[Asterisk-Users] Digits being dropping when dialing from certain analog phones

2004-09-26 Thread James Bean
FC2, Asterisk 1.0.0, Zaptel 1.0.0
TDM400P Port 1 FXS Port 4 FXO

Standard analogue handset plugged in with pstn line.

Problem:

I have 2 analog phones that I use, when plugged directly into pstn line
both phones work perfectly, dialing no issues. When I plug the handsets
into the TDM400P, one works perfectly the other drops random numbers.
Its like the tone is slightly different on the second handset and its
not picking up some numbers (12356 it seems). Is there a way to adjust
the tone detection, make it more sensitive?

Keys dialed from handset were

9 0418800185

I tried hitting the keys slowly as well as at my normal speed, all tones
are heard in the handset for all numbers.



Error in asterisk -vvvgc

-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/1-1'
-- Hungup 'Zap/1-1'
-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/1-1'
-- Executing Dial(Zap/1-1, Zap/g2/088008) in new stack
-- Called g2/088008
-- Zap/4-1 answered Zap/1-1
-- Attempting native bridge of Zap/1-1 and Zap/4-1
-- Hungup 'Zap/4-1'
  == Spawn extension (internal, 9088008, 1) exited non-zero on 'Zap/1-1'
-- Hungup 'Zap/1-1'
-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/1-1'
-- Executing Dial(Zap/1-1, Zap/g2/0488008) in new stack
-- Called g2/0488008
-- Zap/4-1 answered Zap/1-1
-- Attempting native bridge of Zap/1-1 and Zap/4-1
-- Hungup 'Zap/4-1'
  == Spawn extension (internal, 90488008, 1) exited non-zero on
'Zap/1-1'
-- Hungup 'Zap/1-1'



/etc/zaptel.conf

fxols=1
fxsls=4
Loadzone=au

/etc/zapata.conf

[channels]
context=default
usecallerid=yes
hidecallerid=no
callwaiting=no
usecallingpres=yes
callwaitingcallerid=yes
threewaycalling=yes
transfer=yes
cancallforward=yes
callreturn=yes
echocancel=yes
echocancelwhenbridged=yes
rxgain=0.0
txgain=0.0
group=1
signalling=fxo_ls
callgroup=1
pickupgroup=1
immediate=no
context=internal
busydetect=yes
callerid=James Bean690  ;assuming extension 690
mailbox=690 ;stutter tone for voicemail - you can
use an optional context here
transfer=yes
channel=1
group=2
signalling=fxs_ls
context=pstn
channel=4

/etc/asterisk/extensions.conf

[pstn]

exten = s,1,NoOp(Comment Only: Call from ${CALLERIDNUM}) ; Just put a
comment in the CLI for info.
exten = s,2,Dial(Zap/g1,45,t)  ;Dial the group=1 zap card mod above
exten = s,3,Hangup

[internal]
exten = i,1,Playback(invalid)
exten = i,2,Hangup
exten = t,1,Hangup

exten = 099,1,Echo ;simple echo test when you dial 099 on your
phone

exten = _9X.,1,Dial(Zap/g2/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _9X.,2,Congestion()


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Whoa.... I'm owned but found ??

2004-09-26 Thread shabanip
I get this warning on zap channels:

Sep 26 07:17:21 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (23)...
Sep 26 07:45:53 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (23)...
Sep 26 07:59:59 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (27)...
Sep 26 08:18:35 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (28)...
Sep 26 08:22:07 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (31)...
Sep 26 08:26:27 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (31)...
Sep 26 08:27:20 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (30)...
Sep 26 08:44:13 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (24)...
Sep 26 09:52:18 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (26)...
Sep 26 10:14:26 WARNING[1102232496]: chan_zap.c:5903 do_monitor: Whoa 
I'm owned but found (24)...


 Don't cross messages between lists.

 Anyway, be more specific.

   - Original Message -
   From: shabanip
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 12:02 PM
   Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Whoa I'm owned but found ??


   I get this message at CLI.
   what does it mean?

   - shabanip


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[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - WellGate 3502a : ulaw/alaw only?

2004-09-26 Thread Vahan Yerkanian
Greetings,
I'm running latest * from CVS on FreeBSD 4.10 box. We've just bought 
several WellGate 3502A FXSes to play with till welltech guys fix the 
3504a's registration bug.

So far everything is working as expected, except the fact only ulaw and 
alaw codecs work with *. If I add allow=gsm or allow=g723.1 in FXS's 
ports entries in the sip.conf, no voice is heard from both sides after 
the call is established.

Am I missing something here? WellTech claims to support even g729, and I 
see those in the embedded website's codec priority page.

Is there something more to be done to enable g723.1/gsm codecs?
P.S. 3502A is also affected by the registration bug, if you connect a 
phone to TEL2 jack and call someone, everything goes by the TEL1's 
account/password...

regards,
Vahan Yerkanian
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[Asterisk-Users] UK callerid Patch for the latest CVS

2004-09-26 Thread Vassilis Konstantinou
Hello!
Is it possible for somebody to email me the patch for the UK callerid (for 
the X100P cards). I know that the TDM100P patches are included but .. I 
still use the X100Ps

Many thanks
Vassilis
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] * works, but after a few seconds audio always stops.

2004-09-26 Thread Michael Loftis

--On Sunday, September 26, 2004 02:29 +0200 Philipp von Klitzing 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FAQ: Turn of silence suppression in X-Lite by setting Transmit silence
to YES (in AUDIO settings).
AHA!  That's it!  Works now.  Not sure what silence suppression has to do 
with all but it works now.

Tnx much!
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[Asterisk-Users] Got SIP response 400 Bad Request ; Cisco 7940 inbound station/station call problem.

2004-09-26 Thread Mark Brad








Hello Everyone,



Ive been struggling with this issue for about two
days; hopefully its something trivial that has been overlooked.



Basically, I have a Cisco 7940 handset running the SIP 7.1
firmware, which can place outbound calls to any destination, however

It can not receive calls from hard/soft phones on the
network.



Inbound calls through the IVR (Zap channel) are correctly
routed, phone rings, no problems there.



All phones on the network are using the G711u codec, are on
RFC1918 address space, and do not traverse a firewall.



For the life of me, I cant seem to find a logical
answer for this one. Everything appears to be properly configured.



Ive even tried with canreinvite=yes to
see if the phones can talk directly to each other with the same results.



Actual debugging output:



-- Executing Dial(SIP/4002-1c9e,
SIP/2000|20) in new stack

-- Called 2000

-- Got SIP response 400 Bad Request back from
192.168.1.100

== No one is available to answer at this time



Again, the problem is isolated to one specific handset,
everything else operates perfectly.



Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated, thank
you!



Regards,



Mark Brad

Global ID Systems






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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - WellGate 3502a : ulaw/alaw only?

2004-09-26 Thread Dinesh Nair
On 26/09/2004 15:41 Vahan Yerkanian said the following:
I'm running latest * from CVS on FreeBSD 4.10 box. We've just bought 
several WellGate 3502A FXSes to play with till welltech guys fix the 
3504a's registration bug.
welltech still hasn't responded to my complaint to them regarding their SIP 
registration process. in the interim however, i've patched asterisk 1.0 to 
handle this wellgate special case. i'll be emailling the patch over to you 
in a separate email. i run asterisk (0.9.0 and 1.0) on freebsd 4.10 too.

alaw codecs work with *. If I add allow=gsm or allow=g723.1 in FXS's 
ports entries in the sip.conf, no voice is heard from both sides after 
the call is established.
i've seen the same. the wellgate's do not support the GSM codec and stock 
asterisk does not do g723.1. you'd need to only use ulaw or alaw for them. 
i've got this in my wellgate sip.conf entries:

disallow=all
allow=ulaw
allow=alaw
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] German Termination and DIDs

2004-09-26 Thread Roger Schreiter
Alfred Nurnberger schrieb:
Try sipgate.de.
They have free DIDs in many german citys and their rate into Germany is 
very affordable (aprx. $0.02 / min.)
...

Hi,
I'm sure, they won't anymore. For it were Sipgate and Nikotel,
who got those letters from RegTP, forbidding to give DIDs to
non-local subscribers.
Have a look at
http://voipliste.de/privat.html
for some voip providers! Most of them do offer local DID (to local)
users.
I assume, that some of them will soon offer local DIDs even from smaller
german cities - I don't think that Sipgate or Nikotel will be the first
offering smaller cities.
Roger.
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Re[2]: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - WellGate 3502a : ulaw/alaw only?

2004-09-26 Thread Danny Zak
Hello Dinesh,

my welltech does support g729 g723.1 and g711u and a.

It works like a charm here.

BUT; the registration problem still exists (even after using your rc)

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Sunday, September 26, 2004, 10:58:37 AM, you wrote:

DN On 26/09/2004 15:41 Vahan Yerkanian said the following:
 I'm running latest * from CVS on FreeBSD 4.10 box. We've just bought
 several WellGate 3502A FXSes to play with till welltech guys fix the
 3504a's registration bug.

DN welltech still hasn't responded to my complaint to them regarding their SIP
DN registration process. in the interim however, i've patched asterisk 1.0 to
DN handle this wellgate special case. i'll be emailling the patch over to you
DN in a separate email. i run asterisk (0.9.0 and 1.0) on freebsd 4.10 too.

 alaw codecs work with *. If I add allow=gsm or allow=g723.1 in FXS's
 ports entries in the sip.conf, no voice is heard from both sides after
 the call is established.

DN i've seen the same. the wellgate's do not support the GSM codec and stock
DN asterisk does not do g723.1. you'd need to only use ulaw or alaw for them.
DN i've got this in my wellgate sip.conf entries:

DN disallow=all
DN allow=ulaw
DN allow=alaw


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Move Over Asterisk - Ondo is Here. - Email from Brekeke Announcing their RTP Proxy

2004-09-26 Thread steve


On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, SeshKanuri wrote:

 Dear Valued OnDO users,

Huh??  I'm not an OnDO user!?

This is the ASTERISK list.

Steve

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[Asterisk-Users] spandsp

2004-09-26 Thread Graham Turner
have posted a while ago on issues of receiving faxes by an Asterisk host
using an x100p fxo interface attached to BT pstn

the asterisk installation is the cvs download as of 23/09/04

is anyone able to confirm that the rxfax / txfax application that seems to
be 'bundled' in thecvs download is the latest as per the www.opencall.org
site which i think is at 0.0.1k ??

TIA

GT

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Re[2]: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - WellGate 3502a : ulaw/alaw only?

2004-09-26 Thread Kiss Karoly
Hi,

Have some welltech devices myself, but after about one year of trials I
decided to throw them out ...
Even when you succeed in making it register it freezes after a random
amount of time, no matter what SW u use on it.

Regards,

Kiss Karoly

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Danny Zak wrote:

 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:22:43 +0200
 From: Danny Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dinesh Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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 Subject: Re[2]: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - WellGate 3502a : ulaw/alaw
 only?

 Hello Dinesh,

 my welltech does support g729 g723.1 and g711u and a.

 It works like a charm here.

 BUT; the registration problem still exists (even after using your rc)

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 Sunday, September 26, 2004, 10:58:37 AM, you wrote:

 DN On 26/09/2004 15:41 Vahan Yerkanian said the following:
  I'm running latest * from CVS on FreeBSD 4.10 box. We've just bought
  several WellGate 3502A FXSes to play with till welltech guys fix the
  3504a's registration bug.

 DN welltech still hasn't responded to my complaint to them regarding their SIP
 DN registration process. in the interim however, i've patched asterisk 1.0 to
 DN handle this wellgate special case. i'll be emailling the patch over to you
 DN in a separate email. i run asterisk (0.9.0 and 1.0) on freebsd 4.10 too.

  alaw codecs work with *. If I add allow=gsm or allow=g723.1 in FXS's
  ports entries in the sip.conf, no voice is heard from both sides after
  the call is established.

 DN i've seen the same. the wellgate's do not support the GSM codec and stock
 DN asterisk does not do g723.1. you'd need to only use ulaw or alaw for them.
 DN i've got this in my wellgate sip.conf entries:

 DN disallow=all
 DN allow=ulaw
 DN allow=alaw


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[Asterisk-Users] pthread problem

2004-09-26 Thread Muhammad Rully Sumbayak

Hi All,

I have successful compiled asterisk from CVS. But when I start it up, it
show an messages like this:

[chan_sip.so]Sep 26 13:29:35 WARNING[-1084308832]: loader.c:248
ast_load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_sip.so: undefined symbol:
__use_ast_pthread_create_instead__
Sep 26 13:29:35 WARNING[-1084308832]: loader.c:429 load_modules: Loading
module chan_sip.so failed!

I have search the archive but did not found the right answer. 
Please help me...

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spandsp

2004-09-26 Thread administrator tootai
Graham Turner a écrit :
have posted a while ago on issues of receiving faxes by an Asterisk host
using an x100p fxo interface attached to BT pstn
the asterisk installation is the cvs download as of 23/09/04
is anyone able to confirm that the rxfax / txfax application that seems to
be 'bundled' in thecvs download is the latest as per the www.opencall.org
site which i think is at 0.0.1k ??
 

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[Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Rodolfo Grave
Hi all.
I've been reading through Wi-Ki and at the extensions.conf file 
description (http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+extensions.conf)

The author says this:
One day, someone is going to write a proper scripting language for 
Asterisk that can understand a simpler, easier (and more traditional) 
scripting syntax. All it would need to do is translate the high level 
scripting code into the low level stuff that is required here. But 
until then, we have to live with what we've got.

I just haven't use asterisk enough yet, so I wont be able to make the 
specifications, but I'm sure with the help of the community and if there 
are enough people needing/wating this, we can make a good language 
specification. Personally I can and will make the compiler from the 
higher level to current language, and even maybe vice-versa. Just need 
the specification of both languages and support of the comunity (if no 
one needs this it is not worthy).

Please, send oppinions and ideas about this.
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[Asterisk-Users] voicemail /w asterisk - voicemail() problems

2004-09-26 Thread Vahan Yerkanian
I've setup the voicemail that auths against the mysql db. Now, 
everything works ok, except voicemail() calls fail with

Sep 26 18:09:34 WARNING[157070336]: app_voicemail.c:1517 
leave_voicemail: No entry in voicemail config file for ''

all my users are in 'sip' voicemail context, but adding context to it: 
voicemail(@sip) doesn't help.. while if I put a vmbox # to it, it works 
that way: voicemail([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

here is my voicemail.conf:
--
[general]
format=wav|gsm
serveremail=asterisk
attach=yes
maxmessage=180
maxgreet=60
skipms=3000
maxsilence=10
silencethreshold=128
maxlogins=3
dbname = asteriskcdrdb  ; Name of database in your Mysql server
dbhost = localhost  ; Hostname of server
dbuser = astintvm   ; Username in MySQL
dbpass = x  ; Password for user in MySQL
and part of my extensions.conf:
---
exten = 450,1,Answer
exten = 450,2,Wait(1)
exten = 450,3,VoicemailMain(@sip)
exten = 450,4,Wait(1)
exten = 450,5,Hangup
exten = 451,1,Answer
exten = 451,2,Wait(1)
exten = 451,3,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])
exten = 451,4,Wait(1)
exten = 451,5,Hangup
exten = 452,1,Answer
exten = 452,2,Zapateller
exten = 452,3,Voicemail()
exten = 452,4,Wait(1)
exten = 452,5,Hangup
The last extension, 452, is the one that doesn't work.
regards,
Vahan
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.0 RPMS RH73 and RH9

2004-09-26 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, Florin Andrei wrote:

 On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 05:47, Greg Boehnlein wrote:
 
  Anyone else having the problems that Gary is reporting?
 
 Um, well, not really. I'm rebuilding your package on Fedora 2 (kernel
 2.6) and i had to add a linux 26 at the end of the make line,
 otherwise all kinds of weird things happened.

I think I'll add a kernel version check to it and either force a make or 
a make linux26 based on what is running.

 Also, in /etc/init.d/zaptel, insmod doesn't work properly. It has to
 be replaced with modprobe. I have no idea why.
 
 There are some other changes i've made to the initialization scripts, to
 bring them closer to Red Hat best practices. I'll probably email you
 privately when i'm closer to a stable state.

On the init.d front, Mark committed my much improved redhat init scripts 
to CVS last month, but I haven't updated the RPMS to use them.
 
 Anyway, the RPMs are way cool! :-) Thanks,

You are welcome. Keep in mind that any changes that you make should take 
into account the original design goal, which is to have a universal .spec 
file for all versions of RedHat from 7.3 onward. I.E. please try to keep 
distro specific changes defined ONLY for that distro and not globally 
applied to everything.

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Re[3]: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - WellGate 3502a : ulaw/alaw only?

2004-09-26 Thread Danny Zak
Hello Kiss,

well we didn't have this kind of errors .. YET :)



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KK Hi,

KK Have some welltech devices myself, but after about one year of trials I
KK decided to throw them out ...
KK Even when you succeed in making it register it freezes after a random
KK amount of time, no matter what SW u use on it.

KK Regards,

KK Kiss Karoly

KK On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Danny Zak wrote:

 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:22:43 +0200
 From: Danny Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dinesh Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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 Subject: Re[2]: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - WellGate 3502a : ulaw/alaw
 only?

 Hello Dinesh,

 my welltech does support g729 g723.1 and g711u and a.

 It works like a charm here.

 BUT; the registration problem still exists (even after using your rc)

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 Sunday, September 26, 2004, 10:58:37 AM, you wrote:

 DN On 26/09/2004 15:41 Vahan Yerkanian said the following:
  I'm running latest * from CVS on FreeBSD 4.10 box. We've just bought
  several WellGate 3502A FXSes to play with till welltech guys fix the
  3504a's registration bug.

 DN welltech still hasn't responded to my complaint to them regarding their SIP
 DN registration process. in the interim however, i've patched asterisk 1.0 to
 DN handle this wellgate special case. i'll be emailling the patch over to you
 DN in a separate email. i run asterisk (0.9.0 and 1.0) on freebsd 4.10 too.

  alaw codecs work with *. If I add allow=gsm or allow=g723.1 in FXS's
  ports entries in the sip.conf, no voice is heard from both sides after
  the call is established.

 DN i've seen the same. the wellgate's do not support the GSM codec and stock
 DN asterisk does not do g723.1. you'd need to only use ulaw or alaw for them.
 DN i've got this in my wellgate sip.conf entries:

 DN disallow=all
 DN allow=ulaw
 DN allow=alaw


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[Asterisk-Users] HELP with IAXy provisioning

2004-09-26 Thread Taemoor Abbasi
Hi,
I am trying to configure a basic Asterisk setup with Asterisk running
on Linux and a GS 102 phone and an analogue phone connected (through
IAXY adaptor) to Asterisk.

I am stuck at the step of provisioning the IAXy adaptor. I will
quickly give an overview of my setup.
I installed Redhat 9, got the latest version of Asterisk (not 1.0)
from the CVS and installed it successfully. I did not install the DHCP
server on Linux earlier, but from an updated version of the IAXY
installation guide, I read that:

Q: My IAXy never gets an IP from the DHCP server?
A: Make sure your /etc/dhcpd.conf is similar to the following:
authoritative; # Declare authority
server-identifier mydhcp; # An identifier
option domain-name mydomain.net; # My domain
option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; # The IP of my Master DNS
192.168.0.2; # The IP of my Slave DNS
ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
subnet 192.168.0.128 netmask 255.255.255.192 { # Subnet/Netmask Served
range dynamic-bootp 192.168.0.139 192.168.0.189; # A range of IPs
option routers 192.168.0.129; # The IP of your router
}

So I am assuming that my Linux installation needs the DHCP server
properly configured too.

2. Can anyone suggest IP, subnet mask, gateway settings for the linux
machine. As my machine is stand alone (not on any network), I think I
can keep whatever settings are working for someone else. Also if
someone can provide a working copy of /etc/dhcpd.conf and
iaxy.conf.sample files.

PS: I downloaded the latest iaxyprov tool using the CVS. I noticed
when I ran the make command I got ./iaxyprov executable rather than
./provision as mentioned in the IAXy installation guide. Is this an
updated version? and does it work fine?

any HELP in this regard would be highly appreciated!

Thanks,
T
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[Asterisk-Users] spandsp patch help

2004-09-26 Thread Rich Adamson

I've installed spandsp-0.0.1k on a RHv9 box with CVS-HEAD-09/19/04 and
compiled the libraries just fine. Having a problem with patching the
asterisk/apps Makefile however. The patch attempt results in:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] apps]# patch Makefile.patch
patching file Makefile
Hunk #1 FAILED at 35.
Hunk #2 FAILED at 68.
2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej
[EMAIL PROTECTED] apps]# 

Am I doing something wrong here? (The Makefile.patch is dated 3/16/04
from the www.opencall.org site.)

Patching the Makefile by hand followed by 'make clean' and 'make install'
results in:
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/asterisk/apps'
Makefile:75: *** missing separator.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk/apps'
make: *** [depend] Error 1

Where have I gone wrong with this?

Rich


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] * works, but after a few seconds audio always stops.

2004-09-26 Thread Lyle Giese
Transmit silence = no tells the client not to send anything until it has
some audio to send.  The other end is dropping the connection because it
thinks the client has lost it's connection.

Lyle

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  FAQ: Turn of silence suppression in X-Lite by setting Transmit silence
  to YES (in AUDIO settings).

 AHA!  That's it!  Works now.  Not sure what silence suppression has to do
 with all but it works now.

 Tnx much!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 15:03:58 +0200, Rodolfo Grave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 but I'm sure with the help of the community and if there
 are enough people needing/wating this, we can make a good language
 specification. Personally I can and will make the compiler from the
 higher level to current language, and even maybe vice-versa. Just need
 the specification of both languages and support of the comunity (if no
 one needs this it is not worthy).

If you want to build a strong house, you need a solid fundament. I
don't think the current configuration language is a good fundament to
build upon.

We would be well advised to first build that solid fundament before
thinking about higher level languages.

So how about a discussion to give Asterisk an XML based configuration as a base.

For backwards compatibility, the existing config language could then
sit on top of the XML as one alternative amongst others.

rgds
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[Asterisk-Users] Proper Syntax

2004-09-26 Thread Henry Devito








I set up the pilot number to voicemail to be 777. When a user calls 777 the voicemail answers
and asks for mailbox, then password. Is
there a way for the Voicemail to read what extension they are calling from and
just ask for the password? I have a
person complaining because they have to enter their mailbox number every time
they check their voicemail and the old pbx didnt ask for it. 



I thought I saw this on a post a while ago, but of course
now that I need it I cant find it.



Thank you



Henry












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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Queue and Agent functionality

2004-09-26 Thread Nicolás Gudiño
Hello,

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:49:35 -0400, Robert Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
[snip] 
  4. If a caller empties a handled queue (active agents) with
  no callers, the caller will still hear messages (you are
  first in queue, etc.).  This should not occur.  Someone
  posted a 2-line patch on -dev list recently to fix this issue.
  
 The patch works for us.  I am assuming this will end up in CVS
 soon.

If  there is really an interest for this tiny patch I can post it to
bugs.digium.com today.  I don't know if Mark's or the author of the
queues position announcements are ok with it..

Regards,

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Proper Syntax

2004-09-26 Thread Bruce Komito
exten = 777,1,VoicemailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Bruce Komito
High Sierra Networks, Inc.
www.servers-r-us.com
(775) 236-5815


On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Henry Devito wrote:

 I set up the pilot number to voicemail to be 777.  When a user calls 777 the
 voicemail answers and asks for mailbox, then password.  Is there a way for
 the Voicemail to read what extension they are calling from and just ask for
 the password?  I have a person complaining because they have to enter their
 mailbox number every time they check their voicemail and the old pbx
 didn't ask for it.

 I thought I saw this on a post a while ago, but of course now that I need it
 I can't find it.

 Thank you

 Henry





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] voicemail /w asterisk - voicemail() problems

2004-09-26 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
That is because it is a required argument.
http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+VoiceMail

And you can see the difference from voicemailmain():
http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+VoicemailMain

quote who=Vahan Yerkanian
 all my users are in 'sip' voicemail context, but adding context to it:
 voicemail(@sip) doesn't help.. while if I put a vmbox # to it, it
 works that way: voicemail([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Patrick
On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 17:18, Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote:
[snip]
 So how about a discussion to give Asterisk an XML based configuration as a base.
 
 For backwards compatibility, the existing config language could then
 sit on top of the XML as one alternative amongst others.

I think this was briefly discussed at Astricon and Mark(?) mentioned
that XML was good for a lot things but not for *'s config.

Regards,
Patrick

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Transferring Calls

2004-09-26 Thread shabanip
I have the same problem and
suppose that by some works on a new application similar to
parkandannounce app. it should be done.
- shabanip
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From: Alex Forrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:43 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Transferring Calls


We have set up an IP telephoney system hosted by Asterisk and its working 
pretty well. We primarily use SIP and hardware IP phones. We have the 
ability to transfer calls to another SIP phone using either the Transfer 
button on the phone (these phones are Grandstream BudgeTone 100s) or using 
the # key (the T/t flag must be set in the Dial command in asterisk for 
this way to work).

Both methods seem similar; you enter the number and it transfers. The 
problems arise when the phone that it is transfered to is Busy or there is 
no answer: Asterisk just hangs up. Instead of this behaviour, we would 
like it to return the call to the person that transfered it.

Alternativley, it could just do a 3 way call or something until the 
original person hangs up?

I can't believe there is no way to achieve this. I have looked all over 
the internet but I can't find anything about this.

From an Asterisk context point of view, the transfered call looks like a 
new call, and as far as i can see there is no way to differentiate between 
a new call and a transferred one. I know asterisk can tell the difference 
because the phone sends a REFER datagram to initate the transfer.

Any help would be really appreciated
Thanks,
Alex Forrow
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[Asterisk-Users] Looking for a commercial version of an IAX2 Softphone

2004-09-26 Thread E Samuels
Hello All,

I have been looking for a  commercial version of an IAX2 Softphone for
Windows but the ones I have came across (i.e. Iaxcomm, Iaxphone, Diax) do
not seem to have an updated version since April 2004 in some cases. 

We looked at Firefly but we sent emails to Virbiage/Freshtel with questions
and could never get a response from them.

Has anyone got any recommendations for commercial version an IAX2 softphone
that we could test?

Thanks in Advance


Errol


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Looking for a commercial version of an IAX2 Softphone

2004-09-26 Thread William Suffill
Depending on your needs I don't know if you will find 1 that used IAX2
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Looking for a commercial version of an IAX2 Softphone

2004-09-26 Thread William Suffill
Sorry about that cut off . Like I was saying I'm not sure if you will
find once advanced enough  using IAX2 currently. Firefly was the most
evolved when I too was looking but their oem terms weren't exactly
what I wanted to spend given the fact that I probably would be going
hardphones eventually.

Depending on your need IAXPhone isn't bad for windows. Iaxcomm is my
preference for cross platform. Perhaps it will take modifying an open
source client and adding new features for this area to progress.

-- William
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What type of PRI setup is best

2004-09-26 Thread Alfred Nurnberger





NI-2 gives you the best set of available features (ie.e CNAM callerid)
and is my preferred choice for our PRI setups.

Alfred.

Christopher Jacob wrote:

  I am having my colo set up 2 PRI's for my new asterisk implementation. They
asked the following...


##SNIP##
What type (NI2, NTI, 4ESS, or 5ESS) and whether they want to be USER or
NETWORK.  

If the equipment is flexible, NI2, with us as NETWORK is preferred.
##SNIP##

We are using a digium quad span T1 card. What is the recommended setup?

Thanks,

Chris

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Jay Milk
XML isn't the magic answer to all questions.  The configuration
database for Asterisk is relatively flat while XML supports
hierarchical data much better.  Asterisk's current config file are
better suited to the task than XML inherently could be.

If the original poster is still interested writing a preprocessor for
asterisks config, I'd like to see a syntax for extensions.conf that's
easier to maintain, such as:

[context]
exten = _1xxx
:DigitTimeOut(10)
:ResponseTimeOut(20)
BackHere:Answer
:Read(callto,pls-entr-num-uwish2-call,10)
:Read(callfrom,enter-phone-number10,10)
:SetCIDNum(${callfrom})
:Dial(IAX2/${IAXFREE}/1${callto},40):Failed
:Hangup
Failed:Play(try-again)
Goto(BackHere)

Eliminating the need to specify (and keep track of) priorities would
make changes to extensions.conf much easier to implement.

 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 10:19 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level 
 configuration language
 
 
 On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 15:03:58 +0200, Rodolfo Grave 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  but I'm sure with the help of the community and if there
  are enough people needing/wating this, we can make a good language 
  specification. Personally I can and will make the compiler from the 
  higher level to current language, and even maybe 
 vice-versa. Just need 
  the specification of both languages and support of the 
 comunity (if no 
  one needs this it is not worthy).
 
 If you want to build a strong house, you need a solid 
 fundament. I don't think the current configuration language 
 is a good fundament to build upon.
 
 We would be well advised to first build that solid fundament 
 before thinking about higher level languages.
 
 So how about a discussion to give Asterisk an XML based 
 configuration as a base.
 
 For backwards compatibility, the existing config language 
 could then sit on top of the XML as one alternative amongst others.
 
 rgds
 benjk

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.0 RPMS RH73 and RH9

2004-09-26 Thread John Bohman
Greg let me know where the new RPM is so I can update my system as it's
still down... 
Thankfully it wasn't my production machine..
Thanks again..
John B. 

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.0 RPMS RH73 and RH9

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, Florin Andrei wrote:

 On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 05:47, Greg Boehnlein wrote:
 
  Anyone else having the problems that Gary is reporting?
 
 Um, well, not really. I'm rebuilding your package on Fedora 2 (kernel
 2.6) and i had to add a linux 26 at the end of the make line, 
 otherwise all kinds of weird things happened.

I think I'll add a kernel version check to it and either force a make or a
make linux26 based on what is running.

 Also, in /etc/init.d/zaptel, insmod doesn't work properly. It has to 
 be replaced with modprobe. I have no idea why.
 
 There are some other changes i've made to the initialization scripts, 
 to bring them closer to Red Hat best practices. I'll probably email 
 you privately when i'm closer to a stable state.

On the init.d front, Mark committed my much improved redhat init scripts to
CVS last month, but I haven't updated the RPMS to use them.
 
 Anyway, the RPMs are way cool! :-) Thanks,

You are welcome. Keep in mind that any changes that you make should take
into account the original design goal, which is to have a universal .spec
file for all versions of RedHat from 7.3 onward. I.E. please try to keep
distro specific changes defined ONLY for that distro and not globally
applied to everything.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Proper Syntax

2004-09-26 Thread Vahan Yerkanian
Henry,
exten = 451,1,Answer
exten = 451,2,Wait(1)
exten = 451,3,VoiceMailMain([EMAIL PROTECTED])
exten = 451,4,Wait(1)
exten = 451,5,Hangup
is what you're looking for.
VoiceMailMain(${CALLERIDNUM}) might be enough if you're not storing your 
voicemailboxes in mysql

regards,
Vahan
Henry Devito wrote:
I set up the pilot number to voicemail to be 777.  When a user calls 777 
the voicemail answers and asks for mailbox, then password.  Is there a 
way for the Voicemail to read what extension they are calling from and 
just ask for the password?  I have a person complaining because they 
have to enter their mailbox number every time they check their voicemail 
and the old pbx didnt ask for it.

 

I thought I saw this on a post a while ago, but of course now that I 
need it I cant find it.

 

Thank you
 

Henry
 

 

 


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Looking for a commercial version of an IAX2Softphone

2004-09-26 Thread E Samuels
Hi William,

Most my users will be Windows based.  

My problem is that I am not a developer so I am unable to modify an open
source client.  Iaxcomm and Iaxphone only seem to support GSM but it would
be nice to have support for iLBC as well.

All I really need is to have the color scheme of the skin changed and a few
buttons working etc but I would want the most recent version.

If anyone wants to contact me off-list to discuss further please feel free.

Regards,


Errol

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IAX2Softphone

Sorry about that cut off . Like I was saying I'm not sure if you will
find once advanced enough  using IAX2 currently. Firefly was the most
evolved when I too was looking but their oem terms weren't exactly
what I wanted to spend given the fact that I probably would be going
hardphones eventually.

Depending on your need IAXPhone isn't bad for windows. Iaxcomm is my
preference for cross platform. Perhaps it will take modifying an open
source client and adding new features for this area to progress.

-- William
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Looking for a commercial version of an IAX2Softphone

2004-09-26 Thread Michael Workman
Yes We have one... Its going to be released in October... We are in middle
of Moving so once we move and get things settled we will be going online

Unlike the diax and iaxcom and iaxphone ours is using DirectSound and has
many more abilities.

We are releasing software for our services but we plan on releasing a
limited version that just does IAX2 for Asterisk users


 

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IAX2Softphone

Hello All,

I have been looking for a  commercial version of an IAX2 Softphone for
Windows but the ones I have came across (i.e. Iaxcomm, Iaxphone, Diax) do
not seem to have an updated version since April 2004 in some cases. 

We looked at Firefly but we sent emails to Virbiage/Freshtel with questions
and could never get a response from them.

Has anyone got any recommendations for commercial version an IAX2 softphone
that we could test?

Thanks in Advance


Errol


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Looking for a commercial version of an IAX2Softphone

2004-09-26 Thread Atuc
At 19:19 26.09.2004, you wrote:
Yes We have one... Its going to be released in October... We are in middle
of Moving so once we move and get things settled we will be going online
Unlike the diax and iaxcom and iaxphone ours is using DirectSound and has
many more abilities.
We are releasing software for our services but we plan on releasing a
limited version that just does IAX2 for Asterisk users
will the client be under an opensource licence?
alex 

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Looking for a commercial version of anIAX2Softphone

2004-09-26 Thread Michael Workman
Only the Asterisk IAX2 Part

 

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anIAX2Softphone

At 19:19 26.09.2004, you wrote:
Yes We have one... Its going to be released in October... We are in 
middle of Moving so once we move and get things settled we will be 
going online

Unlike the diax and iaxcom and iaxphone ours is using DirectSound and 
has many more abilities.

We are releasing software for our services but we plan on releasing a 
limited version that just does IAX2 for Asterisk users

will the client be under an opensource licence?

alex 

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[Asterisk-Users] IP Phones ?

2004-09-26 Thread Paul Tyreman
Hi guys,

I know this isn't strictly about Asterisk, but it is related...

I am looking to buy a few IP phones, but I don't have a huge budged (hence
why I love Asterisk, its amazing and free !), so I was wondering if anyone
knew where I could get some cheap IP Phones ?

Ideally they should be no more then about £50 ($90).

Thanks, Paul.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phones ?

2004-09-26 Thread Marconi Rivello
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:04:38 +0100, Paul Tyreman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I know this isn't strictly about Asterisk, but it is related...
 
 I am looking to buy a few IP phones, but I don't have a huge budged (hence
 why I love Asterisk, its amazing and free !), so I was wondering if anyone
 knew where I could get some cheap IP Phones ?
 
 Ideally they should be no more then about £50 ($90).
 
 Thanks, Paul.

The cheapest I found was the grandstream budgetone. USD 65. I'm also
interested in cheap IP phones, so any news would be appreciated.

Marconi.
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[Asterisk-Users] How Do I configure zaptel for PRI in

2004-09-26 Thread Tom Wish
I have a strange question.  I am new to * and have it up and running for our 
office phones.  We run a small dialer to call clients and remind them of 
ordership dates etc.  I would like to have * take the calls from it and send 
them through a voip connection.

We have a digium quad port t1 card.  Are voip is from a 100t eth0.
The dialer is transmiting ans sf. directly to the t1.
Is it possible to plug the dialers t1 connection into the digium card and 
have it translate for voip?

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[Asterisk-Users] Digium and mailing lists

2004-09-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
I was somewhat concerned reading Mark's posting earlier today.
Obviously, things are very bad in the US at the moment.  Their 
Government even deported Cat Stevens the other day (check 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3686992.stm ).

Clearly, given the fact that Digium contributes so much to Asterisk, 
they shouldn't be forced to risk their company's future by hosting these 
mailing lists in such an unstable environment where they could get sued 
for any ridiculous reason.  Even an unjustified, ambit claim could 
generate huge defence costs on Digium's part, and cripple their ability 
to contribute to Asterisk.

Therefore, it seems to be in the best interests of Asterisk's `security' 
to have the mailing lists hosted by someone other than Digium and maybe 
in a country that doesn't prohibit freedom of expression.

I would certainly be willing to organise hosting through another company 
that wouldn't be at risk from vexatious legal claims.  This would allow 
genuinely open discussion on the lists and would mean that no messages 
would need to be censored from the archives.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium and mailing lists

2004-09-26 Thread steve


On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Daniel Pocock wrote:

 Therefore, it seems to be in the best interests of Asterisk's `security' 
 to have the mailing lists hosted by someone other than Digium and maybe 
 in a country that doesn't prohibit freedom of expression.

Amusing bit of stirring there.

But, PLEASE, lets pass on the transatlantic flamewar!?

Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spandsp

2004-09-26 Thread Graham Turner
Steve, ? Daniel thanks for reply posts

the location i download from is as per technote on * installation;

export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/cvsroot

prior to the last download i had to manually install the rxfax / txfax
applications from opencall.org

after latest download rxFAX / txfax are loaded ??

assuming this is latest version of spandsp applications do you have any
views on how to proceed with the debug of the failed fax receipt. ??

thanks for your help

GT

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 Graham Turner wrote:

 have posted a while ago on issues of receiving faxes by an Asterisk host
 using an x100p fxo interface attached to BT pstn
 
 the asterisk installation is the cvs download as of 23/09/04
 
 is anyone able to confirm that the rxfax / txfax application that seems
to
 be 'bundled' in thecvs download is the latest as per the www.opencall.org
 site which i think is at 0.0.1k ??
 
 TIA
 
 GT
 
 
 Which CVS download are you refering to? rxfax and txfax aren't in
 Digium's CVS as far as I know.

 Regards,
 Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phones ?

2004-09-26 Thread Jonathan Augenstine
Not the cheapest ($75-80) but they look interesting.
http://ipphone.eezeephone.com/
Jonathan
At 03:10 PM 9/26/2004 -0300, you wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:04:38 +0100, Paul Tyreman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I know this isn't strictly about Asterisk, but it is related...

 I am looking to buy a few IP phones, but I don't have a huge budged (hence
 why I love Asterisk, its amazing and free !), so I was wondering if anyone
 knew where I could get some cheap IP Phones ?

 Ideally they should be no more then about £50 ($90).

 Thanks, Paul.
The cheapest I found was the grandstream budgetone. USD 65. I'm also
interested in cheap IP phones, so any news would be appreciated.
Marconi.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium and mailing lists

2004-09-26 Thread Jonathan Augenstine
Another solution would be to keep the discussions on topic and open up a 
separate mailing list for people interested in open discussions.

Jonathan
At 07:17 PM 9/26/2004 +0100, you wrote:
I was somewhat concerned reading Mark's posting earlier today.
Obviously, things are very bad in the US at the moment.  Their Government 
even deported Cat Stevens the other day (check 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3686992.stm ).

Clearly, given the fact that Digium contributes so much to Asterisk, they 
shouldn't be forced to risk their company's future by hosting these 
mailing lists in such an unstable environment where they could get sued 
for any ridiculous reason.  Even an unjustified, ambit claim could 
generate huge defence costs on Digium's part, and cripple their ability to 
contribute to Asterisk.

Therefore, it seems to be in the best interests of Asterisk's `security' 
to have the mailing lists hosted by someone other than Digium and maybe in 
a country that doesn't prohibit freedom of expression.

I would certainly be willing to organise hosting through another company 
that wouldn't be at risk from vexatious legal claims.  This would allow 
genuinely open discussion on the lists and would mean that no messages 
would need to be censored from the archives.


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[Asterisk-Users] spandsp

2004-09-26 Thread Danny Zak
Dear;

regarding the details that i found on the site about spandsp; is it
correct to assume the following ?

+ spandsp will only work with a card that is located in the * box?

therefore

will my welltech or any other voip fxo adapter support FAX ( i know it
does t.38)

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My current situation is that i got a faxserver running in my old pbx
situation; i need to find a way to replace the whole pbx with a * box;
and need to fwd a certain MSN to my fax server, OR just have the * box
handle the incomming fax.

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[Asterisk-Users] iLBC modes

2004-09-26 Thread Michael Graves
I understand that the iLBC codec supports a variety of operative modes incluing
a wideband mode. This could be useful in improving call quality over other
codecs, say GSM, but retaining the iLBC strength in packet loss recovery. How do
I control the codec to establish the compression settings on my * server?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium and mailing lists

2004-09-26 Thread Steve Totaro
I agree with the mailing list part, but things arent very bad in the USA.

Yusuf Islam was denied entry, not deported.  I am sure there is more to this
story than is being told or possibly ever will be told.  He is not a US
citizen and can be denied entry for any reason or suspicion.  Please do not
spill your feelings about the USA onto this mailing list while trying to
mask them behind protecting Digium.

Thanks,
Steve
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 I was somewhat concerned reading Mark's posting earlier today.

 Obviously, things are very bad in the US at the moment.  Their
 Government even deported Cat Stevens the other day (check
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3686992.stm ).

 Clearly, given the fact that Digium contributes so much to Asterisk,
 they shouldn't be forced to risk their company's future by hosting these
 mailing lists in such an unstable environment where they could get sued
 for any ridiculous reason.  Even an unjustified, ambit claim could
 generate huge defence costs on Digium's part, and cripple their ability
 to contribute to Asterisk.

 Therefore, it seems to be in the best interests of Asterisk's `security'
 to have the mailing lists hosted by someone other than Digium and maybe
 in a country that doesn't prohibit freedom of expression.

 I would certainly be willing to organise hosting through another company
 that wouldn't be at risk from vexatious legal claims.  This would allow
 genuinely open discussion on the lists and would mean that no messages
 would need to be censored from the archives.



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[Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Simple Manager Proxy

2004-09-26 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, David Troy wrote:
 
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 I had a need for a much simpler proxy than his op_server.pl; to meet my 
 need I re-worked and simplified his code.  See below for this simplified 
 proxy:
 
 http://www.popvox.com/simpleproxy.pl

Hehehehe.. I mentioned this in the Developer's Session at Astricon.. that 
op_server.pl might form the basis for a middleware to interface many 
clients w/ Asterisk for all sorts of things.. presence, management etc..

See how great minds think alike? ;)

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[Asterisk-Users] DIAL tone

2004-09-26 Thread Gonzalo Gasca Meza


Hey group!
Could someone could help me configure a DIal plan in order that when i dial 9 at the beginning i receive DIAL TONE?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Dinesh Nair
On 27/09/2004 00:50 Jay Milk said the following:
Eliminating the need to specify (and keep track of) priorities would
make changes to extensions.conf much easier to implement.
or perhaps allow non-consecutive priorities.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spandsp

2004-09-26 Thread administrator tootai
Graham Turner a écrit :
Steve, ? Daniel thanks for reply posts
the location i download from is as per technote on * installation;
export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/cvsroot
 

This only for *, nothing todo with spandsp
prior to the last download i had to manually install the rxfax / txfax
applications from opencall.org
after latest download rxFAX / txfax are loaded ??
 

latest is 0.0.1k. So if you have it downloaded it's still the same.
assuming this is latest version of spandsp applications do you have any
views on how to proceed with the debug of the failed fax receipt. ??
 

If you tell what is your problem perhaps we can help you ;-) You should 
perhaps check the faq on opencall site to see if your problem is 
explained there

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Brian Capouch
Dinesh Nair wrote:
On 27/09/2004 00:50 Jay Milk said the following:
Eliminating the need to specify (and keep track of) priorities would
make changes to extensions.conf much easier to implement.

or perhaps allow non-consecutive priorities.
After this topic was discussed a bit at the developer's confab, I got to 
thinking about what a great feature that would be.

Renumbering priorities is a sadly common task for me in my somewhat 
chaotic config environment, and having a way to sneak in actions in 
between existing ones would be a major win.

Of course, the problem of the hard-coded priority + 101 situation is 
problematical.  I say we think through what the perfect world would look 
like in this respect and then see how hard it would be to implement. . .

B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spandsp

2004-09-26 Thread administrator tootai
Danny Zak a écrit :
Dear;
regarding the details that i found on the site about spandsp; is it
correct to assume the following ?
+ spandsp will only work with a card that is located in the * box?
 

should also work with ztdummy if you don't have a card.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Asterisk
I pray for an end to the priorities as well. The +101 could be easily solved 
by a default label, or an option to the dial

for example:
exten = _7XX,1,Dial(yada,10)
exten = _7XX,2,Voicemail(unavail)
exten = _7XX,3,Hangup
exten = _7XX,102,Voicemail(Busy)
could be:
exten = Dial:_7XX,Dial(yada,10)
exten = Hangup:_7XX,Hangup
exten = VMUnavail:_7XX,Voicemail(unavail)
exten = VMBusy_7XX,Voicemail(Busy)
in other words, the dial automatically looks for VMUnavail if not answered, 
or VMBusy if the line is busy

or
exten = 
StartPlan:Dial:_7XX,Dial(yada,10,BeforeAnswer=AA,AfterAnswer=ZZ,Busy=XX,NoAnswer=YY)
exten = ZZ:_7XX,Hangup
exten = XX:_7XX,Voicemail(unavail)
exten = YY:_7XX,Voicemail(Busy)

There must be fat better ways of expressing my thoughts, but it's late on 
Sunday :)

Julian
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Dinesh Nair wrote:
On 27/09/2004 00:50 Jay Milk said the following:
Eliminating the need to specify (and keep track of) priorities would
make changes to extensions.conf much easier to implement.

or perhaps allow non-consecutive priorities.
After this topic was discussed a bit at the developer's confab, I got to 
thinking about what a great feature that would be.

Renumbering priorities is a sadly common task for me in my somewhat 
chaotic config environment, and having a way to sneak in actions in 
between existing ones would be a major win.

Of course, the problem of the hard-coded priority + 101 situation is 
problematical.  I say we think through what the perfect world would look 
like in this respect and then see how hard it would be to implement. . .

B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Marc Storck
Why VMxyz, does every line end up at the VM when it's busy or 
unavailable or unregistered btw we could then also add a rule for 
the case the user agent has registered with * (bristuff addon n+201)

Best Regards,
Marc
Asterisk wrote:
I pray for an end to the priorities as well. The +101 could be easily 
solved by a default label, or an option to the dial

for example:
exten = _7XX,1,Dial(yada,10)
exten = _7XX,2,Voicemail(unavail)
exten = _7XX,3,Hangup
exten = _7XX,102,Voicemail(Busy)
could be:
exten = Dial:_7XX,Dial(yada,10)
exten = Hangup:_7XX,Hangup
exten = VMUnavail:_7XX,Voicemail(unavail)
exten = VMBusy_7XX,Voicemail(Busy)
in other words, the dial automatically looks for VMUnavail if not 
answered, or VMBusy if the line is busy

or
exten = 
StartPlan:Dial:_7XX,Dial(yada,10,BeforeAnswer=AA,AfterAnswer=ZZ,Busy=XX,NoAnswer=YY) 

exten = ZZ:_7XX,Hangup
exten = XX:_7XX,Voicemail(unavail)
exten = YY:_7XX,Voicemail(Busy)
There must be fat better ways of expressing my thoughts, but it's late 
on Sunday :)

Julian
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Dinesh Nair wrote:
On 27/09/2004 00:50 Jay Milk said the following:
Eliminating the need to specify (and keep track of) priorities would
make changes to extensions.conf much easier to implement.

or perhaps allow non-consecutive priorities.
After this topic was discussed a bit at the developer's confab, I got 
to thinking about what a great feature that would be.

Renumbering priorities is a sadly common task for me in my somewhat 
chaotic config environment, and having a way to sneak in actions in 
between existing ones would be a major win.

Of course, the problem of the hard-coded priority + 101 situation is 
problematical.  I say we think through what the perfect world would 
look like in this respect and then see how hard it would be to 
implement. . .

B.
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[Asterisk-Users] zqaptel and hdlc

2004-09-26 Thread Michael Welter
I have hdlc networking and voice channels between two * boxes using a 
T-1 P2P circuit.  I have Digium T-1 cards on both systems.

I've loaded zaptel/libpri/asterisk 1.0 on one of the boxes.  When I 
start zaptel and run ztcfg I get Zaptel networking not supported by 
this build.

Has anyone else seen this?
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Stefan de Konink
Brian Capouch wrote:
Of course, the problem of the hard-coded priority + 101 situation is 
problematical.  I say we think through what the perfect world would look 
like in this respect and then see how hard it would be to implement. . .
XML will probably able to store much, probably more, of the flat text in 
a marked up as 'Asterisk XML', created with a nice XSL-template there 
would even for +101 situations not be any problems.

But my major consern is the validness of goto statements, but thats 
probably also the issue with the current 'list' versions.

It is allready possible to start developing an 'Asterisk XML' since with 
an XSLT preprocessor you are able to generate a valid extension.conf.


Stefan de Konink
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration language

2004-09-26 Thread Jay Milk
I like my first suggestion the best... And that is of course fully
subjective:

[context]
exten = _1xxx
:DigitTimeOut(10)
:ResponseTimeOut(20)
BackHere:Answer
:Read(callto,pls-entr-num-uwish2-call,10)
:Read(callfrom,enter-phone-number10,10)
:SetCIDNum(${callfrom}) 
:Dial(IAX2/${IAXFREE}/1${callto},40):Failed
:Hangup
Failed:Play(try-again)
Goto(BackHere)

[label]:command[:label1,..] as the basic syntax

If the command has the conditional branch, then supply the +101, +201,
etc, labels.  In the example above, when the dial-command fails, the
supplied priority is Failed, which will point to the priority marked
Failed -- the preprocessor would of course need to make sure that
Play{try-again} lands on a priority that +101 from the Dial command.
This seems fairly trivial -- if I find some time this week, I'll hack it
out in PHP or PERL.

 -Original Message-
 From: Asterisk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 3:43 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level 
 configuration language
 
 
 I pray for an end to the priorities as well. The +101 could 
 be easily solved 
 by a default label, or an option to the dial
 
 for example:
 
 exten = _7XX,1,Dial(yada,10)
 exten = _7XX,2,Voicemail(unavail)
 exten = _7XX,3,Hangup
 exten = _7XX,102,Voicemail(Busy)
 
 could be:
 
 exten = Dial:_7XX,Dial(yada,10)
 exten = Hangup:_7XX,Hangup
 exten = VMUnavail:_7XX,Voicemail(unavail)
 exten = VMBusy_7XX,Voicemail(Busy)
 
 in other words, the dial automatically looks for VMUnavail if 
 not answered, 
 or VMBusy if the line is busy
 
 or
 
 exten = 
 StartPlan:Dial:_7XX,Dial(yada,10,BeforeAnswer=AA,AfterAnswer=Z
 Z,Busy=XX,NoAnswer=YY)
 exten = ZZ:_7XX,Hangup
 exten = XX:_7XX,Voicemail(unavail)
 exten = YY:_7XX,Voicemail(Busy)
 
 There must be fat better ways of expressing my thoughts, but 
 it's late on 
 Sunday :)
 
 Julian
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Capouch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What about a higher level configuration 
 language
 
 
  Dinesh Nair wrote:
  On 27/09/2004 00:50 Jay Milk said the following:
 
  Eliminating the need to specify (and keep track of) 
 priorities would 
  make changes to extensions.conf much easier to implement.
 
 
  or perhaps allow non-consecutive priorities.
 
 
  After this topic was discussed a bit at the developer's 
 confab, I got 
  to
  thinking about what a great feature that would be.
 
  Renumbering priorities is a sadly common task for me in my somewhat
  chaotic config environment, and having a way to sneak in 
 actions in 
  between existing ones would be a major win.
 
  Of course, the problem of the hard-coded priority + 101 
 situation is
  problematical.  I say we think through what the perfect 
 world would look 
  like in this respect and then see how hard it would be to 
 implement. . .
 
  B.
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[Asterisk-Users] Dialplan question

2004-09-26 Thread Danny Zak
Hello Asterisk,

  is it possible to make an extensions that write a call file
  (like a call back to the callerid)  in
  the outgoing directory WITHOUT using a perl AGI ?
  

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium and mailing lists

2004-09-26 Thread Jay Milk
Things aren't bad in the US at the moment.  In fact, I think they're
pretty good, because people actually seem concerned about PATENT and
COPYRIGHT LAWs which your initial post attempted to circumvent.  There
was no issue with freedom of expression; there was an issue with
legality of posts based on content.  You're free to express your
discontent about G.729 licensing issues, but you're not allowed to
advertise a way to *steal* the software.  In other terms, you are
allowed to loudly and eloquently disagree with the price of goods, but
your disapproval does not give you the right to steal it -- or explain
to others how to steal and get away with it.

FWIW, your little blurp, while obviously politically motivated,
contained several inaccuracies: 1) There is no person by the name of Cat
Stevens.  That former singer changed his name legally to Yusuf Islam
decades ago.  2) He was not deported, but rather denied entry.  It's the
right of any country to turn non-citizens back for any reason, and it
happened to several friends of mine attempting to enter the US, Canada
and on two occasions, Germany.  3) Yusuf Islam is not a US Citizen and
as such has no legal *right* to enter the US as a visitor or for any
reason; therefore his proposed legal action will likely not be legal
in the sense that any law granting Mr. Islam rights, was indeed
violated.

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Pocock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 1:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Digium and mailing lists
 
 
 
 I was somewhat concerned reading Mark's posting earlier today.
 
 Obviously, things are very bad in the US at the moment.  Their 
 Government even deported Cat Stevens the other day (check 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3686992.stm ).
 
 Clearly, given the fact that Digium contributes so much to Asterisk, 
 they shouldn't be forced to risk their company's future by 
 hosting these 
 mailing lists in such an unstable environment where they 
 could get sued 
 for any ridiculous reason.  Even an unjustified, ambit claim could 
 generate huge defence costs on Digium's part, and cripple 
 their ability 
 to contribute to Asterisk.
 
 Therefore, it seems to be in the best interests of Asterisk's 
 `security' 
 to have the mailing lists hosted by someone other than Digium 
 and maybe 
 in a country that doesn't prohibit freedom of expression.
 
 I would certainly be willing to organise hosting through 
 another company 
 that wouldn't be at risk from vexatious legal claims.  This 
 would allow 
 genuinely open discussion on the lists and would mean that no 
 messages 
 would need to be censored from the archives.

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[Asterisk-Users] SIP Registration Timeout, No FW

2004-09-26 Thread Fredrik von Kantzow
Hi people,
My asterisk wont register with any sip providers, I have tried three
different but they all end up with:

Sep 26 17:36:36 NOTICE[114696]: chan_sip.c:4035 sip_reg_timeout:
Registration for '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' timed out, trying again

There is no firewall and my server has a public IP. Could this be a Asterisk
problem?

-Fredrik vK

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Transferring Calls

2004-09-26 Thread Robert Jackson


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Transferring Calls
 
 
 Both methods seem similar; you enter the number and it 
 transfers. The  
 problems arise when the phone that it is transfered to is 
 Busy or there is  
 no answer: Asterisk just hangs up. Instead of this behaviour, 
 we would  
 like it to return the call to the person that transfered it.
 
I am not sure that you can do exactly that, but using a stdexten 
macro you can give the caller the option to wait until the extension
is available or go to voicemail.  

 Alternativley, it could just do a 3 way call or something until the  
 original person hangs up?
 
This is called an attended transfer and is very frequently a feature
of the actual sip phone you are using.  We are using this very
Effectively with Cisco 7960's.

 I can't believe there is no way to achieve this. I have 
 looked all over  
 the internet but I can't find anything about this.
 
Here are some pages that helped us work around this issue:

* http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+campon - Basically sets
up an IVR menu that allows the caller to hit 1 to leave a message
or hold on the line to get answered.

* http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk/page6.html - Once set up it enables
Follow me type of use.  Then in your normal context execute the macro
instead of Dial.

Integrating these two features together has allowed us to accomplish 
the same goal.  This even had an unexpected side effect for us over
Our previous system which preformed like you wanted: it kept our
Receptionists from dealing with the same call nearly doubling 
their effectiveness.

I hope this helps,

Robert Jackson
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] DIAL tone

2004-09-26 Thread Henry Devito








This is in the notes in the default extensions.conf - ignorepat
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Could
someone could help me configure a DIal plan in order that when i dial 9 at the
beginning i receive DIAL TONE?















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[Asterisk-Users] spandsp with TDM fxo card?

2004-09-26 Thread Rich Adamson

Has anyone made spandsp to work with a digium tdm fxo card?

I finally got the rxfax and txfax modules to compile, the spandsp lib
installed (and in the libpath), and now receive:

-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/1-1'
-- Executing RxFAX(Zap/1-1, /var/fax.tif) in new stack
-- Hungup 'Zap/1-1'

I've tried to adjust rxgain/txgain in zapta.conf, but never get to a 
point of receiving anything more then the above at the cli. The
fax machine is an older Brother unit.

Any thoughts?

Rich


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialplan question

2004-09-26 Thread Robert Jackson


 -Original Message-
 From: Danny Zak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 5:29 PM
 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Dialplan question
 
 
 Hello Asterisk,
 
   is it possible to make an extensions that write a call file
   (like a call back to the callerid)  in
   the outgoing directory WITHOUT using a perl AGI ?
   
The only way that I can think of would be to execute a system
Shell script or something to that effect.  To my knowledge 
there is no way to write a file directly from within the dialplan.

Hope this helps,

Robert Jackson
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialplan question

2004-09-26 Thread Robert Jackson
I forgot to add a link to the system command:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+System

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Jackson 
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 5:57 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialplan question
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Danny Zak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 5:29 PM
  To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Dialplan question
  
  
  Hello Asterisk,
  
is it possible to make an extensions that write a call file
(like a call back to the callerid)  in
the outgoing directory WITHOUT using a perl AGI ?

 The only way that I can think of would be to execute a system 
 Shell script or something to that effect.  To my knowledge 
 there is no way to write a file directly from within the dialplan.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Robert Jackson
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium and mailing lists

2004-09-26 Thread Christian Hoffmeyer
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You're free to express your
discontent about G.729 licensing issues, but you're not allowed to
advertise a way to *steal* the software.  In other terms, you are
allowed to loudly and eloquently disagree with the price of goods, but
your disapproval does not give you the right to steal it -- or explain
to others how to steal and get away with it.
I may agree with you from a moralistic point of view, but I'd like to 
understand how instructions makes the author of the instructions liable for 
any illegal activity committed by someone who used the instructions.

Should Microsoft be liable because someone wrote a virus after reading a 
Visual Studio Macro How-To?

Should a screwdriver manufacturer be liable for my house being robbed 
because their instructions tell you how much torque their screwdriver can 
sustain and the robber got the idea to jimmy my window open?

If I give you a knife and the instructions on how to slaughter livestock in 
a Kosher manner then you go out and slaughter some humans, am I responsible 
for their murder?

Is Intel just as at fault in this situation in your opinion?
If someone explains how to use development code and someone chooses to 
commit an illegal act with it, why should the author be punished?

As for the mode of transmission, was Microsoft responsible because the 9/11 
terrorists communicated via hotmail?

J.Christian Hoffmeyer 

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