RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-25 Thread Florian Overkamp
Hi,

 -Original Message-
 That's fine for outbound lines, but what if I want to call 
 the guy in the next office ? I have to call him and get 
 redirected to his busy vm just to know that he's on the phone.
 
 This is a huge issue with the recepetionist with the 'master 
 console'. How does he/she know whether a user is busy or not ?
 
 20 year old phone systems offer this capability.
 
 I see this as a serious shortfall of asterisk / currently 
 available ip phones right now.

Asterisk has no idea of what's 'inside' and 'outside' of the PBX. That's
part of the flexibility you get.

The behaviour you want can be delivered by using more intelligent IP-phones
(Cisco 7960 can probably do this if you program the XML dialogs yourself),
but it is handywork to do, because everybody's setup is different. BTW,
using ADSI might allow you to do the same...

BTW, if you care to use MGCP, RFC3149 might be for you - it's an extension
to MGCP based on XML signalling. How difficult is it to combine this with
Asterisk systems?


Florian


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-25 Thread John Baker
That's great, but the Polycom phones and the Cisco phones are already
capable of this.  We just need asterisk to comply:

From the Polycom admin manual at:
http://www.polycom.com/common/pw_item_show_doc/0,1276,2545,00.pdf

5.2.6 Shared Call Appearance Signaling
A shared line is an address of record managed by a back to back user agent
(B2BUA)
server. The B2B server allows multiple endpoints to register locations
against the
address of record.
SoundPoint® IP supports shared call appearances (SCA) using the
SUBSCRIBENOTIFY
method in the SIP Specific Event Notification framework (RFC 3265).
The events used are:
. call-info for call appearance state notification
. line-seize for the telephone to ask to seize the line

5.2.6.1.1 Call-info header
The call-info header is used in INVITE, SUBSCRIBE, and NOTIFY to give
appearance
index information.
call-info header format:
Call-Info = Call-Info HCOLON info *(COMMA info)
info = LAQUOT absoluteURI RAQUOT *( SEMI info-param)
info-param = ( purpose EQUAL ( icon / info
/ card / token)) / generic-param
Two generic-param fields are defined:
appearance-index EQUAL ( (1*DIGIT) / STAR ) )
appearance-state EQUAL ( idle / seized / progressing / alerting
/ active / held )
Example of call-info header in INVITE request:
INVITE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
From: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
To: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Call-Info: sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=3
...


Example of call-info header in response:
SIP/2.0 200 OK ...
From: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
To: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Call-Info: sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=3
...
Example of call-info header in NOTIFY request:
NOTIFY sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
From: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
To: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Call-Info: sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=1;appearance-state=active,
sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=2;appearance-state=held,
sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=3;appearance-state=idle,
sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=4;appearance-state=idle
Event: call-info
...
5.2.6.1.2 Call-info event package
SoundPoint® IP sends a SUBSCRIBE message with event set to call-info to
subscribe
to call information for a specific address of record. For example:
SUBSCRIBE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
From: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
To: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
event: call-info
...
The server sends NOTIFY messages to all telephones which share that line to
indicate
the line state. For example:
NOTIFY sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
From: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
To: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Call-Info: sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=1;appearance-state=active,
sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=2;appearance-state=held,
sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=3;appearance-state=idle,
sip:polycom.com;appearance-index=4;appearance-state=idle
Event: call-info
...

And there's more.

Now, if someone could point me in the right direction.  Chan_Sip2, maybe?
Olle E. Johansson, where are you?

John



- Original Message - 
From: Tim Sailer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of
phone


 On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 04:33:41PM -0500, mattf wrote:
  Take a look at my GUI app:
 
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/astguiclient/
 
  It'll run on Linux and Windows, it's written in perl and it'll list
every
  channel(Zap/SIP/Local) that is active on your system updated every
second.
 
  You can also do a lot of other things with it too.
 
  We've been using it here at my company for months on over 60 computers
and
  it scales rather well.

 I looked at it, and it won't work for me the way you have written it
 without me hacking at it. You insist on having MySQL run in network
 mode. I really don't want another port/service running on a box that
 is internet-facing... call me silly. :) For things like this, I'll only
 have the service running locally.

 Tim

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-25 Thread Andrew Thompson
 I looked at it, and it won't work for me the way you have written it
 without me hacking at it. You insist on having MySQL run in network
 mode. I really don't want another port/service running on a box that
 is internet-facing... call me silly. :) For things like this, I'll
 only have the service running locally.
 
 Tim

Just because a port is active doesn't mean that the world has to be able
to see it.

I've not used this script(astguiclient), is it intended to be ran from
the client, or from the server?

-
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http://aktzero.com/ 


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-25 Thread mattf
It actually has components that run on the Asterisk server as well as a GUI
app that runs on the desktop(Win32 or Linux).

astguiclient was really designed for a larger environment than most of the
Asterisk client apps that are out there, and it is not as easy to set up. It
was also initially designed for the specific needs of my company.

It needs a MySQL server to be located somewhere that is accessible to the
Asterisk server and the client machines.(I'm thinking I should add a
$MySQL_port variable to the config files so that you can easily change the
MySQL port the server or client apps connect to for those with creative
firewalls)

The reasons that MySQL is used are simple: Scalability and Stability

I figured that out when I tried to have 60 concurrent connections to the
manager port getting updated info on channel statuses and the Asterisk
server quickly slowed to a crawl.

I wrote an application that runs on the Asterisk server to grab channel info
and dump it to the MySQL database so that potentially hundreds of clients
can be running at the same time without impacting the Asterisk server at
all.

Also, if you use the new optional Central Queue System that is bundled with
the latest release, the client app never actually connects to the Asterisk
server, all call initiations, transfers, and other commands are put into a
central MySQL queue table and are initiated locally on the Asterisk server.
But you don't have to use the CQS to have full functionality of the GUI app.

If anyone has any questions about astguiclient just send me an email.

MATT---


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type
of phone


 I looked at it, and it won't work for me the way you have written it
 without me hacking at it. You insist on having MySQL run in network
 mode. I really don't want another port/service running on a box that
 is internet-facing... call me silly. :) For things like this, I'll
 only have the service running locally.
 
 Tim

Just because a port is active doesn't mean that the world has to be able
to see it.

I've not used this script(astguiclient), is it intended to be ran from
the client, or from the server?

-
Andrew Thompson
http://aktzero.com/ 


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, mattf wrote:

 It actually has components that run on the Asterisk server as well as a GUI
 app that runs on the desktop(Win32 or Linux).
 
 astguiclient was really designed for a larger environment than most of the
 Asterisk client apps that are out there, and it is not as easy to set up. It
 was also initially designed for the specific needs of my company.
 
 It needs a MySQL server to be located somewhere that is accessible to the
 Asterisk server and the client machines.(I'm thinking I should add a
 $MySQL_port variable to the config files so that you can easily change the
 MySQL port the server or client apps connect to for those with creative
 firewalls)

How about allowing people to specify 127.0.0.1? ;) That solves the problem 
of running it on a different box. Just bind the local instance to that IP 
only.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-25 Thread Tim Sailer
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:46:55PM -0500, Andrew Thompson wrote:
  I looked at it, and it won't work for me the way you have written it
  without me hacking at it. You insist on having MySQL run in network
  mode. I really don't want another port/service running on a box that
  is internet-facing... call me silly. :) For things like this, I'll
  only have the service running locally.
  
  Tim
 
 Just because a port is active doesn't mean that the world has to be able
 to see it.

True, but my * server is on the public Internet, not behind a firewall.

 I've not used this script(astguiclient), is it intended to be ran from
 the client, or from the server?

Both, it seems.

Tim

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-25 Thread Tim Sailer
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 10:37:21PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 04:33:41PM -0500, mattf wrote:
  Take a look at my GUI app:
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/astguiclient/
  
  It'll run on Linux and Windows, it's written in perl and it'll list every
  channel(Zap/SIP/Local) that is active on your system updated every second.
  
  You can also do a lot of other things with it too.
  
  We've been using it here at my company for months on over 60 computers and
  it scales rather well.
 
 I looked at it, and it won't work for me the way you have written it
 without me hacking at it. You insist on having MySQL run in network
 mode. I really don't want another port/service running on a box that
 is internet-facing... call me silly. :) For things like this, I'll only
 have the service running locally.

OK, following up on my own e-mail, I have the gui working with the
unix socket by doing the following:

in libs/AST_VICI_conf.pl:

$DB_server = '';# MySQL server IP
#added unix socket to support local use - tps 02252004
$DB_unixsocket = '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'; # path to local socket

in AST_WINphoneAPP_0.9.pl and AST_update.pl, changed every instance of:

my $dbh = Net::MySQL-new(hostname = $DB_server, database = $DB_database, user 
= $DB_user, password = $DB_pass) 
or  die Couldn't connect to database: \n;

to 

my $dbh = Net::MySQL-new(unixsocket = $DB_unixsocket, hostname = $DB_server, 
database = $DB_database, user = $DB_user, password = $DB_pass) 
or  die Couldn't connect to database: \n;


Now it starts up and runs, and the Zap channels are seen, but not the SIP
ones yet...

Tim

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[Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Brian Capouch
I'd like to see if anyone out there might have some ideas on this.

I have a customer who wants to move to VoIP, but who has an office full 
of people who are very conservative about their telephones.

They would like the asterisk system that I am proposing to have 
something analogous to what they have right now, which are plain 4-line 
analog phones with a light showing any lines in use, and a button 
beneath that they press to choose an outbound line.

Before I tell them that this is a silly retrograde behavior I thought 
I'd check first to see how others of you out there might handle this 
same desideratum.

Thanks in advance.

b.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread John Fraizer
I would put it in a totally different light.  IE; depending on who they use 
as an IAX/SIP carrier, they may have potentially unlimited outbound and 
inbound lines with the limit only imposed by the total number of indications 
on the phones in the office and even then, new inbound calls can still go to 
voicemail or a call queue.

John

Brian Capouch wrote:
I'd like to see if anyone out there might have some ideas on this.

I have a customer who wants to move to VoIP, but who has an office full 
of people who are very conservative about their telephones.

They would like the asterisk system that I am proposing to have 
something analogous to what they have right now, which are plain 4-line 
analog phones with a light showing any lines in use, and a button 
beneath that they press to choose an outbound line.

Before I tell them that this is a silly retrograde behavior I thought 
I'd check first to see how others of you out there might handle this 
same desideratum.

Thanks in advance.

b.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Craig
I have a similar situation,

I have an office with 4 lines that are answered in different names and
wanted to give users the option to see the status of each line etc.

I have some cisco  vip30 with the select buttons and appropriate leds, I
was going to set these up on a * box and see how developed the skinny
driver is as far as making these buttons/leds let the users select
particular lines and indicate status.

The lines are mainly analogue on x100 cards

Maybe somebody has already worked on this and can give some guidance.

The hardware looks like it  will do the job, the only question is if we
can hack the software to do what we want.

craig

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Capouch
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 08:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of
phone

I'd like to see if anyone out there might have some ideas on this.

I have a customer who wants to move to VoIP, but who has an office full 
of people who are very conservative about their telephones.

They would like the asterisk system that I am proposing to have 
something analogous to what they have right now, which are plain 4-line 
analog phones with a light showing any lines in use, and a button 
beneath that they press to choose an outbound line.

Before I tell them that this is a silly retrograde behavior I thought 
I'd check first to see how others of you out there might handle this 
same desideratum.

Thanks in advance.

b.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Chris Clifton
That's fine for outbound lines, but what if I want to call the guy in the
next office ? I have to call him and get redirected to his busy vm just to
know that he's on the phone.

This is a huge issue with the recepetionist with the 'master console'. How
does he/she know whether a user is busy or not ?

20 year old phone systems offer this capability.

I see this as a serious shortfall of asterisk / currently available ip
phones right now.

- Chris Clifton

- Original Message - 
From: John Fraizer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of
phone



 I would put it in a totally different light.  IE; depending on who they
use
 as an IAX/SIP carrier, they may have potentially unlimited outbound and
 inbound lines with the limit only imposed by the total number of
indications
 on the phones in the office and even then, new inbound calls can still go
to
 voicemail or a call queue.

 John

 Brian Capouch wrote:
  I'd like to see if anyone out there might have some ideas on this.
 
  I have a customer who wants to move to VoIP, but who has an office full
  of people who are very conservative about their telephones.
 
  They would like the asterisk system that I am proposing to have
  something analogous to what they have right now, which are plain 4-line
  analog phones with a light showing any lines in use, and a button
  beneath that they press to choose an outbound line.
 
  Before I tell them that this is a silly retrograde behavior I thought
  I'd check first to see how others of you out there might handle this
  same desideratum.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  b.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Brian Capouch
Chris Clifton wrote:
That's fine for outbound lines, but what if I want to call the guy in the
next office ? I have to call him and get redirected to his busy vm just to
know that he's on the phone.
This is a huge issue with the recepetionist with the 'master console'. How
does he/she know whether a user is busy or not ?
20 year old phone systems offer this capability.

I see this as a serious shortfall of asterisk / currently available ip
phones right now.
Gastman will take care of that, but I've still been faced with 
occasional segfaults with it.  There's also the possiblility of using 
something like expect, or the manager interface, or even training a 
person to show channels in the CLI.

Of course, this means that the receptionist is going to have to have a 
terminal with a window up dedicated to this function.

That's where things are going, so I don't mind doing it much, other than 
the fact that I'm breaking their desire to simply map the old functions 
over to asterisk.

B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Tim Sailer
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 03:49:36PM -0500, Chris Clifton wrote:
 That's fine for outbound lines, but what if I want to call the guy in the
 next office ? I have to call him and get redirected to his busy vm just to
 know that he's on the phone.
 
 This is a huge issue with the recepetionist with the 'master console'. How
 does he/she know whether a user is busy or not ?
 
 20 year old phone systems offer this capability.
 
 I see this as a serious shortfall of asterisk / currently available ip
 phones right now.

I'm scratching out a way of doing this using the manager port. There is
a TON of info that is passed to the manager port once you are authenticated.
I'd love the interface to be Java (portablilty), but it could be web based
with a short refresh (say 5 seconds) from a database.

Tim

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread mattf
Take a look at my GUI app:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/astguiclient/

It'll run on Linux and Windows, it's written in perl and it'll list every
channel(Zap/SIP/Local) that is active on your system updated every second.

You can also do a lot of other things with it too.

We've been using it here at my company for months on over 60 computers and
it scales rather well.

MATT---


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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type
of phone


On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 03:49:36PM -0500, Chris Clifton wrote:
 That's fine for outbound lines, but what if I want to call the guy in the
 next office ? I have to call him and get redirected to his busy vm just to
 know that he's on the phone.
 
 This is a huge issue with the recepetionist with the 'master console'. How
 does he/she know whether a user is busy or not ?
 
 20 year old phone systems offer this capability.
 
 I see this as a serious shortfall of asterisk / currently available ip
 phones right now.

I'm scratching out a way of doing this using the manager port. There is
a TON of info that is passed to the manager port once you are authenticated.
I'd love the interface to be Java (portablilty), but it could be web based
with a short refresh (say 5 seconds) from a database.

Tim

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 Network and Systems Operations PO Box 726  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Christopher Lee
Just a thought on this topic, if you're using Cisco 7940/7960 IP handsets it
should be possible to write a Perl script on the Asterisk box that updates
the XML directory to show the current status of extensions.

Then when the receptionist is on the phone, they could hit the services
button, scroll through the list of extensions; see what the persons status
is, and even transfer the call right through by pressing the Dial button
underneath the extension if they hit Transfer before the Services button.

I don't have enough experience with coding the XML directory extension on
the Cisco beyond a simple phone-directory, but Cisco do have a programming
guide available and there are some advanced features you could use. 

In fact even with a simple XML phone-directory, all you need do is have the
Perl script interrogate Asterisk for the extension status, and if the
extension is busy, simply append BUSY in capitals onto the end of the
persons name. 

Then when the extension frees, remove the BUSY message... this should work,
and since the phone does a HTTP request every time the user hits the
Services button, if it's a script that's executed on the server then they
should have an up to date view of who's busy/free.

Granted if someone who was busy hangs up before the receptionist can scroll
to their name, it will still show as busy, but apart from that it should do
the trick and could be the next best thing to a live LED busy lamp field.

This would remove the need for a PC running status software; although at the
end of the day a software solution could probably be a lot more user
friendly and flexible than what you can do through XML.

The Cisco IP phones may be a little pricier than some others on the market,
but as far as I'm concerned they currently are the bee's knees as far as IP
phones go. Awesome call quality and best speakerphone I've ever had, and
coupled with the XML/HTTP capabilities of the phone you can't go too wrong. 

Before you jump in the deep end with deploying IP telephony in an office
environment, get yourself set up with two (or just 1 if money is tight)
Cisco 7940/7960's w/SIP firmware talking with Asterisk and see what can be
done.

Besides, the Cisco 7940/7960's look far sexier than 20 year old dinosaur key
stations and you'll be the envy of everyone in the office :-) 

Cheers,
Chris Lee 

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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of
 phone
 
 That's fine for outbound lines, but what if I want to call the guy in the
 next office ? I have to call him and get redirected to his busy vm just to
 know that he's on the phone.
 
 This is a huge issue with the recepetionist with the 'master console'. How
 does he/she know whether a user is busy or not ?
 
 20 year old phone systems offer this capability.
 
 I see this as a serious shortfall of asterisk / currently available ip
 phones right now.
 
 - Chris Clifton

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
 Then when the receptionist is on the phone, they could hit the services
 button, scroll through the list of extensions; see what the persons
 status is, and even transfer the call right through by pressing the Dial
 button underneath the extension if they hit Transfer before the Services
 button.

Um, no.  Reception needs an 'at a glance' view of all extensions -- I don't 
think you've ever worked a switchboard or seen some of these people handle 
the call volumes they are used to.  Anything involving button presses or 
scrolling would be useless.

+2 points for trying, though.  :-)  

I am positive I saw add-on modules for Cisco phones to show line/extension 
status, though.  

Regards,
Andrew
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 I am positive I saw add-on modules for Cisco phones to show
 line/extension status, though.  

It appears that for the SNOM 220 there is a 20 key extension pad, and you 
can use up to 3 of those per phone -- maximum of 60 lines to monitor?

Cheers, Philipp



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread TC
 I am positive I saw add-on modules for Cisco phones to show line/extension
 status, though.
Your did
http://cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008
008883d.html
alas no one has done any integration work with * yet

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Christopher Lee
  Then when the receptionist is on the phone, they could hit the services
  button, scroll through the list of extensions; see what the persons
  status is, and even transfer the call right through by pressing the Dial
  button underneath the extension if they hit Transfer before the Services
  button.
 
 Um, no.  Reception needs an 'at a glance' view of all extensions -- I
 don't
 think you've ever worked a switchboard or seen some of these people handle
 the call volumes they are used to.  Anything involving button presses or
 scrolling would be useless.

True, probably too much assumption there on my part. I figured the old
switchboards of yesteryear were pretty much redundant, or had loads reduced
these days with direct in dial through BRI/PRI interfaces. 

Anyway, in a high call volume environment you might as well go the software
route and get setup with a computer and a nice colourful busy lamp display
on screen. 

Cheers,
Chris Lee


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Simulating the lighted line in use type of phone

2004-02-24 Thread Tim Sailer
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 04:33:41PM -0500, mattf wrote:
 Take a look at my GUI app:
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/astguiclient/
 
 It'll run on Linux and Windows, it's written in perl and it'll list every
 channel(Zap/SIP/Local) that is active on your system updated every second.
 
 You can also do a lot of other things with it too.
 
 We've been using it here at my company for months on over 60 computers and
 it scales rather well.

I looked at it, and it won't work for me the way you have written it
without me hacking at it. You insist on having MySQL run in network
mode. I really don't want another port/service running on a box that
is internet-facing... call me silly. :) For things like this, I'll only
have the service running locally.

Tim

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