[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
Dangorias- can we please discuss other critical issues and ideas like introduction of inneline permits in Assam? Aren't we all Assamese who are invaded by Bangladeshis? On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com wrote: SJ, don't mind but the email below is out of context. We are not talking about performing arts. We are talking about the local dialect which is the Kamrupi language. Is it going to die out? At least in Guwahati, the younger generation is trying not to speak because of the Dhekeri stigma. Probably, this feeling will spread to the lower Assam districts as well. How then we preserve this dialect? Maybe someone should write a book in that dialect. Or someone should start publishing a newspaper? Someone who wants to preserve his/her Kamrupi identity should do it. Remember, languages thrive on constant output of literature. As for me, I am happy with my Assamese identity. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4717 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
SJ, don't mind but the email below is out of context. We are not talking about performing arts. We are talking about the local dialect which is the Kamrupi language. Is it going to die out? At least in Guwahati, the younger generation is trying not to speak because of the Dhekeri stigma. Probably, this feeling will spread to the lower Assam districts as well. How then we preserve this dialect? Maybe someone should write a book in that dialect. Or someone should start publishing a newspaper? Someone who wants to preserve his/her Kamrupi identity should do it. Remember, languages thrive on constant output of literature. As for me, I am happy with my Assamese identity. --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Surajit Jaradhara nipun...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Surajit Jaradhara nipun...@yahoo.com Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:43 PM From: Surajit Jaradhara nipun...@yahoo.com Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:43 PM I definitely do not find this is an interesting topic at all to discuss, and was trying very hard not to comment on this. But then, since this has now started to trickle down a few emotional, nostalgic sentiments so I would like to express whatever this lesser mortal/ obhajan can think of. Entire part of my childhood was centered around Guwahati and the nearby towns ( now they are towns) memories are drawn from there. During the Durga Puja festival and other festivals, the Ojha Pali was performed with great ease by people coming from many areas surrounding Guwahati , even from Mangaldoi. They performed various ttypes of Ojha Palis ( Byas Ojha, Sukannani Ojha etc). Interested ones can procure the book on the subject written by Sh. Nabin Sharma. The performance was done in complete coherence with the local dialect. Ojha pali is also performed in some sattras in Assam as per the expressive dialect. There are also different forms of Dhulias, Nagara ( nagra) naam, tokari geet etc. which display a diverse range of performances, apart from the BIHU or other harvest related festivals. Now we know that these performances are becoming lesser and lesser or one can say not taken seriously by younger generation. Well there also exist very popular personalities performing Naam with large orchestration of taal and khol in the same areas in question, where it is feared the language is dying. According to me it is not dying. The customary performances are being taken care of seriously. The situation is not only prevailing in one area ,which is under question, but true for all over Assam for various performing arts. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury( it may be roy choudhury as well), whenever he met people, used to say Dekh khan ggel ai, Kiba ata kor. I did chanced upon to flip through an assamese new daily where one lady writer ( i could not remember her name) did seem to write bisshwayanar dhamkhumiyat pothobrosto, dikbidikshonyo huwa asomiya somaj ( well the defition of asomiya- I dont want to get into this anyway) ketiya nijoke sombhalibo paribo! There seem to be many writting in this blog site, and yes people/members spread across world might also be reading all the posts and not trying to comment. It is known. Well, all of us who has the luxury of having access to internet and having the capacity to instantly work out some cerebral action to type out few words, obviously due to the unbroilical connection to the land - do finally seem to be a school of highly brained ...whatever. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury must have written today, if he came visiting moran noha gila khane eko korba nollak, bhaonat ...oops ...Internetot bohi bhimor boson maitsi --- buli ek brihot karjya etat nijoke niyok Korise. Some one might even say Hait, bhimor boson motato iman sohoj kam buli bhabiso neki toi. Aho Sobhasod jono, Aho guni jono, toharo mohima oparo. Bujibi lage Kiba , Bujili kiba. Obviously Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury, a revered personality like him didnot say Amar ai onchalto gel ai.. .. With warm regards. SJ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
I definitely do not find this is an interesting topic at all to discuss, and was trying very hard not to comment on this. But then, since this has now started to trickle down a few emotional, nostalgic sentiments so I would like to express whatever this lesser mortal/ obhajan can think of. Entire part of my childhood was centered around Guwahati and the nearby towns ( now they are towns) memories are drawn from there. During the Durga Puja festival and other festivals, the Ojha Pali was performed with great ease by people coming from many areas surrounding Guwahati , even from Mangaldoi. They performed various ttypes of Ojha Palis ( Byas Ojha, Sukannani Ojha etc). Interested ones can procure the book on the subject written by Sh. Nabin Sharma. The performance was done in complete coherence with the local dialect. Ojha pali is also performed in some sattras in Assam as per the expressive dialect. There are also different forms of Dhulias, Nagara ( nagra) naam, tokari geet etc. which display a diverse range of performances, apart from the BIHU or other harvest related festivals. Now we know that these performances are becoming lesser and lesser or one can say not taken seriously by younger generation. Well there also exist very popular personalities performing Naam with large orchestration of taal and khol in the same areas in question, where it is feared the language is dying. According to me it is not dying. The customary performances are being taken care of seriously. The situation is not only prevailing in one area ,which is under question, but true for all over Assam for various performing arts. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury( it may be roy choudhury as well), whenever he met people, used to say Dekh khan ggel ai, Kiba ata kor. I did chanced upon to flip through an assamese new daily where one lady writer ( i could not remember her name) did seem to write bisshwayanar dhamkhumiyat pothobrosto,dikbidikshonyo huwa asomiya somaj ( well the defition of asomiya- I dont want to get into this anyway) ketiya nijoke sombhalibo paribo! There seem to be many writting in this blog site, and yes people/members spread across world might also be reading all the posts and not trying to comment. It is known. Well, all of us who has the luxury of having access to internet and having the capacity to instantly work out some cerebral action to type out few words, obviously due to the unbroilical connection to the land - do finally seem to be a school of highly brained ...whatever. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury must have written today, if he came visiting moran noha gila khane eko korba nollak, bhaonat ...oops ...Internetot bohi bhimor boson maitsi --- buli ek brihot karjya etat nijoke niyok Korise. Some one might even say Hait, bhimor boson motato iman sohoj kam buli bhabiso neki toi. Aho Sobhasod jono, Aho guni jono, toharo mohima oparo. Bujibi lage Kiba , Bujili kiba. Obviously Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury, a revered personality like him didnot say Amar ai onchalto gel ai With warm regards. SJ --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:12 AM Interesting topic. I am a Kamrupi from my father's side. The surname Deka says it all. The reason for this language dying is the stigma associated with speaking it in front of people who speak the upper Assamese dialects. I do not speak it cause my mom does not speak it and deuta doesn't speak it unless he is angry!! But yeah, I was ridiculed as a Dhekeri many times in school (cause of my surname). Also I remember from my friends' stories how speaking Kamrupi could have had a catastrophic impact on your dating life. I don't know how we can get rid of this taboo on the Kamrupi language in Assam. Probably it will remain and eventually, we will all have a united dialect. Anyway, those are my two cents. Very simple thoughts. I do not understand and will probably not even try to go after the difference between Kharkhowa, Assamese, Kamrupi, Ahom etc. - Dhyan --- On Mon, 15/12/08, Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo. com wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo. com Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 9:52 AM My humble input: I am a Kamrupi by ancestry, though I am surrounded by non-Kamrupi as relatives. If the Kamrupi do not want to and know how to maintain their Kamrupi character, nothing else will help. More and more Kamrupi in Guwahati are discarding Kamrupi language in favor of other languages including Hindi and English. The real solution is in finding out why they are indulging in this practice, in stead of blaming the immigrants to Guwahati. I'll be surprised if Kamrupi is fading in Nalbari, Soygaon, Barpeta and Hazo. Please tell me
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
Nevertheless, when it comes to preserving a particular language, every effort must be made by the intellectuals. regards Pait BKPait Manager: ISOM 7886 ACHIEVING SUCCESS THROUGH EXCELLENCE Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com 12/16/2008 1:12 AM Interesting topic. I am a Kamrupi from my father's side. The surname Deka says it all. The reason for this language dying is the stigma associated with speakingit in front of people who speak the upper Assamese dialects. I do not speak it cause my mom does not speak it and deuta doesn't speak it unless he is angry!! But yeah, I was ridiculed as a Dhekeri many times in school (cause of my surname). Also I remember from my friends' stories how speaking Kamrupi could have had a catastrophic impact on your dating life. I don't know howwe canget rid of this taboo on the Kamrupi language in Assam. Probably it will remain and eventually, we will all have a united dialect. Anyway, those are my two cents. Very simple thoughts. I do not understand and will probably not even try to go after the difference between Kharkhowa, Assamese, Kamrupi, Ahom etc. - Dhyan --- On Mon, 15/12/08, Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo.com Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 9:52 AM My humble input: I am a Kamrupi by ancestry, though I am surrounded by non-Kamrupi as relatives. If the Kamrupi do not want to and know how to maintain their Kamrupi character, nothing else will help. More and more Kamrupi in Guwahati are discarding Kamrupi language in favor of other languages including Hindi and English. The real solution is in finding out why they are indulging in this practice, in stead of blaming the immigrants to Guwahati. I'll be surprised if Kamrupi is fading in Nalbari, Soygaon, Barpeta and Hazo. Please tell me if I am wrong. I know The late Prafulla Barua wrote a book in Kamrupi language. To enhance my knowledge, did any one else write in Kamrupi? Dilip Deka This e-mail message is only to be used by intended recipients and all others may kindly delete it and notify the sender. Unless expressly authorized by HPCL, the views expressed and the message itself is that of the individual sender and recipients are cautioned to check messages/attachments for any viruses before use. Users acknowledge that messages may contain confidential, proprietary or privileged information and that HPCL neither assures nor guarantees integrity or content of messages. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
My humble input: I am a Kamrupi by ancestry, though I am surrounded by non-Kamrupi as relatives. If the Kamrupi do not want to and know how to maintain their Kamrupi character, nothing else will help. More and more Kamrupi in Guwahati are discarding Kamrupi language in favor of other languages including Hindi and English. The real solution is in finding out why they are indulging in this practice, in stead of blaming the immigrants to Guwahati. I'll be surprised if Kamrupi is fading in Nalbari, Soygaon, Barpeta and Hazo. Please tell me if I am wrong. I know The late Prafulla Barua wrote a book in Kamrupi language. To enhance my knowledge, did any one else write in Kamrupi? Dilip Deka From: Suman Mahanta suman_maha...@yahoo.com To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:14:46 AM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation I agree to some extent with Manoj: It is wise to safegaurd our own culture and language. This doesn't mean you disrespect other's culture and language to safe guard your own. There can't be any excuse to that. In the process you achieve nothing. One can be highly talented and knowledgeable, I am sure most of the members in this group are highly brilliant and talented in their own field of work. But knowledge without wisdom is meaningless. There are far more burning issues of Assam than wasting time on Kamrupi and non Kamrupi mails. I am sure members of these group can provide more constructive ideas to these issues rather than allowing only a few selective member's mail to be part of this group. Get views of all section of the crowd and not restrict to only pro kamrupi mails. One individual can't hijack the whole group with his own thoughts and disallow others views to be aired in the group. I hope better sense prevails and we shall see a united group fighting against common problems rather than wasting time on trivial issues. Suman From: Manoj Das dasm...@gmail.com To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:05:52 Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation Hi all! I have been following this discussion.. It is true that Kamrupi language (kothito) is being on the brink of extinction due to the invasion of typical upper Assamish written version (likhito). Rabin is trying to express is this fact in a crude manner. His language is uncouth and aggressive, which stinks of contempt. He is after all not a very bad person, only the presentation is not that savvy. Rabin did yeoman's job indeveloping Assamese fonts, one which I used for creating the main namemast of Srimanta Sankaradeva Bhawan at New Delhi. Devil must also get its due. As Ankur said, we are facing now very serious problems from terrorism and demographic invasion. Being inactive and passive, we have become part of the problem, not of the solution. Lets unite our energies to fight stark realities. Other things will come side by side. -mkd On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:47 AM, ankur baruah ankur...@gmail. com wrote: Hi all, I thought we all r assamese ..where kamrupi n ahom came from??? I knw its better to know our hostory, but also we hv to look into aur future as well..The most important thought is right now...how to tackle terrorism... more specifically how to stop illegal migrants from neighbouring country into our nation n state... Just remmember its becoz of Mr. Lachit tht we r saved from Moghul invasion...He fought for assam, moreover his most fight were in place from where kamrupi belongs. n kamrupis helped him in tooth n nail...thanks http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4679 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
I disagree with Mr Manoj completely about 'likhito' assamese from being any part of Assam. 'Likhto' assamese is a standard all across Assam and literature in assamese both from lower and upper assam were equally there throughout modern history. As regards to 'kothito' assamese, lower assam and upper assam slangs are quite different but both are far away from 'likhito' assamese ( I can give tons of examples ) - lower assam slangs are further away. But, I completely agree with we are facing now very serious problems from terrorism and demographic invasion. Being inactive and passive, we have become part of the problem, not of the solution. There is no point debating about any of our differences. We should even forget about personal fights and ego clashes completely to tackle the above menace. To ALL: Can we be completely united in this forum for being purely focused on curbing all these menace? Thanks in advance, Nabanjan From: Manoj Das dasm...@gmail.com To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:05:52 Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation Hi all! I have been following this discussion. It is true that Kamrupi language (kothito) is being on the brink of extinction due to the invasion of typical upper Assamish written version (likhito). Rabin is trying to express is this fact in a crude manner. His language is uncouth and aggressive, which stinks of contempt. He is after all not a very bad person, only the presentation is not that savvy. Rabin did yeoman's job indeveloping Assamese fonts, one which I used for creating the main namemast of Srimanta Sankaradeva Bhawan at New Delhi. Devil must also get its due. As Ankur said, we are facing now very serious problems from terrorism and demographic invasion. Being inactive and passive, we have become part of the problem, not of the solution. Lets unite our energies to fight stark realities. Other things will come side by side. -mkd On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:47 AM, ankur baruah ankur...@gmail. com wrote: Hi all, I thought we all r assamese ..where kamrupi n ahom came from??? I knw its better to know our hostory, but also we hv to look into aur future as well..The most important thought is right now...how to tackle terrorism... more specifically how to stop illegal migrants from neighbouring country into our nation n state... Just remmember its becoz of Mr. Lachit tht we r saved from Moghul invasion...He fought for assam, moreover his most fight were in place from where kamrupi belongs. n kamrupis helped him in tooth n nail...thanks http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4679 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
What Manoj Das, Mrinal Raja et al have been writing on this thread sounds like echoes :-') from herds of Ahom leaders (both Mongoloid Dravidian) who have been in the field since 1979 with same reverberation like - united Assamese, illegal immigration problem, deport illegal immigrant, proud history, This thread is to review Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation, lets put together some facts, so we know ethnic differences between Ahom and Kamrupi. There are threads in assamonline talking about: Ahom Buranji (it would be fascinating to see Lachit there), Illegal Immigration, Terrorists attacks, etc Lets use these threads as appropriate. : I thought we all r assamese..where kamrupi n ahom came from? Please do not over-read my note :) As stated Kamrupi people are Assamese, but not kharkhuwa. (And Ahom ought not invent/use any nick name for Kamrupi - including Kamrupi word for bitch, lower-Assam, western-Assam, etc, use Kamrupi only.) Try to explore unity in diversity line of thinking, try seeing Assamese a mother with couple of children like Ahom, Kamrupi, etc - here Ahom is innovative, have been implementing whole lot of stuff e.g. ULFA Limited, SULFA Limited, Secret Killing Limited, Promotion Killing Limited, etc. I have suggested discussing Ahom innovations in two categories: (a) Parametric manners (b) Repulsive manner driven engagement See - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4679 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4679 Lets do a comparison with respect to (a) (b) between Ahom and Kamrupi - this will be enough to see ethnic differences. --- Manoj Das dasm...@... wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4694 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4694
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
Hi all! I have been following this discussion. It is true that Kamrupi language (kothito) is being on the brink of extinction due to the invasion of typical upper Assamish written version (likhito). Rabin is trying to express is this fact in a crude manner. His language is uncouth and aggressive, which stinks of contempt. He is after all not a very bad person, only the presentation is not that savvy. Rabin did yeoman's job indeveloping Assamese fonts, one which I used for creating the main namemast of Srimanta Sankaradeva Bhawan at New Delhi. Devil must also get its due. As Ankur said, we are facing now very serious problems from terrorism and demographic invasion. Being inactive and passive, we have become part of the problem, not of the solution. Lets unite our energies to fight stark realities. Other things will come side by side. -mkd On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:47 AM, ankur baruah ankur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I thought we all r assamese..where kamrupi n ahom came from??? I knw its better to know our hostory, but also we hv to look into aur future as well.The most important thought is right now...how to tackle terrorism...more specifically how to stop illegal migrants from neighbouring country into our nation n state... Just remmember its becoz of Mr. Lachit tht we r saved from Moghul invasion...He fought for assam, moreover his most fight were in place from where kamrupi belongs.n kamrupis helped him in tooth n nail...thanks http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4679 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
Hi all, I thought we all r assamese..where kamrupi n ahom came from??? I knw its better to know our hostory, but also we hv to look into aur future as well.The most important thought is right now...how to tackle terrorism...more specifically how to stop illegal migrants from neighbouring country into our nation n state... Just remmember its becoz of Mr. Lachit tht we r saved from Moghul invasion...He fought for assam, moreover his most fight were in place from where kamrupi belongs.n kamrupis helped him in tooth n nail...thanks http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4679 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:assamonline-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:assamonline-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: assamonline-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
Mr Deka, Well, I am writing with good intent. I am Kamrupi too. But, I completely disagree to your views. Please ask at the bottom of your heart - these writings are far away from truth, unconstructive and wastes time - more importantly it wastes your precious time. With due regards to all the good work you did, you can focus on those, as frankly speaking you will lose respect of not just others but also in the eyes of fellow average educated Kamrupi. I really respected you for all your good work. Regards, Nabanjan To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 8, 2008 9:53:30 PM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation Kamrupi is not a race, but geographically unique ethnic population-segment who exhibit some unique quality -- ethnic root composed of Vedic, Mongoloid, as well as gene-mixed or Vedic+Mongoloid. Ahom is not defined a race either. [Of or related to Ahom land is Ahom ...] (see appended email) A professionally intelligible definition - e.g., American car, American food-product, American national ... Ahom car, Ahom food-product, Ahom national ... Ahom nationals are of two categories - Dravidian Ahom and Mongoloid Ahom - each category may be broken as appropriate, e.g., Dravidian Hinduman Ahom, Mongoloid Mushalman Ahom, etc ... Both repulsive manner driven engagement and parametric element (or manner) found among Ahom makes Kamrupi visibly separable from Ahom - more later with e.g.. It is important for Kamrupi to retain those unique quality and Kamrupi should NOT SHOULDER outputs that are because of the implementations of Ahom innovations. Please feel free to ask any question! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Mrinal Singh Raja mrinal_raja@ yahoo.co. in wrote: Hi, Is there a Moderator on this group... I have seem presence of so many eminent persons on this group.. but no one is opposing.. such racial dialogue.. Very very disgusting.. . Thanks and regards Mrinal Singh Raja From: deka7kl [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, 30 November, 2008 6:27:31 AM Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concerns over Ahom innovations It does not look like Mr Pait has read my note. My note is clear Kamrupi are Assamese but Kamrupi are not Kharkhuwa. (Of or related to Ahom land is Ahom. Ahom people are broadly two categories Dravidian Ahom and Mongoloid Ahom.) Kamrupi can NOT SHOULDER outputs that are because of the implementations of Ahom innovations: Such as industries like ULFA; SULFA; secret killers (all secret killers came out of Saikia commission were Ahom both mongoloid and Dravidian); innocent killings by Police for promotion (so far I have found all police offices are Ahom). Do not try to divide Assam is a commonly used slogan! Some constructive ideas: (1) Ahom needs to shoulder responsibility for their innovative implementations (a) Ahom media industry / journalists failed to demonstrate Assam blast an attack on India (b) Ahom leader failed to acknowledge Pakistani flag flown in greater Kamrupi land (2) Ahom needs to study what causes repulsive manner driven engagement among Ahom (3) Ahom needs to study how to correct parametric elements found among some Ahom Three parametric elements examples of both Dravidian and Mongoloid Ahom - (a) all who talks of homosexual stuff in North America; (b) all who plagiarized; (c) all who threatened (4) Try to predict/prevent loop-effect (due to repulsive mannered and parametric elements) Also see Kulaip's response: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4655 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
Kamrupi is not a race, but geographically unique ethnic population-segment who exhibit *some unique quality* -- ethnic root composed of Vedic, Mongoloid, as well as gene-mixed or Vedic+Mongoloid. Ahom is not defined a race either. [Of or related to Ahom land is Ahom ...] (see appended email) A *professionally intelligible* definition - *e.g.,* American car, American food-product, American national ... Ahom car, Ahom food-product, Ahom national ... Ahom nationals are of two categories - *Dravidian Ahom* and *Mongoloid Ahom*- each category may be broken as appropriate, e.g., *Dravidian Hinduman Ahom*, *Mongoloid Mushalman Ahom*, etc ... Both repulsive manner driven engagement and parametric element (or manner) found among Ahom makes Kamrupi visibly separable from Ahom - more later with *e.g..* It is important for Kamrupi to *retain those unique quality* and Kamrupi should NOT SHOULDER outputs that are because of the implementations of Ahom innovations. Please feel free to ask any question! *On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Mrinal Singh Raja [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: * Hi, Is there a Moderator on this group... I have seem presence of so many eminent persons on this group.. but no one is opposing.. such racial dialogue.. Very very disgusting... Thanks and regards Mrinal Singh Raja *From:* deka7kl [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* assamonline@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, 30 November, 2008 6:27:31 AM *Subject:* [asom] Kamrupi concerns over Ahom innovations It does not look like Mr Pait has read my note. My note is clear Kamrupi are Assamese but Kamrupi are not Kharkhuwa. (Of or related to Ahom land is Ahom. Ahom people are broadly two categories Dravidian Ahom and Mongoloid Ahom.) Kamrupi can NOT SHOULDER outputs that are because of the implementations of Ahom innovations: Such as industries like ULFA; SULFA; secret killers (all secret killers came out of Saikia commission were Ahom both mongoloid and Dravidian); innocent killings by Police for promotion (so far I have found all police offices are Ahom). Do not try to divide Assam is a commonly used slogan! *Some constructive ideas:* *(1) Ahom needs to shoulder responsibility for their innovative implementations* (a) Ahom media industry / journalists failed to demonstrate Assam blast an attack on India (b) Ahom leader failed to acknowledge Pakistani flag flown in greater Kamrupi land *(2) Ahom needs to study what causes repulsive manner driven engagement among Ahom* *(3) Ahom needs to study how to correct parametric elements found among some Ahom* Three parametric elements examples of both Dravidian and Mongoloid Ahom - (a) all who talks of homosexual stuff in North America; (b) all who plagiarized; (c) all who threatened *(4) Try to predict/prevent loop-effect (due to repulsive mannered and parametric elements)* *Also see Kulaip's response:* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/4655
