast Track 
 Courts, RTI, CVC and many others.
 
 Why ?
 
 For the simple reason that the dysfunctional system will continue to keep 
 producing the corrupt and the inept.
 How will the JL, which is designed only to look after the CENTER - won't have 
 anything to do with the states,
 keep the floodgates closed and for how long? That raises another assamnet 
 specific question to this 'odhom':
 I was under the impression that it is Assam, and a few other states are the 
 truly corrupt entities, not the Center,
 not the 'prospering' states and so forth. Where is the disconnect?
 
 The notion is akin to treating Typhoid with fever control medication. 
 
 What is amazing is that no one NO ONE, is talking about fixing the broken 
 system. Why? Any thoughts?
 
 Also look up  http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271406. Some very 
 fgood points raised in this.
 
 cm
 
 
 http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271389
 
 OPINION
 Removing Misconceptions
 Addressing some of the issues and concerns raised by a number of commentators 
 on the provisions in the draft of Jan Lokpal Bill
 PRASHANT BHUSHAN
 A number of commentators have raised issues about the provisions in the draft 
 of Jan Lokpal Bill, whether it will be effective instrument for checking 
 corruption and about the manner in which pressure was brought to bear on the 
 government through Shri Anna Hazare’s fast. It is therefore, important to 
 understand the provisions of the bill and how it seeks to set up an effective 
 institution to deal with corruption.
 
 Corruption in India has grown to alarming proportions; because of policies 
 which have created enormous incentives for its proliferation, coupled with 
 the lack of an effective institution which can investigate and prosecute the 
 corrupt. Under the garb of liberalization and privatisation, we have adopted 
 policies by which natural resources and public assets (such as mineral 
 resources, oil  gas, land, spectrum, etc) have been allowed to be privatised 
 without any transparency or public auction. Hundreds of MoUs have been signed 
 overnight, by governments with private corporations, leasing out large tracts 
 of land rich in mineral resources, forests and water, which allow those 
 corporations to take away and sell these resources by paying the government a 
 royalty which is usually less than 1% of the value of resources. The 
 Karnataka Lokayukta Justice Santosh Hegde, has pointed out in a report on 
 mining in Karnataka, that the profit margins in such ventures,
 is often more than 90%; thus leaving a huge scope for bribe giving and 
creating huge incentives for corruption. The same thing happened when Mr A. 
Raja gave away spectrum without a public auction to companies at less than 10% 
of its market price. Private monopolies in water/electricity distribution, 
airports, etc; have been allowed to be 

Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

2011-04-17 Thread Altaf Mazid
A government is only as good as the people who make it up  we are
getting a govt just like us. A govt is always elected by us, to rule
us in a manner we can bribe them when needed.

Altaf

On 18 April 2011 10:37, Dilip Deka dilipd...@yahoo.com wrote:
 This time you are very correct - cent per cent as my high school math teacher 
 used to say.
 But how do you get the people of integrity to rub shoulders with those that 
 have no integrity? Draft them? Slowly tempt them in?
 Educate them at a young age to join public service and maintain integrity?

 From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
 To: Ganesh Bora ganeshb...@yahoo.com
 Cc: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
 assam@assamnet.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 6:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?

 Good to hear from you Ganesh. But I don't share your optimism, because 
 without functioning institutions in place, a watchdog
 or watchdogs will eventually become lapdogs. Just look at CBI.

 A government is only as good as the people who make it up. Until such time as 
 able and people with integrity could not
 become a significant part of governance, it is doomed to be what Indian 
 governance is.

 c-da






 On Apr 17, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ganesh Bora wrote:

 C' da,

 The Jan Lokpal may or may not work! But it scared the corrupt MMS 
 government. If Jan Lokpal does not work, some other Watch dog will be born! 
 But atleast for some time, government will think (or feel) that some one is 
 watching them! This is the beginning of the end of Governing without 
 Accountability!

 Ganesh Bora
 Fargo, ND



 From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
 To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
 assam@assamnet.org
 Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 8:49:34 AM
 Subject: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?


 Prashant Bhushan is a credible person on these issues. But will the 'Jan 
 Lokpal ' thing work? What do you think?

 I don't think it will. It may have some value temporarily. Something a newly 
 independent state may employ to get
 its bearing, like I proposed for an independent Assam. But until such time 
 India reforms and fixes its broken,
 dysfunctional system, it will be about as effective as all the other, much 
 hyped schemes, programs, laws
 acronyms and whatchmacallits -- like for example Panchayats, Fast Track 
 Courts, RTI, CVC and many others.

 Why ?

 For the simple reason that the dysfunctional system will continue to keep 
 producing the corrupt and the inept.
 How will the JL, which is designed only to look after the CENTER - won't 
 have anything to do with the states,
 keep the floodgates closed and for how long? That raises another assamnet 
 specific question to this 'odhom':
 I was under the impression that it is Assam, and a few other states are the 
 truly corrupt entities, not the Center,
 not the 'prospering' states and so forth. Where is the disconnect?

 The notion is akin to treating Typhoid with fever control medication.

 What is amazing is that no one NO ONE, is talking about fixing the broken 
 system. Why? Any thoughts?

 Also look up  http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271406. Some very 
 fgood points raised in this.

 cm


 http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271389

 OPINION
 Removing Misconceptions
 Addressing some of the issues and concerns raised by a number of 
 commentators on the provisions in the draft of Jan Lokpal Bill
 PRASHANT BHUSHAN
 A number of commentators have raised issues about the provisions in the 
 draft of Jan Lokpal Bill, whether it will be effective instrument for 
 checking corruption and about the manner in which pressure was brought to 
 bear on the government through Shri Anna Hazare’s fast. It is therefore, 
 important to understand the provisions of the bill and how it seeks to set 
 up an effective institution to deal with corruption.

 Corruption in India has grown to alarming proportions; because of policies 
 which have created enormous incentives for its proliferation, coupled with 
 the lack of an effective institution which can investigate and prosecute the 
 corrupt. Under the garb of liberalization and privatisation, we have adopted 
 policies by which natural resources and public assets (such as mineral 
 resources, oil  gas, land, spectrum, etc) have been allowed to be 
 privatised without any transparency or public auction. Hundreds of MoUs have 
 been signed overnight, by governments with private corporations, leasing out 
 large tracts of land rich in mineral resources, forests and water, which 
 allow those corporations to take away and sell these resources by paying the 
 government a royalty which is usually less than 1% of the value of 
 resources. The Karnataka Lokayukta Justice Santosh Hegde, has pointed out in 
 a report on mining in Karnataka, that the profit margins in such ventures,
  is often more than 90%; thus leaving a huge scope for bribe giving and 
 creating huge incentives