Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Dan, My question here is, what about when you have an IAX client that actually answers to multiple extensions to multiple contacts? Does the t argument need to follow the exten line that the IAX client answers to in each context? Or is just one of the context ok? Say for instance, I have Sally receptionist that is assigned extension 123 at company 1, and extension 5000 at parent company 25, she answers calls in both contexts, she also needs to be able to transfer calls regardless of which company they come in from. Thanks a lot Dan. A.J. On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Dan wrote: Hi, - Original Message - From: Shoval Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Dan, I can't seem to transfer calls using #. How is it supposed to be done? In the dial line (from extensions.conf) you must put t and/or T as the last parameter. Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Dan, My question here is, what about when you have an IAX client that actually answers to multiple extensions to multiple contacts? Does the t argument need to follow the exten line that the IAX client answers to in each context? Or is just one of the context ok? With DIAX you can answer to a maximum of 2 calls in this moment. You can transfer any of then using '#' if 't' is specified in the dial string. Say for instance, I have Sally receptionist that is assigned extension 123 at company 1, and extension 5000 at parent company 25, she answers calls in both contexts, she also needs to be able to transfer calls regardless of which company they come in from. Sally can be registered with only one * server for the moment, so it will receive any call through that server, even it has assigned extensions on multiple servers. For all other servers it will have in the dial line for his extensions an inter * servers call. Sorry, but I do not catch the point...:( Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
I understand that it can only be registered with one asterisk server. I also understand it can only take 2 incoming calls. My question is, within the dial plan (extensions.conf) when you put the t at the end of the exten line, does this have to be in each context that the user has in exten line. Some of my users have extens in multiple contextes. Now do you understand my question? A.J. On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Dan wrote: Hi, - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Dan, My question here is, what about when you have an IAX client that actually answers to multiple extensions to multiple contacts? Does the t argument need to follow the exten line that the IAX client answers to in each context? Or is just one of the context ok? With DIAX you can answer to a maximum of 2 calls in this moment. You can transfer any of then using '#' if 't' is specified in the dial string. Say for instance, I have Sally receptionist that is assigned extension 123 at company 1, and extension 5000 at parent company 25, she answers calls in both contexts, she also needs to be able to transfer calls regardless of which company they come in from. Sally can be registered with only one * server for the moment, so it will receive any call through that server, even it has assigned extensions on multiple servers. For all other servers it will have in the dial line for his extensions an inter * servers call. Sorry, but I do not catch the point...:( Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I understand that it can only be registered with one asterisk server. I also understand it can only take 2 incoming calls. My question is, within the dial plan (extensions.conf) when you put the t at the end of the exten line, does this have to be in each context that the user has in exten line. Some of my users have extens in multiple contextes. Now do you understand my question? If I correctly understand you, then you must put a 't' in each context from which you want the user to be able to transfer BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
HI, When I first load the Gui, I get to see directory displayed on the right hand (bottom) below RX/X/TX etc info. You mean first 12 memories.. Once a number is dialied, this place is used for Volume control but it would be nice to see the same directory all the time so that dialing would be easier. In order to keep the window as small as possible and still have the full functionality, the form is changed depend on current status. When you're in a call, you can not dial another number, so this is the reason that the memories are not available. Did you think about keeping the Dial and Hangup buttons as permanent feature instead of switching back and forth? Sometimes, I also see a delete button which may not be necessary? You must take a closer look at the functionality. The two function buttons depend (again) on the cuirrent status. They can display DIAL/DELETE, HANGUP/-, REDIAL/-, REJECT/- When you start enter a number using keypad, after the first digit you et the DELETE button too, in order to be able to correct the numbet. Each click on this button deletes the last digit. When the number is dialed from the memory, DELETE button delete the whole number. I cannot imagine something simpler than that... Anyway, that is my feedback so far. i will try using some more functions and let you know if I find something strange. Please check it closer. I still work on the detailed help file which will be available during the weekend. By the way, I had liked the idea of multi-line phone as a drop-down action as suggested by someone earlier. Default could be a single line with basic features. In this moment, the phone is very close in functionality with a full featured single line analog phone (with callerid, callwaiting, callwating callerid, and so on) I do not see an imediate reason to have more than one line for a standar phone. Do you? Keep it up. I'll do it... Thanks for your feedback and best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Dan, It's a great program, Just a question, it's open source right ? Can i see the code ? I'm a c++ programmer too with some time to spend now (On vacation) :) So can i help ? Did you plan put in the page a source code for people download too ? About the ACTIVEX idea it's great too !! Again nice job !! Carlos. On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:31:11 +0200, Dan wrote: HI, When I first load the Gui, I get to see directory displayed on the right hand (bottom) below RX/X/TX etc info. You mean first 12 memories.. Once a number is dialied, this place is used for Volume control but it would be nice to see the same directory all the time so that dialing would be easier. In order to keep the window as small as possible and still have the full functionality, the form is changed depend on current status. When you're in a call, you can not dial another number, so this is the reason that the memories are not available. Did you think about keeping the Dial and Hangup buttons as permanent feature instead of switching back and forth? Sometimes, I also see a delete button which may not be necessary? You must take a closer look at the functionality. The two function buttons depend (again) on the cuirrent status. They can display DIAL/DELETE, HANGUP/-, REDIAL/-, REJECT/- When you start enter a number using keypad, after the first digit you et the DELETE button too, in order to be able to correct the numbet. Each click on this button deletes the last digit. When the number is dialed from the memory, DELETE button delete the whole number. I cannot imagine something simpler than that... Anyway, that is my feedback so far. i will try using some more functions and let you know if I find something strange. Please check it closer. I still work on the detailed help file which will be available during the weekend. By the way, I had liked the idea of multi-line phone as a drop- down action as suggested by someone earlier. Default could be a single line with basic features. In this moment, the phone is very close in functionality with a full featured single line analog phone (with callerid, callwaiting, callwating callerid, and so on) I do not see an imediate reason to have more than one line for a standar phone. Do you? Keep it up. I'll do it... Thanks for your feedback and best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://listsdigium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Carlos, - Original Message - From: Carlos Arnt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi Dan, It's a great program, Just a question, it's open source right ? Can i see the code ? I'm a c++ programmer too with some time to spend now (On vacation) :) So can i help ? Did you plan put in the page a source code for people download too ? Sorry...It is not (yet)..just a free application ( as executable) About the ACTIVEX idea it's great too !! Yup...:-) Again nice job !! Thanks a lot. please test it hardly and send me your comments (bugs, improvements, etc.) Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hello Dan, Its an excellent start. Please don't get swayed away by some stupid remarks. I am really impressed by your work and I hope to see a lot more releases from you. In spirit of improving the code, here are some of the issues that I faced while trying it out: 1. Once I dial the number, the directory disappears and never shows up. 2. I see a message at the bottom that says dialiing and the message goes away after a second or so. But nothing happens and the Dial/Hangup Delete button goes gray on me. 3. It will be nice to see the status at the bottom at all times and have a hang-up button (even though the user may not be in call). This is just what we are used to doing on regular phone line. If something is wrong, click the falsh button a couple of time and hope that things would improve. That's it from me so far. Overall, great work and thanks a lot for all your efforts. Please keep it up. Ricky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Masakazu Nakano Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi Dan. thanks for good application! and I wish 'no with installer' package about that. because I think use with USB-memory device in any places (ie.net-cafe.) is that need registry setting or not? On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:21:09 +0200 Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have developed a full featured Windows IAX phone based on LIBIAX library . It is now in a prerelease version (0.9.0) and you can download it for free from my web page: http://www.laser.com/dante or http://www.geocities.com/tdanro ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Some more remarks: 1: Message: Unknown event: 6 for call 1 2. Message: No free call appearences ? 3. Again, two buttons grayed out? ricky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asterisk Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hello Dan, Its an excellent start. Please don't get swayed away by some stupid remarks. I am really impressed by your work and I hope to see a lot more releases from you. In spirit of improving the code, here are some of the issues that I faced while trying it out: 1. Once I dial the number, the directory disappears and never shows up. 2. I see a message at the bottom that says dialiing and the message goes away after a second or so. But nothing happens and the Dial/Hangup Delete button goes gray on me. 3. It will be nice to see the status at the bottom at all times and have a hang-up button (even though the user may not be in call). This is just what we are used to doing on regular phone line. If something is wrong, click the falsh button a couple of time and hope that things would improve. That's it from me so far. Overall, great work and thanks a lot for all your efforts. Please keep it up. Ricky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Masakazu Nakano Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi Dan. thanks for good application! and I wish 'no with installer' package about that. because I think use with USB-memory device in any places (ie.net-cafe.) is that need registry setting or not? On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:21:09 +0200 Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have developed a full featured Windows IAX phone based on LIBIAX library . It is now in a prerelease version (0.9.0) and you can download it for free from my web page: http://www.laser.com/dante or http://www.geocities.com/tdanro ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: Asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Some more remarks: 1: Message: Unknown event: 6 for call 1 This message is generated by the IAX library. I don't know why (yet) By the way... in the final release this statusbar will be available only in administrative mode, not accessible for a regular user. 2. Message: No free call appearences ? The same. 3. Again, two buttons grayed out? Which? If talk about the two function buttons, then they are grayed out if: - no call was placed durring the current application execution - - no active call and no redial information available There is another situation when they are grayed out? Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: Shoval Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Dan, I can't seem to transfer calls using #. How is it supposed to be done? In the dial line (from extensions.conf) you must put t and/or T as the last parameter. Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
I've had t a the end, I've added T, although this is not necessary. Still doesn't work, though When calling or called party press #, nothing happens. Asterisk's console doesn't show anything, either. Can you send me a sample of an extension definition that works? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi, - Original Message - From: Shoval Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Dan, I can't seem to transfer calls using #. How is it supposed to be done? In the dial line (from extensions.conf) you must put t and/or T as the last parameter. Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: Shoval Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I've had t a the end, I've added T, although this is not necessary. Still doesn't work, though When calling or called party press #, nothing happens. Asterisk's console doesn't show anything, either. You must see in the console something like that: -- Playing 'pbx-transfer' A standard dial is : exten = 123,1,Dial(IAX/user1,30,tTr) then the user1 (on DIAX) can trasfer the call using '#' key. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, Sorry to answer just now. your mail was lost between others from the same list..;) - Original Message - From: Asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hello Dan, Its an excellent start. Please don't get swayed away by some stupid remarks. I am really impressed by your work and I hope to see a lot more releases from you. I'll keep it up. In spirit of improving the code, here are some of the issues that I faced while trying it out: 1. Once I dial the number, the directory disappears and never shows up What do you meen by directory? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
In spirit of improving the code, here are some of the issues that I faced while trying it out: 1. Once I dial the number, the directory disappears and never shows up What do you meen by directory? When I first load the Gui, I get to see directory displayed on the right hand (bottom) below RX/X/TX etc info. Once a number is dialied, this place is used for Volume control but it would be nice to see the same directory all the time so that dialing would be easier.Did you think about keeping the Dial and Hangup buttons as permanent feature instead of switching back and forth? Sometimes, I also see a delete button which may not be necessary? Anyway, that is my feedback so far. i will try using some more functions and let you know if I find something strange. By the way, I had liked the idea of multi-line phone as a drop-down action as suggested by someone earlier. Default could be a single line with basic features. Keep it up. Regards, Ricky ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I was willing to give vb a chance at one time, but won't touch it any more. I am not defending VB. I won't touch it either (I use XWT for all my cross-platform user interface type stuff, any web monkey can be proficient . I must admit that it was a lot more difficult to integrate the IAX library in a VB application than in a VC++ one (totally different way to pass things between them), but this is the nice part of this little project ;-) Best regards to you all, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Dan, problems discovered First, DIAX still crashes after hitting exit, and not only from system tray. Second, Why don't I get a busy signal? Even when I call myself. How many lines(calls) is DIAX capable of having concurrently? Third, I was playing with extensions.conf while adding users using DIAX, and suddenly, every call I made ringed back to me. I don't know if this is * fault, or DIAX fault. It's a great app ,Dan (the Man) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi, - Original Message - From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I was willing to give vb a chance at one time, but won't touch it any more. I am not defending VB. I won't touch it either (I use XWT for all my cross-platform user interface type stuff, any web monkey can be proficient . I must admit that it was a lot more difficult to integrate the IAX library in a VB application than in a VC++ one (totally different way to pass things between them), but this is the nice part of this little project ;-) Best regards to you all, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Shoval, Dan, problems discovered First, DIAX still crashes after hitting exit, and not only from system tray. All the time or after some specific operations? Did you registered with Asterisk server? Second, Why don't I get a busy signal? Even when I call myself. Ooops you're right... no busy signal...just hangup. I'll think about that ... How many lines(calls) is DIAX capable of having concurrently? 2 for the moment and you can switch between them using SELECT button (active only when you have 2 open calls) Third, I was playing with extensions.conf while adding users using DIAX, and suddenly, every call I made ringed back to me. I don't know if this is * fault, or DIAX fault. I think is * related (way you configure extensions.conf ..). It's a great app ,Dan (the Man) Thanks a lot, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
First, DIAX still crashes after hitting exit, and not only from system tray. All the time or after some specific operations? Did you registered with Asterisk server? [Shoval Tomer] Every time I exit, and I have registered successfully. Second, Why don't I get a busy signal? Even when I call myself. Ooops you're right... no busy signal...just hangup. I'll think about that ... [Shoval Tomer] it doesn't hangup, it actually rings, as if I could answer myself... I'll retest and get back to you. How many lines(calls) is DIAX capable of having concurrently? 2 for the moment and you can switch between them using SELECT button (active only when you have 2 open calls) [Shoval Tomer] Does this mean you will only get a busy signal if a third call comes in? Third, I was playing with extensions.conf while adding users using DIAX, and suddenly, every call I made ringed back to me. I don't know if this is * fault, or DIAX fault. I think is * related (way you configure extensions.conf ..). [Shoval Tomer] I think you are correct. [Shoval Tomer] Thanks. It's a great app ,Dan (the Man) Thanks a lot, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, Second, Why don't I get a busy signal? Even when I call myself. Ooops you're right... no busy signal...just hangup. I'll think about that ... [Shoval Tomer] it doesn't hangup, it actually rings, as if I could answer myself... I'll retest and get back to you. There is no busy signal in the actual version. How many lines(calls) is DIAX capable of having concurrently? 2 for the moment and you can switch between them using SELECT button (active only when you have 2 open calls) [Shoval Tomer] Does this mean you will only get a busy signal if a third call comes in? I'll test that. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Brian, - Original Message - From: Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) ... Its a start but having to restart when you change registration isn't very intuitive. But its an excellent point to start. Good luck. I know it... it will be solved in the next release... no need to restart application. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Please provide your feedback about the application Only in that way it can be improoved. Thanks! Dan - Original Message - From: Senad Jordanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Finaly, someone has started the IAX soft phone ball :) Thanks, Dan... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi , - Original Message - From: Masakazu Nakano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:05 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) ... thanks for good application! and I wish 'no with installer' package about that. because I think use with USB-memory device in any places (ie.net-cafe.) The next release (which will be available during this week) will be in two versions: one with installer and one wich will be possible to run it from any type of media. It has just 4 files (main exe, a dll, one configuration file and one call list file). is that need registry setting or not? No.. In the actual version (with installer), just the installer writes something in the registry in order to be able to uninstall. The DLL does not need to be registered (it si not an Active X dll) Nothing used by the application stored in the system registry. This was one of my first goals... to keep it as portable as possible Even with the actual version, you can make a small BAT file to copy the 'wiax.dll' file in the system32 directory before starting the application...this is all. Nothing to register. All the required files for the application to run are: diax.exe, diax.cfg, diax.cl (all in the same directory) wiax.dll (in the system32 directory). I even think to avoid using an installer mainly because the installer part is bigger that the application himself. What do you think? Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
I cannot seem to get the software to work on my machine. I am multihomed running windows XP home. Perhaps the software is binding to the card not connected to asterisk. If I turn on debugging in asterisk I see no IAX stuff coming in from the IP. Thanks, Will - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:21 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Please provide your feedback about the application Only in that way it can be improoved. Thanks! Dan - Original Message - From: Senad Jordanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Finaly, someone has started the IAX soft phone ball :) Thanks, Dan... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
On 03/11/03 00:25, Mark Spencer wrote: As a side note, I strongly would like to see someone implement a client using libiax2 which implements IAX2 instead of the (now obsolescent) IAX version 1. I'm implementing a Java-based IVR server (and yes, I know Asterisk does IVR, and no, it's not flexible enough to do what I want and no, it doesn't integrate well with the Java systems we have, etc. hence my doing this). Currently it uses SIP (using the NIST JAIN-SIP stack) and JMF to handle RTP/audio stuff. I've found that JMF/RTP doesn't scale very well, as it spawns a *lot* of threads, and can't reliably handle more than 20 simultaneous calls. So, I'm investigating the possibility of writing an IAX library for Java. Searching the archives, it seems various other people would be interested in this. So, my questions are: - Should I implement IAX or IAX2? What's the main difference, other than IAX2 supporting trunking (which according to the docs needs a Zaptel timing source). - Has anyone else made any headway with this? - Is anyone else interested in making this an LGPL or even a GPL project and helping me with it? I'm likely to implement just the call management/DTMF/audio type stuff required for IVR initially (i.e. not worry about call xfer, etc.). It'll also be geared towards handling the hundreds of simultaneous calls required in a server environment, although there'll be no reason not to use it for IAX clients too. Obviously such a library would enable a nice GUI cross-platform IAX(2?) client to be easily created, which would be a nice by-product. -- Alastair Maw MX Telecom http://www.mxtelecom.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Will, - Original Message - From: William Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I cannot seem to get the software to work on my machine. I am multihomed running windows XP home. Perhaps the software is binding to the card not connected to asterisk. If I turn on debugging in asterisk I see no IAX stuff coming in from the IP. Thanks, Will In order to see something in the * console you must register first. Have you enter your credentials and * server IP address when asked? If not registered, nothing works and the application closes by himself. Please give me more details about this behaviour. It must work on a multihomed computer too if a correct route exists to the Asterisk server. If you can ping it, then it is only a registering problem. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
I did set it up to register here is my iax.conf config. [blah] type=friend user=blah secret=blah context=default host=192.168.5.200 This is what I am seeing in asterisk. NOTICE[32773]: File chan_iax.c, Line 2708 (register_verify): Peer 'blah' is not dynamic (from 192.168.5.200) Rx-Frame Retry[N/A] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: REGREQ Tx-Frame Retry[-01] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: ACK Tx-Frame Retry[000] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: REGREJ Rx-Frame Retry[N/A] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: REGREQ Tx-Frame Retry[-01] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: ACK Rx-Frame Retry[N/A] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: ACK Rx-Frame Retry[N/A] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: REGREQ Tx-Frame Retry[-01] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: ACK Tx-Frame Retry[000] -- Seqno: 00 Type: IAX Subclass: REGREJ etc Ok I figured it out I need to change the host field to host=dynamic Thanks, Will - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi Will, - Original Message - From: William Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I cannot seem to get the software to work on my machine. I am multihomed running windows XP home. Perhaps the software is binding to the card not connected to asterisk. If I turn on debugging in asterisk I see no IAX stuff coming in from the IP. Thanks, Will In order to see something in the * console you must register first. Have you enter your credentials and * server IP address when asked? If not registered, nothing works and the application closes by himself. Please give me more details about this behaviour. It must work on a multihomed computer too if a correct route exists to the Asterisk server. If you can ping it, then it is only a registering problem. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: William Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I did set it up to register here is my iax.conf config. [blah] type=friend user=blah secret=blah context=default host=192.168.5.200 This is what I am seeing in asterisk. .. Ok I figured it out I need to change the host field to host=dynamic Thanks, Will This is what I have in the iax.conf file: [yourusername] type=friend username=yourusername secret=blahblah auth=plaintext host=dynamic callerid=Your User Name your user extension context=yourcontext Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
I made few successful calls (in/out). However, the application did crash few times during conversation, and now while trying to start it the application shows this error message: Run Time error '341': Invalid control array index I am using XP-PRO, Service pack 1. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: Senad Jordanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) I made few successful calls (in/out). However, the application did crash few times during conversation, ... Have you seen something else related to this crash? It crashes or it just hang up the conversation/ ...and now while trying to start it the application shows this error message: Run Time error '341': Invalid control array index I'll try to see if I can reproduce this behaviour... I am using XP-PRO, Service pack 1. Same for me. Best regards, Dan P.S. I'll post later today a new prerelease (0.9.1) with some bug fixes and some users requested improovements. Keep on eye on this list! ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Dan, Another problem I am seeing is I cannot delete any phone book entrys. This is very strange... Someone else with this issue? I cannot reproduce it here Just tried to delete Entry 12. Same problem here. And afterwards I can't start DIAX anymore, except by manually editing diax.cfg and adding a new blank entry at the end,ie. 12,, hth rgds pos ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: Peer Oliver schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi Dan, Another problem I am seeing is I cannot delete any phone book entrys. This is very strange... Someone else with this issue? I cannot reproduce it here Just tried to delete Entry 12. Same problem here. And afterwards I can't start DIAX anymore, except by manually editing diax.cfg and adding a new blank entry at the end,ie. 12,, You're right. Solved now. Check prerelease 0.9.1 later today. Thanks for your help, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi , I even think to avoid using an installer mainly because the installer part is bigger that the application himself. What do you think? Dan, I agree that if an installer or registry entries are not needed then it makes an automated rollout much easier. Also makes it possible to run the program from a diskette/CD so as to be really portable between systems. However, the installer will be necessary for the acceptance by the non-geeks. I only had a short time to run your program last night but it worked well. Configuration was easy and it worked the first time! The problem with changing address book entries was encountered but that has already been reported. Will do more extensive testing tonight with the version from today. Thanks for a good program. Looking forward to it being GPL and the further development. Robert Germany ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Robert, - Original Message - From: rnc Info Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Hi , I even think to avoid using an installer mainly because the installer part is bigger that the application himself. What do you think? Dan, I agree that if an installer or registry entries are not needed then it makes an automated rollout much easier. Also makes it possible to run the program from a diskette/CD so as to be really portable between systems. However, the installer will be necessary for the acceptance by the non-geeks. There is no more an installer in the prerelease which I will post on my site later today. As all you must do is to put all the files from the archive in the same directory and run the executable from there. No other files in other directories or registry settings. If you have a diskette or a pocket drive, taking it out you take the whole application with you, including all the config files or call lists. I only had a short time to run your program last night but it worked well. Run the new prerelease later today ( I will post a message when it will be there). It has some improovments based on users requests and solve some detected bugs. Configuration was easy and it worked the first time! The problem with changing address book entries was encountered but that has already been reported. Solved in the new prerelease. Will do more extensive testing tonight with the version from today. Thanks for a good program. Looking forward to it being GPL and the further development. Thanks a lot for your feedback, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
Alastair Maw wrote: On 03/11/03 00:25, Mark Spencer wrote: As a side note, I strongly would like to see someone implement a client using libiax2 which implements IAX2 instead of the (now obsolescent) IAX version 1. I'm implementing a Java-based IVR server (and yes, I know Asterisk does IVR, and no, it's not flexible enough to do what I want and no, it doesn't integrate well with the Java systems we have, etc. hence my doing this). Are you mad? What is not flexable enough for you? Java knows what STDIN and STDOUT is, right? What more do you need? Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
And Visual Basic? Please. What precisely is the problem with it? Or are you just a language nazi? I don't like VB any more than you do but if the thing works, who cares what it was written in. Nobody's asking me to maintain it. Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Jeremy McNamara wrote: If not registered, nothing works and the application closes by himself. This is a very bad behavior. You only need to register if you plan on receiving a call from Asterisk and your IP is dynamic or you need to punch thru a NAT/Firewall edge device. An error message would be more helpful, I have to agree. And Visual Basic? Please. What is wrong with Visual Basic? I always thought, it is the solution that counts, not the programming language. Am I missing something? *I* think it is great to have an IAX client available that kind of works out of the box. There are rough edges, but the start looks promising. -- Best regards Peer Oliver Schmidt the internet company ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
On Monday 03 November 2003 06:17, Dan wrote: P.S. I'll post later today a new prerelease (0.9.1) with some bug fixes and some users requested improovements. Keep on eye on this list! As this has become quite popular and is taking up a significant number of postings on this list, might I suggest that a new list be made for Windows clients? I don't mind the announcements (and I think, they're most welcome), but I think the support issues could best be handled on a separate list. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Let's keep this positive. Somebody took the time to try to make something useful. He's not charging for it. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you have a problem with VB, port it to C. My pair of pennies, David Gomillion -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy McNamara Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Dan wrote: If not registered, nothing works and the application closes by himself. This is a very bad behavior. You only need to register if you plan on receiving a call from Asterisk and your IP is dynamic or you need to punch thru a NAT/Firewall edge device. And Visual Basic? Please. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Peer Oliver schmidt wrote: And Visual Basic? Please. What is wrong with Visual Basic? I always thought, it is the solution that counts, not the programming language. Am I missing something? 1) Bloat 2) Borgware 3) Try running it on Linux/*BSD Not only is a really good win32 iax2 solution needed, but if someone is going to take the time, why not use a language that has a chance of being cross platform. And no, i'm not talking about Java either. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Jeremy, - Original Message - From: Jeremy McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Dan wrote: If not registered, nothing works and the application closes by himself. This is a very bad behavior. You only need to register if you plan on receiving a call from Asterisk and your IP is dynamic or you need to punch thru a NAT/Firewall edge device. You're right. The reason for me was that I wanted to make the program to have the look and feel of a standard phone. I will make a change in the registration window in order to choose if you want or not to register with the server you provide. And Visual Basic? Please. Please be more specific... It is something wrong to use it? Or.. your are one of the people who think that everything must be done in C (on *nix only)? Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
David Gomillion wrote: Let's keep this positive. Somebody took the time to try to make something useful. He's not charging for it. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you have a problem with VB, port it to C. I don't plan on using it. I will use mine, which is created in wxWindows and C++ and will run on Winsucks, UN*X and Mac. Yes, someday it will get released, maybe even the code if people are nice. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi, - Original Message - From: Peer Oliver schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Jeremy McNamara wrote: If not registered, nothing works and the application closes by himself. This is a very bad behavior. You only need to register if you plan on receiving a call from Asterisk and your IP is dynamic or you need to punch thru a NAT/Firewall edge device. An error message would be more helpful, I have to agree. Which do you think is the best way to provide this functionality. I intend to do it like that: - put a checkbox in the registration window (yes, will be one in the next release..;)) - if you check the box, then a register procedure sis triggered. - if not, it just use the info provided to compose the dial address together with the phone number. If you need to dial an IAX address containing name not numbers, then you must define a phonebook entry for that. It is ok for you? Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
On 03/11/03 16:35, Jeremy McNamara wrote: I'm implementing a Java-based IVR server (and yes, I know Asterisk does IVR, and no, it's not flexible enough to do what I want and no, it doesn't integrate well with the Java systems we have, etc. hence my doing this). Are you mad? What is not flexable enough for you? Java knows what STDIN and STDOUT is, right? What more do you need? Not wanting to start a flamewar, but... - I can't possibly fork a whole JVM process for each caller. It's much too inefficient. This needs to support hundreds of simultaneous calls, and the GNU Java compiler just isn't good enough for our needs. I guess I could write an AGI wrapper script which connected to the Java server over a TCP connection or something and piped the stdin/out down the line to it. - We'd like to use Java because: - Need to do RMI to existing systems. Can't be bothered with all the CORBA nonsense. - It's more maintainable within our organization. - We have lots of existing components to support. - It does all the interoperability stuff we need very nicely, so we save time once the system is built (XML, etc.). - We like it. :) - I need access to the raw audio streams in realtime for various reasons (need to do DSP stuff for some clients, etc). Can I get this easily with AGI? Along with this, I need to be able to play audio from a URL. I don't want to have to download the whole file from the URL in order to play it - it wants to be streamed. Is this possible with AGI? The docs aren't very good for AGI, so I don't really know... - I need to be able to generate large amounts of audio in realtime, conference people together but then only play an audio file to one person within the conference, etc. I don't think AGI is flexible enough to do this. - I'd like to be able to move from Asterisk to something else if I need to. This is why originally I was doing things using SIP/RTP. - The documentation for AGI is very poor. I know it is for IAX, too, but I can see a Java IAX library being useful for client development too, and I'd like to give a little back to the * community, you know? There are other reasons, but I haven't the time to explain right now. The above are the most important. -- Alastair Maw MX Telecom http://www.mxtelecom.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
At 12:11 PM 11/3/2003, you wrote: And Visual Basic? Please. What precisely is the problem with it? Or are you just a language nazi? I don't like VB any more than you do but if the thing works, who cares what it was written in. Nobody's asking me to maintain it. I was willing to give vb a chance at one time, but won't touch it any more. Speaking from firsthand experience here is what led to the eventual scrapping of a commercial product written in VB and a vow we will never use it again corporately. 1) 95 series / nt series stuff just behaved differently and no amount of property settings or traps changed that. 2) third party components are mostly supplied without source code. Vendors come and go like the wind so if you depend on something and it turns out to have a bug, often the only fix is a redo of the code. Alternatively you can write your own, but you pretty much have to do it with c to get the power to do what you need otherwise you would have just implemented in vb to start with. 3) There were many many bugs in the runtime libs - this may have changed in later versions (we tried 3, 4, and 5 with our code, which fixed some bugs and introduced new ones.) We finally just gave up on it since the customers using it were having constant issues we could not fix without replacing whole sections of VB with c code. 4) components changed behaviour with new releases of the compiler, and needed code fixes to accomdate, so trying later versions was somewhat of a one way street. 5) The RAD of visual c and its templating is very close to that in vb, but you get the component sources, and can fix them if need be. 6) if you need special pieces you are interfacing c to c which is much simpler. (remember vb uses a pascal style strings and C is an SZ - extra overhead and hair pulling to interface, especially when vb has several variants on pascal style length storage) you have to end up asking yourself, is it still vb after I replace all the parts with c to get it to do what I want ? if the answer is more than 50%, why start with vb in the first place ? Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Yes, someday it will get released, maybe even the code if people are nice. Gee, with an attitude like that I bet you're gonna be the next Torvalds. Take your vapourware app and stuff it. Andrew. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
How much arrogance... I'm very sad that they are such people on this otherwise great distribution list. Maybe you are a big *nix expert , but this does not give you the right to talk like that with the other ones. I have never seen Mark or any other really big *nix specialist to talk like that with the other list members. They try to help as much as possible and not to destroy (even just in words) what other peoples build. What you're afraid of? If your software is so good and works on any possible platform, then you must be confident that NO ONE, NOWHERE, NEVER will be able to build something better than you. Still best regards, Dan P.S. By the way.. better keep on eye on your site and check that they are some broken links. Technology is not enough Just an example: Broadband phone: http://www.nufone.net/broadband_phone.php HTTP 404... ;-) - Original Message - From: Jeremy McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) David Gomillion wrote: Let's keep this positive. Somebody took the time to try to make something useful. He's not charging for it. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you have a problem with VB, port it to C. I don't plan on using it. I will use mine, which is created in wxWindows and C++ and will run on Winsucks, UN*X and Mac. Yes, someday it will get released, maybe even the code if people are nice. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
I was willing to give vb a chance at one time, but won't touch it any more. I am not defending VB. I won't touch it either (I use XWT for all my cross-platform user interface type stuff, any web monkey can be proficient in it in a very short time) -- I am defending Dan's work in actually producing an app, no matter how simple, that can be used as a starting point. The man put some effort into something and actually _has_ product and you get snide remarks about what he did it in... Wankers. you have to end up asking yourself, is it still vb after I replace all the parts with c to get it to do what I want ? if the answer is more than 50%, why start with vb in the first place ? Agreed. But Dan created what I would consider a proof of concept application -- why'd he get blasted on that? I don't see anyone else stepping up and showing anything THEY'VE put forth. Like I said, I won't touch VB either, but Dan's actually gone and done something instead of pissing and moaning about the language that was used. If you're interested: www.xwt.org -- It's not my baby but I love the technology. Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
On 03/11/03 18:02, Alastair Maw wrote: I'm implementing a Java-based IVR server (and yes, I know Asterisk does IVR, and no, it's not flexible enough to do what I want and no, it doesn't integrate well with the Java systems we have, etc. hence my doing this). Are you mad? What is not flexable enough for you? Java knows what STDIN and STDOUT is, right? What more do you need? snip There are other reasons, but I haven't the time to explain right now. The above are the most important. Additionally, I'd like to spread the load across two machines - one for the PSTN/SIP/IAX routing and one for the IVR software. -- Alastair Maw MX Telecom http://www.mxtelecom.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 12:02, Alastair Maw wrote: On 03/11/03 16:35, Jeremy McNamara wrote: I'm implementing a Java-based IVR server (and yes, I know Asterisk does IVR, and no, it's not flexible enough to do what I want and no, it doesn't integrate well with the Java systems we have, etc. hence my doing this). Are you mad? What is not flexable enough for you? Java knows what STDIN and STDOUT is, right? What more do you need? Not wanting to start a flamewar, but... Awww, come on, they are fun, right? (more below that isn't joking around) - I can't possibly fork a whole JVM process for each caller. It's much too inefficient. This needs to support hundreds of simultaneous calls, and the GNU Java compiler just isn't good enough for our needs. I guess I could write an AGI wrapper script which connected to the Java server over a TCP connection or something and piped the stdin/out down the line to it. Good reason maybe not to support Java, but you are correct in the potential interface. - We'd like to use Java because: - Need to do RMI to existing systems. Can't be bothered with all the CORBA nonsense. - It's more maintainable within our organization. - We have lots of existing components to support. - It does all the interoperability stuff we need very nicely, so we save time once the system is built (XML, etc.). - We like it. :) Ohhh, Java weenies stick together. ;) - I need access to the raw audio streams in realtime for various reasons (need to do DSP stuff for some clients, etc). Can I get this easily with AGI? Along with this, I need to be able to play audio from a URL. I don't want to have to download the whole file from the URL in order to play it - it wants to be streamed. Is this possible with AGI? The docs aren't very good for AGI, so I don't really know... No, you can not get to this all easily with AGI. AGI currently will play files on a currently mounted filesystem. Audio can be gotten out of it, but it is in a strange manner, and is only half of the requirement you listed. Sounds like you really need a C programmer and get into the guts of asterisk. Can't get more flexible than having the source code yourself to do anything you want. You could add your DSP routines into the dsp.c file and call them when needed. You can also write a asterisk application and have direct access to all the audio in every direction just as you want it. - I need to be able to generate large amounts of audio in realtime, conference people together but then only play an audio file to one person within the conference, etc. I don't think AGI is flexible enough to do this. Meetme is doing the conferencing real well already, maybe needs a little tweeking to fully meet your needs, but it is a known working bit of code. - I'd like to be able to move from Asterisk to something else if I need to. This is why originally I was doing things using SIP/RTP. What else is there worth using??? Are you one of those people who always develops apps thinking, what if someone buys this and wants to run it on Oracle? or atleast something to that idea. - The documentation for AGI is very poor. I know it is for IAX, too, but I can see a Java IAX library being useful for client development too, and I'd like to give a little back to the * community, you know? Actually they documentation is just programmer oriented. The documentation is included as example scripts and the section of apps/app_agi.c that contains a nice description of each function that is available. You can even do the following from the CLI, show agi to give you a list of agi commands, and show agi command to get the paragraph or more of description of what each command does. This is one of the few parts of asterisk where the documentation actually shines pretty well. There are other reasons, but I haven't the time to explain right now. The above are the most important. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Don't get me wrong, I think its great too that he has spent the time on it, and has something working. I am just trying to be helpful sharing my experience with the platform. We had what we thought was something working too, but when we started testing on all the actual supported windows o/s variations, and got to the nitty gritty of fixing tricky bugs, the whole thing fell apart on us, and I would like to save others the same frustration. Wasting one's own time is one thing, but paying people to do something you toss in the garbage is a lesson that stays with you even longer. VB may be fine as a stepping stone to other languages, it may also be fine for prototyping and getting look and algorithms right, but in my experience, trying to take the initial working version and refine it into something that is commercial grade is an exercise in futility. If it was my time I was investing, I would want to ensure I spent it the best way possible, and be able to spend time making my code work the way I wanted, not fighting with other issues that come up which I can't control. I'm only offering the advice I wish I had in my hands a few years back. At 02:04 PM 11/3/2003, you wrote: I was willing to give vb a chance at one time, but won't touch it any more. I am not defending VB. I won't touch it either (I use XWT for all my cross-platform user interface type stuff, any web monkey can be proficient in it in a very short time) -- I am defending Dan's work in actually producing an app, no matter how simple, that can be used as a starting point. The man put some effort into something and actually _has_ product and you get snide remarks about what he did it in... Wankers. you have to end up asking yourself, is it still vb after I replace all the parts with c to get it to do what I want ? if the answer is more than 50%, why start with vb in the first place ? Agreed. But Dan created what I would consider a proof of concept application -- why'd he get blasted on that? I don't see anyone else stepping up and showing anything THEY'VE put forth. Like I said, I won't touch VB either, but Dan's actually gone and done something instead of pissing and moaning about the language that was used. If you're interested: www.xwt.org -- It's not my baby but I love the technology. Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 13:49, Alastair Maw wrote: On 03/11/03 18:02, Alastair Maw wrote: I'm implementing a Java-based IVR server (and yes, I know Asterisk does IVR, and no, it's not flexible enough to do what I want and no, it doesn't integrate well with the Java systems we have, etc. hence my doing this). Are you mad? What is not flexable enough for you? Java knows what STDIN and STDOUT is, right? What more do you need? snip There are other reasons, but I haven't the time to explain right now. The above are the most important. Additionally, I'd like to spread the load across two machines - one for the PSTN/SIP/IAX routing and one for the IVR software. Unless the IVR is way over bloated, or the routing you mention incurs heavy codec costs, one machine is fine. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
- Should I implement IAX or IAX2? What's the main difference, other than IAX2 supporting trunking (which according to the docs needs a Zaptel timing source). IAX2 without any question. You will not be required to run trunk mode in your case, especially if you're just doing it locally, but IAX2 is highly consistent and can be very easily parsed (see iax-parser.c in libiax2 / asterisk) Mark ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
I don't plan on using it. I will use mine, which is created in wxWindows and C++ and will run on Winsucks, UN*X and Mac. Yes, someday it will get released, maybe even the code if people are nice. I think it's just a race to see who makes the first GPL'd or LGPL'd IAX client for Windows (or cross platform). Whoever gets there first (and GPL's their work) will likely get the attention of the community. Mark ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
On 03/11/03 20:03, Steven Critchfield wrote: Sounds like you really need a C programmer and get into the guts of asterisk. Can't get more flexible than having the source code yourself to do anything you want. You could add your DSP routines into the dsp.c file and call them when needed. You can also write a asterisk application and have direct access to all the audio in every direction just as you want it. But C isn't as maintainable as nice Java apps, and it's as simple as that. Basically, I'm after the most powerful interface possible to Asterisk, but trying to make it as friendly as possible to code things against. As far as our organization is concerned, that pretty much means Java objects. - I'd like to be able to move from Asterisk to something else if I need to. This is why originally I was doing things using SIP/RTP. What else is there worth using??? Are you one of those people who always develops apps thinking, what if someone buys this and wants to run it on Oracle? or atleast something to that idea. There isn't anything else worth using. :) But there might be in six months' time. Or we might want to plug the IVR into something with far more channels than an E1 that has a Cisco badge on the front and talks SS7 (although I guess we can always break that into a T1 channel bank or whatever and plug T1s into the TE405Ps we have on order). - The documentation for AGI is very poor. Actually they documentation is just programmer oriented. The documentation is included as example scripts and the section of apps/app_agi.c that contains a nice description of each function that is available. snip I shall look into that. Thanks. :) -- Alastair Maw MX Telecom http://www.mxtelecom.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Dan, any chance getting a look at the code? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peer Oliver schmidt Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform) Jeremy McNamara wrote: If not registered, nothing works and the application closes by himself. This is a very bad behavior. You only need to register if you plan on receiving a call from Asterisk and your IP is dynamic or you need to punch thru a NAT/Firewall edge device. An error message would be more helpful, I have to agree. And Visual Basic? Please. What is wrong with Visual Basic? I always thought, it is the solution that counts, not the programming language. Am I missing something? *I* think it is great to have an IAX client available that kind of works out of the box. There are rough edges, but the start looks promising. -- Best regards Peer Oliver Schmidt the internet company ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
How much arrogance... I'm very sad that they are such people on this otherwise great distribution list. Maybe you are a big *nix expert , but this does not give you the right to talk like that with the other ones. Ease up Dan, the comments are simple signs of immaturity, arrogance, biases, and frustration that has nothing at all to do with your app or it's useability. Notice the interest level prior to mentioning the language? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: IAX2 Java library (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform))
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 16:27, Alastair Maw wrote: On 03/11/03 20:03, Steven Critchfield wrote: Sounds like you really need a C programmer and get into the guts of asterisk. Can't get more flexible than having the source code yourself to do anything you want. You could add your DSP routines into the dsp.c file and call them when needed. You can also write a asterisk application and have direct access to all the audio in every direction just as you want it. But C isn't as maintainable as nice Java apps, and it's as simple as that. Basically, I'm after the most powerful interface possible to Asterisk, but trying to make it as friendly as possible to code things against. As far as our organization is concerned, that pretty much means Java objects. So you bought that line of Marketecture didn't you. I think there are several large open source projects that prove that C is maintainable. Maintainability is really a function of organization. If you can't be organized, you will not produce very maintainable C code. I'll point out that I am not a C programmer, but making patches to asterisk isn't that difficult. I have also made patches to the kernel without too much hair pulling. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Dan, Looks great. Are you planning to release this with GPL? Peter At 22:21 2/11/03 +0200, you wrote: Hi all, I have developed a full featured Windows IAX phone based on LIBIAX library . It is now in a prerelease version (0.9.0) and you can download it for free from my web page: http://www.laser.com/dante or http://www.geocities.com/tdanro Some of the features are: - registering with Asterisk PBX; - can use any audio device as ring device (including PC speaker), independent of the play device; - GSM codec support; - advanced phonebook(search/add/replace/delete); - 12 memories with one click access (just click one of the 12 buttons to directly dial the number); - you can memorize IAX type addresses then call them with a click of a button; - 99 memories with two keys access (Mxx); - unlimited number of memory locations (just limited by your HDD capacity), accessible through the phonebook interface; - can dial directly from the phonebook; - can use separate audio device than the default one (you can play MP3's through your soundcard/speaker and use an USB headset fort phone purpose); - digital VU-meter (you can enable/disable it); - digital volume control (Vol UP / Vol Down); - redial/callwaiting callerID functionalities; - can switch between two calls; - out/in/missed/rejected/all calls list; - missed calls indicator; There is no help file available for the moment. I hope to finish it in a couple of days. Please send me your feedback. Thank you, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
As the library is under LGPL (is not true?), I intend to keep this application as a freeware only... Yep its LGPL. Play with it and try to use all the features, which are very intuitive. Its a start but having to restart when you change registration isn't very intuitive. But its an excellent point to start. Good luck. Thanks, bkw ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Finaly, someone has started the IAX soft phone ball :) Thanks, Dan... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Finaly, someone has started the IAX soft phone ball :) Thanks, Dan... actually theres been an opensource multiplatform iax soft phone on sourceforge for a while now: http://iaxclient.sourceforge.net/ duncan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Any thoughts or plans on making it available on the asterisk key *NIX? AJ On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Senad Jordanovic wrote: Finaly, someone has started the IAX soft phone ball :) Thanks, Dan... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
As the library is under LGPL (is not true?), I intend to keep this application as a freeware only... I want to add new features, but for one of them I need new functions implemented in the library (like multiple codecs support, message waiting indicator, conferencing, etc.). There is no requirement that you GPL or LGPL your code (other than the requirements that you publish changes to iax-client and/or libiax. However, if you elect to GPL your software, you can get assistance from other people around the net. In addition, since this is such an important project, I'm willing to personally any assistance you may need with regards to IAX/IAX2 if you're going to GPL or LGPL your final product. As a side note, I strongly would like to see someone implement a client using libiax2 which implements IAX2 instead of the (now obsolescent) IAX version 1. Mark ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Dan. thanks for good application! and I wish 'no with installer' package about that. because I think use with USB-memory device in any places (ie.net-cafe.) is that need registry setting or not? On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:21:09 +0200 Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have developed a full featured Windows IAX phone based on LIBIAX library . It is now in a prerelease version (0.9.0) and you can download it for free from my web page: http://www.laser.com/dante or http://www.geocities.com/tdanro ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New IAX software phone (for WIndows platform)
Hi Mark, There is no requirement that you GPL or LGPL your code (other than the requirements that you publish changes to iax-client and/or libiax. There is no change in the libiax for the moment. My DLL is just used to export the functions from the library to the main application. However, if you elect to GPL your software, you can get assistance from other people around the net. In addition, since this is such an important project, I'm willing to personally any assistance you may need with regards to IAX/IAX2 if you're going to GPL or LGPL your final product. I know that and I will think about it As a side note, I strongly would like to see someone implement a client using libiax2 which implements IAX2 instead of the (now obsolescent) IAX version 1. I really want to do it. They are a lot of things to be added in the library if I want to increase the low level functionality of my application. There is a libiax2 library for Windows available somewhere or I must build it myself based on libiax?? Thanks a lot, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
