Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-17 Thread Thomas Eckardt
I did what GrayHat recommended but assp starts crashing again.

I think any BerkeleyDB (mostly it is the 'Griplist') is damaged because of 
a crash - to solve it - do:

- make sure you have a backup of your Berkeley-DB's in folder 
'mysql/backup' or do an export to 'mysql/export' (use the GUI)
- stop assp
- copy the backup/export files to 'mysql/import' and add the extension 
'.rpl' to every file
- delete all files in assp-base and 'assp-base/pbdb' which have the 
extension '.bdb'
- delete all files related to 'griplist' in assp-base
- delete all files related to 'backdnslist' in 'assp-base/files'
- delete the folder 'assp-base/tmpDB'
- start assp

on startup assp will recreate all BerkeleyDB's and needed folders and 
files - and will import all files from 'mysql/import'
within the  first 10 minutes assp should do a full download of 'Griplist' 
and 'BackDNS' if configured

Thomas





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On 16 June 2010 11:40, Thomas Eckardt thomas.ecka...@thockar.com wrote:

 I'm actually not
 using BerkeleyDB because the DB_File module is not installed


 ASSP uses BerkeleyDB engine version 4.5 or higher (recommended is 
4.7.25),
 which requires BerkeleyDB.pm (0.42 is recommended) - NOT DB_File.pm -
 DB_File only supports BerkeleyDB version 1 and 2.


ah, okay, I have what is recommended:
2010-Jun-15 11:37:52 [init] DB_File module is not installed - DB_File
(Berkeley V1) database usage not available
2010-Jun-15 11:37:52 [init] BerkeleyDB module version 0.42 installed -
Berkeley database usage available
2010-Jun-15 11:37:52 [init] BerkeleyDB DB-version 4.7 / Berkeley DB 
4.7.25:
(May 15, 2008) is installed

I did what GrayHat recommended but assp starts crashing again.
By the way, it also crashes with useBerkeleyDB enabled but useDB4IntCache
disabled.
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-17 Thread Thomas Eckardt
What is the contents of the exception.log ?

Thomas




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On 16 June 2010 09:54, Wim Borghs wim.bor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15 June 2010 13:01, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:

 Are you using berkeleyDB for the penaltybox data ?


 After disabling useBerkeleyDB ASSP version 2.0.2(1.1.11) runs fine.


Hm, that's not the case anymore. It still crashes with useBerkeleyDB
disabled. I'm going back to version 2.0.2(1.1.08) now...
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-17 Thread Wim Borghs
On 17 June 2010 10:38, Thomas Eckardt thomas.ecka...@thockar.com wrote:

 What is the contents of the exception.log ?


Sometimes after a crash and restart of assp, I get a message like Abort:
ASSP is still running with process-ID: 2468 - (or delete file
d:/assp-v2/pid).
exception.log is filled with such lines.
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-17 Thread Thomas Eckardt
exception.log is filled with such lines.

No other lines there?






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On 17 June 2010 10:38, Thomas Eckardt thomas.ecka...@thockar.com wrote:

 What is the contents of the exception.log ?


Sometimes after a crash and restart of assp, I get a message like Abort:
ASSP is still running with process-ID: 2468 - (or delete file
d:/assp-v2/pid).
exception.log is filled with such lines.
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-17 Thread Wim Borghs
On 17 June 2010 11:19, Thomas Eckardt thomas.ecka...@thockar.com wrote:

 exception.log is filled with such lines.
 No other lines there?


I thought not, apparently there is one:

D:\assp-v2grep -v  Abort: ASSP is still running with process-ID: 
d:\assp-v2\exception.log
2010-Jun-14 15:39:40 Error: Worker_1: corrupted regexp program at
D:\assp-v2\assp.pl line 24210.

We were running version 2.0.2(1.1.11) back then:
2010-Jun-14 15:36:18 [startup] ASSP-professional version 2.0.2(1.1.11) (Perl
5.01) (on MSWin32) initializing
2010-Jun-14 15:40:47 [startup] ASSP-professional version 2.0.2(1.1.11) (Perl
5.01) (on MSWin32) initializing

The problems here started shortly before 2010-Jun-14 12:16:54
We were running version 2.0.2(1.1.08) until then, that version crashed,
assp.pl was replaced with version 2.0.2(1.1.11) and that crashed every 5
minutes or so... going back to version 2.0.2(1.1.08) solves it, version
2.0.2(1.1.09) also crashes here.
The exception.log file has a creation time of 2010-Jun-14 14:55:03 so that's
the first time that the pid file was still present I guess.
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-17 Thread Thomas Eckardt
2010-Jun-14 15:39:40 Error: Worker_1: corrupted regexp program at
D:\assp-v2\assp.pl line 24210.

What is the content of your 'WhiteRe' ?

Thomas



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On 17 June 2010 11:19, Thomas Eckardt thomas.ecka...@thockar.com wrote:

 exception.log is filled with such lines.
 No other lines there?


I thought not, apparently there is one:

D:\assp-v2grep -v  Abort: ASSP is still running with process-ID: 
d:\assp-v2\exception.log
2010-Jun-14 15:39:40 Error: Worker_1: corrupted regexp program at
D:\assp-v2\assp.pl line 24210.

We were running version 2.0.2(1.1.11) back then:
2010-Jun-14 15:36:18 [startup] ASSP-professional version 2.0.2(1.1.11) 
(Perl
5.01) (on MSWin32) initializing
2010-Jun-14 15:40:47 [startup] ASSP-professional version 2.0.2(1.1.11) 
(Perl
5.01) (on MSWin32) initializing

The problems here started shortly before 2010-Jun-14 12:16:54
We were running version 2.0.2(1.1.08) until then, that version crashed,
assp.pl was replaced with version 2.0.2(1.1.11) and that crashed every 5
minutes or so... going back to version 2.0.2(1.1.08) solves it, version
2.0.2(1.1.09) also crashes here.
The exception.log file has a creation time of 2010-Jun-14 14:55:03 so 
that's
the first time that the pid file was still present I guess.
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-17 Thread Wim Borghs
On 17 June 2010 12:29, Wim Borghs wim.bor...@gmail.com wrote:

 The problems here started shortly before 2010-Jun-14 12:16:54


Apparently an other issue started around that time.
In mails we send out, there is an extra line in the headers consisting of
only ?UTF-8?Q??
This line is the last line of the headers appearing right before the blank
line that separates the headers from the body.
Some servers don't accept these mails because of invalid mail header of
course.
Going back to an older version doesn't fix this. If I send the mail without
passing through assp the mail doesn't get the extra line...
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-16 Thread Wim Borghs
On 15 June 2010 13:01, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:

  development versions of ASSP starting from version 2.0.2(1.1.09)
  crash regularly with us also. version 2.0.2(1.1.08) runs fine.
  I usually see no error logged on the console. At one time I did
  see a out of memory error.

 Are you using berkeleyDB for the penaltybox data ?


After disabling useBerkeleyDB ASSP version 2.0.2(1.1.11) runs fine.
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-16 Thread GrayHat
 
  development versions of ASSP starting from version 2.0.2(1.1.09)
  crash regularly with us also. version 2.0.2(1.1.08) runs fine.
  I usually see no error logged on the console. At one time I did
  see a out of memory error.
 
 Are you using berkeleyDB for the penaltybox data ?

 After disabling useBerkeleyDB ASSP version 2.0.2(1.1.11) runs fine.

Yeah, but then you'll have higher memory usage since in such a case
ASSP will use flatfiles and completely load them in RAM; I wasn't
suggesting to disable BerkeleyDB, just asking if you were using it,
see, there's an issue which Thomas is trying to solve related to the
shrinking of bdb files and which /may/ cause ASSP to slowdown
and/or crash; if that's the case, one may try the following:

stop assp

check the contents of the assp/pb folder

remove the bigger files (ensure to remove both the
bdb and the corresponding db file in couple)

delete the assp/tmpDB folder

start assp

the above is a temporary workaround which shouldn't be needed
anymore in a short while given that there's already a patch for it
which should be released in a while; the alternative is using a
different backend database like MySQL, MSSQL or the like
 


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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-16 Thread Wim Borghs
pbdb.white.db
On 16 June 2010 10:11, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:

   development versions of ASSP starting from version 2.0.2(1.1.09)
   crash regularly with us also. version 2.0.2(1.1.08) runs fine.
   I usually see no error logged on the console. At one time I did
   see a out of memory error.

  Are you using berkeleyDB for the penaltybox data ?

  After disabling useBerkeleyDB ASSP version 2.0.2(1.1.11) runs fine.

 Yeah, but then you'll have higher memory usage since in such a case
 ASSP will use flatfiles and completely load them in RAM; I wasn't
 suggesting to disable BerkeleyDB, just asking if you were using it,


I was a bit hasty in my reply. I should have added that I'm actually not
using BerkeleyDB because the DB_File module is not installed. I'm using the
flat files. I don't have memory issues running this way...


 see, there's an issue which Thomas is trying to solve related to the
 shrinking of bdb files and which /may/ cause ASSP to slowdown
 and/or crash; if that's the case, one may try the following:

 stop assp

 check the contents of the assp/pb folder

 remove the bigger files (ensure to remove both the
 bdb and the corresponding db file in couple)


fyi:
pbdb.sb.db (418 kb), pbdb.black.db (256 kb), pbdb.white.db (104 kb)

delete the assp/tmpDB folder

 start assp

 the above is a temporary workaround which shouldn't be needed
 anymore in a short while given that there's already a patch for it
 which should be released in a while; the alternative is using a
 different backend database like MySQL, MSSQL or the like




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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-16 Thread Wim Borghs
On 16 June 2010 11:40, Thomas Eckardt thomas.ecka...@thockar.com wrote:

 I'm actually not
 using BerkeleyDB because the DB_File module is not installed


 ASSP uses BerkeleyDB engine version 4.5 or higher (recommended is 4.7.25),
 which requires BerkeleyDB.pm (0.42 is recommended) - NOT DB_File.pm -
 DB_File only supports BerkeleyDB version 1 and 2.


ah, okay, I have what is recommended:
2010-Jun-15 11:37:52 [init] DB_File module is not installed - DB_File
(Berkeley V1) database usage not available
2010-Jun-15 11:37:52 [init] BerkeleyDB module version 0.42 installed -
Berkeley database usage available
2010-Jun-15 11:37:52 [init] BerkeleyDB DB-version 4.7 / Berkeley DB 4.7.25:
(May 15, 2008) is installed

I did what GrayHat recommended but assp starts crashing again.
By the way, it also crashes with useBerkeleyDB enabled but useDB4IntCache
disabled.
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-16 Thread Wim Borghs
On 16 June 2010 09:54, Wim Borghs wim.bor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15 June 2010 13:01, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:

 Are you using berkeleyDB for the penaltybox data ?


 After disabling useBerkeleyDB ASSP version 2.0.2(1.1.11) runs fine.


Hm, that's not the case anymore. It still crashes with useBerkeleyDB
disabled. I'm going back to version 2.0.2(1.1.08) now...
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-15 Thread Wim Borghs
development versions of ASSP starting from version 2.0.2(1.1.09) crash
regularly with us also.
version 2.0.2(1.1.08) runs fine.
I usually see no error logged on the console. At one time I did see a out
of memory error.

On 10 June 2010 14:30, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:


 ASSP almost *regularly* crashes, logging the following @console

 Callback called exit at C:/Perl/site/lib/Email/MIME.pm line 355, FILE
 line 45.

 and the above happened quite OFTEN lately; now... a workaround
 (possibly followed by a fix) could be quite useful; I do love ASSP
 and I find it's one of the best spamfilters around, but if you want to
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-15 Thread GrayHat

 development versions of ASSP starting from version 2.0.2(1.1.09) 
 crash regularly with us also. version 2.0.2(1.1.08) runs fine.
 I usually see no error logged on the console. At one time I did 
 see a out of memory error.

Are you using berkeleyDB for the penaltybox data ?


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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Moffat
Are you running the latest stable release, or the dev release?

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On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:31 AM, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:

 
 ASSP almost *regularly* crashes, logging the following @console
 
 Callback called exit at C:/Perl/site/lib/Email/MIME.pm line 355, FILE
 line 45.
 
 and the above happened quite OFTEN lately; now... a workaround
 (possibly followed by a fix) could be quite useful; I do love ASSP
 and I find it's one of the best spamfilters around, but if you want to
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread GrayHat
 Are you running the latest stable release, or the dev release?

Version 2.0.2 (1.1.11); all modules up to date, platform win2003,
plenty of memory and disk space (so I don't think it's some
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Moffat
That's the dev version. It's not supposed to be professional. That why it's 
called a Developement version. The stable release is what you should be running 
in production if the dev bugs annoy you. 

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On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:58 AM, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:

 Are you running the latest stable release, or the dev release?
 
 Version 2.0.2 (1.1.11); all modules up to date, platform win2003,
 plenty of memory and disk space (so I don't think it's some
 kind of resources issue); activeperl version 5.10.1 build 1006
 
 
 
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread GrayHat
 That's the dev version. It's not supposed to be professional. That why
 it's called a Developement version. The stable release is what you
 should be running in production if the dev bugs annoy you. 

Steve... I /suspect/ I *do* know that; and I was reporting a possible
BUG so that hopefully the devs may have a look at it and FIX it; then,
if you didn't get it, no problem, but please, avoid posting such stuff
if you have nothing to add; at any rate I'm currently testing a code
fork from one of the devs and will see if it fixes the issue


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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Moffat
I was pointing out your use of the word  professional in relation to a dev 
version that no doubt has bugs. 

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On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:41 PM, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:

 That's the dev version. It's not supposed to be professional. That why
 it's called a Developement version. The stable release is what you
 should be running in production if the dev bugs annoy you. 
 
 Steve... I /suspect/ I *do* know that; and I was reporting a possible
 BUG so that hopefully the devs may have a look at it and FIX it; then,
 if you didn't get it, no problem, but please, avoid posting such stuff
 if you have nothing to add; at any rate I'm currently testing a code
 fork from one of the devs and will see if it fixes the issue
 
 
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread GrayHat
 I was pointing out your use of the word  professional 
 in relation to a dev version that no doubt has bugs.
 
Sure, but if you reread my sentence, I wrote if you
want to go pro and I meant that such bugs should
NOT affect whatever released version, a server
app like ASSP is should not randomly crash,
sure, s*it happens, but not through a bunch of
versions and w/o a fix :( - again, I do know I'm 
running a dev version and I know what it implies
I just hope that whatever new official release
won't be affected by such kind of issue



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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread Paul K. Dickson
Sounds like my old boss.

Me: I have the exchange 2003 test server cluster up.  I'm trying to test it
out.  Does anyone want to have their mailbox moved there to help me out?  I
put mine there a  week ago and have not had any problems

My boss: Sure!

1 week later...

Boss: Why isn't webmail working
me: oh.  I missed that.  I'll get on it
Boss: This is unacceptable!
me: This environment is in testing.  Some things may not work
Boss: You should have told me something may not work!
me: That's why you test things.. To see if they work, then fix the things
that don't.  Otherwise it wouldn't need tested.. It would be production.
AKA.. It's implied dumbass.
Boss: Boohh boohh boohh.. Hot air.. Booh booh booh.. Blugh blugh booh..
Babble babble, more hot air.. UNACEPTABLE!!!.


1 week later
Boss: I could have rung your neck for that!
Me: no response.. No reasoning with the unreasonable.
Boss: HOT AIR BALOON DEFLATING.







 From: Steve Moffat st...@optimum.bm
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 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:00:32 +
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 assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net
 Cc: ASSP development mailing list assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2
 
 That's the dev version. It's not supposed to be professional. That why it's
 called a Developement version. The stable release is what you should be
 running in production if the dev bugs annoy you.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:58 AM, GrayHat gray...@gmx.net wrote:
 
 Are you running the latest stable release, or the dev release?
 
 Version 2.0.2 (1.1.11); all modules up to date, platform win2003,
 plenty of memory and disk space (so I don't think it's some
 kind of resources issue); activeperl version 5.10.1 build 1006
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-10 2:25 PM, Paul K. Dickson wrote:
 Sounds like my old boss.
 
 Me: I have the exchange 2003 test server cluster up. I'm trying to 
 test it out. Does anyone want to have their mailbox moved there to
 help me out? I put mine there a week ago and have not had any
 problems
 
 My boss: Sure!
 
 1 week later...

Um... only an idiot would do initial testing of anything on anyone
in management, much less 'the boss'. :)

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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread Paul K. Dickson
You've got me there.. Gotta give you that one :D

What can I say.. It was 6 years ago and I was still a little wet behind the
ears.  Not to mention he had been in my job two years previous so I figured
he'd be ok to ask.  I didn't realize at the time that part of the becoming
management ritual is having a lobotomy.


 From: Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com
 Reply-To: ASSP development mailing list assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:36:54 -0400
 To: ASSP development mailing list assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2
 
 On 2010-06-10 2:25 PM, Paul K. Dickson wrote:
 Sounds like my old boss.
 
 Me: I have the exchange 2003 test server cluster up. I'm trying to
 test it out. Does anyone want to have their mailbox moved there to
 help me out? I put mine there a week ago and have not had any
 problems
 
 My boss: Sure!
 
 1 week later...
 
 Um... only an idiot would do initial testing of anything on anyone
 in management, much less 'the boss'. :)
 
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Re: [Assp-test] Further issues with v2

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-10 2:50 PM, Paul K. Dickson wrote:
 You've got me there.. Gotta give you that one :D
 
 What can I say.. It was 6 years ago and I was still a little wet 
 behind the ears. Not to mention he had been in my job two years
 previous so I figured he'd be ok to ask. I didn't realize at the time
 that part of the becoming management ritual is having a lobotomy.

I know, whats up with that... the sanest person can turn into a total
moron just by getting a promotion. So... in order to make more money, I
must become a moron... ?

Anyone see the movie Idiocracy?


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