date:20050818


My question is this:  Is this something new? A surprise?

If it is NOT a surprise, then has anything happened over the decades 
to hold the responsible accountable?


If not why? Is it because of a moral collapse of the people of Assam, 
the intelligentsia? Or is it because there is no functioning system, 
apparatus, tools  --- that could be used by the people to demand and 
exact accountability?


If there is no such institution of democratic governance that the 
people can use to hold the responsible accountable, then should the 
people not rise to CHANGE things, to reform the system dramatically? 
And if such an effort  is NOT led by the intelligentsia, like the 
people in this forum, then WHO would?


Of course we know the answer, don't we?  The insurgency is not 
something that fell from the sky, it was a RESULT of the dereliction 
of citizenship duties by its most privileged, those who have/had the 
powers, the resources, and  supposedly are the leaders of society.


And they are the ones who continue to cry, and call their fellow 
Assamese morally bankrupt, coward,lazy and corrupt!


What nerve, what gall!

cm


Undue  financial aid to the
contractor, excess payment
CAG report:  Irregularities galore in PWD

By a Staff  Reporter
 GUWAHATI, AUG 17: The  CAG's report for the year ending March 31, 
2004 has found several gross irregularities in the PWD department. 
The report  exposes how the department's irresponsible action caused 
huge  loss to the government to the tune of many crores of rupees. 
Delayed action, failure to comply with government instruction, favour 
shown to contractors, fixation of different rates for  identical 
items which smacks of favouritism, non-invocation of  penal clause 
etc. have resulted in such huge loss. We bring to  the readers' 
notice a few cases of such irregularities  committed by the 
department pointing to serious mismanagement in  the department. We 
are quoting verbatim from the CAG's report.


Undue financial  aid to the contractor and extra expenditure


[Injudicious  decision of the department to include forest royalty in 
the  analysed rate of earthwork led to undue financial benefit of Rs 
22.50 lakh to the contractor besides failure of the department  to 
comply with the instructions while awarding the work to the 
contractor resulted in an extra expenditure of Rs 20.10 lakh.]


The work of  Improvement of Singimari-Bongsar-Sualkuchi Road under 
Central  Road Fund of Ministry of Surface Transport (MOST) for 
2001-02  was administratively approved (June 2002) for Rs 6.96 crore 
and  was awarded (June 2002) to a contractor at the tender value of 
Rs 6.73 crore (4 per cent above the APWD Schedule of Rates  2000-01) 
with the stipulated date of completion as June 2003.  The physical 
progress of the work up to March 2004 was 95 per  cent and a total 
amount of Rs 5.08 crore was paid to the contractor against the 
measured work valued at Rs 6.05 crore.


Test-check  (November 2003) of records of the Executive Engineer 
(EE),  Guwahati Roads Division revealed that: The Chief Engineer (CE) 
PWD (Roads) allowed rate of Rs 97.35 per cubic metre for  earthwork 
with imported soil from private land within a distance  of 3 
kilometre including land compensation as per Assam PWD  Schedule of 
Rates, 2000-01 and in addition paid Rs 22.50 lakh to  the contractor 
towards Forest Royalty (FR) @ Rs 8.00 per cubic  meter on 256006 cum 
of earth work executed. The payment of  Forest Royalty on soil 
collected from private land was in  contravention of Government 
(Forest Department) order of June  1992 and thus resulted in excess 
payment of Rs 22.50 lakh as detailed in Appendix-XXX.


Against the  analysed rate of the item Construction of Water Bound 
Macadam (WBM) the rates of collection of 63-45 mm size  metal and 
53-22.4 mm size metal from quarry were taken as Rs  383.75 per cum 
and Rs 390.25 per cum (rate for machine broken  metal) instead of Rs 
335.65 and Rs 353.60 (rate for hand broken  metal) though as per 
approved estimate WBM was to be executed  with hand broken metals. 
Moreover, as per corrigendum issued by  the CE in October 2001 on the 
Schedule of Rates (SOR) 2000-01, the labour rate for WBM and the 
carriage rates for stone metals  were reduced with effect from 
October 2001. However, this aspect  was not taken into account while 
awarding the work in June 2002.  This had resulted in an extra 
expenditure of Rs 20.10 lakh as  detailed in Appendix-XXXI.


Thus, irregular  payment of forest royalty on collection of soil from 
private  land for use on earthwork and non-adherence to the 
instructions  contained in the corrigendum on SOR 2000-01 issued by 
the Chief  Engineer (CE) resulted in an excess payment of Rs 22.50 
lakh and  an extra expenditure of Rs 20.10 lakh.


The matter was  reported to Government in May 2004; their replies had 
not been  received (October 2004).


Extra financial  burden and excess payment

[Delay of over  two years in

Re: [Assam] New Member

Title: Re: [Assam] New Member


You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tell the rest of
India that the Assamese are just as capable as any other Indian,
if not better.


 This image of the Assamese is a CREATION of a certain genre'
of people, scions of the establishment, raised in privileges, whose
are witless and unable to see what sits on their faces, and then
attempt to explain away Assam's conditions on a genetic disposition of
its people that makes them slow, 'lahe-lahe', inept and corrupt.


It does not require any PROVING otherwise, because the
perception, the charge itself is at best, a mindless one.












At 6:17 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
A warm welcome to all of you who started
membership recently.
It is so heartwarming to see so many up
and coming Assamese youngsters spreading all over India and holding
responsible positions. You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tell
the rest of India that the Assamese are just as capable as any other
Indian, if not better.

We in the 50/60 age group would like to
hear from you guys regularly on topics that interest today's Assamese
young people. We start new discussions in this net and mostly they
degenerate into the same debate that has become too familiar. I am
hoping you guys can change that with a fresh viewpoint.

Dilip Deka
Houston TX

jadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all
I am Jadav Kakoti, working in North East Sun magazine, a political
fortnightly published from Delhi. I have just joined the e-group. I'm
from North Lakhimpur and have been here in Delhi for the last one
decade. Hope I'll have a nice interaction with you all on diverse
issues concerning the Land of Red Rivers and Blue
Mountains.
Bye
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Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme

2005-08-18 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka

I really do not see any problem in the use of "tumi" as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of "you" in Assamese - "Apuni, Tumi and Toi", and they areused as appropriate between two people.
If Bhuyanused "Apuni" just for the show, it would have beenartificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words.

Dilip Deka

muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello everybody

I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled "Ekap Half Chah". The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma "TUMI" all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him "APUNI". After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel.
My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong.

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RE: [Assam] Bhaina + Sankardeb Tithi at Delhi on 24th August 2005

Since childhood, this has been my dream to watch Bhaona, an all-nighter, that is. One more reason to retire in Assam - even if it takes you 15/20 years todo that. :)
During Durga Puja they used to always havefuctions with Oxomiya Naat-Bhaona, 'Oja-Paali', etc. for the whole night. But we were not allowed to be there for the whole night. 
They used to also have 'Jaatra-parti's there. I knew they had episodes from Ramayan, Mahabharat etc. in those Jaatra parties. What else do they include? 
Any detailed info on Oja-Paali and how is it related to Xotriya dance? And is there an easy definition of 'Bhaona', anybody? Or a book where all these are explained? Thanks!
And once again, welcome everyone to this net where you canspeak your mind without any inhibitions and no show-offs. :)


From: bg [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: [Assam] Bhaina + Sankardeb Tithi at Delhi on 24th August 2005Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:24:11 +0530
Sankardeva Tihi celebration with a Bhaona (whole night!) is planned for 24th August next in Delhi.. by Assam Asociation .. 

On 8/18/05, Mridul Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Hi Bhriti,

Welcome. I am Mridul from Delhi. The reason I am writting to you that, while I was doing engineering from Jorhat, my father was posted in Kokrajhar. It was a very nice place to live in at that time (1983-84). But after the Bodo agitation, the scenario changed. I don't know how is it now. I have very fond memories of that place. Being in Delhi, pls. keep in touch. We usually meet during the functions organised by Assam association. 

Be happy.

Mridul 
Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Welcome Bhriti. Tell us something more about yourself,your studies and your future plans. That will be a good way to get a conversation going.

I am a fifty-nine year old geezer :-), from St. Louis, an architect by profession, originally from Namti.

Best,

cm








At 12:43 PM -0700 8/17/05, bhriti choudhury wrote:
Hi Everybody,

I am new to this group. Let me first introduce myself, I am Bhriti Bhushan Choudhury ... I am doing MCA in Delhi. I from Kokrajhar. I guess some of you have heard of that place... Its a very remote place near about 240 KMs West from Guwahati. Now it has become the capital of BTC (Bodo Teritorial Council). Neways hope to get some response from you people. 

Bye

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Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme

Title: Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah
programme


I agree.

The emphasis should be on asking pertinent questions and getting
forthright answers.


I realize, we 'probaxis' have shed a lot of our traditional
formalities, which many of our peers back in Assam might find uncouth
and impolite. But be that as it may, the focus should be on the
substance and not on the appearances and formalities.










At 7:52 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
I really do not see any problem in the
use of tumi as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma
had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of
you in Assamese - Apuni, Tumi and Toi, and
they areused as appropriate between two people.
If Bhuyanused Apuni
just for the show, it would have beenartificial and probably
would have put a barrier in the flow of words.

Dilip Deka



muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everybody

I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to
Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel
called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including
Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled Ekap
Half Chah. The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young
Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished
to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma TUMI all through the
programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is
very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some
decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by
calling him APUNI. After all he is a H'ble Minister of the
Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small
things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the
programmes of this budding channel.
My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I
may kindly be corrected if I m wrong.

Muktikam Phukan



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[Assam] Fwd: [riverlink] Digest Number 550

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  1. Re: Kalam's speech, a travesty of scientific temper and ethics
   From: Sankar Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2. Re: The President again
   From: S.G. Vombatkere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  3. 58 Years of Independence- 'A Wonder that is India'
   From: pulak barua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  4. Re: The President again
   From: S.G. Vombatkere [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Message: 1
   Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:37:05 +0100 (BST)

   From: Sankar Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kalam's speech, a travesty of scientific temper and ethics

I think we should tell the President that he has 
been doggedly defending the river-linking 
concept although this is far from his area of 
experience. Let's tell him pointblanc that this 
is a travesty of scientific temper and ethics.

Sankar Ray

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There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. The President again
From: devashischatterjee
2. Re: Public hearing
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3. [PraxisNews] Indian President APJ Abdul Kalam 
calls for implement river-linking project with a 
'sense of urgency'

From: BanglaPraxis
4. 15 August Protest: Press Release
From: crbijoy
5. 15 August Protest: Press Release
From: crbijoy
6. Re: Discussion meeting on Teesta river, August 12, 2005
From: Debasish De
7. Re: The President again
From: Himanshu Thakkar
8. President Kalam parrots ILR , PM ignores it
From: riverswatch2003

Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:43:51 -
From: devashischatterjee
Subject: The President again

Well, friends, the President is back centre 
stage, even as Parliamentary Standing Committee 
(PSC) debates

go on, he again sees it as the solution to all problems, by
correcting the mistakes of nature or of God.

Devashis Chatterjee

Message: 2
   Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:45:05 +0530

   From: S.G. Vombatkere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The President again

Friends,
# Not only is it ILR to the fore once again, but 
also about permitting more testing of drugs on 
animals (which will promote pharmaceutical 
research that benefits MNCs but not poor people, 
thanks to WTO).
# For floods in Bihar and Assam (and equally in 
Mumbai or Gujarat), Dr.Kalam has advocated ILR! 
How can a scientist/engineer overlook the simple 
argument that flood in Ganga and B'putra that 
rages at 50,000 and 60,000 cumecs cannot be 
relieved by a canal that conducts away a mere 
1,500 or 2,000 cumecs? Or not understand that 
the expressways and rail embankments (and also 
canals) are obstacles to the natural drainage of 
the land and cause disaster due to flood water 
NOT flowing away? The answer to those questions 
is the blind, unscientific faith that our 
science education in schools gives to children, 
that ST can solve all problems, without 
understanding that ST causes its own set of 
problems that are often worse that the problem 
that they are meant to solve. The thermodynamic 
law of entropy needs practical interpretation 
into other fields, ... 
# In his Independence Day speech that entirely 
focussed on science and technology aspects, 
Dr.Kalam said,  ... rainfall and floods are 
annual features in many parts of the country. 
We need to thank God that they are annual 
features. We NEED rainfall and we NEED flood, 
and that too annually! But what we do NOT need 
and do NOT want is the DISASTER due to floods. 
Disaster due to flood is caused or accentuated 
by interference of man-made structures like 
river embankments (or road embankments and rail 
embankments without thought to adequate 
cross-drainage) with the natural drainage of the 
land. Proponents of our so-called modern 
methods of blind application of technology 
argue that if x quantity of something is good, 
then 1000x of that same thing is 1,000 times 
as good. They fail to see that if the ill effect 
of x is y, the ill effect of 1000x mostly 
cannot be accurately assessed (especially when 
human and other intangible factors come into 
play) and is often more than 1000y or 
sometimes less. This

Re: [Assam] my introduction WORD

2005-08-18 Thread Ajoy Hazarika


Jugal:

This is interesting. I thought "arubeli" is a future tense, such as "Aibeli Ahudhan Panie Marile, Arubeli Ahudhan Pam -- A part of a Bihu Naam. I think I was wrong all along. Or may be it can be "past" as well as "future" depending on the usage.

Best

adh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hemkosh says,1. arubeli: a. last year as in "arubeli ahilO~" (I came last year)b. next year when used in "xomprodan karok" (dative case, when someone is "given" something, usually indicated in Assamese by "loi" e.g. "bhogobanoloi dan dilO~" [I am giving this to God]). Usage: Arubeliloi akOu ahim (I will come again next year).2. TeOjbeli: the year before last.Jugal Kalita-Original Message-From: Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Ajoy Hazarika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu; Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:45:48 -0500Subject: Re: [Assam] my introduction WORDSORRY FOR THE WRONG SPELLINGTEUJBELI MEANS THE YEAR BEFORE LAST YEAR.I THINK ARUBELI MEAN!
S LASY
 YEAR, ISN'T IT? OR IS IT THE COMING YEAR?WHAT ABOUT THE WORD HORDOM ?I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is 'bhoyote touba touba khaise'.RAJEN- Original Message -From: Chan MahantaTo: Rajen Barua ; Ajoy Hazarika ; Alpana B. Sarangapani ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu ; Chan MahantaSent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:15 PMSubject: Re: [Assam] my introductionR:I have never come across this word : TEUHBELIWhat is its meaning? Is an antonym of aarubeli?cAt 12:55 PM -0500 8/17/05, Rajen Barua wrote:And what about TEUHBELI? R/- Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Ajoy Hazarika ; Alpana B. Sarangapani ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2!
005 12:21
 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] my introductionPise' aarubeli ki kal hobo he Ajoy?sAt 9:21 AM -0700 8/17/05, Ajoy Hazarika wrote:You are right. "kahanibai" is a past tense. adh"Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Though my roots are from Dibrugarh/Sibsagar and I grew up in Guwahati with the upper-Assamese words like, Randhoni-ghor,(instead of Paak-ghor),Pitek (instead of Putek/son), etc.,I have been fondly called a 'dhekeri' by my cousins from Nowgong.I find more lower-Assamese words in literature (oh come on, I read some literary books in Assamese too!) than the upper-Assamese words.Also, as Barua mentioned'Kahanikoi', it reminds me this -Iwas always under the impression that 'Kahanibai' is a word used in past tense - like, 'Xi kahanibai golgoi'. Well, we learn something everyday, don't we?From:
 "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Dilip/Dil Deka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "utpal borpujari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: Re: [Assam] my introductionDate: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:35:05 -0500If you want to know the Geographicalboundaryof Upper Assam and Lower Assam, generally a vertical line drawnfromBiswanath Chariali in North Bank may be said to the demarkation. Thisline will probably go through somewhere in Xilghat on south bank. The Britishused to have Soki (post) at this location when they divided Assam into UpperAssam and Lower Assam and gave (temporarily) Upper Assam to Purandar Singha atan annual revenue of Rs 5 whci eventually the king dafaulted and the Britishtook back Upper Assam into their own hands. However, one can usethe linguistic test also to diffrentiate an Upper Assamese. I have found
 thatnormally an Upper Assamese use certain words and phrases which a Lower Assamesedoesnot and vice versa.You can try the folloiwngwords whichprobably a lower Assamese doesnot use:TAKETW = Normally an Upper Assamese usewhen responding to one in a positive manner.KAHANIKOI = meaning which day. TUMIKAHANIKOI JABA?In fact I remember, Mr Abani Hazarika (thecricket player) used to tease and laugh at me wheneverI use the word'kahanikoi'. That is how I remember that probably in lower Assam, they donot usethe word.Similarly there are many such terms which aLower Assamese use which an Upper Assamese does not use. May be someone willcome up with some such words.Rajen Barua.- Original Message -From:Dilip/DilDekaTo: utpal borpujari ; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu!
Sent:
 Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:22AMSubject: Re: [Assam] myintroductionWelcome to the group, Utpal.I have a few questions for you - well actually for many others in thisnet.Where exactly is Upper Assam? Being from Upper Assam - does it connote anethnical difference from the people in Guwahati? Or is it a culturaldifference? Was it a cultural shock for you when your family moved to Guwahati(in Lower Assam?) from Upper Assam? What was the compelling reason that forced your family to settle in crowded Guwahati?I have always wondered why everyone in Assam wants to buy a plot of landin Guwahati after retirement and become a Guwahatian.Dilip DekaHouston, TXutpal borpujari <[EMAIL

[Assam] ref: my introduction

2005-08-18 Thread utpal borpujari

Hi all. Just a few things:
1. "Actually Jokaisuk is a mythical 'muluk', from which both Tilok Daktor and myself, as well as a host of other kharkhowas can and do hail."
- Chandan-da, Jokaisuk, as far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) is not a 'mythical muluk'. In fact, quite contrary to the image the name gives, it is located right on the national highway between Amguri and Sivasagar, before one reaches Gaurisagar.
2. "I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is 'bhoyote touba touba khaise'.- RAJEN"
Bhoi khowa nai. I am actually quite excited that what I thought was just a mere introductory mail from me, and thereby obviously my first mail to the group, has led to such an interesting discussion.
3. Manoj-da (of Assam Association, Delhi) and ShantikamHazarika : Thanks for mentioning about my winning the national Best film critic Swarna Kamal award in 2003 and being a jury member at the national film awards this year. This kind of constant encouragement helps in thinking of doing something better.
4. A request to everyone in the group: unless there is some kind of rule about this, please delete all the previous mails (except may be the mail to which one is replying to) while hitting the reply button. Otherwise, this makes the mailers very voluminous, with the same mails being appended at the bottom of each mail repetatively.
- Utpal

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Re: [Assam] New Member

2005-08-18 Thread Rajib Das

The charge of lahe-lahe may perhaps be a mindless
one - clearly from MY extended experience in schooling
across regions in India would demonstrate otherwise,
even if the numbers from Assam were relatively less.

What stares in the face however has different
versions of the story. It might be a good one to
listen to youngsters to find out what REALLY stares
in the face. Some of us in the 50/60 age bracket
might really end up listening to stuff they haven't
heard (or perhaps do not want to hear).

Applying the charge of scions of the establishment
to most of these youngsters would be mindless too.

people, scions of the establishment, raised in
privileges, whose are
witless and unable to see what sits on their faces,
and then attempt
to explain away Assam's conditions on a genetic
disposition of its
people that makes them slow, 'lahe-lahe', inept and
corrupt.

It does not require any PROVING otherwise, because
the perception,
the charge itself is at best, a mindless one.

At 6:17 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
A warm welcome to all of you who started membership
recently.
It is so heartwarming to see so many up and coming
Assamese
youngsters spreading all over India and holding
responsible
positions. You are the true ambassadors of Assam to
tell the rest of
India that the Assamese are just as capable as any
other Indian, if
not better.

We in the 50/60 age group would like to hear from
you guys regularly
on topics that interest today's Assamese young
people. We start new
discussions in this net and mostly they degenerate
into the same
debate that has become too familiar. I am hoping
you guys can change
that with a fresh viewpoint.

Dilip Deka
Houston TX

jadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all
I am Jadav Kakoti, working in North East Sun
magazine, a political
fortnightly published from Delhi. I have just
joined the e-group.
I'm from North Lakhimpur and have been here in
Delhi for the last
one decade. Hope I'll have a nice interaction with
you all on
diverse issues concerning the Land of Red Rivers
and Blue
Mountains.
Bye
Jadav

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Re: [Assam] my introduction WORD

Although all my relatives (and my ancestors did too) live in upper Assam, these words are greek or Chinese to me. 
I only learnt the other day that 'bhojoluk' means 'jolokia'. 
That is why I love the "language" that they use in Guwahati, you don't need a dictionary for it to understand, it is the written Assamese. :)
Is there a dictionary of Assamese colloquials, from both upper and lower Assam? 



From: Ajoy Hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Assam] my introduction WORDDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:24:58 -0700 (PDT)

Jugal:

This is interesting. I thought "arubeli" is a future tense, such as "Aibeli Ahudhan Panie Marile, Arubeli Ahudhan Pam -- A part of a Bihu Naam. I think I was wrong all along. Or may be it can be "past" as well as "future" depending on the usage.

Best

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Hemkosh says,1. arubeli: a. last year as in "arubeli ahilO~" (I came last year)b. next year when used in "xomprodan karok" (dative case, when someone is "given" something, usually indicated in Assamese by "loi" e.g. "bhogobanoloi dan dilO~" [I am giving this to God]). Usage: Arubeliloi akOu ahim (I will come again next year).2. TeOjbeli: the year before last.Jugal Kalita-Original Message-From: Rajen Barua To: Ajoy Hazarika ; Alpana B. Sarangapani ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu; Chan Mahanta Sent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:45:48 -0500Subject: Re: [Assam] my introduction WORDSORRY FOR THE WRONG SPELLINGTEUJBELI MEANS THE YEAR BEFORE LAST YEAR.I THINK ARUBELI MEANS 
LASY YEAR, ISN'T IT? OR IS IT THE COMING YEAR?WHAT ABOUT THE WORD HORDOM ?I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is 'bhoyote touba touba khaise'.RAJEN- Original Message -From: Chan MahantaTo: Rajen Barua ; Ajoy Hazarika ; Alpana B. Sarangapani ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu ; Chan MahantaSent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:15 PMSubject: Re: [Assam] my introductionR:I have never come across this word : TEUHBELIWhat is its meaning? Is an antonym of aarubeli?cAt 12:55 PM -0500 8/17/05, Rajen Barua wrote:And what about TEUHBELI? R/- Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Ajoy Hazarika ; Alpana B. Sarangapani ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] my introductionPise' aarubeli ki kal hobo he Ajoy?sAt 9:21 AM -0700 8/17/05, Ajoy Hazarika wrote:You are right. "kahanibai" is a past tense. adh"Alpana B. Sarangapani" wrote:Though my roots are from Dibrugarh/Sibsagar and I grew up in Guwahati with the upper-Assamese words like, Randhoni-ghor,(instead of Paak-ghor),Pitek (instead of Putek/son), etc.,I have been fondly called a 'dhekeri' by my cousins from Nowgong.I find more lower-Assamese words in literature (oh come on, I read some literary books in Assamese too!) than the upper-Assamese words.Also, as Barua mentioned'Kahanikoi', it reminds me this -Iwas 
always under the impression that 'Kahanibai' is a word used in past tense - like, 'Xi kahanibai golgoi'. Well, we learn something everyday, don't we?From: "Rajen Barua" To: "Dilip/Dil Deka" , "utpal borpujari" , Subject: Re: [Assam] my introductionDate: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:35:05 -0500If you want to know the Geographicalboundaryof Upper Assam and Lower Assam, generally a vertical line drawnfromBiswanath Chariali in North Bank may be said to the demarkation. Thisline will probably go through somewhere in Xilghat on south bank. The Britishused to have Soki (post) at this location when they divided Assam into UpperAssam and Lower Assam and gave (temporarily) Upper Assam to Purandar Singha atan annual revenue of Rs 5 whci eventually the king 
dafaulted and the Britishtook back Upper Assam into their own hands. However, one can usethe linguistic test also to diffrentiate an Upper Assamese. I have found thatnormally an Upper Assamese use certain words and phrases which a Lower Assamesedoesnot and vice versa.You can try the folloiwngwords whichprobably a lower Assamese doesnot use:TAKETW = Normally an Upper Assamese usewhen responding to one in a positive manner.KAHANIKOI = meaning which day. TUMIKAHANIKOI JABA?In fact I remember, Mr Abani Hazarika (thecricket player) used to tease and laugh at me wheneverI use the word'kahanikoi'. That is how I remember that probably in lower Assam, they donot usethe word.Similarly there are many such terms which aLower 
Assamese use which an Upper Assamese does not use. May be someone willcome up with some such words.Rajen Barua.- Original Message -From:Dilip/DilDekaTo: utpal borpujari ; assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:22AMSubject: Re: [Assam] myintroductionWelcome to the group, Utpal.I have a few questions for you - well actually for many others in thisnet.Where exactly is Upper Assam? Being

Re: [Assam] New Member

I wanted to thank Jugal Kalita for bringing all the people of Assam, living all over the world together like this. If some of you didn't know, Jugal (and Deepakar Medhi of Kansas) is the pioneer of this project. 
You are doing all ofus a huge favor by connecting us together, Jugal. And by doing so, you've done a big chunk of what we are supposed to do for the society. 
Thank you and may Assam net continue to flourish for years to come. 
Sincerely,
- A. Sarangapani
Houston, Texas.



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You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tell the rest of India that the Assamese are just as capable as any other Indian, if not better.


 This image of the Assamese is a CREATION of a certain genre' of people, scions of the establishment, raised in privileges, whose are witless and unable to see what sits on their faces, and then attempt to explain away Assam's conditions on a genetic disposition of its people that makes them slow, 'lahe-lahe', inept and corrupt.


It does not require any PROVING otherwise, because the perception, the charge itself is at best, a mindless one.












At 6:17 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
A warm welcome to all of you who started membership recently.
It is so heartwarming to see so many up and coming Assamese youngsters spreading all over India and holding responsible positions. You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tell the rest of India that the Assamese are just as capable as any other Indian, if not better.

We in the 50/60 age group would like to hear from you guys regularly on topics that interest today's Assamese young people. We start new discussions in this net and mostly they degenerate into the same debate that has become too familiar. I am hoping you guys can change that with a fresh viewpoint.

Dilip Deka
Houston TXjadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi allI am Jadav Kakoti, working in North East Sun magazine, a political fortnightly published from Delhi. I have just joined the e-group. I'm from North Lakhimpur and have been here in Delhi for the last one decade. Hope I'll have a nice interaction with you all on diverse issues concerning the "Land of Red Rivers and Blue Mountains".ByeJadav
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Re: [Assam] New Member

2005-08-18 Thread Pranjal Choudhury

Hi,

I have recently joined this forum and I find the topics being discussed quite enlightening and informative. 

I am Pranjal Choudhury. I stay in Bangalore and work as a software engineer in a company. I passed BE from Assam Engineering College in 2004. Came to Bangalore in search of a job and have been here ever since.


Thanks and Regards
Pranjal
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Re: [Assam] Advocate, FEROJE's wife Mujib pact secured Bangla migrants haven in Assam.

Now thats a balanced article.

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Declare Emergency in Assam
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Upamanyu Hazarika


The Supreme Court judgment striking down the Illegal Migrants Determination Tribunal Act has put the simmering issue of illegal influx of foreigners into sharp focus. Hitherto, this issue had always been given a political hue of minority (read foreigners) protection but now with an authoritative finding on facts and a severe castigation of the Government effort or rather the lack of it, in removing foreigners, this judgment now requires the Government both at the Centre and those in the Northeastern states to provide answers and to act.






There are three significant aspects to this judgment, which will impact on the political process in the Northeast. First, the court has equated the large scale influx of Bangladeshis as akin to a situation of external aggression, leading to internal disturbance under the Emergency provisions of the Constitution. Second, it has severely castigated successive Central and State Governments for providing protection to foreigners, to the peril of the indigenous people. Third, the response this judgment has evoked from political parties.





By equating the influx with external aggression, the Supreme Court has found that the impact of such large scale influx is the root cause of insurgency as well as economic deprivation of the Northeast. 





The court has made a telling observation: "The report of the Governor, the affidavits and other material on record show that millions of Bangladeshi nationals have illegally crossed the international border and have occupied vast tracts of barren or cultivable land, forest area and have taken possession of the same in Assam as well. Their willingness to work at low wages has deprived Indian citizens and specially people in Assam of employment
 opportunities.





This, as stated in the Governor's report, has led to insurgency in Assam. Insurgency is undoubtedly a serious form of internal disturbance which causes grave threat to the life of the people, creates panic and also hampers the growth and economic prosperity of the State - though it possesses vast natural resources. This being the situation, there can be no doubt that Assam is facing "external aggression and internal disturbance" on account of lar!
ge scale
 illegal migration of Bangladeshi nationals.





It, therefore, becomes the duty of the Government to take all measures for protection of Assam from such external aggression and internal disturbance as enjoined in Article 355 of the Constitution. The court having found that this is the situation requiring the Centre to act under its emergency power, the Government is free to declare Emergency under Article 352 of the Constitution to tackle this issue.





The court has also rendered a finding that existing statutes like the Foreigners Act and special enactment as early as of 1950 relating to immigrants in Assam, that is, the Immigrants (Expulsion from Assam) Act, whose provisions provided for summary expulsion of foreigners were not only not followed but in response to the mass movement in Assam in 1979 for their expulsion, the Central Government enacted the IMDT Act in 1983. 





This Act erected a huge super structure of screening committees by the Government coupled with judicial tribunals and an appellate tribunal making it impossible to either detect or remove any foreigner.





The procedure for filing a complaint by a citizen against a foreigner, the process of screening by a Government committee coupled with judicial scrutiny by the tribunal followed by an appellate tribunal made the whole process of removing of a foreigner impossible as opposed to the prevailing Acts which required no judicial scrutiny, easier procedure with summary powers being vested in the Government. 





The court observed that the procedure under the IMDT Act was so cumbersome that "it is far more easier to secure conviction of a person in a criminal trial where he may be awarded a capital punishment or imprisonment for life than to establish that a person is an illegal migrant on account of extremely difficult, cumbersome and time consuming procedure laid down in the IMDT Act and the Rules made thereunder".





Summing up the effect of the Central and State Government on this issue, the court found that the IMDT Act has been "purposely so enacted or made so as to give shelter or protection to illegal migrants who came to Assam from Bangladesh on or after March 25, 1971
 rather then to identify and to deport them".





Immigrants have always been politically beneficial to successive Congress Governments in Assam, shoring up the electoral rolls with committed voters, in the first few decades after independence and subsequently by virtue of being Muslim have acquired protection under the label of

Re: [Assam] Indian Institute of Entrepreneurship, Guwahati Website - ULFA !!

Dear Mike,

Ha Ha Ha!!

Thats a Good one.

It is more difficult to work for development than fire your guns and bombs - isn't it my ULFA friend?

You do your work , I do mine.

Cheers!!

Umesh

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Join Ulfa,Save Assam.Save Yourself.Save Indiaby becoming Truly IndependantSave the WorldYou are wasting your time at Harvard.Apply now on the Internet--all of you doubting Thomases.Mukul MahantFrom: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: tridip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] Indian Institute of Entrepreneurship, Guwahati WebsiteDate: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:23:40 +0100 (BST)Dear Tridip,Ofcourse I am interested in Assam's welfare. But right now I am under a massive $40,000 student debt which I incurred to come to US to study here. I am still seeking a job after graduating this June.Hopefully we can all create awareness about Assam's prob!
lems and
opportunities - around the world. I am doing my bit among my Harvard colleagues and teachers etc.Once I am free of the debt - atleast in a good job for a start - I would like to provide some financial and professional help to some organizations in Assam.Keep mailing.Umeshtridip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:nice thoughts, umesh! assam do need lots of local entrepreneurs...if they can make a success of their business year after year ( thus proving that assam is a good place to do business in), only then will outside investments pour in.wot say??btw , u r a harvard alumni. right?? a cream in other words! maybe u can be of some help hereafter all, charity begins at home! this i write assuming that being a part of this mail group...u have the best interest of assam in your mind! no hard feelings
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Re: [Assam] New Member

Definitely, Jugal. How couldmy one-track mindforget Babul and Saurav? I have no clue! :) Seriously, my sincere apologies to both Babul and Saurav. 
And yes, aaru keijon maan Assam-net-ot xoghonai (well, sometimes)likhalikhokor naam aahil monoloi: Anjan Nath, Shantikam Hazarika, Mridul Bhuyan and a few more that I forget now, or are there?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:31:01 -0400Alpona Baidew,ApOnar xolag pai nijei dhonyo manisO~. Moi bhabO~ Saurav Pathak (Philadelphia) aru Babul Gogoi (New Delhi/Guwahati) amar xokolOre dhonyobador aru xolagor patro. Teo~lOk duyO bohut xohai kori ase AssamNet solai thokar dOinondin kambOrot. Deepankar Medhi (Kansas City) jodio ajikali AssamNetot nai, teO~ arombho kora luitporia-netkhonO aji amar logote ekelog hOwar pisor pora. Gotike Deepankar amar hridoyot xoday ase.Logote jixokole xoday likhi AssamNet interesting aru gorom kori rakhe: Chandan da, Alpona Baidew, Rajen da, Ram da, 
Dilip da, Umesh, Rajib Das, Barttabistar, Kamal da, Bhubon Kokaideu adilOiyO dhonyobad aru ulog thakil. KarObar nam jodi pahorisO~ xeitu truti mOr aru tar babe agotei khyoma khujisO~.Nomoskarere,Jugal Kalita (Colorado)-Original Message-From: Alpana B. Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:27:14 -0500Subject: Re: [Assam] New Member I wanted to thank Jugal Kalita for bringing all the people of Assam, living all over the world together like this. If some of you didn't know, Jugal (and Deepakar Medhi of Kansas) is the pioneer of this project. You are doing all ofus a huge favor 
by connecting us together, Jugal. And by doing so, you've done a big chunk of what we are supposed to do for the society.Thank you and may Assam net continue to flourish for years to come.Sincerely,- A. SarangapaniHouston, Texas.From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED], jadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:47:58 -0500 You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tell the rest ofIndia that the Assamese are just as capable as any other Indian,if not 
better. This image of the Assamese is a CREATION of a certain genre'of people, scions of the establishment, raised in privileges, whoseare witless and unable to see what sits on their faces, and thenattempt to explain away Assam's conditions on a genetic disposition ofits people that makes them slow, 'lahe-lahe', inept and corrupt.It does not require any PROVING otherwise, because theperception, the charge itself is at best, a mindless 
one.At 6:17 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:A warm welcome to all of you who startedmembership recently.It is so heartwarming to see so many upand coming Assamese youngsters spreading all over India and holdingresponsible positions. You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tellthe rest of India that the Assamese are just as capable as any otherIndian, if not better.We in the 50/60 age group would like tohear from you guys regularly on topics that interest today's 
Assameseyoung people. We start new discussions in this net and mostly theydegenerate into the same debate that has become too familiar. I amhoping you guys can change that with a fresh viewpoint.Dilip DekaHouston TXjadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi allI am Jadav Kakoti, working in North East Sun magazine, a politicalfortnightly published from Delhi. I have just joined the e-group. I'mfrom North Lakhimpur and have been here in Delhi for the last onedecade. Hope I'll have a nice interaction with you all on diverseissues concerning the "Land of Red Rivers and 
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And yes, aaru keijon maan Assam-net-ot xoghonai (well, sometimes)likhalikhokor naam aahil monoloi: Anjan Nath, Shantikam Hazarika, Mridul Bhuyan and a few more that I forget now, or are there?
And also, Ms. Rini Kakati. I'm sorry I failed to mention Ms. Kakati in my previous mail. 




From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:02:00 -0500

Definitely, Jugal. How couldmy one-track mindforget Babul and Saurav? I have no clue! :) Seriously, my sincere apologies to both Babul and Saurav. 
And yes, aaru keijon maan Assam-net-ot xoghonai (well, sometimes)likhalikhokor naam aahil monoloi: Anjan Nath, Shantikam Hazarika, Mridul Bhuyan and a few more that I forget now, or are there?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:31:01 -0400Alpona Baidew,ApOnar xolag pai nijei dhonyo manisO~. Moi bhabO~ Saurav Pathak (Philadelphia) aru Babul Gogoi (New Delhi/Guwahati) amar xokolOre dhonyobador aru xolagor patro. Teo~lOk duyO bohut xohai kori ase AssamNet solai thokar dOinondin kambOrot. Deepankar Medhi (Kansas City) jodio ajikali AssamNetot nai, teO~ arombho kora luitporia-netkhonO aji amar logote ekelog hOwar pisor pora. Gotike Deepankar amar hridoyot xoday ase.Logote jixokole xoday likhi AssamNet interesting aru gorom kori rakhe: Chandan da, Alpona Baidew, Rajen da, Ram da, 
Dilip da, Umesh, Rajib Das, Barttabistar, Kamal da, Bhubon Kokaideu adilOiyO dhonyobad aru ulog thakil. KarObar nam jodi pahorisO~ xeitu truti mOr aru tar babe agotei khyoma khujisO~.Nomoskarere,Jugal Kalita (Colorado)-Original Message-From: Alpana B. Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:27:14 -0500Subject: Re: [Assam] New Member I wanted to thank Jugal Kalita for bringing all the people of Assam, living all over the world together like this. If some of you didn't know, Jugal (and Deepakar Medhi of Kansas) is the pioneer of this project. You are doing all ofus a huge 
favor by connecting us together, Jugal. And by doing so, you've done a big chunk of what we are supposed to do for the society.Thank you and may Assam net continue to flourish for years to come.Sincerely,- A. SarangapaniHouston, Texas.From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED], jadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:47:58 -0500 You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tell the rest ofIndia that the Assamese are just as capable as any other Indian,if not 
better. This image of the Assamese is a CREATION of a certain genre'of people, scions of the establishment, raised in privileges, whoseare witless and unable to see what sits on their faces, and thenattempt to explain away Assam's conditions on a genetic disposition ofits people that makes them slow, 'lahe-lahe', inept and corrupt.It does not require any PROVING otherwise, because theperception, the charge itself is at best, a mindless 
one.At 6:17 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:A warm welcome to all of you who startedmembership recently.It is so heartwarming to see so many upand coming Assamese youngsters spreading all over India and holdingresponsible positions. You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tellthe rest of India that the Assamese are just as capable as any otherIndian, if not better.We in the 50/60 age group would like tohear from you guys regularly on topics that interest today's 
Assameseyoung people. We start new discussions in this net and mostly theydegenerate into the same debate that has become too familiar. I amhoping you guys can change that with a fresh viewpoint.Dilip DekaHouston TXjadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi allI am Jadav Kakoti, working in North East Sun magazine, a politicalfortnightly published from Delhi. I have just joined the e-group. I'mfrom North Lakhimpur and have been here in Delhi for the last onedecade. Hope I'll have a nice interaction with you all on diverseissues concerning the "Land of Red Rivers and 
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[Assam] Outsourcing of Iraq war to Indian youth - more jobs and less deaths

Hi,

Given that so many varieties of jobs are leaving US for India and elsewhere in the developing world - since it is likely a large number of people here do not want to cut their lawn or attend telephone calls for companies or do tutoring - unless they are paid enough to be able party at night clubs, have drunken parties or overall have a jolly good time.

Fighting and dying in a foreign land (say Iraq) is perhaps not what most young Americans or their parents would consider an adrenaline rushing, challenging and satisfying task. Even when they have army recyuitment centers right in the middle of Commercial districts and residential areas.

It is said that even gays are allowed to join army on Don't ask , don't tell policy - since many prefer to engage in stabbing and gang violence than join army- in my nighborhood minority groups esp. in Washington DC area. (106murdered this year so far for a population of 400,000 only in PG County).

I am reminded of the French Legion till WW 1 (?) which had mercenaries and convicts serving there - since Frenchmen didn't want to fight there in Africa. Some comics even now carry these stories.

Why shouldn't Indian and US government allow Indian youth to fight for the US. There are already stampedes at Indian army recruitment centers where thousands come for a few posts - as mentioned below and most of us areaware.Though I wonder whether the majority of Indian muslims would be willing to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan. However, I saw this serial yesterday "Over There" where "formidable" Pakistani Anti-terrrorism groups were fighting in Iraq. Why not Indians?

Indians are -I suppose - to deaths . Even the army postings in Rwanda or Congo or Sudan -are looked up to - since you get higher pay and international exposure.

Any views?

Umesh

US Military Families React to Sheehan's Iraq Protest
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4803815

Bias in Indian military recruitment?
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3680/is_200201/ai_n9022041/pg_4

STampede during army recruitment in India
http://in.news.yahoo.com/040613/43/2dlud.html
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/mar/14sharat.htm

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[Assam] What about Asian/African Muslims - in a jehadi world :- Harvard study -Blacks and Latinos' education

Fryer's empirical analysis found - contrary to the popular beliefs of many - that a stigma attached to "acting white" does exist. In integrated schools, black students' popularity rose with their grade point averages but declined when their GPAs rose above 3.5. The disconnect between popularity and academic success was even more dramatic for Hispanics, whose popularity took a sharp dive once grade point averages reached 2.5.
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Not surprisingly, Fryer calls W.E.B. DuBois, who applied a mastery of several disciplines to the experience of black people in America, his hero. His inspiration, he says, comes from his own background. Marked by family instability, legal skirmishes, and lackluster academics, it bears more resemblance to the upbringings of the troubled black youth he studies than to those of his Harvard colleagues. As Fryer ascends rapidly through the ranks of academia, landing not only an appointment at Harvard but also a plum spot in the Society of Fellows while still in his 20s, friends and family from Florida and Texas are doing jail time.
"I was and still am friends with a lot of people who I thought had incredible talent from where I sat but did not realize their full potential. The question is, Why? What happened? Why did I somehow get out of there and none of my friends did?" he says. "That is my motivation. I'm working to try to understand the condition of me, my friends, and other black Americans."
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[Assam] SBI campus recruitment at Cotton College - a First??

SBI campus interview at CottonBy A Staff Reporter www.assamtribune.com
GUWAHATI, Aug 17  Good news for NE India. The Central Recruitment and Promotion Department of the Corporate Centre, Mumbai is holding the first ever campus interview at Cotton College here for recruitment of Probationary Officers in the State Bank of India (SBI) from amongst the students of Cotton College. The interview is slated for August 29 and 30. Disclosing this Cotton College Principal Prof Udayaditya Bharali said today that till date Cotton College was the only institution outside the three metros of the countryMumbai, Chennai and Kolkatain respect of the campus interview being held by the Central Recruitment and Promotion Board for recruiting SBI officers.For those thus recruited the remuneration package is excellent and there is ample scope of rising to high positions. The selected candidates will be given provisional appointment on the spot of interview itself and their appointments will be confirmed after the announc!
ement of
 the BA/BSc results and on fulfilling the condition that the selected candidates can secure 65 per cent or above in Major, Prof Bharali said.Cottonians who have appeared in the BA/BSc final examination of 2005 and expect to secure minimum 65 pc marks in Major are eligible to appear in the said interview. Such students are advised to contact the College Principal immediately, Prof Bharali said.The SBI authorities in a communication with the Cotton College authorities said the interested candidates will have to sit for a Prometric test for about 90 minutes. There will be a pre-placement talk in the morning of August 29 with a power point presentation for 20-30 minutes. The pre-placement talk and the test will be conducted in a classroom of the college. The successful candidates will then be called for group discussion and interview to be conducted at the SBIs Bharalumukh local head office.The list of the successful candidates will then be handed over!
 to the
 college authorities for publication. The appointments will be subject to securing 65 pc marks in the Bachelor degree examinations of the current year, said the SBI communication.
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[Assam] my introduction WORD

2005-08-18 Thread kjdeka


Ajoy da,
"Arubeli" carries two different meanings in terms of tense (e.g. the next year or thelast year). "Teujbeli" (original khondo bakyo is "aru teujbeli"), the meaning of which is the year preceeding the one before the last ( juwa bosoror agor bosororu agor bosor).
Source: Rotnakus by Sahitya Ratna Chandradhar Baruah.

KJD.
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Re: [Assam] ref: my introduction

2005-08-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani

First, I too would like to welcome each and every new member and joining the net.
We would like new members to bring in new ideas  thoughts, and I am sure you all will do just that.

And thank you Utpal, for joining the net and also for clarifying about Jokaisuk.

Both Tilok Daktor and C'da have been making usbelieve (all these years) that it is a 'mythical' place. But C'da is right, anyonecan belong to Jokaisuk. We can all rightly claim to a Jokaisukia.In that way, it makes feel right at home. In that sense, it might be better to think of Jokaisuk as an imaginary place or more like Utopia.


4. A request to everyone in the group: unless there is some kind of rule about this, please delete all the previous mails (except may be the mail to which one is replying to) while hitting the reply button. Otherwise, this makes the mailers very voluminous, with the same mails being appended at the bottom of each mail repetatively


You may be right. But (don't know about others), I normally find that helpful because previous mails serve as references when I reply.
Just my thoughts.

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[Assam] Re: ref: my introduction

Title: Re: ref: my introduction


Welcome Utpal. Our paths crossed before. I am sure you remember.
Congrats. again on your fine efforts.


Thanks for correcting me. I had a vague idea that there indeed is
a place called Jokaisuk, but was never clear on where it stood. Turns
out it is less than ten miles from my birth-'muluk' :-). But like Ram
suggests, it can become a generic but quintessentially
kharkhowa, obscure and humble locale, that many of us can claim our
roots to. In that it is a band of honor that we proudly wear.


Best,

c-da







At 5:36 PM +0100 8/18/05, utpal borpujari wrote:

Hi all. Just a few things:

1. Actually Jokaisuk is a mythical 'muluk', from
which both Tilok Daktor and myself, as well as a host of other
kharkhowas can and do hail.

- Chandan-da, Jokaisuk, as far as I know (correct me if I
am wrong) is not a 'mythical muluk'. In fact, quite contrary to the
image the name gives, it is located right on the national highway
between Amguri and Sivasagar, before one reaches Gaurisagar.

2. I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is
'bhoyote touba touba khaise'.- RAJEN

Bhoi khowa nai. I am actually quite excited that what I
thought was just a mere introductory mail from me, and thereby
obviously my first mail to the group, has led to such an interesting
discussion.

3. Manoj-da (of Assam Association, Delhi) and
ShantikamHazarika : Thanks for mentioning about my winning the
national Best film critic Swarna Kamal award in 2003 and being a jury
member at the national film awards this year. This kind of constant
encouragement helps in thinking of doing something better.

4. A request to everyone in the group: unless there is
some kind of rule about this, please delete all the previous mails
(except may be the mail to which one is replying to) while hitting the
reply button. Otherwise, this makes the mailers very voluminous, with
the same mails being appended at the bottom of each mail
repetatively.

- Utpal













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Re: Re: [Assam] New Member

Jugal: How could we both forget our very own Ganesh (Bora) and Priyankoo (Sharma)? Wetend totake our closest friends/relatives for granted. It is a human nature I guess. 
We also need to mention Amlan Saha, who seldom writes nowadays but I like his writing style and the topics too. 
Anyway, its not a big deal, but since we started we need to finish it too. :)
Good night, everyone. I guess it is a holiday in India today, today is 'Raxi bondhon', isn't it? The Roksha Bondhon web sites are sending mails everywhere. May be its not celebrated by the Assamese but all the states in North India do celebrate it with 'dhumdhum-koi'.




From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:06:09 -0500

And yes, aaru keijon maan Assam-net-ot xoghonai (well, sometimes)likhalikhokor naam aahil monoloi: Anjan Nath, Shantikam Hazarika, Mridul Bhuyan and a few more that I forget now, or are there?
And also, Ms. Rini Kakati. I'm sorry I failed to mention Ms. Kakati in my previous mail. 




From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:02:00 -0500

Definitely, Jugal. How couldmy one-track mindforget Babul and Saurav? I have no clue! :) Seriously, my sincere apologies to both Babul and Saurav. 
And yes, aaru keijon maan Assam-net-ot xoghonai (well, sometimes)likhalikhokor naam aahil monoloi: Anjan Nath, Shantikam Hazarika, Mridul Bhuyan and a few more that I forget now, or are there?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:31:01 -0400Alpona Baidew,ApOnar xolag pai nijei dhonyo manisO~. Moi bhabO~ Saurav Pathak (Philadelphia) aru Babul Gogoi (New Delhi/Guwahati) amar xokolOre dhonyobador aru xolagor patro. Teo~lOk duyO bohut xohai kori ase AssamNet solai thokar dOinondin kambOrot. Deepankar Medhi (Kansas City) jodio ajikali AssamNetot nai, teO~ arombho kora luitporia-netkhonO aji amar logote ekelog hOwar pisor pora. Gotike Deepankar amar hridoyot xoday ase.Logote jixokole xoday likhi AssamNet interesting aru gorom kori rakhe: Chandan da, Alpona Baidew, Rajen da, Ram 
da, Dilip da, Umesh, Rajib Das, Barttabistar, Kamal da, Bhubon Kokaideu adilOiyO dhonyobad aru ulog thakil. KarObar nam jodi pahorisO~ xeitu truti mOr aru tar babe agotei khyoma khujisO~.Nomoskarere,Jugal Kalita (Colorado)-Original Message-From: Alpana B. Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:27:14 -0500Subject: Re: [Assam] New Member I wanted to thank Jugal Kalita for bringing all the people of Assam, living all over the world together like this. If some of you didn't know, Jugal (and Deepakar Medhi of Kansas) is the pioneer of this project. You are doing all ofus a 
huge favor by connecting us together, Jugal. And by doing so, you've done a big chunk of what we are supposed to do for the society.Thank you and may Assam net continue to flourish for years to come.Sincerely,- A. SarangapaniHouston, Texas.From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED], jadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] New MemberDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:47:58 -0500 You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tell the rest ofIndia that the Assamese are just as capable as any other Indian,if not 
better. This image of the Assamese is a CREATION of a certain genre'of people, scions of the establishment, raised in privileges, whoseare witless and unable to see what sits on their faces, and thenattempt to explain away Assam's conditions on a genetic disposition ofits people that makes them slow, 'lahe-lahe', inept and corrupt.It does not require any PROVING otherwise, because theperception, the charge itself is at best, a mindless 
one.At 6:17 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:A warm welcome to all of you who startedmembership recently.It is so heartwarming to see so many upand coming Assamese youngsters spreading all over India and holdingresponsible positions. You are the true ambassadors of Assam to tellthe rest of India that the Assamese are just as capable as any otherIndian, if not better.We in the 50/60 age group would like tohear from you guys regularly on topics that interest today's 
Assameseyoung people. We start new discussions in this net and mostly theydegenerate into the same debate that has become too familiar. I amhoping you guys can change that with a fresh viewpoint.Dilip DekaHouston TXjadav kakoti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi allI am Jadav Kakoti, working in North East Sun magazine, a politicalfortnightly published from

[Assam] From Outlook India--A Rare but Clear View


INVISIBLE INDIA
Stuck At The Midnight Hour
Independence-as an idea, a state of being, lived reality-means 
nothing to the majority in India. The majority that does not ask for 
or get anything in return.

S. ANAND
| e-mail | one page format | feedback:  send - read |
Special Issue: Independence Day Special
In India Unseen, a railway line serves as a road; society refuses to 
let a safai karamchari change his profession; a trans-generational 
blind family gets no help from the state; everyone wants the urban 
homeless out, but no one tells them how to get a shelter. Did we 
become independent for this? Fifty-eight years after Independence, 
Invisible India's tryst with Inequality is played out right before 
our eyes-they unfold on these pages. Yet, we have trained our eyes to 
look the other away.


Independence-as an idea, a state of being, lived reality-means 
nothing to the majority in India. The majority that votes, the 
majority that sustains the structure of political democracy, yet the 
majority that does not ask for or get anything in return. In a Tamil 
Nadu village, a Dalit woman walks with her footwear in hand and casts 
her vote in the panchayat election, imposing faith in a system that 
will not even guarantee her the right to let the chappals remain on 
her feet. In rural North India, women who mildly resist inhuman 
treatment are routinely paraded naked and branded witches. Pedki Devi 
of Dhanbad in Bihar was accused of using black magic, branded a 
witch, stripped and tortured. Her crime: as a widow she would not let 
her husband's relatives gobble up the little piece of land she had 
tilled.


It is one thing for a humongous, unwieldy entity like a nation to be 
'independent' and quite another for an individual to experience 
independence. In much of India, society in various manifestations-the 
family, community, caste, the village, biradiri-lays siege to the 
individual self. Life-defining decisions are mostly beyond the scope 
of the individual. These larger entities overpower the individual 
even in everyday acts-whether you walk on a certain street, and if 
you do, what is the appropriate dress to wear; if it is okay for a 
woman to cut her hair; if it is okay to bathe in a certain village 
pond; if it is okay to address somebody in first person; if it is 
okay to eat certain foods. Larger decisions are even more difficult 
to make-choosing one's partner, giving up a profession ordained by 
tradition, marriage, not marrying at all, being gay.


Sometimes, society even tries to alter the choices nature makes, 
nipping them in the bud-for instance, the efforts to not allow the 
girl child from being born. While the world debates the pros and cons 
of stem cell research, in India 11.2 million illegal abortions are 
performed each year. In 1981, the ratio among children up to the age 
of 6 was 962 girls per 1,000 boys; 20 years later it is 927 girls per 
1,000 boys. Technological modernity in India subserves society's 
ruthless, 'traditional' demands. While the abortion debate in the 
West is about individual choice and freedom, in India amniocentesis 
leads to socially sanctioned genocide.


In most of India, for most citizens, real choices hardly exist. The 
independence struggle against the British was about fashioning a 
nation and seeking the right for some Indians to control the destiny 
of that nation. That struggle was about political independence, which 
was achieved relatively with less difficulty. However, the other, 
more important project-the liberation of society from antiquated 
values, on which hinges the emergence and the subsequent emancipation 
of the individual-has not even taken off yet. We have been 
indoctrinated into blaming the state for all the ills of society. 
However, our state has been one of the most politically correct: 
banning untouchability, banning sex selection, banning dry latrines 
that engender manual scavenging, enacting several laws that protect 
an individual's various rights, we will soon have even elementary 
education as a fundamental right.


 If we today have more than 200 million chronically hungry Indians 
and yet surplus foodgrains rotting in godowns, 53 per cent children 
dropping out of school and yet a Rs 1,000-crore Edusat in space, it 
is because of our society's inherent inability to allow change. The 
beast of society stands in the way of the implementation of any of 
the state's initiatives. And society is most cruel in its rural form 
where 72.2 percent of our population lives. Ambedkar had told the 
Constituent Assembly: I hold that these village republics have been 
the ruination of India. What is the village but a sink of localism, a 
den of ignorance, narrow-mindedness and communalism? India has the 
largest number of police stations in any nation in the world. (For 
instance, Tamil Nadu has 1,413 police stations whereas only 276 
hospitals). Yet society's crimes are condoned since the police 
protects society's interests

Re: [Assam] New Member

2005-08-18 Thread Barua25




Thanls Jadav:
Welcome to the group.
Could you tell us about North East Sun. I 
don't think I have seen this megazine. What type of megazine is this? Who is the 
publisher? How old, how many pages, what circualtion, what type of readers, what 
type of articles? etc. 
Are you a journalist there?
BTW I am looking for a good book written 
on the different cultures of the Seven Sisters. Aparently no 
khar-khwahas ever written anything worth the name on any our 
neighbours of the blue hillsduring the last 150 years.Do you know 
any good books? 
Rajen Barua, Houston


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jadav 
  kakoti 
  To: Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu 
  Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:19 
  AM
  Subject: [Assam] New Member
  
   Hi allI am Jadav Kakoti, working in North East Sun magazine, a 
  political fortnightly published from Delhi. I have just joined the e-group. 
  I'm from North Lakhimpur and have been here in Delhi for the last one decade. 
  Hope I'll have a nice interaction with you all on diverse issues concerning 
  the "Land of Red Rivers and Blue Mountains". ByeJadav  
  
  

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RE: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction