[asterisk-users] Jitter buffer not used in SIP - chan_local - ZAP path even with /nj for local channels

2008-04-29 Thread Mike Fedyk
Hi,

Asterisk 1.4

Working (jitter buffers created as expected):
ZAP - SIP
SIP - ZAP

Not working (no jitter buffers created):
SIP - chan_local (with /nj) - ZAP
SIP - chan_local (with /j) - ZAP
SIP - chan_local (with no flags) - ZAP

I have this in zapata.conf:
jbenable=yes
jbforce=no
jbimpl=fixed
jbmaxsize=300

Is there something I haven't tried that will make this work or will I have
to change my dialplan so it doesn't use local channels?

Thanks,

Mike

PS, here are some pages that I have used as sources of information:

No mention of /j for local channels
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+local+channels

Nothing about local channels
http://www.asterisk.org/node/48317

Mentions /j for local channels to apps
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+new+jitterbuffer


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Re: [asterisk-users] Have problem with realtime sql

2008-03-25 Thread Mike Fedyk
That's from asterisk-addons, you can ignore that error.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark morreny
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:43 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Have problem with realtime sql


Hi,
I am having a strange problem with attempting to get voicemail-to-mysql to
work.  
The biggest problem is that I am not able to store voicemail into database.
So, I followed the
instructor found on the web: 

Updated the /usr/src/asterisk/apps/Makefile to have
USE_MYSQL_VM_INTERFACE=1 and recompiled asterisk, with
make clean; make; make install

(By the way, is it necessary to update the Makefile for Asterisk 1.4.18?)

After make install, I got some warning messages:

 Your Asterisk modules directory, located at
 /usr/lib/asterisk/modules
 contains modules that were not installed by this
 version of Asterisk. Please ensure that these
 modules are compatible with this version before
 attempting to run Asterisk.

app_addon_sql_mysql.so
app_saycountpl.so
cdr_addon_mysql.so
chan_ooh323.so
format_mp3.so
res_config_mysql.so

Is this the problem that causing Asterisk not able to store voicemessages to
mysql?  If so, how do I fix it?  


From the console, I can get realtime status ok:
CLIrealtime mysql status
Connected to [EMAIL PROTECTED], port 3306 with username askuser for 1
minutes, 34 seconds.


Thank you very much for your kind attentino.  You help is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark



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[asterisk-users] Sip exten matching based on contact: sip header?

2008-03-24 Thread Mike Fedyk
Asterisk: 1.4.17 with sip realtime
Openser 1.3.x

Hi,

I had this setup working fine until I try putting OpenSER in the picture as
a proxy.  

Unauthenticated calls go to a PRI based app via a ZAP channel, calls to sip
users get send to them etc.  Now with a proxy in the picture asterisk asks
the incoming calls for authentication 407 Proxy Authentication Required.

It seems that the sip channel matching is based only on source IP address
instead of also checking the contact: header as mentioned in the O'Reilly
book.

According to Asterisk 2nd edition it says about insecure ... If you set
insecure=invite, you'll determine which peer to match on by comparing the IP
address or hostname and port number to those provided in the contact field
of the SIP header with the host and port options in sip.conf.  If a match is
found, authentication will not be required on the initial INVITE, and the
call will be allowed.

The funny thing is that if I do a 'sip reload' and receive a call from one
my DIDs through the provider it goes to the default context when received
through OpenSER as expected.  But once a sip realtime user makes a call it
will match their peer instead of the one specified with the provider's Ip
address.

I've seen this in my logs after turning on sip debugging, it looks like
different users get matched based on the sort of the sip peers list (which
can change based on how long ago a reload was done and who has been active
because of sip realtime).

[Mar 24 17:04:23] Sending to 74.x.x.x : 5060 (no NAT)
[Mar 24 17:04:23] Using INVITE request as basis request - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Mar 24 17:04:23] Found peer 'some_peer'

The sip users have their host=ip_of_openser so I can understand why it would
get confused if it didn't check the contact header for clairification since
a call is also coming from that source IP address when proxied through
openser.

Maybe I'm approaching this from the wrong direction, anyone have any ideas?

Mike

[privider1a]
type=peer
host=67.x.x.x
insecure=invite,port
context=default
qualify=999

[provider1a]
type=peer
host=67.x.x.x
insecure=invite,port
context=default
qualify=999

[provider2]
type=peer
;host=sip.provider2.com
host=64.x.x.x
insecure=invite,port
context=default
qualify=999



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[asterisk-users] Subexpression usage in Asterisk Dialplan Regular Expressions

2008-03-17 Thread Mike Fedyk
Hi,

I currently have these two lines in my dialplan to extract different parts
out of a variable and I'd like to do it in one line instead.  Does anyone
know how to use regular expression subexpressions in the dialplan?
Outputting a comma separated list that can be sent to ARRAY() would be nice
too (tried that, didn't work -- only got the first subexpression).

;extract dialed number
exten = s,n,Set(dialed_num=$[ ${ARG1} =~ (.*)\\* ])

;extract user specified callerid
exten = s,n,Set(callerid_num_custom=$[ ${ARG1} =~ \\*(.*) ])

Mike



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[asterisk-users] Problem sending CallerID Name to Dialogic based phone app

2008-03-12 Thread Mike Fedyk
Hi,

Asterisk 1.4.17
Sangoma a102DE  

I'm having some issues sending CallerID Name to a Dialogic based phone app.
According to the pri debug (asterisk2a-pri-debug.txt in [3]) you can see
that it is sending the CallerID Name Mike - Budgetone - reachme.com to the
Dialogic card, but it isn't regestering on the Dialogic based system.

I can receive CallerID Names from our Paetec, our provider on the Dialogic
system, so it must be using a different PRI signalling message.  Right now,
the Sangoma card is not connected to our provider, only to the Dialogic so
getting a PRI trace from asterisk would require doing a trace on the
dialogic (which will probably give different debug format) or connect the
provider directly to sangoma/asterisk which would require *a lot* of painful
configuration changes, mostly on the Dialogic side.

I'm hoping someone can help shed some light on this.  I simply want to get
asterisk/sangoma to send the same signalling that Paetec does.  I am
contacting them for details on the setup they are using also.
 
http://www.dialogic.com/manuals/docs/isdn_api_v5.pdf
 
The Dialogic system is using the U_IES[1] with cc_GetCallInfo() to get the
information sent from Paetec, our provider, but the information isn't being
sent the same way from the Sangoma card, even though I have it set to
pri_net in zapata.conf.
 
Alternatively, we can check the UUI[2] message to see if the Dialogic card
will receive it that way.
 
Mike
 
1. Information Elements (IEs) in CCITT format. The cc_GetCallInfo( )
function retrieves all unprocessed IEs in CCITT format. Be sure to allocate
enough memory (up to 256
bytes) to hold the retrieved IEs. The IEs are returned as raw data and must
be parsed and interpreted by the application. Use IE_BLK to retrieve the
unprocessed IEs. For a description of the IE_BLK data structure, see Section
6.6. IE_BLK. See Appendix C for descriptions of information elements
specific to the DPNSS protocol.
 
2. User-to-user information. The user information data returned is
application-dependent. The user information is retrieved using the
USRINFO_ELEM data structure. For a description of the return format for UUI,
see Section 6.16. USRINFO_ELEM.

3. 
http://reachme.com/sangoma-asterisk-dialogic/sangoma1a-scripted-config-info.
txt
http://reachme.com/sangoma-asterisk-dialogic/sangoma1b-wanrouter-restart.txt
http://reachme.com/sangoma-asterisk-dialogic/asterisk2a-pri-debug.txt
http://reachme.com/sangoma-asterisk-dialogic/sangoma2b-pri-show-span-x.txt



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Re: [asterisk-users] does the meetme module still require anexternal timing source?

2008-03-12 Thread Mike Fedyk
Agreed, Callweaver and Freeswitch are both better for conferencing
(especially if you don't have zaptel hardware).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:28 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] does the meetme module still require
anexternal timing source?


Try Callweaver.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Dennis Christopher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Matt,

  However I am looking to see if Asterisk with meetme is viable on OS  
 X, and I believe that  ztdummy will not compile on that platform. If 
 so, I would need an  alternative to meetme to do conferencing...?

  Dennis


 On 12-Mar-08, at 4:02 PM, Matt Riddell wrote:

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   Can anyone confirm if the meetme module still requires an external  
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   Correct, but insofar as a driver, you can just use ztdummy, which will
   be loaded by default when starting up zaptel if you have no hardware
   installed.
  
   - --
   Kind Regards,
  
   Matt Riddell
   Director
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Re: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition

2008-03-12 Thread Mike Fedyk
I believe that is/was one of the goals of the phonecall project.

-Original Message-


Does it implement the ability to run more than 1 PBX in asterisk ? (Virtual
PBX)

To be clear:
more then 1 company using the same physical asterisk



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Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk out of service

2008-03-12 Thread Mike Fedyk
You'll need to post more info.  Version and a scenario of what was happening
at the time would be a good start...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rilawich Ango
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:32 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] asterisk out of service


Hi all,
 I got the following message in the log yesterday.  After that, no more
in/out bound call can be made.  What is the meaning of the message? ango

[Mar 12 09:26:17] ERROR[29565] chan_sip.c: We could NOT get the channel lock
for SIP/2367-d8062fb0! [Mar 12 09:26:17] ERROR[29565] chan_sip.c: SIP
transaction failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Mar 12 09:33:15] ERROR[29565] chan_sip.c: We could NOT get the channel lock
for SIP/2327-dc32e4a0! [Mar 12 09:33:15] ERROR[29565] chan_sip.c: SIP
transaction failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Mar 12 09:35:19] ERROR[29565] chan_sip.c: We could NOT get the channel lock
for SIP/10.201.2.224-0e914380! [Mar 12 09:35:19] ERROR[29565] chan_sip.c:
SIP transaction failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Recommended FXO device

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Fedyk

Rich Adamson wrote:
I've tested a large number of other external adapters and have not 
found a single one that had a reasonable echo canceller built in. Many 
of them work fine on short pstn lines (where echo is much less of a 
problem), but provided even reasonable service on longer pstn lines or 
lines that involve unusual telco configurations (eg, remote line 
concentrators).
What about devices from audiocodes, ipgear/boscom and vegastream?  Can 
you give a list of products you have tested and your results as well as 
your testing environment and methodology?

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Octasic for TDM2400P and TDM400P? was: [Asterisk-Users] TE420P/TE415P?

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Fedyk
When will Digium include the octasic on the TDM2400P?  And maybe the 
TDM400P?


Also how does the TE415P and TE420P differ from the TE412P card?
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[Asterisk-Users] Wiki Voip Phone reviews

2006-06-28 Thread Mike Fedyk

Hi,

We have a page on the wiki just for phone reviews, but I think it needs 
a bit of format change.  Instead of individual reviews for each phone, I 
think each person should review all phones they have worked with and 
list the phones they have had access to and rank them in relation to 
each other.  Also each review should have a date so the reader can see 
how fresh the data is to current.


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Phones+Reviews

An example would be:

June 28th, 2006
Mike Fedyk

I have used these phones and I rank them in this order:
Linksys 941
Polycom 301
Sipura 841
Grandstream GXP-2000

Linksys SPA-941:
Pros:  Has a feature set of a much more expensive phone.  Well laid out 
menus and buttons.  2.5MM plug for headset.  Very intuitive interface.
Cons: The screen resets whenever the phone checks for updated config, 
(could also be caused by sip notify messages also)  The blended line 
appearance feature requires SIP-B and Asterisk won't be supporting that 
soon.
Comment: The handset microphone is *very* sensitive -- it will pick up 
the entire room sounds and conversations like a speaker phone.  You 
should consider reducing the microphone gain in the config.  Like the 
SPA-841  This is the phone that I would choose for myself (though I want 
a 942).


Polycom IP301:
Pros: Very nice buttons, high sound quality handset and speaker phone, 
separate button for headset, nice bright flashing message waiting 
indicator (MWI)
Cons: Speaker phone is one way, you have to use the handset or headset 
if you want to speak and that deactivates the speaker phone.  The menu 
layout is terrible.  For instance, if you want to get to the recently 
called list, you have to press 5 buttons.  Compared to one button 
accessibility to the same list on Sipura/Linksys phone and you will 
notice the increased amount of time you spend on the polycom menu system.
Comment: The headset jack is a RJ-11 used by your standard business 
headset companies like Plantronics and others.  That can be a benefit 
depending on whether you already have the headset amplifiers or not.  
This is what sits on my desk now.  Though not for much longer.


Sipura SPA-841:
Pros: Low cost, works well, very intuitive interface.
Cons: Discontinued by Linksys.  Hard to read screen, low quality screen, 
screen at bad angle, very light and small so pressing keys usually moves 
whole phone, buttons are rubbery and feel as if they would stick but 
don't, speaker phone could be better.
Comments: Like the SPA-941, once you start using the phone the buttons 
and menus are very intuitive.  You won't have to read the screen, you 
just press a few buttons in a row and it does what you want. 


Grandstream GXP-2000:
Pros: Backlit screen, firmware getting better, big buttons.
Cons: Very long list, see gxp-2000 page.  Poorly tested and buggy firmware.
Comments: I have a client that needed phones to connect to vicidial and 
got these.  I don't recommend them for much else but the backlit screen 
on a cheap phone.  Beware.


I'll spend more time on the GXP-2000 entry when I modify this post for 
the wiki, this message has been in writing long enough already.


Mike
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[Asterisk-Users] Mail loop?

2006-06-27 Thread Mike Fedyk
Is anyone else getting messages from the lists.digium.com mail server 
with errors about a mail loop?


I've been getting this for the last few weeks, but I don't have any list 
software on my server.  Any ideas?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] AsteriskPT- Sucessfull routing Skype Calls to my * box. Incoming and Outgoing calls!!!

2006-06-26 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:39:11AM -0300, Josué Conti wrote:
  

Marco, bom dia.
Essa interligação entre o Skype e Asterisk, é feito atavés de um módulo
externo?
É freeware?
Podemos seguir com o projeto Asterisk-PT?



English, please, folks.

  
I don't know Portuguese and my Spanish is terrible, but I understood 
that Josue wanted to know if he needed any external modules.  Marco 
pointed him to the right place to get skype-to-sip and now they're going 
to collaborate.


So, please guys English please or you'll get more of my bad translations. ;)

Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000

2006-06-22 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

Mike Fedyk wrote:
I happen to have asterisk running as a router, so I use it doing QoS 
with tc (traffic control) and wondershaper set to prioritize based on 
port ranges.  I sent a patch to the debian bug tracking system a 
while back with a few improvements -- I should check on that.  It 
basically prioritizes smaller packets before larger packets with ~8 
levels of priority and groups of sizes for the packets.  Just doing 
that automatically handles 80% of the need for prioritization without 
specifying port ranges for the sip rtp packets.


Mike



Mike,

Have you tried AstShape?  Shapping based on port ranges is totally 
hit or miss.  TOS is the way to go:


http://www.krisk.org/files/astlinux-i586/usr/sbin/astshape

Comment out the . /etc/rc.conf and you should be okay!


Actually the above is wrong.  I don't use port ranges at all, just 
packet sizes.  It allows me to blast away with p2p, interactive ssh and 
scp file copies all while having two g.711 and one g.729 voip 
conversation going on a dsn connection with a 384Kbps upload speed.


It is based on the premise that smaller packets should have higher 
priority.  There will be exceptions of course, and empty classes have 
are there for that also.  For the common case, no configuration is 
necessary.


Give this one a try:
http://mikefedyk.com/wondershaper-pkt-size-classes

Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] finding mac addresses

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Fedyk

arp in the shell

mojowrkn wrote:
All, Can anyone point me to the best way to find the mac address of a 
phone on my system?? I can get the ip's just fine but dont seem to be 
able to pull mac addresses from any network tools.


Thanks-John


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Echo Problem with T411P

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:

- Steve Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

:) Now you've defeated me. I imagine that you need to do something to
enable EC on that card, but it is not a card I know, so I'll leave it
to someone who knows the card to offer any suggestions.



The only requirement is that 'echocancel=yes' is present in zapata.conf for 
those channels. If the hardware echo canceler is present and enabled, then it 
will be used instead of the software canceler for those channels.
  
How can you detect if the HW echo can is enabled?  Is it console output 
during module load or something else?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] DTMF Talk off

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Fedyk

this does not make any sense.

How do you dial to a service provider from your * box?  Does it use PPP 
and IP?  And then you connect to another * box that is on a cable 
connection that receives the call over IP and then dials out to a voip 
provider?  How do any fxo devices come into this picture?  How does a 
zap channel come into this picture?


John Millican wrote:

Doug,
The interface that i dial to is at my Service provider and am not sure what 
they are using.  I dial out of my * box to a service provider number which is 
answerd by an asterisk box that I have at another location on a high speed 
cable connection, that box then dials the numberI ultimately want to reach.  
I use an extensions.conf line at my home * such as:

Dial(zap/1/my_sip_numberww${EXTEN});
this works great and saves me a ton on call costs.
John

On Monday June 19 2006 12:19 pm, Doug Crompton wrote:
  

John,

 You said you were using a PAP2.. what is the FXO interface at the (far)
asterisk end?

Doug


*  Doug Crompton   *
*  Richboro, PA 18954  *
*  215-431-6307*
*  *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]*
* http://www.crompton.com  *



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] free sun boxes

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Fedyk

I'm in southern California, are you close or can you ship?

Bob Knight wrote:

I have 4 sparc based sun boxes I am about to pay money so I can
get rid of them.  They are running older versions of Solaris.
You should be able to load Solaris 10 and play around with *
on them.

Time to clean the office:

3 Ultra 5
1 Sparcstation 5

I also have a box full of Sun keyboards and mice.

Contact me offline if you want them.
I've had many good years of development on them and it kills
me to just toss them, but the office is just too damn cluttered.

thanks, bk...


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[Asterisk-Users] What ever happened to the LTAPI, the Linux Telephony API?

2006-06-18 Thread Mike Fedyk

Hi,

I've just been going through the various modules that are autoloaded to 
see what I need and what I don't and came across chan_phone.so which 
loads /etc/asterisk/phone.conf.  I did a lookup on voip-info and google 
and came across this article in Linux Journal from 2001.


Anyone know why it isn't being used much (from what I can tell) and 
what's happening with it today?


Thanks,

Mike

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4468
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best $300 VoIP phone for asterisk?

2006-06-16 Thread Mike Fedyk

Michael Graves wrote:
I have the IP600 and like it a lot. However, I really LOVE the Aastra 
480i CT. It supports more lines than the ip600, has a backlit LCD, and 
the cordless handset is GREAT!

How is the range, and in what environment did you test?

Can you a call on the cordless and the base-station without any loss of 
functionality (forwarding, 3-way, etc) on either base-station or cordless?


Any quirks you've noticed with this phone?

Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] EC needed in all-digital situation?

2006-06-16 Thread Mike Fedyk

Warren wrote:
So the next question becomes...  Is hardware EC necessary or can * 
handle it in software?  I am looking at some pretty beefy hardware for 
my platform, a Dell PE2850 with dual Xeon 3Ghz processors and plenty 
of RAM to spare.
Can your processors handle the load, yes.  Do you want to use software 
echo cancellation?  Most likely no.


Should you get a Digium card with hardware echo cancellation?  That's 
debatable. 

For ~$300 difference the Sangoma four port DS1 card w/ echo can gives 
you 1024 taps of echo cancellation.  In comparison the Digium TE411P w/ 
echo can gives you 512 taps with 32 or fewer channels active.  Once you 
go over that, you get 128 taps.


Digium's hardware echo cancellation provides 64ms across 32 channels; 
however, when it scales over 32 channels it is reduce to 16ms per 
channel across all channels.

http://blog.voipsupply.com/asterisk_hardware/

If you want to support Digium/Asterisk, then buy a support contract.  
Admittedly I haven't worked with Digium's DS1 cards, but I have used 
their TDM400p cards.  I can tell you that the software echo can isn't 
that good.  Of course listen to others who are using Digium's hardware 
echo can.  In fact, I'd like to hear from people who have had good 
experiences with it (and especially if you have bad experiences with 
sangoma hardware echo can).


Until Digium's products have an echo can with a longer tail, buy Sangoma.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best $300 VoIP phone for asterisk?

2006-06-16 Thread Mike Fedyk

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Again, good to know.  Thank you for your detailed post!  The XML config for 
these phones gives them a leg up over the ip501 as well, that is for sure.
I believe the IP501 phones do have a XML config file.  At least the 
IP301 does.


I take it that you mean the XML is better on the 480i CT.  If so, can 
you be more specific?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Best $300 VoIP phone for asterisk?

2006-06-16 Thread Mike Fedyk

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

On Friday 16 June 2006 14:50, Mike Fedyk wrote:
  

I take it that you mean the XML is better on the 480i CT.  If so, can
you be more specific?



No, I mean the XML config file for controlling the screen on the Aastra 480i.  
There is no such thing on the ip301/501.  The ip601 has the minibrowser but I 
haven't played with that.
You mean the menus aren't bass ackwards like the IP301 and you can 
change them in the XML file?  Sign me up!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Echo Problem with T411P

2006-06-16 Thread Mike Fedyk

Steve Davies wrote:

On 6/15/06, Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Steve Davies wrote:
 We have even experienced problems within Europe where providers route
 national calls via international routes to save money. This adds
 significant latency and makes any echo so heavily delayed that
 asterisk cannot remove it.



More than 128ms?


128 = 128 taps = 16ms of 8KHz audio, so no, not more that 128ms, but
definitely more than 16ms.

No, 128ms = 1024 taps

Like what sangoma offers.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Echo Problem with T411P

2006-06-15 Thread Mike Fedyk

Steve Davies wrote:

On 6/15/06, Idris AVCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

There are 3 PRI's connected to the card each from different operators.
Especially echo occured on span 3 is really annoying. Configuration 
files

are as follows. Is there something wrong in conf ?



Have you verified that the provider on span 3 is not using some high
latency routing? The configuration line context=Satelco suggests a
satellite company? They should do the echo cancelling on your behalf
if they have high latency routes as the asterisk EC will never keep up
under those circumstances.

We have even experienced problems within Europe where providers route
national calls via international routes to save money. This adds
significant latency and makes any echo so heavily delayed that
asterisk cannot remove it.

More than 128ms?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000 addressbook

2006-06-15 Thread Mike Fedyk

Matthias Fechner wrote:

Hi Gareth,

Gareth Blades wrote:
  

No I dont believe so. The address book is a new feature as it is very
basic in my opinion and even editing it on the phone is difficult.

I would expect a web based editing feature to be implemented at some
point and once that is done it should be possible to do a mass update of
the phones.



ah ok, then I will wait for a new firmware :)
This is one of those times where you should be contacting the supplier 
you bought the phones from.  They should be able to get your message 
over to grandstream so they know what people want.  Other than better 
phones of course. ;)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] EC needed in all-digital situation?

2006-06-15 Thread Mike Fedyk

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:

Warren wrote:

I was just told that for my forthcoming system I will be getting a data
T-1 instead of a voice T-1.  Given that all of the handsets will be voip
phones, no analog at all, do I need echo cancellation?  I looked at the
voip-info wiki and it seems to me that the answer should be no but I
would like to confirm that.


If you never make calls to analog phones or receive calls from analog 
phones, then you will never have echo.


Can you be sure that all telephones you call out there on the world 
PSTN will always be digital?  I didn't think so.
If you have no TDM equipment, then it is your provider's responsibility 
to handle any echo that may be generated if a call is routed through the 
PSTN.


There is more than one way for echo to naturally occur that have nothing 
to do with TDM circuits, like bad acoustics in a room as mentioned by 
another poster.


VoIP moves much of the quality needs from the center of the network to 
the edges.  That is, phones and gateways.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Easiest (best?) linux distribution for dedicatedAsterisk box?

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 01:15:03PM -0700, shadowym wrote:
  

FreePBX or AAH(aka trixbox) requires 256MB of RAM minimum to run properly.
Just sitting there doing nothing on my test system it is using 170MB.



How exactly do you meassure memory usage?

E.g: on my laptop:

$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers   cached
Mem:483056 476320   6736  070820 169360
-/+ buffers/cache: 236140 246916
Swap:   976744   3048 973696

Technically you could say that it only has 6.7 MB free. But actually
some 220MB are used for buffers and caching by the kernel (because
unused memory is wasted memory).

BTW: where did you get the idea that Asterisk == FrePBX? Asterisk is not
known to require MySQL and Apace to run.
My home debian linux box runs, iptables, asterisk, apache2, exim, 
dovecot, dhcpd, proftpd and tftpd on a PPRO 200Mhz with 64MB ram for two 
users.


Yep, it swaps a bit, (especially when running something big like emacs), 
but it does what it needs to do and it doesn't have a high load on it.  
The only thing I'm not running is mysql and astmanproxy. 


I doubt centos requires much more memory than debian.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389)

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Fedyk
Comfort noise is the sound you hear from the phone to assure the user 
that there is still a connection to the other end.  It is there to keep 
you from hearing no sound through the speaker and thinking you have been 
disconnected.


Check your phone's config for comfort noise or silence suppression and 
turn it on or off respectively.


What phone model(s) do you see this with?

Daniel Salama wrote:

Can anyone explain to me what this means:

Jun 14 19:46:10 NOTICE[7391]: rtp.c:331 process_rfc3389: Comfort noise 
support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389). Please turn off on client 
if possible. Client IP: 66.175.1.1


When I try to make a call from certain IP phones, I see that message 
on the console.


Thanks,
Daniel


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SPA941 and Echo

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Fedyk
Try reducing the gain on the microphone.  These phones pick up room 
sounds *very* well.


Andres wrote:
Has anybody else experienced bad echo issues with this SPA941 phone 
when calling SIP-SIP to another SPA ATA?  When I call remote office 
phones that are attached to SPA ATAs, I get very annoying echo.  One 
can sure blame it on the reflected signal from the phone on the remote 
end, but how can one deal with this echo?  (it happens with some 
phones really bad and with others its perfect)


The SPA941 does not handle echo itself so I am at a loss on how to 
approach this issue.  If I change the SPA941 for a regular SPA 1000 
with Echo Cancel enabled, I can hear perfectly.  Any ideas?


Thanks,


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SPA941 and Echo

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Fedyk

Andres wrote:

Mike Fedyk wrote:

Try reducing the gain on the microphone.  These phones pick up room 
sounds *very* well.



WellI'm not using the speakerphone.  Plus there is no gain setting 
at all that I am aware off.  Just Handset Volume or Speaker Volume.

I'm not talking about the speakerphone.

Check the XML config file.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] delay in MeetMe

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Fedyk
Get some hardware, a TDM410b is only $125.  Or upgrade to 2.6.13 or 
later.  Don't compile the kernel unless you know what you are doing.  
You might try, Ubuntu 6.06, FC4 with updates or FC5 to see if that makes 
a difference.


Also there are patches on mantis for delays in meetme conferences that 
are unrelated to timing.  See if -q makes any difference, and if it 
does, those patches should help.


amna saleem wrote:

Hi All!
 
I am facing some delay in conferencing.

Using DIAX for Voip calls ,no hardware used yet
I am using MeetMe to achieve conferencing  and am having a lot of delays.
Can anyone tell me how to reduce the delay
 
Regards,

Amna Saleem


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] open source sip softphone (Window OS version )

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Fedyk

Asterisk guy wrote:

are there any open source sip softphone (Window OS version )?

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Open+Source+VOIP+Software
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Web UI - Best practices?

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:51:06AM -0400, Mike wrote:
  

Hi,
 
I'm stuck writing a Web GUI because nothing out there is exactly what I

need.  I'm not writing something as extensive as what _is_ out there, but
just something that allows users to change where their calls are forwarded
and other small things like that.
 
What I wanted to know is what is recommended by those you successfully wrote

their own UI :
 
1) Modifying the config directly in the Asterisk RealTime DB and and use

Asterisk Realtime? This seems like the obvious choice, but I have a bad
feeling about this method...especially with respect to future changes I
would make to my UI or that the Asterisk dev team would make to their own
tables / code



Non-static real time mean that your PBX becomes non-functional if the DB
server has a problem (or is even a bit loaded).

Why is it that more people haven't turned to LDAP to solve this problem?

It is optimized for a light write and heavy read workload that seems 
perfectly suited for use in a PBX dial plan.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can this config sustain 30 users?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Erick Perez wrote:

I just don't want to install it and then after a 5th user going to
call someone the asterisk begin to crash due to lack of resuources.
Check the wiki for SIP load generation tools you can use to test your 
setup on any number of calls you like.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can this config sustain 30 users?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Martin Joseph wrote:
Ultimately you need to set up a server that does what you need and see 
how it performs. Usually hardware overkill is a good bet,  but you 
don't need to go crazy.

So, one cpu per call is too much?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can this config sustain 30 users?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Erick Perez wrote:

I have this server I need to put to work.
The option I have is to make it work as a small office PBX with SIP
users and a Digium E1 Card for PSTN service.

24 SIP users and one E1 card in an Intel 945board (533 Front side bus)
with  1GB DDR 533mhz of ram, one Pentium Dual Core 2.66 ghz (FSB
533MHZ) and two 80GB SATA disks.
Can the box sustain the load? I can add another 1gb of ram if necessary.

Just PBX and voicemail, no fancy sutff like call recording...
maybe a simple autoattendant like thank you for calling, please press
one for
Let's just say that you shouldn't have trouble with four E1 lines in 
this system (as long as you have a hardware echo canceler).  Even with 
software echo can, this hardware is overkill.


I'd suggest getting the slowest processor available new (At least 1.5Ghz 
for AMD Athlon/Opteron and 2.xGhz  for Intel P4/Xeon) and get redundant 
power supplies, ECC memory, RAID 1 or higher and a nice UPS.


You may also think of looking at used previous generation high-end 
equipment.  It still has all of the good engineering and redundancy, it 
just isn't new and in many cases you don't need the latest speedy 
equipment to handle the load.  In many instances, the same money spent 
buying used high quality equipment will give you more reliability than 
buying cheap new equipment.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Snom high SIP ping time

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Steve Glaus wrote:

Mike Hammett wrote:
(ICMP) pings were under 1 ms.  No amount of different Asterisk 
versions or phone firmware revisions seems to solve this.  All was 
well, then (as far as we know) without changes, it crapped out.
 
Any ideas?
  
I'm having much the same issues only I'm using Cisco 7960 phones. When 
I do a 'sip show peers' I'm getting times in excess of 300ms. A soft 
phone on the same network (x-lite), is reporting times of 4 ms. 
Related to this (I think), I'm getting audio issues. The person being 
called can hear the caller fine but the callee's voice drops in and 
out excessively.


I have qualify set to yes in the sip definitions for all the clients 
(Including the soft phone). Does anyone know what is causing this. I'm 
not aware what the sip ping times were earlier, but the audio issues 
seemed to have started spontaneously.

Do you have any problems when there are a low number of concurrent calls?
Do you ever get any messages saying the phones are unreachable?  Or lagged?
What kind of Internet connection do you have?
Do you have any problems with calls between phones on the same network 
(no routers in between)?

What model of switches do you have?
What model of Internet router do you have?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Are zttest results relevant on a system with no telephony hardware?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Carl Youngblood wrote:

Our asterisk system gains access to the PSTN through a voip provider.
We have no digium or other telephony hardware in our system.  Do the
zttest results still matter to us?  Our results were as follows:

--- Results after 1007 passes ---
Best: 100.00 -- Worst: 99.780273 -- Average: 99.975763
IAX trunking and meetme conferences are some of the heaviest users of 
zaptel timing.  I'd suggest if you don't have hardware timing (or at 
least a 2.6.13 based kernel), then use SIP all the way or at least turn 
off IAX trunking.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Can this config sustain 30 users?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+dimensioning
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Open+Source+VOIP+Software

Erick Perez wrote:

I appreciate all your help and posting.
I will then load (with test calls) using SIPP and astertest
will post back the result of this machine in question

any other open source stress test tool i can use?

Thanks,


On 6/13/06, Colin Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd suggest getting the slowest processor available new (At least 
1.5Ghz

for AMD Athlon/Opteron and 2.xGhz  for Intel P4/Xeon)

I'm fond of underclocking. No heat problems for me, thank you.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Are zttest results relevant on a system with no telephony hardware?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk
2.6.13 has the high precision timers changes.  And people have reported 
99.99 averages with that change.


I do not recommend compiling your own kernel unless you know what you 
are doing though.  If you just want to give it a try, then use Ubuntu 
6.06, Debian Etch, FC4 or FC5 (or some other distro that packages 2.6.13 
or higher).  If you want to use it in long term production, then just 
get a TDM410B card and use hardware timers.


Carl Youngblood wrote:

Thanks.  What is it in the 2.6.13-based kernel that improves timing?
Should I expect to see a significant improvement if I upgrade to it?

On 6/13/06, Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IAX trunking and meetme conferences are some of the heaviest users of
zaptel timing.  I'd suggest if you don't have hardware timing (or at
least a 2.6.13 based kernel), then use SIP all the way or at least turn
off IAX trunking.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linksys SRW224P POE Switch

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tom wrote:
Most of the latest generation POE switches including the Linksys 
SRW224P provide their power on the data pairs, not the unused pairs.  
So if both the data and the power are on the same pairs, how do you 
make a cable adapter to work with the 7960G?

Maybe bridge the unused pairs with the data pairs?

I haven't tried it as I don't have any old style PoE, but it seems 
plausible.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Easiest (best?) linux distribution for dedicated Asterisk box?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk
First, remove telnet from your vocabulary.  It should only be used over 
serial connections these days.  All other times, you should be using ssh.


Second, do you want the computer to be installed and running without any 
major software changes for a year or more?  Then use Centos or Ubuntu 
Dapper 6.06 or Debian Sarge 3.1.  Make sure you don't install the 
graphics as it can affect the latency of asterisk, especially on older 
hardware.


Third, I run asterisk on a PPro 200 at home, so your machine is beefy 
enough for sure.


And lastly, just give it a try, you'll learn a lot just making the effort.

Mike

John Klimek wrote:

First off, I'm sorry for sending so many messages to the list-serv.
Hopefully this will be my last for a while!

I was going to use my WRT54G router as a small Asterisk box, but I
forgot that I had a spare eMachines computer (Intel Celeron 633 MHz,
20GB HD, 64mb RAM).  Will this machine work OK for a very simple
dedicated home Asterisk box?

Also, what is easiest linux distribution to use and install?  All I
want is a simple Asterisk box that I can telnet into and have
voicemail, music-on-hold (MP3), etc...
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IAX2 Vs SIP cpu load

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Patrick wrote:

On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 23:47 +0800, Dinesh Nair wrote:
  

On 06/13/06 22:49 Colin Anderson said the following:


Although this may have changed in the newer 1.2.X series of Asterisk, I
believe that Asterisk does not support SMP from the perspective of
  
isnt asterisk multithreaded ? on a proper OS thread implementation, threads 
can migrate across CPUs, can't they ?



Afaik in 1.2.x IAX is single threaded. In 1.4 it is multithreaded.
In 1.2.x IAX uses two threads.  One to send, and one to receive.  In 1.4 
it will use more threads, but I don't know what the new threading model 
for IAX will be though.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] spa3102 vs spa3000 differences?

2006-06-12 Thread Mike Fedyk

Steve Davies wrote:

On 6/12/06, Doug Crompton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It seems that any firmware is usable on any hardware as my hardware is
2.x. I wonder if 3102 firmware could be used on the 3000. Is the size 
the

same? I guess you would have to be willing to make a brick to find out!



I have not tried this, but on an spa2000, the firmware updater simply
made no changes when I tried to install some unsupported firmware.
Tim told me that if you change the DC adapter for one with a couple more 
amps the firmware flashes faster.


More  Power!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Hard drive write cache

2006-06-12 Thread Mike Fedyk

shadowym wrote:

Any other recommendations/links for increasing the reliability of Asterisk
servers?
Separate the various use cases of the filesystem into different volumes 
with LVM.  The parts that are not written to except during upgrades like 
/usr should be mounted read-only, and the various read/write sections 
like /var/spool/asterisk and /var/log should be on separate volumes also.


This keeps any corruption experienced localized to a small area, and 
keeps your binaries unquestionably safe from a power outage and the only 
step needed is automated detection and cleanup of the read/write volumes.


Write barriers allow you to keep write-cache turned on in the drives, 
and sends a command to the drive to reply when the data hits the 
platters.  Also if the drive doesn't support that, various techniques 
are used to verify the data is on the media and not in drive cache.  
Contact your distro support company and ask them if write-barriers have 
been implemented in the drivers for the drive controllers you are using, 
and if not, then either buy the hardware that does support that or 
sponsor them to update the driver to support write-barriers.


Also contact your distro support company to see if they have any 
recommendations for the setup you want.


Mike
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[Asterisk-Users] Reorganizing menus in Polycom 301? Was: [asterisk-biz] New Polycom SoundPoint Series IP-430

2006-06-10 Thread Mike Fedyk

Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:

Cory Andrews wrote:



 

IP430, will sit between the IP301 and IP501, IP430 will have dual 
Ethernet, PoE, and full duplex speakerphone.  List price (MSRP) $239 
street price should fall likely between IP301 and IP501.


That looks great, the 301 is almost useless due to the lack of speaker 
phone and message buttons.
Agreed and the menu organization sucks.  Anyone know if there are any 
hacks to change the menus in the IP301 phones?  I'm specifically looking 
for one or two button access to the redial list (reprogramming the 
redial to display dialed list and then have second press redial last 
number would be great).


Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXO registration and VegaStream

2006-06-10 Thread Mike Fedyk

Peter Doyle wrote:

I figured asterisk was looking for SIP user 06, so I added it, but I
still got 404's.  Turns out I just needed an EXTENSION, 06.  I can now
make calls and receive them, too.  Of course, if you have multiple
incoming lines, you'd need extension 06, 07, 08 ... etc, since each port
has its own Interface Number (by default), to allow routing of calls
made to different lines.

Yes, that's right.

You should specify a separate context for the incoming lines and if your 
port numbers relate to extensions do something like this:


exten = s,1,dial(sip/20${EXTEN},,o)

That way when you dial port 01 on the vegastream, it will ring on the 
sip extension 2001.


This page explains the s context more:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+s+extension
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fun with Echo

2006-06-09 Thread Mike Fedyk

Steve Davies wrote:

On 6/9/06, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Consider getting a Sangoma A200D
(http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/p_a200-specs) with the optional
hardware echo canceller module. It just works for echo cancellation;
no tweaks required. It takes a while to figure out how to install it,
but once it's working it's great!



Yes, I must agree that hardware echo cancellation from Sangoma (and I
am sure Digium and others) is excellent, but it does add to the cost
quite significantly sometimes.
If you haven't had your client sign a waiver that there maybe echo 
because of the cheap hardware, then don't use the tdm400p.  I've 
wondered why the software echo can in zaptel doesn't go up to 1024 taps 
and causes major problems at 256 taps.  The tdm400p cards don't have a 
high port density, you'd run out of slots before hitting CPU barriers so 
why not use some of those resources for an echo can with a longer tail?


Use either the sangoma cards with echo can, or get a tdm2400p with echo 
can.  You will have happier customers if you do.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Quad T1 Card

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:

- Matt Riddell (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

What does the onboard DSP do when used with Asterisk?  Did Digium or
someone put code inside Asterisk to hand off the
processing/transcoding
to a Sangoma card?



According the Sangoma data sheet, the Octasic part _is_ the DSP (which it is, 
in a logical sense). The board does not relieve Asterisk/Zaptel of any 
additional burden beyond echo cancellation and tone detection at this time; 
Asterisk/Zaptel don't know how to take advantage of any of the more advanced 
Octasic features yet.

And yes, when Digium's Octasic-based module starts shipping (currently in beta 
testing), it will offer the identical functionality, so I guess we can say our 
boards have 'DSP processing' too :-)
Will it have a 1024 tap echo can on all 96 channels?  What about 8 T1 
support like sangoma?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Quad T1 Card

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:

- Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Will it have a 1024 tap echo can on all 96 channels?  What about 8 T1
support like sangoma?



Those are completely unrelated questions; there is no need for an 8-span echo 
can module when there is no 8-span T1 card :-)

It uses the identical Octasic part as the Sangoma board does, so the 
capabilities will be the same in that regard.

Have you seen the A108?

http://www.sangoma.com/press/corporate/2006_04_05_A108_Card
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] a new asterisk version

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk

http://www.asterisk.org/download
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+Linux+CentOS

amna saleem wrote:

Hi All,
 
I need a suggestion.

I want to run only IAX on two windows based PCs and asterisk
Can you suggest which asterisk , libpri and zaptel versions should i use?
do i need some other modules also?
 
Also where will i find the guide to compile astreisk
 
Actually i have installed,comnpiled and used astreisk-1.0.3 on Red hat 
9 which was not that stable.

Now i have Red hat Enterprise on my PC.
i think there are newer stable versions which can run on Redhat 
Enterprise Linux.
 
Kindly help,
 
 
 



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk
I have a client who has about six of these phones.  Luckily (for me, not 
for them) they were purchased before I came into the picture.


Daniel Salama wrote:
I have heard complaints from my client about the speakerphone and they 
are now
You don't notice any problems when using the speaker-phone, but the 
person on the other end hears echo, and quite a lot of it.

, I guess, getting used to picking up the handset :).
My client uses them exclusively with headsets (in a call center) so the 
quality of the speaker-phone isn't an issue for them.
I have heard any echo problems so far. What bothers me the most is 
that the phone stops working often (multiple times per day). By this I 
mean that my client won't be able to dial anything successfully. As 
soon as 3 or 4 digits are entered, they get a fast busy. To solve it, 
they need to reboot it. It sounds as if these phones were running 
Windows instead of Linux :)
Do you have multiple phones going down at the same time?  If so, monitor 
them with qualify=500 in sip.conf to see if they hit that limit.  If 
you see more than one go down within a short period of time, you have 
network problems.  Check the quality of the network switches they have. 

Also I have heard some phones have trouble with broadcast packets (at 
least this has been said about the spa-841 on the wiki).  You should 
strongly consider putting them on a separate vlan to avoid any issues 
like that.  In the future, for phones under $100 then look at the 
spa-841 phones.


Anyway, what firmware did you use that solved so many of your problems?

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/GXP-2000

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk
What specifically were the voice quality complaints about the spa-841 
phones?  The only thing I have noticed is calls can be louder than 
expected.  What else have you seen?


Daniel Salama wrote:
They don't all go down at the same time, or at least, my client hasn't 
noticed. I just added the qualify option. Let's see how that goes.


As for the SPA-841, I have a client with a few of them and he cannot 
stop complaining about the bad audio quality. I replace a couple with 
a PAP-2 and another one with the GXP-2000 and he claims the quality to 
be incredibly better for both the PAP2 and the GXP-2000. He hasn't 
complained about the problems I mentioned on the GXP-2000 - yet :)


Thanks,
Daniel

On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Mike Fedyk wrote:

Do you have multiple phones going down at the same time?  If so, 
monitor them with qualify=500 in sip.conf to see if they hit that 
limit.  If you see more than one go down within a short period of 
time, you have network problems.  Check the quality of the network 
switches they have. 

Also I have heard some phones have trouble with broadcast packets (at 
least this has been said about the spa-841 on the wiki).  You should 
strongly consider putting them on a separate vlan to avoid any issues 
like that.  In the future, for phones under $100 then look at the 
spa-841 phones.






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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk
Did you try setting the RTP packet time size to 0.020?  Also I would 
look at the trunk, provider or internet connection before the phones I 
started suspecting the phones.


I have had the same problems with providers, and the conversations sound 
great from one location to another over the internet, but once it hits a 
provider, the sound quality drops.  That is not the fault of the 
phones.  Are you sure you didn't change anything else when you switched 
from the spa-841 phones?


Daniel Salama wrote:
The complete opposite. The user complaints that either they cannot 
hear the remote party well or the remote party cannot hear them well. 
Sometimes it works and sometimes the volume is very low and that's why 
they cannot hear.


- Daniel

On Jun 7, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Mike Fedyk wrote:

What specifically were the voice quality complaints about the spa-841 
phones?  The only thing I have noticed is calls can be louder than 
expected.  What else have you seen?




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[Asterisk-Users] Good ATAs from companies other than Sipura/Linksys?

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk
First of all, I'm not knocking Sipura/Linksys.  I have heard very good 
things about their products.


I'm just wondering if they are the only quality shop on the market.  I 
know about the zoom 5801 where you can't dial out the FXO from SIP, only 
from the FXS port.  And I have heard similar about the HT-488 also.


I want to know if anyone else makes ATAs where all of the features work 
as advertised.  If it has two FXS ports, I want to be able to use both 
at once, from Asterisk, same for T.38 and etc.


So, what's out there that I don't know about in the world of quality ATAs?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk

John Novack wrote:
Is the 94x any better? seems without backlighting, any are next to 
useless.
Yes, I like the 941 better than the Polycom 301 and the display is much 
improved (no backlight, but one of the guys at voipsupply told me that 
the 942 has a backlight which sounds very promising).  The base for the 
941 is more angled like the polycom phones and it is bigger and heavier 
so it doesn't move around as much.  And the buttons have a very nice feel.


With the list of phones I have used, here is how I would choose them 
(first being better):


Polycom 501
Linksys spa-941
Polycom 301
Sipura/Linksys spa-841
Grandstream GXP-2000
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kerry Garrison wrote:

I would never ever ever sell a client on a SPA-841 or heaven forbid the
GXP-2000. All the clients who bought those originally sold them off and went
for better phones very quickly.
Let me say that when suggesting the spa-841 it is only in the context of 
sub-$100 phones.


I hadn't worked with any spa-841s before, but when my client wanted 
cheaper phones than the 941s that I suggested, I strongly warned them 
that from what I had seen, about 50% of them are returned.  But they 
insisted and I have to say that the phones are not *that* bad.  There a 
lot of things I like about them that I don't like about my polycom 301 
(though most of my gripes with the 301 could be fixed by remapping some 
of the buttons and make call lists available with one button press, so 
it's not a hardware deficiency except for the lack of speakerphone and 
backlight).


Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GXP-2000

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Fedyk
I have heard good things about the D-Link DES-1226G switch ($150 at 
newegg).  If you can run a separate cable to the computer and phone.  If 
you can't run the extra cables, then configure your phone to tag itself 
as part of the voip vlan and let the switch tag everything else as the 
computer vlan.


I happen to have asterisk running as a router, so I use it doing QoS 
with tc (traffic control) and wondershaper set to prioritize based on 
port ranges.  I sent a patch to the debian bug tracking system a while 
back with a few improvements -- I should check on that.  It basically 
prioritizes smaller packets before larger packets with ~8 levels of 
priority and groups of sizes for the packets.  Just doing that 
automatically handles 80% of the need for prioritization without 
specifying port ranges for the sip rtp packets.


Mike

Daniel Salama wrote:
They are extremely casual web surfers. Just have their Outlook client 
opened checking email every minute. Email traffic is very low.


They are all connected to the same switch. It's a Netopia DSL 
router/modem/switch for the BellSouth DSL service. The computers are 
connected to the PC port behind the GXP-2000.


Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Daniel

On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:49 PM, list mail wrote:

What do they do on the internet? Heavy surfing, large transfers, 
myspace. 
How are these units connected to the network? Are they passing 
through the same switch?

I don't think it is the phones...

On Jun 7, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Daniel Salama wrote:


Mike,

I added a qualify=500 on those phones. My client has peers 100218 
thru 100222 (a total of 5 phones). Below is the messages log since I 
activated it this morning at 8:30AM:


Jun  7 10:59:21 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100219' is now TOO 
LAGGED! (1075ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 10:59:31 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100219' is now 
REACHABLE! (66ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 11:02:32 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100219' is now TOO 
LAGGED! (1075ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 11:02:42 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100219' is now 
REACHABLE! (68ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 11:35:15 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100222' is now TOO 
LAGGED! (1114ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 11:35:25 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100222' is now 
REACHABLE! (90ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 11:48:20 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100219' is now TOO 
LAGGED! (1077ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 11:48:30 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100219' is now 
REACHABLE! (72ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 12:24:51 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100221' is now TOO 
LAGGED! (1077ms / 500ms)
Jun  7 12:25:01 NOTICE[3648] chan_sip.c: Peer '100221' is now 
REACHABLE! (73ms / 500ms)


As you can see, it only happens to a couple of their phones and at 
random times. They're behind a DSL circuit. I don't know if it's 
because their DSL line is going up/down. They don't necessarily 
claim their Internet goes down, however, they are not constantly 
check it.


What would you (or anyone else) suggest?

Thanks,
Daniel

On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Mike Fedyk wrote:

Do you have multiple phones going down at the same time?  If so, 
monitor them with qualify=500 in sip.conf to see if they hit that 
limit.  If you see more than one go down within a short period of 
time, you have network problems.  Check the quality of the network 
switches they have. 


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec

2006-06-05 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:

- Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

IMO, locking the licensing to a piece of system thats often built-in,
has 
been very annoying.  I think I'd be happier if it was locked to some
sort 
of dongle (parallel, or more likely today, USB).  At least that way,
we 
could easily move the key anytime we needed to.  It would be a bit of
a 
pain any time a system needed to quickly be transfered to hardware
already 
at another location.



I have proposed that a number of times internally, only to be told (vehemently) 
that customers would never go for it. That includes responses from our 
distributors and channel partners, among others. It would also dramatically 
increase the cost for people buying one or two licenses, so it would have be an 
'alternate' registration means if it existed.
How hard is it to use a removable ethernet card for this type of usage?  
Also a USB ethernet if with Linux drivers should be usable for the 1U 
rackmount use case where all internal slots are in use.


Most of the complaints should be able to be remedied by and update in 
docs for recommended implementation (removable ethernet, either PCI or USB).


And just make sure the g729 codec can see those ethernet ports.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Looking for postpaid quality A-Z termination

2006-06-05 Thread Mike Fedyk

In other words, please post your message to asterisk-biz instead.

Martin Joseph wrote:

What part of NON-COMMERCIAL do you not understand?

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Adding Asterisk between existing phone system and PSTN Re: [Asterisk-Users] Integrating Asterisk

2006-06-03 Thread Mike Fedyk

Dakota Burns wrote:

What I was attempting to visualize is the following case:
10 people in an organization pick-up their phones to make an outbound 
call.  Before integrating Asterisk, all calls route through their 
current non-VoIP based phone provider.  After  integrating 1 trunk 
from a VoIP service provider  into their system that provides 4 
simultaneous calls (Teliax's Corporate plan)
First of all, don't use a service that limits the number of calls.  Get 
the per minute plan.  That way you won't have to worry about hitting any 
soft-caps.

, and dropping 4 legacy lines
Don't drop the lines until you have a setup that works reliably without 
hickups for at least 3 months (more if you can convince them to keep the 
lines that long).
, if 10 people make calls simultaneously, some will be VoIP and some 
will be legacy based.  Based on the above example, I'm questioning 
whether it would be best to configure a Sipura 3000 for every analog 
phone (I'm guessing  the non-profits will want to keep their existing 
analog phones)
Only use ATAs when you have to.  They cost about $80 anyway, why not get 
a spa-841 instead?  And why are you guessing?  You should know if they 
want to keep the phones they have.  And what type of phones are they?
, or utilize another device (or devices) to connect the company's 
internet service into their existing Trunks or POTS.  I think the 
former would be easier  something I know how to do, but the latter 
may be smarter  more cost effective.  So the latter is what I'm 
questioning whether either of you have experience implementing. 
Let me be frank.  I'm relatively new to phone systems, but I can tell 
you need to do a lot more research before even thinking about doing an 
implementation.


If you want to keep the analog phones, they probably already go to a 
wiring closet.  You'll want to put either an asterisk box with a 
tdm2400p with 12 FXS and 12 FXO (look up the tdm2400p before asking why 
I say 12 instead of 10).  Or if you have voice T1s at that location you 
may want a channel bank instead.  I haven't used any channel banks so 
others will have to step in to give suggestions on that.


My point is that you need to post what you want your client's results to 
be instead of how to do what you think should be done.  The details I 
mentioned above are only part of one possible direction to go in, and 
there is more to it than that also and it may not even be the best for 
your situation too. 

Have you looked at their network to see if can handle the large number 
of small packets that voip produces?  What about their Internet 
connection? What is it that your client wants in a phone system that 
their current one isn't doing?  How is adding asterisk and an ATA for 
each analog phone going to help?


So, post what you already have and what you want the end result to be 
from an end-user's perspective and we can probably point you in the 
right direction.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom-Asterisk hints/presence

2006-06-02 Thread Mike Fedyk
How do you setup asterisk so that the assistant sees the lights but 
doesn't hear the rings?


picciuX wrote:
damon, i think many guys here missed your point and went away from it. 
What you want to do is possible: i managed to do that using a GXP-2000 
with beta firmare and asterisk 1.2.0.
GXP correctly processes the status change messages and show a 
blinking led for the BLF of a ringing extension. The GXP, when you 
press a blinking BLF, dials out the blf extension prefixed with 
'**'. In the dialplan i only needed to do a:


exten = _**XXX,1,Pickup(${EXTEN:2})

to answer the ringing remote extension.
So, IMHO, it's only a matter of the phone. This is not a true shared 
line, but does its job well letting an assistant answer his boss' phone.
AFAIK, Snoms do a similar thing, dialing out *8BLF extension when 
pressing a ringing button.


Hope this helps

2006/6/2, Damon Estep [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 

  I think there was a patch that went in recently from Mark with
regard
 to SIP devices and their state when they are ringing/in use and when
 they are just in use. That may help you with what you're asking
 about.

Let's assume for a minute that there is a way to get a ringing notify,
and that the Polycom processes the messages and properly displays the
status, then;

1. A hint could be setup that monitors the sip user.
2. the hint could have a unique extension
3. the dialplan for the extension could be a call pickup sequence.

Example (without regard for correct syntax)

Exten 123,hint,SIP/345
Exten,123,1,(Need help here - if sip/345 is idle then goto
priority 3)
Exten 123,2,Pickup(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Exten 123,3,Dial(SIP/345)

Now, on the Polycom

1. setup a buddy with the correct display name for exten 345, but
with,
but with a contact address of 123
2. turn on presence monitoring (buddy watch in Polycom terms)

Do you see the value in knowing that an extensions is ringing via
presence?

Take it one step further, ask Polycom to implement a feature where the
presence status of ringing can produce an audible event instead of
only
visual events. That is, if it does not already, which I have no
idea on.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom-Asterisk hints/presence

2006-06-01 Thread Mike Fedyk

Damon Estep wrote:

I understand your technology agnostic position, and it makes sense,
however my vote (for the little that it is worth) would be to implement
a SIP rfc complaint shared line appearance capability (and/or bridged
line appearance), and then, if possible, extend it to support zaptel and
iax and whatever else is popular. SIP is arguably the most common choice
for NEW VoIP implementation, and it also appears to be the common ground
upon which all vendors of VoIP gear will meet for interoperability. IAX,
even with its advantages, will not likely progress to the same stage of
universal acceptance, it may very well be the choice of many asterisk
users, but in the end you will still have to talk SIP interoperate with
the VoIP Revolution

Ok, let me jump in and explain it a different way.

The way asterisk works is it abstracts concepts from protocol details.  
For instance let's say a protocol like SIP or IAX is a human language 
(and what is a protocol except for a means of communication between 
computers like language is a means of communication between humans?).  
They both have concepts for the concept of walk but the English and 
Chinese languages implement it very differently.


I think the part that most people are missing is being able to monitor 
the status of another extension (not channel, since channels are only in 
use during calls) and ringing multiple phones simultaneously can easily 
be done with queues or dialing multiple extensions from the dial() command.


Now let's say all languages (protocols) have the base functionality of 
lighting a call appearance when it is in use, and blinking it when it is 
ringing.  Then an assistant can know when their boss is on the phone or 
not at a glance.  These base concepts need to be implemented in the core 
so that they can be interpreted by the protocols (languages) into the 
specifics of what hits the wire.


So, that is why it must go into core and then that needs to be exposed 
to the protocols.  The hardest part is finding the right abstraction so 
the concept (core) can be translated properly into the various languages 
(protocols).


And not one reference to a car or driving. ;)  How's that?

Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] addons trunk make error

2006-06-01 Thread Mike Fedyk
There are too many changes happening in trunk to constantly update 
-addons to work with it.  Once things settle down a bit, they will bring 
-addons up to date.


This has been repeated a few times in asterisk-dev recently.  Did you 
google for asterisk trunk addons compile?


Damon Estep wrote:


Anyone run a make on asterisk-addons /trunk r219 ?

 

I error out on mp3 on a FC4 box, and I do not see anything obvious (to 
me) in the errors.




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SMP kernel on Pent 4?

2006-04-24 Thread Mike Fedyk

Rich Adamson wrote:
Had a Pent 4 server running fc3 crash (kernel panic) and am rebuilding 
from scratch. I installed FreePBX (CentOs) from scratch and asterisk 
was running, but had not yet been configured. It too crashed with a 
kernel panic. Ran memtest for 24 hours; no errors or issues uncovered.


I then noticed that FreePBX installed using a SMP kernel (and grub 
indicated a non-SMP kernel was installed as well).


Would running an SMP kernel on a Pent 4 potentially cause a kernel 
panic? (Or, do I need to dig somewhere else?)


Nothing in the logs to suggest a root cause and I'm now waiting on 
recurrence using the non-SMP kernel.
Were you able to see an oops message when it crashed?  If not, then make 
sure a X11 server isn't running, and turn on nmi_watchdog.


The easiest way to capture the oops is with a serial console, but hand 
typing the text into another computer or a snapshot has worked in the 
past also.  Then post your results.


Also check the system temp with lm_sensors and the quality of your 
drives with smartctl.


Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Two asterisk process in one hardware.

2006-04-24 Thread Mike Fedyk

Juan Salas wrote:

Hello.

Has anybody knows how run two asterisk process
in one hardware? (each one with its own configuration?)

What end outcome do you want?  Maybe there is another way to do it...
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stability of Asterisk with 2 x TDM400P cards (6 analogue lines)

2006-03-27 Thread Mike Fedyk
I have a client with an installation with 3 TDM400P cards.  6 FXO, 6FXS 
ports.


I followed the txgain/rxgain instructions and now have no echo 
problems.  The only problem I have now is the flaky network the SIP 
phones are accessing asterisk with.  (you should see the wiring there, ugh).


It's in a dell p4 desktop system.  I don't recall the model, but I can 
find out when I give them a visit next (or if you'd like lspci output I 
can do that now..)


Mike

Jared Davison wrote:

I would like to hear from anyone good or bad as what their experience has
been in recent times with STABILITY of current builds of Asterisk and
drivers for TDM400P.

The sort of configuration is: 6 incoming POTS lines. ie. 2 TDM400P cards.

I am not concerned with: price points, or the advantages or disadvantages of
using POTS vs ISDN technology, but simply RELIABILITY  stability of the
Asterisk system  associated interface hardware and drivers.

Do people need to reboot their systems regularly?

Thanks in advance.


Jared



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Mediatrix windows-based setup?

2006-01-16 Thread Mike Fedyk
No, you replied to a message from Vladimir Montealegre with the subject 
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RJ21-RJ11.


That is called thread hijacking.

You may sort your mail by date, but others use a feature called 
threading.  It keeps track of who replied to what message to be able to 
see a conversation in several email messages.  If you reply to a message 
instead of creating a new message, it really messes up the threading.


Please don't do that.

Kerry Garrison wrote:


What are you talking about? That is the address I used.
-Kerry


 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Tomislav Parcina

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:22 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Mediatrix windows-based setup?

Please stop replaying to mesage. If you plan to open thread 
do so by writing mail to this address asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Failover Device?

2006-01-13 Thread Mike Fedyk

Matt wrote:


On 1/12/06, Tomislav Parcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
   


First,
Something seems to be wrong with the list.  I'm not the only person
who has expressed seeing their messages either arrive late, or not at
all.
 


I'm sure that I'm not the only person that has notice that there is lots
of people that start new thread by replaying to old message. That way
neither them, or lots of other people, sees that mail as new therad.
   



Yeah I've noticed that too.. I don't do that though.

Ok on to the question at hand.  I am trying to fail over asterisk.  I
have PRI redundancy.  What I need, however, is someway to transfer the
PRI from asterisk box A to asterisk box B if asterisk box A fails.  So
while, yes, I can build a second asterisk box and use SER, or DNS or
whatever to point my sip devices to it... the question is how do I get
the PRIs to know which box to route to?
 

Check out red fone.  It is designed to work with Asterisk in a HA 
configuration.  Though, if you only have one, it will become the single 
point of failure.  It's about the same price as a TE411P with echo 
cancellation.

http://www.red-fone.com/fonebridge.html

You have two PRIs already, that can be used for fail-over.  Put a TE110P 
in each server (or TE411P if you need echo cancellation in the card or 
plan on expanding) in each server.  If one fails you have your provider 
send calls to the other PRI if one fails.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Nested MySQL Commands

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Fedyk

Connection pooling doesn't require threading.

You can also use a pool of processes which are quite cheap on Linux.

Douglas Garstang wrote:


Do you have a link to where it says this? The DBI docs that I looked at 
(perldoc dbi) said that it isn't thread-safe.

-Original Message-
From: Leo Ann Boon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:50 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Nested MySQL Commands


Douglas Garstang wrote:

 


I also don't believe perl DBI is thread safe


   

The lastest docs says that DBI does support multithread connection 
pooling. Otherwise, you are always free to implement your AGI in 
'modern' :) programming languages like Java or C# that support threads 
and pooling.


 

	-Original Message- 
	From: Douglas Garstang 
	Sent: Wed 1/11/2006 9:08 PM 
	To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Nested MySQL Commands



Since about 1992... and the Asterisk docs for FastAGI are pretty 
rotten. But that's ok, I've come to expect that.

		-Original Message- 
		From: Kevin P. Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
		Sent: Wed 1/11/2006 8:11 PM 
		To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
		Cc: 
		Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Nested MySQL Commands




Douglas Garstang wrote:
 I don't get the whole concept of FastAGI. It's nothing 
special. Asterisk just opens a connection to a TCP port instead of executing a 
binary.

How long have you been around Unix/Linux systems? Do you have 
any clue
how much less expensive it is to open a TCP socket as compared 
to
forking the Asterisk process, exec()-ing another program, 
having that
program open database/web connections, etc.?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nested MySQL Commands

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Fedyk

Simone Cittadini wrote:


Douglas Garstang ha scritto:

So I really wish there was some way to measure how well the worst 
case scenario would perform. This would be 120 simultaneous calls 
(don't know how many per second) on a Dual 3.8Ghz Dell PowerEdge 1850 
with 2GB RAM. Asterisk would call an AGI script, written in perl, to 
route all calls. The script would have to perform multiple database 
queries in order to route a call.
 

It will work if you need no transcoding, I tested a python agi doing 
something like 6 query to accept / instradate the call and it works 
for 150 / 200 simultaneous calls, the machine starts sweating of 
course, but the voice quality is still good, no drops.
Mine is just a quick prototype, using fastagi or writing the agi in C 
is surely the way to go, imho fastagi will let you have a more 
configurable / customizable system since you can write the application 
in a object oriented language.


Also an ugly hack would be to call the perl bytecode instead of the text 
script.  That would allow for the ease of AGI (everything is cleaned up 
when the process exits) with lower overhead.


FastAGI is of course what you want for production, but this can help in 
a pinch.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nested MySQL Commands

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Fedyk

Andreas Sikkema wrote:


Is it possible to have nested MySQL queries in extensions.conf?

Ie, perform a query, grab a value, and then jump to another 
location in the dialplan and do another query based on that 
original value. I'm having problems with the result and 
fetchid's and I'm not sure if it's even possible to do this or not.
   



Just make sure that you use different variable names for each 
query if the values should stay available after the next query.


What we tend to do is grab the data from the database and the stuff 
that should stay around for a longer time is assigned to a new and 
appropriately named variable. So the original variable can be used 
again.
 

I'd rather use a hash (also called associative arrays in other 
languages) instead of calling eval to assign a variable.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nested MySQL Commands

2006-01-11 Thread Mike Fedyk

Chris Albertson wrote:


Under Linux (and other OSes) It's not as bad as that.  Even with
128 Perl processes running there is only one copy of the Perl
interpeter in memory.  Each of the 128 running processes would
have it's own copy of only it's data segments.  With Perl
already in memory the biggest system overhead would be
process creation.

The best design is the one that minimizes the number of
process that the kernel has to create.  Notice that this is
why the Apache Perl modual is so much faster than using
Perl from a CGI script

You will get the best usage of shared pages if all child interpreted 
processes fork off of one parent process.  That way they can share as 
many data pages as possible also.


If they don't fork off of each other, then a new copy of the interpreter 
will be put into memory.  There will be some shared CoW pages between 
them, but not nearly as many when compared forking off of a common pool 
of processes.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Nested MySQL Commands

2006-01-11 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tony Mountifield wrote:


In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Peter,

Too slow! We're going to potentially be doing several MySQL lookups for routing 
even the
most basic of calls, and if every one of those queries has to make a call out 
to an AGI
script, it would become a performance problem.
   



AGI is only slow if you're calling it repeatedly and implementing it in
a scripting language that needs a big interpreter.

I have had great success writing AGIs in C and interfacing to MySQL
from within them. They end up nice and small and fast. A single AGI
invocation does all the database transactions necessary to decide
on the disposition of the call, and then jumps to the appropriate
extension and priority in the dialplan.

And if you like writing your AGIs in interpreted languages, there is 
always FastAGI.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nested MySQL Commands

2006-01-11 Thread Mike Fedyk
The most expensive part about perl is the init time.  So you either want 
to find out how many calls per minute or most likely want FastAGI which 
eliminates this problem entirely.


I wonder if FastAGI handles process pools, or if the FastAGIs need to 
handle sub-processes or threading.


Douglas Garstang wrote:


So I really wish there was some way to measure how well the worst case scenario 
would perform. This would be 120 simultaneous calls (don't know how many per 
second) on a Dual 3.8Ghz Dell PowerEdge 1850 with 2GB RAM. Asterisk would call 
an AGI script, written in perl, to route all calls. The script would have to 
perform multiple database queries in order to route a call.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fedyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:27 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nested MySQL Commands


Chris Albertson wrote:

 


Under Linux (and other OSes) It's not as bad as that.  Even with
128 Perl processes running there is only one copy of the Perl
interpeter in memory.  Each of the 128 running processes would
have it's own copy of only it's data segments.  With Perl
already in memory the biggest system overhead would be
process creation.

The best design is the one that minimizes the number of
process that the kernel has to create.  Notice that this is
why the Apache Perl modual is so much faster than using
Perl from a CGI script

   

You will get the best usage of shared pages if all child interpreted 
processes fork off of one parent process.  That way they can share as 
many data pages as possible also.


If they don't fork off of each other, then a new copy of the interpreter 
will be put into memory.  There will be some shared CoW pages between 
them, but not nearly as many when compared forking off of a common pool 
of processes.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Nested MySQL Commands

2006-01-11 Thread Mike Fedyk
Yes, but the AGI process doesn't die, it stays running.  If it stops for 
some reason, asterisk will start it again.


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FastAGI
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=142

Douglas Garstang wrote:


I don't get the whole concept of FastAGI. It's nothing special. Asterisk just 
opens a connection to a TCP port instead of executing a binary.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fedyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:32 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Nested MySQL Commands


Tony Mountifield wrote:

 


In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   


Peter,

Too slow! We're going to potentially be doing several MySQL lookups for routing 
even the
most basic of calls, and if every one of those queries has to make a call out 
to an AGI
script, it would become a performance problem.
  

 


AGI is only slow if you're calling it repeatedly and implementing it in
a scripting language that needs a big interpreter.

I have had great success writing AGIs in C and interfacing to MySQL
   


from within them. They end up nice and small and fast. A single AGI
 


invocation does all the database transactions necessary to decide
on the disposition of the call, and then jumps to the appropriate
extension and priority in the dialplan.

   

And if you like writing your AGIs in interpreted languages, there is 
always FastAGI.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SoCal Users Group Meeting Schedule

2006-01-10 Thread Mike Fedyk
Forwarded to OCLUG, LUGIE  UUASC which have members that have expressed 
interest in asterisk.


Mike

Kerry Garrison wrote:


The SoCal Asterisk Users Group will be meeting at the Heritage Park Public
Library on the corner of Walnut and Yale in Irvine on the 3rd Thursday every
month. The following dates are already secured:

Thurs Jan 19
Thurs Feb 16
Thurs Mar 17

Irvine Heritage Park Library
(949) 936-4040
14361 Yale Ave
Irvine, CA 92604
Google Directions: http://tinyurl.com/9vq3e



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Still an open Seat in London for Next Weeks Signate intro to Asterisk Course

2006-01-10 Thread Mike Fedyk

It might be easier to dig instead.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I would love to be there, but it's just too far to drive.

regards,

PaulH

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com; asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:24 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Still an open Seat in London for Next Weeks
Signate intro to Asterisk Course


 


We still have a seat open in our Asterisk training course next week in
London. You can find more information at our Web site, www.signate.com

I'm going to be teaching the class.

Paul

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Pri Gateway Hardware

2006-01-10 Thread Mike Fedyk

Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:


Alexander Lopez a écrit :

TDMoE is stable and stale, There is no more development planed or 
needed as it only opens up a pipe between two ethernet points using 
Layer 2.
 

OK... What would be in the advantage in running TDMoE rather than 
using IAX or SIP?


TDMoE should allow for simpler firmware as it allows Asterisk to handle 
all of the details and just handles transferring the TDM data and 
failover in case of Asterisk server failure.


It's about the same price as a TE411P and doesn't take a slot in your 
server(s).

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] new AMPortal and Asterisk debs

2006-01-09 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:


On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:16:16PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
 


Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

   


Experimental: Asterisk 1.2:
At the moment they are not that experimental anymore and should be ready
for use, but are not well-tested yet.

To use it, define both sources:

deb  http://rapid.dotsrc.org/ experimental/


 

How does this compare with Asterisk 1.2.1.dfsg-1 that is in etch/testing 
and 1.2.1.dfsg-3 that is in sid/unstable?
   



Testing (Etch) is slightly behind. It is generally in line with the
packages in Sid. Sort of. Actually ff you compare the changelog you'll 
find some striking similarities. In fact, it is based on the current 
version in the pkg-voip svn than to the current version.


However it is built for Sarge (Stable). So if you have Sarge installed,
you won't have to upgrade libc6/pgsql/pwdlib/whatever to use it.

I try to commit most of the relevant changes and fixes to the main 
Debian package, so if you have Sid/Etch, you'll end up getting basically

the same packages (only with a more changing base system...) .
 


I didn't know you are a co-maintainer until now since I just checked.

How much longer before this is on backports.org?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk vs 3COM

2006-01-09 Thread Mike Fedyk
Small, medium and large are relative.  What do you want it to do, and 
why do you want to change your phone system?  With the right talent, 
(consultant or in-house) Asterisk can be used in most situations.   With 
that no more details, then a simple answer will have to suffice.


Most likely yes.

Dakota wrote:


Would anyone recommend a medium size company choosing Asterisk over 3COM

- Original Message - From: Kerry Garrison 
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Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:23 PM
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If you try to compare Asterisk to other PBX's TODAY, Asterisk is running
somewhere close to 0%. Its simply too new still as most companies didn't
even begin taking a look until version 1.0 and even more with 1.2. Of 
course

this will change over time. We are selling several systems a month right
now. So if you are looking at getting a job today, it may be a little 
rough,

but if you spend the next year honing your Asterisk skills more and more
positions will open up.

Kerry Garrison
Director of Technical Services
Tech Data Pros - Orange County's Mobile IT Service Provider
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-Original Message-
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Douglas Garstang
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:48 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion;
Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs

I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring
Asterisk seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice,
monster, careerbuilder etc, I was surprised to find no more
than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk throughout the US.

Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of
opportunities for Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh...
GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if demand will increase, or
am I just looking in the wrong places?

- Doug.





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialogic VFX/41JCT-LS found i a drawer

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk




From: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Hardware


  Dialogic
D/41JCT-LS
Note: The D/41JCT-LS is a full duplex card and is the first of the D/41
family that will work with Asterisk. Older D/41 cards like D/41(E)PCI
are half duplex cards designed for IVR type applications so they won't
work for VoIP applications where you'd want to be able to to process
both an incoming and outgoing stream simultaneouly. 
  Note: Licenses for the D/41JCT-LS Asterisk drivers need to be
purchased from Digium.



Erick Perez wrote:
I just found a Dialogic VFX/41JCT-LS (4 analog ports) in a
drawer. I can use it in my house with asterisk at home project.
Can I use that with asterisk?
Where can I download proper drivers?
  
  
-- 
  
---
Erick Perez
Linux User 376588
  http://counter.li.org/(Get
counted!!!)
Panama, Republic of Panama
  

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] new AMPortal and Asterisk debs

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:


Experimental: Asterisk 1.2:
At the moment they are not that experimental anymore and should be ready
for use, but are not well-tested yet.

To use it, define both sources:

 deb  http://rapid.dotsrc.org/ experimental/
 

How does this compare with Asterisk 1.2.1.dfsg-1 that is in etch/testing 
and 1.2.1.dfsg-3 that is in sid/unstable?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:


JCC wrote:

I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? VOIP 
calls are
pretty inexpensive as they are now. Is the use of a gateway intended 
as a

backup incase a wired network connection goes down? I have being looking
around the net for information on this. Anyone out there using it and 
if so
you can please share with me how you use this technology? Any 
information

will be appreciated.



As you have seen from the other responses, there are advantages to 
this (and carriers support it) in other parts of the world.  In the 
USA there isn't much need for such a device since calls to cell phones 
and calls to landlines cost the same amount.  In other parts of the 
world a call to a cell phone is MUCH more expensive that calls to a 
landline.


In many parts of Europe if you have a GSM gateway then the cell phones 
can become part of your Centrex system.


They have their advantages in the US also.  For instance, if you have 
your cell phones with a carrier that has free calls to the same network, 
then you can drastically reduce bills with a callback system.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Processor Update?

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

Mike Hammett wrote:

I've been Googling around for some time now (a few hours on dial-up).  
I find all kinds of questions similar to mine, but either there is no 
answer or the answer has nothing to do with the question.  Hopefully 
this post isn't another one of those.
 
Does Asterisk favor FPU performance or clock speed?  (Meaning AMD or 
Intel)


In this instance I think you're asking the wrong question.  Asterisk 
will scale better on a processor that handles branching better, so the 
AMDs with the shorter pipelines will help here a lot.


I see Asterisk can be compiled for x64 systems.  Does it run any 
better\worse on x64 versus i386?


I have heard good reports from x64 systems.  Especially the AMD variety 
that isn't drain bamaged.


Dual-core CPU performance isn't as good as dual CPU's, but is more 
often than not a better deal as it's close, but a lot cheaper.  
Dual-core vs. Dual CPU performance depends on the application.  How 
does Asterisk respond?
 
Looking to build out a system capable of 100 concurrent calls (IP 
pass-through, so in effect 200).  Looking at the dimensioning, I can 
get some ideas, but few of them state the call quality.  I'm hoping to 
be able to use a single CPU that is dual core as the price to go to a 
dual CPU that is single core puts me at least 60% to a redundant server.


Asuming no AGI, a single p4 will handle 200 calls.


 More information about the setup
--
No cards of any kind (Tyan board with integrated video, NIC, SATA 
nothing more needed)

some IAX2 trunks (ztdummy)
mainly SIP clients, but an increasing number of IAX2
mainly ulaw\alaw, if not solely (the transcoding chews CPU cycles 
needlessly)


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[Asterisk-Users] FastAGI available?

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk
Is there anything like FastCGI for Asterisk so that AGIs can have 
persistent processes?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Non-PRI T1

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

David Sampson wrote:


Hello –

I have a non-PRI T1


[...]


How do I take incoming calls on these same channels?


You should get a PRI T1.

The minute you get close to capacity on this line you will run into 
timing issues with incoming and outgoing lines competing with each 
other. This problem will only happen when you need it most, which is the 
worst failure case.


Unless your usage never spikes above 50% usage (counting incoming *and* 
outgoing) on this line you will regret not using a PRI.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP permit/deny

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

Douglas Garstang wrote:

I have the following in sip.conf. It was my understanding that this configuration (ie with deny/permit) would only allow connections from hosts 192.168.10.4 and 192.168.10.5. That doesn't seem to be the case. Asterisk is accepting INVITE's from other addresses. 


[a00090101]
type=friend
context=Company1
username=a00090101
;secret=180
;insecure=very
host=dynamic
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
deny=0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
permit=192.168.10.4/255.255.255.0
permit=192.168.10.5/255.255.255.0
 


Change your netmask to 255.255.255.255 or if possible use CIDR (/32).
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Re: Using *RT for HA purposes was: [Asterisk-Users] Realtime Multiple Asterisk boxes, iaxusers

2006-01-04 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:

If the two servers service distinctly separate groups of endpoints, 
they can share the same table since they won't care about the other 
server's entries. If the two servers service the same endpoints but in 
an active/passive arrangement, that would also work.


Can the various *RT servers be configured to use different tables so 
there won't be any conflicts even if there is any client overlap between 
the servers?


What I'm thinking of in this instance is active/active failover.  
Example:  The HA system detects a peer has failed, fences it and then 
instructs asterisk to take over the registrations in table X that the 
failed peer was using.


How close is this example to reality with *RT?
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Re: Using *RT for HA purposes was: [Asterisk-Users] Realtime Multiple Asterisk boxes, iaxusers

2006-01-04 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:


Mike Fedyk wrote:

Can the various *RT servers be configured to use different tables so 
there won't be any conflicts even if there is any client overlap 
between the servers?



Yes, but I'm not sure how you'd manage failover in that situation then.


I was thinking of taking over the table when the other server fails and 
releasing once it is back up.  What do you think?


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FC3 or FC1 (or something else?)

2006-01-04 Thread Mike Fedyk

Brett, Gary wrote:


From what ive read on this list and the wiki, centos 4.x has issues with the

TE110P card ( a lot of people having issues after first reboot).Would 3.5 be
better (I know [EMAIL PROTECTED] uses this) 


Am I right in saying that OS's with the 1.6 kernel still require a lot more
tinkering than those with the 1.4 kernel ?? Does anybody know what Digiums
stance on OS is , I remember speaking to them about 6 months ago and they
were recommending a 1.4 kernel version of Debian. 

Are there any specific disadvantages to running 1.4 kernel ??, 


I presume you mean 2.4 and 2.6.

Six months ago the Stable release of Debian couldn't run 2.6 kernels 
without installing a few updated packages from their backports.org 
repository.  There has been a release since then that includes native 
2.6 support.


There are many areas where 2.6 improves upon 2.4 from processor and 
interrupt scalability to latency improvements.  I would recommend any 
new server be installed with a 2.6 kernel unless there is some workload 
that requires a specific 2.4 kernel.  I believe most of those were 
removed with the 2.6.5 to 2.6.8 anonVMA changes by Andrea.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Dell blade servers

2006-01-04 Thread Mike Fedyk

Matt Riddell wrote:


Alistair Cunningham wrote:
 


We've been asked to quote for a large cluster running Asterisk and our
ITSP in a box product. The system will be SIP throughout, with mixed
codecs.

We're considering using Dell blade servers, 1855 or similar, on the
grounds that we normally use Dell machines and they work well, but we
need higher rack density.

Has anyone used these? Any feedback on whether they're
good/bad/indifferent? What scalability do you get on simple SIP-SIP
forwarding either with or without RTP passing through Asterisk?

   



I would instead recommend the SuperMicro 1U servers - we have had a really
great run with these.
 


Do you use Opteron or Intel?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IAX termination services

2006-01-04 Thread Mike Fedyk




If you are not big enough to have your own domain, then you don't need
a disclaimer.
This e-mail transmission may contain information that is non-proprietary,
unprivileged and/or non-confidential and is intended exclusively to provide a clue
to Jason D. Wolfe. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any
person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's
designees is strictly allowed. If you are not the intended recipient or
their designee, please distribute immediately so that people who try to wrap
a contract around an insecure medium as a means of security will wisen up.



Jason D. Wolfe wrote:

  I'm a newbie to Asterisk and telecom, and I I learned the hard way that
analog POTS lines cause asterisk to start your dialplan as soon as the
outbound starts ringing... that's why I was a little nervous about whether
or not I may have the same problem using an IAX termination service.  As it
turns out, it works perfectly, as they do provide 'answer supervision' (like
all digital lines).

as well, I'm not going to erase my disclaimer below every time I send an
email to a listserv.  It does say 'person(s) to whom it is addressed', which
keeps it from being completely senseless! :) and, I do NOT work for
Bellsouth, they are my ISP...

Jason Wolfe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jean-Michel
Hiver
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:01 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] IAX termination services


Jason D. Wolfe a crit :

  
  
Hello,

If I use an IAX termination service to connect outgoing VoIP calls to a

  
  PSTN
  
  
will I have answer supervision so that my script won't initiate too early?



  
  I'm not sure to understand you. If you don't use Answer() before you use
Dial(), asterisk won't answer until the dialed party does so.

Cheers,
Jean-Michel.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] M0n0Wall traffic shaping rules

2006-01-04 Thread Mike Fedyk

Michael Graves wrote:


On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:04:18 +0100, Matt Riddell wrote:
 


I don't use m0n0wall, but wouldn't it be better just to shape based on a Type
Of Service and then set the TOS flags in iax.conf and sip.conf accordingly?

--
Cheers,

Matt Riddell
   



In a more general sense yes, TOS based QoS is better as it relates to
outside your LAN. However, when using m0n0wall (great software!) it's
easiest to assign priority based upon source machine (your * server) IP
or port number.

The examples given previously in this thread are derived from the
built-in traffic shaping wizard. This establishes a series of weighted
ques for data. All you really need to do is be certain that the IAX
traffic is assigned to the highest priority que. Or all traffic to/from
your server can be assigned to the hi priority que.

It all sets up the same thing. Since QoS across the internet is pretty
hard to achieve there's some question as to the actual usefullness of
TOS bits. In future Telco/DSL providers may actually filter traffic
looking for TOS tags to deter your from voip applications.
 

Actually no, TOS is mostly useless because it has so few combinations, 
and you have to trust the sender to have a clue.  Unless it originates 
from within your realm of control (most likely one of your LANs), then 
TOS is the last thing you should trust.  It is only useful when you want 
to know the intent of the sender (which is seldom useful).


That is why most examples use source and/or destination port 
specifications in addition to the IP addresses of the machines within 
your network(s) when assigning packet priority.  This prevents people 
from taking advantage of your QoS rules.


When you an ISP it is critical to think of these scenarios.  It doesn't 
hurt to do it the same way in smaller setups where there is much less 
chance of someone trying to take advantage.


Mike
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Using *RT for HA purposes was: [Asterisk-Users] Realtime Multiple Asterisk boxes, iaxusers

2006-01-03 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:


Rich Adamson wrote:

If you take the word dynamic out of that, then can he effectively 
have primary/secondary/backup systems that allows the user to

re-register and/or redial his call on a different * server?



I don't understand the question.


I don't know if it was Rich's intention, but I'm interested in using RT 
for HA (High Availability) purposes.


Think of this scenario: You have two * RT servers running heartbeat and 
one goes down.  If the SIP registration information was kept in the DB 
tables, the backup server could take over the ethernet and IP addresses 
and continue without forcing the phones to re-register.

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Re: Using *RT for HA purposes was: [Asterisk-Users] Realtime Multiple Asterisk boxes, iaxusers

2006-01-03 Thread Mike Fedyk

Kevin P. Fleming wrote:


Mike Fedyk wrote:

Think of this scenario: You have two * RT servers running heartbeat 
and one goes down.  If the SIP registration information was kept in 
the DB tables, the backup server could take over the ethernet and IP 
addresses and continue without forcing the phones to re-register.



Yes, that could work just as you described.


With the current *RT release?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FC3 or FC1 (or something else?)

2006-01-03 Thread Mike Fedyk

Brett, Gary wrote:


My question is which OS would be preferred in this configuration Fedora Core
1 or Fedora Core 3, and are there any install guides out there that are
recent enough for asterisk 1.2
 


Use Debian or Centos (Free RHEL).
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?

2006-01-02 Thread Mike Fedyk

Administrator TOOTAI wrote:


Craig Guy a écrit :

Are you using raid for performance or redundancy?  Software raid is 
nice except when the drive that fails is the one with your boot 
partition on it. I guess you could always tftp boot the kernel or 
something.



If you're using GRUB, fallback option allow you to boot on another 
boot partition if first failed.


Yes, and if you don't get to GRUB, what do you do?

I very much prefer a Linux software raid setup myself, but you are 
depending on the quirks of your BIOS if your primary boot drive dies.


Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?

2006-01-02 Thread Mike Fedyk

Simone Cittadini wrote:


Mike Fedyk ha scritto:


Hiu Yen Onn wrote:

How big of RAM for Asterisk server? My production environment will 
be about 400 users in the office.



In one server?  4GB.  And more if you can.

I'd suggest you use several servers for 400 users unless the 
percentage of active phones is ~10%.


Mike



(with no agi and transcoding) 80 alaw concurrent calls , cdr_mysql, 
terminating on one TE410

Mem:   3105772k total,   733928k used,  2371844k free,8k buffers
Cpu(s):   5.0% user,   5.5% system,   0.0% nice,  89.5% idle
load average: 0.37, 0.39, 0.41


So that is ~80 calls per GB of ram which is 20% of 400 users so that 
should be 5 or 6GB to handle 100% usage.


The load avg is the most important here.  You want to keep it under 1.00 
or you have processes waiting which increases jitter.  Your system will 
be at 80% usage with 160 calls, assuming linear scaling.


What are the specs for processor, memory and chipset that you pulled 
this stat from?

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