Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Solutions for modems and other non jitter tolerant devices

2015-06-16 Thread Kevin Larsen
 The legal and medical communities still seem to prefer faxing, in 
 the ( mistaken? ) belief that it is more secure. In fact the medical
 community is fearful of the legal beagles.
 
 These groups are really slow to change.
 At least in the USA

The couple of times I have received medical faxes to my fax bank scare me 
about the actual security. My company is not in the medical field, nowhere 
close, in fact.

In one case, the fax included the patients name, address, phone, Date of 
Birth, SSN, and confidential medical history. The comment I made to a 
coworker was that if I wanted to steal an identity, they had just handed 
me everything I would need.

In the second case, it was a question from a pharmacy to a doctors office. 
Not quite so bad. I called up the pharmacy and said I had a problem with a 
fax they had sent. After asking me for some information from the fax so 
they could identify which patient I was calling about they asked what the 
problem was. I replied that I was a manufacturer of balloons and not a 
doctor's office. To say there was a bit of panic creeping into the guys 
voice on the other end was an understatement. I think I triggered some 
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Solutions for modems and other non jitter tolerant devices

2015-06-15 Thread Jon Pounder


On 15-06-15 08:48 PM, Matt Darnell wrote:
In the past we have used Adtran Atlas 550's to break out FXS ports for 
devices like modems.  The great thing about the 550 is that internally 
it is all TDM so there is absolutely zero latency.


We are able to use ATA's for faxes and analog phones but devices that 
use modems, they fail 99.99% of the time when using an ATA.


We tried to migrate to TA908 devices; they have FXS ports built into 
the unit.  Unfortunately the FXS ports are just ATA's off of Asterisk, 
no different than a SPA2012 unit.


The 550 is getting long in the tooth and very expensive for a few FXS 
ports, what are you folks doing when someone has a need?  It can be a 
modem for the power company to read the meter, a postage machine that 
needs to get more postage, an alarm system,etc.


Finding less and less need for analog circuits. Alarm - envisalink, 
postage machine - ethernet based, pos terminal - ethernet.


Fax is really the only need recently, and even that has alternatives 
like emailing scans that most people prefer now.






Is the customer buying a POTS line and splitting it the only other way?

Thanks,
Matt






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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Solutions for modems and other non jitter tolerant devices

2015-06-15 Thread John Novack



Jon Pounder wrote:




snip

Fax is really the only need recently, and even that has alternatives like 
emailing scans that most people prefer now.


The legal and medical communities still seem to prefer faxing, in the ( 
mistaken? ) belief that it is more secure. In fact the medical community is 
fearful of the legal beagles.

These groups are really slow to change.
At least in the USA

John Novack


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Solutions for modems and other non jitter tolerant devices

2015-06-15 Thread David Wessell
The mediatrix 4102s line kicks ass.
On Jun 15, 2015 8:49 PM, Matt Darnell mattdarn...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the past we have used Adtran Atlas 550's to break out FXS ports for
 devices like modems.  The great thing about the 550 is that internally it
 is all TDM so there is absolutely zero latency.

 We are able to use ATA's for faxes and analog phones but devices that use
 modems, they fail 99.99% of the time when using an ATA.

 We tried to migrate to TA908 devices; they have FXS ports built into the
 unit.  Unfortunately the FXS ports are just ATA's off of Asterisk, no
 different than a SPA2012 unit.

 The 550 is getting long in the tooth and very expensive for a few FXS
 ports, what are you folks doing when someone has a need?  It can be a modem
 for the power company to read the meter, a postage machine that needs to
 get more postage, an alarm system,etc.

 Is the customer buying a POTS line and splitting it the only other way?

 Thanks,
 Matt



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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS hangup issues

2012-02-02 Thread Richard Mudgett
 I currently have an Asterisk 1.8.8.1 system set up with SIP accounts
 as well as a Wildcard TDM400P REV I card with both FXS and FXO
 ports - FXO is connected to outside lines, FXS connected to inside
 analog phones. Everything about the setup works fine except one thing
 -
 after making calls to or from any of the analog phones, and the other
 side hangs up, the analog phone just gives a busy signal instead of
 hanging up. On the Asterisk console, it seems to think it's hung up
 the phone too:
 
 == Spawn extension (from-office, 44, 50005) exited non-zero on
 'DAHDI/5-1'
 -- Hanging up on 'DAHDI/5-1'
 -- Hungup 'DAHDI/5-1'
 
 chan_dahdi.conf is mostly just the default with just the lines
 defined, nothing too fancy, and this doesn't happen for SIP clients
 or remote
 phones via the FXO ports.
 
 Any ideas?

You have to hang up the phone too.

Richard

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS ports on TDM410P card...

2011-10-15 Thread Michael C. Robinson
[Oct 15 01:48:02] NOTICE[3747] channel.c: Dropping incompatible voice
frame on SIP/2006- of format ulaw since our native format has
changed to 0x8 (alaw)
[Oct 15 01:48:49] WARNING[3750] pbx.c: Channel 'DAHDI/1-1' sent into
invalid extension 's' in context 'default', but no invalid handler
--
I have the code to set up an extension for toggling Telco pass through
working I think.  What isn't working is the pass through.  I get the
above error messages when I try to call the POTS line connected to
DAHDI/1 from my Comcast line.  

I'm noticing other warning messages cropping up about this file or that
file not existing and modules not loading, but mostly the system seems
to be working so I'm wondering if these warnings are relevant.  I'm
using Asterisk 1.8.

I think that [from-pstn] isn't working...

For those who don't know what I'm after, I'm trying when a phone company
call comes in to ring SIP phones and local FXS lines on my TDM410P.  The
purpose of the toggle is to be able to disable this feature.  Sometimes,
I really want to use this system as a private intercom system where at
other times, ringing remote SIP phones for an incoming telephone company
call might be needed.  Say you are at extension 2000 or 2002, SIP phones
in other buildings, and you want or need to be able to receive calls
from the PSTN.

I'm in the U.S., under the [external] section am I blocking long
distance outgoing phone calls?  In the U.S., you dial 1 and then
the number for long distance.  Essentially, what I need to do is 
block dialing 1 and then a number with the exception of 1-800 or 
1-866.

Thank you for taking the time to look at my questions and
information ;-)

My current extensions.conf file in it's entirety follows:
-
[globals]
CENTURYLINK=DAHDI/1
COMCAST=DAHDI/2
ANDREWROOM=DAHDI/3
SERVERROOM=DAHDI/4
WIDE_PBX=SIP/2000SIP/2002SIP/2006SIP/2007SIP/2008SIP/2009
${SERVERROOM}${ANDREWROOM}
INSIDE_PBX=SIP/2006SIP/2007SIP/2008SIP/2009${SERVERROOM}
${ANDREWROOM}
OUTSIDE_PBX=SIP/2000SIP/2002
TELCO_ON=0
PSTN_THROUGH=${SERVERROOM}${ANDREWROOM}SIP/2000SIP/2002



[external]
exten = _9NXXNXX,1,Dial(${CENTURYLINK}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _8NXXNXX,1,Dial(${COMCAST}/${EXTEN:1})



[my-phones]
exten = i,1,Playback(/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/custom/extns-list)
exten = i,n,Hangup()

exten = 2000,1,Dial(SIP/2000,40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2000,u)

exten = 2002,1,Dial(SIP/2002,40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2002,u)

exten = 2004,1,Dial(SIP/2004,40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2004,u)

exten = 2006,1,Dial(SIP/2006,40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2006,u)

exten = 2007,1,Dial(SIP/2007,40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2007,u)

exten = 2008,1,Dial(SIP/2008,40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2008,u)

exten = 2009,1,Dial(SIP/2009,40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2009,u)

exten = 2010,1,Dial(${SERVERROOM},40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2009,u)

exten = 2010,1,Dial(${SERVERROOM},40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2010,u)

exten = 2011,1,Dial(${ANDREWROOM},40)
 same = n,VoiceMail(2011,u)

exten = 2012,1,Dial(${WIDE_PBX},40)

exten = 2013,1,Dial(${INSIDE_PBX},40)

exten = 2014,1,Dial(${OUTSIDE_PBX},40)

exten = 2015,1,GoToIf($[${TELCO_ON}=1]?2:5)
; 2 turns off telco_on
exten = 2015,2,Set(GLOBAL(TELCO_ON)=0)
exten = 2015,3,Playback(/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/custom/telco-off)
exten = 2015,4,hangup()
; 5 turns on telco_on
exten = 2015,5,Set(GLOBAL(TELCO_ON)=1)
exten = 2015,6,Playback(/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/custom/telco-on)
exten = 2015,7,hangup()

exten = 2999,1,VoiceMailMain(${CALLERID(num)},s)

[from-pstn]
exten = s,1,GoToIf($[${TELCO_ON}=1]?2:3)
; 2 rings all phones
exten = s,2,Dial(${PSTN_THROUGH},40)
exten = s,3,Hangup()

include = external
include = from-pstn


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS ports on TDM410P card...

2011-10-15 Thread James Sharp

On 10/15/2011 05:31 AM, Michael C. Robinson wrote:

[Oct 15 01:48:02] NOTICE[3747] channel.c: Dropping incompatible voice
frame on SIP/2006- of format ulaw since our native format has
changed to 0x8 (alaw)
[Oct 15 01:48:49] WARNING[3750] pbx.c: Channel 'DAHDI/1-1' sent into
invalid extension 's' in context 'default', but no invalid handler
--
I have the code to set up an extension for toggling Telco pass through
working I think.  What isn't working is the pass through.  I get the
above error messages when I try to call the POTS line connected to
DAHDI/1 from my Comcast line.

I'm noticing other warning messages cropping up about this file or that
file not existing and modules not loading, but mostly the system seems
to be working so I'm wondering if these warnings are relevant.  I'm
using Asterisk 1.8.

I think that [from-pstn] isn't working...


You're not landing in [from-pstn].  Incoming calls are landing in 
[default].  That's not a problem in extensions.conf, that's a problem in 
dahdi.conf for those channels.  They're not in the right context.




For those who don't know what I'm after, I'm trying when a phone company
call comes in to ring SIP phones and local FXS lines on my TDM410P.  The
purpose of the toggle is to be able to disable this feature.  Sometimes,
I really want to use this system as a private intercom system where at
other times, ringing remote SIP phones for an incoming telephone company
call might be needed.  Say you are at extension 2000 or 2002, SIP phones
in other buildings, and you want or need to be able to receive calls
from the PSTN.

I'm in the U.S., under the [external] section am I blocking long
distance outgoing phone calls?  In the U.S., you dial 1 and then
the number for long distance.  Essentially, what I need to do is
block dialing 1 and then a number with the exception of 1-800 or
1-866.


[external]
exten = _91800NXX,1,Dial(${CENTURYLINK}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _91888NXX,1,Dial(${CENTURYLINK}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _91877NXX,1,Dial(${CENTURYLINK}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _91866NXX,1,Dial(${CENTURYLINK}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _91NXXNXX,1,Playback(im-sorry-Dave-you-cant-call-that)
exten = _91NXXNXX,n,Congestion

exten = _81800NXX,1,Dial(${COMCAST}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _81888NXX,1,Dial(${COMCAST}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _81877NXX,1,Dial(${COMCAST}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _81866NXX,1,Dial(${COMCAST}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _81NXXNXX,1,Playback(im-sorry-Dave-you-cant-call-that)
exten = _81NXXNXX,n,Congestion


That'll let you dial US toll free numbers out the channel specified by 
dialing 9 or 8.  It will playback a message and then generate a 
congestion tone if some other number is dialed.




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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS ports on TDM410P card...

2011-10-13 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 12 October 2011, Michael C. Robinson wrote:

 [stuff deleted]
 Seems to be working now, good eyes.
 I have the O'Reilly book on Asterisk 1.8, though I'm wondering where to
 look in it to learn how to allow incoming calls from the phone company
 to ring SIP box and FXS connected handsets?  This would be a neat
 feature, especially if there was a way from the handset to turn it off.

You already set a default context for incoming calls from the phone company.  
You just need to specify multiple extensions in your Dial() statement, 
delimited by and signs.  For instance:

exten = s,1,Dial(DAHDI/3DAHDI/4SIP/301,60)

Or you can even create a global variable with the group of phones you want to 
ring.  For instance

[globals]
ANALOGUE=DAHDI/3DAHDI/4
BATPHONE=SIP/301

and later you can use something like

Dial(${ANALOGUE}${BATPHONE},60)

 
 Just to make sure I'm clear, imagine you are hooked to a Linksys PAP2
 and not only want to call out via the phone company but you want to
 receive calls there from the phone company as well.  Imagine there is
 an extension to call that toggles this behavior on/off.  So say 2025 is
 the special extension which you call and a voice says relaying phone
 company on.  You hang up then, the phone rings, and you pick up a call
 from somewhere remote via the phone company.  You hang up when you're
 done and decide the behavior should be turned off, so you dial 2025
 again and the voice says relaying phone company off.  Now if a call is
 incoming from the phone company, your phone doesn't ring.  You can call
 all local extensions and even remote numbers, but you can't receive
 remote calls.

You have to set a global variable when your special extension is dialled.  
Then you can use GoToIf() to make decisions based on the value.

[globals]
TELCO_ON=1
ALL_PHONES=DAHDI/3DAHDI/4SIP/301
; (assuming 301 is the SIP extension you want to ring)

; .

[internal]

; .

exten = 2025,1,GoToIf($[${TELCO_ON}=1]?2:5)
; 2 turns off telco_on
exten = 2025,2,Set(GLOBAL(TELCO_ON)=0)
exten = 2025,3,Playback(telco-off)
exten = 2025,4,hangup()
; 5 turns on telco_on
exten = 2025,5,Set(GLOBAL(TELCO_ON)=1)
exten = 2025,6,Playback(telco-on)
exten = 2025,7,hangup()

; .

[from-pstn]

exten = s,1,GoToIf($[${TELCO_ON}=1]?2:3)
; 2 rings all phones
exten = s,2,Dial(${ALL_PHONES},60)
; 3 goes to voicemail  (assuming you've configured VM on ext 301 .)
exten = s,3,VoiceMail(301,u)
exten = s,4,Hangup()

 [stuff deleted]  Another neat trick would be to list
 what the extensions are when someone enters an invalid extension.  Say
 someone dials 1011, not one of my extensions and not a remote phone
 number prefixed by 8 or 9.

Then you need to look at the i extension, which is called when someone dials 
an invalid extension number.  Record yourself a suitable message  (cheating 
way is to leave a voicemail message, which will already be in the format you 
want, and cp the file across)  and put something in your context like

exten = i,1,Playback(extns-list)
exten = i,n,Hangup()


 The last trick I want to pull, I want an extension that will ring
 inclusively 2000 to 2011, say 2012.  How do I set this up by hand?

Again, use the  sign notation for ringing multiple phones:

exten = 
2012,1,Dial(SIP/2000SIP/2001SIP/2002SIP/2003SIP/2004SIP/2005SIP/2006SIP/2007SIP/2008SIP/2009SIP/2010SIP/2011,60)
exten = 2012,2,Hangup()

My personal preference is to split departments on the hundreds, and use x00 as 
a ring all phones in department number.  For instance if numbers like 2xx 
are sales, 3xx are purchasing, 4xx are accounts, 5xx are IT, 6xx are factory 
floor, then I would make the number to call everybody in accounts 400.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS ports on TDM410P card...

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Reynolds

Quoting Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com:


My analog card, uses a PCI slot and a 12V power connector, is configured
with 2 FXO and 2 FXS modules.  I can ring handsets connected to the FXS
ports but I can't dial out from them.  Is extensions.conf where I need
to make changes?


You appear to have an inconsistency with context names...


[root@robin asterisk]# cat chan_dahdi.conf

...

[phone](!)

...

context = myphones



extensions.conf:

...

[my-phones]


Put that right and it should work, as you've designed it so far.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS ports on TDM410P card...

2011-10-12 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 12 October 2011, Michael C. Robinson wrote:
 My analog card, uses a PCI slot and a 12V power connector, is configured
 with 2 FXO and 2 FXS modules.  I can ring handsets connected to the FXS
 ports but I can't dial out from them.  Is extensions.conf where I need
 to make changes?

If you can't make calls *from* a phone, but you can make calls *to* it, that 
suggests a problem with its default context.

Your configuration snippets shew myphones as the default context in 
chan_dahdi.conf, but the context in the dialplan was my-phones.  Make them 
match up, reload all configuration files and it should all Just Work.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS ports on TDM410P card...

2011-10-12 Thread Michael C. Robinson
Changes so far:

chan_dahdi.conf:

[my-phones](!)
.
.
.
context = my-phones
signalling = fxo_ks
.
.
.
[phone1](my-phones)
.
.
.
[phone2](my-phones)
.
.
.
[phone3](my-phones)
.
.
.
[phone4](my-phones)

And extensions.conf is the same.

Seems to be working now, good eyes.

I have the O'Reilly book on Asterisk 1.8, though I'm wondering where to
look in it to learn how to allow incoming calls from the phone company
to ring SIP box and FXS connected handsets?  This would be a neat
feature, especially if there was a way from the handset to turn it off.

Just to make sure I'm clear, imagine you are hooked to a Linksys PAP2
and not only want to call out via the phone company but you want to
receive calls there from the phone company as well.  Imagine there is
an extension to call that toggles this behavior on/off.  So say 2025 is
the special extension which you call and a voice says relaying phone
company on.  You hang up then, the phone rings, and you pick up a call
from somewhere remote via the phone company.  You hang up when you're
done and decide the behavior should be turned off, so you dial 2025
again and the voice says relaying phone company off.  Now if a call is
incoming from the phone company, your phone doesn't ring.  You can call
all local extensions and even remote numbers, but you can't receive
remote calls.

Another trick I want to pull is this.  I have a few extensions, 2000 to
2011, where I'd like to have an extension someone can call to figure out
what these extensions are.  Say 1000 or even 0 if that will work.
Something easy to remember anyways.  Another neat trick would be to list
what the extensions are when someone enters an invalid extension.  Say
someone dials 1011, not one of my extensions and not a remote phone
number prefixed by 8 or 9.

The last trick I want to pull, I want an extension that will ring
inclusively 2000 to 2011, say 2012.  How do I set this up by hand?  

Thank you again for helping me figure out the context problem.


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS to SIP gateway

2009-10-14 Thread Ivan Stepaniuk
jonas kellens wrote:
 Hello list !
 
 I don't have the money to test out all the products and reading the
 manuals is not always that enlightening...
 
 Does someone here know a good gateway-product that lets analogue
 telephones communicate with an Asterisk-server.
 
 I have found the Grandstream GXW-400x to be able to add SIP-accounts to
 analogue telephone devices that are connected to the FXS-ports. Moreover
 this product has a backup-PSTN line for emergency calls and backup.
 
 Could you advice other products/manufacturers ?

I hope to see more replies because I was in your situation some years ago.
I'm far from an expert, but in my experience, at _that_ price range you
don't have a lot of products to choose from, the Cisco SPA3102 is
similar to what you are describing (Plus it's also a PSTN GW). Of this
kind, I used GXW-4004 and Linksys PAP2, SPA3000 (the Cisco 3102
predecesor), also some larger AddPac ATAs (www.addpac.com) with
excellent results, all of them have their pros and cons. The Digium
TDM410 cards and they have a very good price/quality relation, plus they
are intended for asterisk, plus you are supporting asterisk development.

For an ATA (FXS only) list you can check
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Analog+Telephone+Adapters

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS to SIP gateway

2009-10-14 Thread Jonathan Thurman
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:27 AM, jonas kellens
jonas.kell...@telenet.be wrote:
 Hello list !

 I don't have the money to test out all the products and reading the manuals
 is not always that enlightening...

 Does someone here know a good gateway-product that lets analogue telephones
 communicate with an Asterisk-server.

 I have found the Grandstream GXW-400x to be able to add SIP-accounts to
 analogue telephone devices that are connected to the FXS-ports. Moreover
 this product has a backup-PSTN line for emergency calls and backup.

 Could you advice other products/manufacturers ?


We have used Cisco 2800 series routers with voice cards that work fine
for PRI, but don't implement SIP the way they should.  Analog was not
so great.  We also tried to convert some Cisco VG-224s to SIP with
limited success.  I don't recommend using either of those (plus they
are expensive...)

Grandstream (GXW-4024) had major issues with Fax, so we only use them
for connecting for voice only applications.  They seem to work well
with Asterisk, and are easy to configure.  Don't count on fax working
at all though, or even worse working in some cases...

AudioCodes is where we finally found a product that does what we need.
 They are about twice as much as a Grandstream (at least for the
MP-124 vs GXW-4024) but have been rock solid for faxing so far.  They
also come in multiple configurations which is handy.  We use the
MP-114 2FXS/2FXO device at our remote sites for local PSTN access and
to connect a fax machine.  They also support survivability (proxy
registration) in case of WAN failure.  The complaints that I have are
that the web interface has A LOT going on, and there is no real CLI to
speak of.  Neither of these are real issues, just takes you a few more
minutes up front to read the manual.

I haven't tried any Adtran devices but have thought about purchasing
one to test with if I ever get the time.

-Jonathan

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS - TDM400 - No dial tone

2009-06-14 Thread Richard McNeilly
Ironhide*CLI dialplan show phones
[ Context 'phones' created by 'pbx_config' ]
  Include ='internal'[pbx_config]

-= 0 extensions (0 priorities) in 1 context. =-
Ironhide*CLI dialplan show internal
[ Context 'internal' created by 'pbx_config' ]
  '1000' = 1. Verbose(1|Extension 1000)  [pbx_config]
2. Dial(SIP/1000|30)  [pbx_config]
3. Hangup()   [pbx_config]
  '1001' = 1. Verbose(1|Unrouted call handler)   [pbx_config]
2. Answer()   [pbx_config]
3. Wait(1)[pbx_config]
4. Playback(our-business-hours-are)   [pbx_config]
5. Hangup()   [pbx_config]
  '500' =  1. Verbose(1|Echo test application)   [pbx_config]
2. Playback(our-business-hours-are)   [pbx_config]
3. Hangup()   [pbx_config]
  '_XXX' = 1. Verbose(1|Dial Digicel)[pbx_config]
2. Dial(${LOCAL_OUT_TRUNK}/${EXTEN})  [pbx_config]
3. Congestion()   [pbx_config]
4. Hangup()   [pbx_config]

-= 4 extensions (15 priorities) in 1 context. =-


Message: 11
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:32:16 +0300
From: Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] FXS - TDM400 - No dial tone
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message-ID: 20090614033216.gf3...@xorcom.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:13:11PM -0400, Richard McNeilly wrote:

 More Troubleshooting

 Ironhide*CLI zap show channels
 ?? Chan Extension? Context Language?? MOH Interpret
 ?pseudo??? phones default
 ? 2??? phones default
 ? 3??? incoming?? default
 ? 4??? incoming?? default

dialplan show phones


On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Richard McNeillyramcnei...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a TMD400 card installed in a PC with one fxs (installed in slot
 2) and two fxos (installed in slots 3  4).  fxos work fine but I am
 unable to get a dial tone for any devices connected to the fxs.  I
 have correctly connected the power supply to the card and I have even
 tried moving the card from slot 1 to 2 on the board.

 Below is from the console when I try to route a call from FXO on slot
 4 to the FXS on slot 2.  Notice the FXS is ringing

   -- Executing [...@incoming:1] Verbose(Zap/4-1, 1|Unrouted call
 handler) in new stack
  Unrouted call handler
     -- Executing [...@incoming:2] Answer(Zap/4-1, ) in new stack
     -- Executing [...@incoming:3] Wait(Zap/4-1, 1) in new stack
     -- Executing [...@incoming:4] Dial(Zap/4-1, Zap/2|30) in new stack
     -- Called 2
     -- Zap/2-1 is ringing
     -- Zap/2-1 is ringing
     -- Zap/2-1 is ringing
     -- Zap/2-1 is ringing

 zaptel.conf

 fxoks=2
 fxsks=3-4
 loadzone=us
 defaultzone=us


 zapata.conf

 [trunkgroups]
 ;define any trunk groups

 [channels]
 ; default
 usecallerid=yes
 hidecallerid=no
 callwaiting=no
 threewaycalling=yes
 transfer=yes
 echocancel=yes
 echotraining=yes
 immediate=no

 ; define incoming channels
 signalling=fxs_ks    ; Use FXS signaling for an FXO channel
 context=incoming
 callerid=asreceived
 group=1
 channel = 3,4 ; PSTN attached to port 3

 ; define outgoing channels
 signalling=fxo_ks  ; Use FXS signaling for an FXO channel
 context=phones
 group=2
 channel = 2



 More Troubleshooting

 Ironhide*CLI zap show channels
    Chan Extension  Context Language   MOH Interpret
  pseudo    phones default
   2    phones default
   3    incoming   default
   4    incoming   default


 ztcfg -vvv

 Zaptel Version: 1.4.11
 Echo Canceller: OSLEC
 Configuration
 ==


 Channel map:

 Channel 02: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 02)
 Channel 03: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 03)
 Channel 04: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 04)

 3 channels to configure.


 Software-wise things seem ok and I am certain that I have the power
 connected to the PCI card correctly.

 Any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong here?

 Richard


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS - TDM400 - No dial tone

2009-06-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:13:11PM -0400, Richard McNeilly wrote:

 More Troubleshooting
 
 Ironhide*CLI zap show channels
    Chan Extension  Context Language   MOH Interpret
  pseudo    phones default
   2    phones default
   3    incoming   default
   4    incoming   default

dialplan show phones

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Geraint Lee
There is indeed... well i was about to say there was, but it turns out the
one i've got is an fxo adapter, have a look and see if sangoma have any fxs
adapters in the series, it seems to be called the usbfxo u100

2009/5/26 Diogo Saad diogos...@gmail.com

 What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a PC running
 asterisk?

 I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is there any USB
 FXS adapter?

 Thanks

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Diogo Saad
what I want to do is to answers to mobile calls using a regular phone.

Is a usb fxs all I need? Does this u100 have smooth integration with
Asterisk ?


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Geraint Lee gera...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is indeed... well i was about to say there was, but it turns out the
 one i've got is an fxo adapter, have a look and see if sangoma have any fxs
 adapters in the series, it seems to be called the usbfxo u100

 2009/5/26 Diogo Saad diogos...@gmail.com

 What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a PC running
 asterisk?

 I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is there any USB
 FXS adapter?

 Thanks

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Steve Edwards
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Diogo Saad wrote:

 What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a PC running 
 asterisk?

 I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is there any 
 USB FXS adapter?

An Ethernet based ATA would be more versatile. I like Digium's 
discontinued IAXy. Dead simple to configure, easy to travel with, no NAT 
headaches.

Used on ebay should set you back about US$30.

Thanks in advance,

Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Lee Spenadel
How about a low cost ATA?   Just plug the ATA into the network, configure it
- along with a SIP definition within sip.conf and you're ready to go.

 

Lee

 

From: Diogo Saad [mailto:diogos...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:41 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] FXS

 

What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a PC running
asterisk?

I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is there any USB
FXS adapter?

Thanks

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Diogo Saad
Using an ATA, Do I still need a softphone or it´s embedded in the hardware?

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Steve Edwards
asterisk@sedwards.comwrote:

 On Tue, 26 May 2009, Diogo Saad wrote:

  What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a PC running
  asterisk?
 
  I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is there any
  USB FXS adapter?

 An Ethernet based ATA would be more versatile. I like Digium's
 discontinued IAXy. Dead simple to configure, easy to travel with, no NAT
 headaches.

 Used on ebay should set you back about US$30.

 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Jon Pounder
Diogo Saad wrote:
 Using an ATA, Do I still need a softphone or it´s embedded in the 
 hardware?

plain old walmart phone plugs in the ata (with or without callerid, 
adsi, cordless, etc)


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk.org 
 http://asterisk.org@sedwards.com http://sedwards.com wrote:

 On Tue, 26 May 2009, Diogo Saad wrote:

  What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a PC running
  asterisk?
 
  I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is
 there any
  USB FXS adapter?

 An Ethernet based ATA would be more versatile. I like Digium's
 discontinued IAXy. Dead simple to configure, easy to travel with,
 no NAT
 headaches.

 Used on ebay should set you back about US$30.

 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com
 mailto:sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline Fax:
 +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Diogo Saad
how do I configure my SIP account information? I mean, sip proxy and etc.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Jon Pounder j...@inline.net wrote:

 Diogo Saad wrote:
  Using an ATA, Do I still need a softphone or it´s embedded in the
  hardware?

 plain old walmart phone plugs in the ata (with or without callerid,
 adsi, cordless, etc)

 
  On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk.org
  http://asterisk.org@sedwards.com http://sedwards.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, 26 May 2009, Diogo Saad wrote:
 
   What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a PC running
   asterisk?
  
   I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is
  there any
   USB FXS adapter?
 
  An Ethernet based ATA would be more versatile. I like Digium's
  discontinued IAXy. Dead simple to configure, easy to travel with,
  no NAT
  headaches.
 
  Used on ebay should set you back about US$30.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
 
  Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com
  mailto:sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS

2009-05-26 Thread Jon Pounder
Diogo Saad wrote:
 how do I configure my SIP account information? I mean, sip proxy and etc.

you need just a couple pieces of information
server (put this in any setting that says proxy or host etc, all set the 
same)
account (the extension in asterisk, put anywhere that sounds like a 
non-display only field)
password (secret, key, password etc., should be one field that takes 
this in the config)
register = yes

basically that's it.


you mean need to disable feature codes etc, but the above will get most 
any sip device working with asterisk once you setup an extension for it.

 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Jon Pounder j...@inline.net 
 mailto:j...@inline.net wrote:

 Diogo Saad wrote:
  Using an ATA, Do I still need a softphone or it´s embedded in the
  hardware?

 plain old walmart phone plugs in the ata (with or without callerid,
 adsi, cordless, etc)

 
  On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk.org
 http://asterisk.org
  http://asterisk.org@sedwards.com http://sedwards.com
 http://sedwards.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, 26 May 2009, Diogo Saad wrote:
 
   What is the easiest way to connect my black phone to a
 PC running
   asterisk?
  
   I don't need multiple extensions, I've got just 1 phone. Is
  there any
   USB FXS adapter?
 
  An Ethernet based ATA would be more versatile. I like Digium's
  discontinued IAXy. Dead simple to configure, easy to travel
 with,
  no NAT
  headaches.
 
  Used on ebay should set you back about US$30.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
 
  Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com
 mailto:sedwa...@sedwards.com
  mailto:sedwa...@sedwards.com
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Line Voltage When Dahdi/Zaptel is off?

2009-04-03 Thread Noah Miller
 You mean when the driver is not loaded ?
 It doesn't. The driver enables the current drawn.

 Well that is my guess. But since I have one card handy I'll confirm for you.
 CONFIRMED. No power without the driver loaded

Excellent.  Thanks, Martin!  I didn't have one to test with (yet).





 Martin

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 Hi -

 Does anybody know if an FXS generates line voltage when Dahdi/Zaptel
 is disabled?


 Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Line Voltage When Dahdi/Zaptel is off?

2009-04-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:28:04PM -0500, Martin wrote:
 You mean when the driver is not loaded ?
 It doesn't. The driver enables the current drawn.

Note: that's when the *driver* is loaded. Regardless of whether or not
the channel is configured with Asterisk.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Line Voltage When Dahdi/Zaptel is off?

2009-04-02 Thread Martin
You mean when the driver is not loaded ?
It doesn't. The driver enables the current drawn.

Well that is my guess. But since I have one card handy I'll confirm for you.
CONFIRMED. No power without the driver loaded

Martin

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 Hi -

 Does anybody know if an FXS generates line voltage when Dahdi/Zaptel
 is disabled?


 Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Help Needed...

2009-01-12 Thread Paul Hales

I have used the xorcom usb units for fax a few times, and they work
pretty well.

PaulH


Gregory Malsack wrote:

 Hello All,

  

 I have a need to connect an analog device to an asterisk server. The
 analog device has 4 analog lines going into it (it’s a fax solution).
 The fax solution answers the analog call, then listens for dtmf. The
 dtmf code that is played tells the fax device what email address to
 send the fax to. All calls on our system come into the server through
 a PRI. The faxes come in over a PRI, the current phone system routes
 the faxes to the device, then sends the dtmf, then bridges the fax
 transmission.

  

 Does anyone know how I can do this on an asterisk system? I have the
 PRI card, and have an 8 port fxs card in the system as well. Is it as
 easy as picking up the line and dialing the 4 digit dtmf, just like it
 was an fxo port?

  

 Thanks,

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS Help Needed...

2009-01-12 Thread David Backeberg
those cards don't terminate faxes directly; that is, they aren't fax
modems. You can redirect the call to a fake fax with hylafax and
asterisk.

2009/1/12 Gregory Malsack gmals...@gmellc.com:
 Hello All,



 I have a need to connect an analog device to an asterisk server. The analog
 device has 4 analog lines going into it (it's a fax solution). The fax
 solution answers the analog call, then listens for dtmf. The dtmf code that
 is played tells the fax device what email address to send the fax to. All
 calls on our system come into the server through a PRI. The faxes come in
 over a PRI, the current phone system routes the faxes to the device, then
 sends the dtmf, then bridges the fax transmission.



 Does anyone know how I can do this on an asterisk system? I have the PRI
 card, and have an 8 port fxs card in the system as well. Is it as easy as
 picking up the line and dialing the 4 digit dtmf, just like it was an fxo
 port?



 Thanks,

 Greg

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS port doesn't provide dialtone

2008-06-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:15:48AM +0200, Paul Schewietzek wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I want to connect a fax to an FXS port (TDM420P). For testing purposes,
 I connected an analogue phone to it first. However, when I pick it up, I
 cannot hear anything at all.

Is Asterisk actually running?
Configured to use those channels?

What is the output of:

  cat /proc/zaptel/*
  asterisk -rx 'zap show channels'

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS port doesn't provide dialtone

2008-06-20 Thread Paul Schewietzek
maggie1:~# cat /proc/zaptel/*
Span 1: WCT1/0 Wildcard TE121 Card 0 (MASTER) HDB3/CCS/CRC4 
IRQ misses: 31

   1 WCT1/0/1 Clear (In use) 
   2 WCT1/0/2 Clear (In use) 
   3 WCT1/0/3 Clear (In use) 
   4 WCT1/0/4 Clear (In use) 
   5 WCT1/0/5 Clear (In use) 
   6 WCT1/0/6 Clear (In use) 
   7 WCT1/0/7 Clear (In use) 
   8 WCT1/0/8 Clear (In use) 
   9 WCT1/0/9 Clear (In use) 
  10 WCT1/0/10 Clear (In use) 
  11 WCT1/0/11 Clear (In use) 
  12 WCT1/0/12 Clear (In use) 
  13 WCT1/0/13 Clear (In use) 
  14 WCT1/0/14 Clear (In use) 
  15 WCT1/0/15 Clear (In use) 
  16 WCT1/0/16 HDLCFCS (In use) 
  17 WCT1/0/17 Clear (In use) 
  18 WCT1/0/18 Clear (In use) 
  19 WCT1/0/19 Clear (In use) 
  20 WCT1/0/20 Clear (In use) 
  21 WCT1/0/21 Clear (In use) 
  22 WCT1/0/22 Clear (In use) 
  23 WCT1/0/23 Clear (In use) 
  24 WCT1/0/24 Clear (In use) 
  25 WCT1/0/25 Clear (In use) 
  26 WCT1/0/26 Clear (In use) 
  27 WCT1/0/27 Clear (In use) 
  28 WCT1/0/28 Clear (In use) 
  29 WCT1/0/29 Clear (In use) 
  30 WCT1/0/30 Clear (In use) 
  31 WCT1/0/31 Clear (In use) 
Span 2: WCTDM/0 Wildcard TDM410P Board 1 
IRQ misses: 5

  32 WCTDM/0/0 FXSKS 
  33 WCTDM/0/1 FXSKS 
  34 WCTDM/0/2 FXOKS (In use) 
  35 WCTDM/0/3 FXOKS (In use) 

maggie1:~# asterisk -rx 'zap show channels'
   Chan Extension  Context Language   MOH Interpret   
 pseudofrom-analog de default 
  1from-pstn   de default 
  2from-pstn   de default 
  3from-pstn   de default 
  4from-pstn   de default 
  5from-pstn   de default 
  6from-pstn   de default 
  7from-pstn   de default 
  8from-pstn   de default 
  9from-pstn   de default 
 10from-pstn   de default 
 11from-pstn   de default 
 12from-pstn   de default 
 13from-pstn   de default 
 14from-pstn   de default 
 15from-pstn   de default 
 17from-pstn   de default 
 18from-pstn   de default 
 19from-pstn   de default 
 20from-pstn   de default 
 21from-pstn   de default 
 22from-pstn   de default 
 23from-pstn   de default 
 24from-pstn   de default 
 25from-pstn   de default 
 26from-pstn   de default 
 27from-pstn   de default 
 28from-pstn   de default 
 29from-pstn   de default 
 30from-pstn   de default 
 31from-pstn   de default 
 34from-faxde default 
 35from-analog de default 

Asterisk is running and working for all SIP phones and the TE121,
connected to an E1 :)

I'm beginning to wonder if the card (the TDM400) is actually OK, or if
the FXS module might be broken...

About the channel configuration: Is it invalid to associate a group to
an analog line? Right now, I said Asterik to Dial(ZAP/g4/${EXTEN}) when
the extension for channel 34 gets called from outside. Could it be
possible that a channel with FXO signalling ignores the group= option in
zapata.conf?

Am Freitag, den 20.06.2008, 11:24 +0300 schrieb Tzafrir Cohen:
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:15:48AM +0200, Paul Schewietzek wrote:
  Hello everyone,
  
  I want to connect a fax to an FXS port (TDM420P). For testing purposes,
  I connected an analogue phone to it first. However, when I pick it up, I
  cannot hear anything at all.
 
 Is Asterisk actually running?
 Configured to use those channels?
 
 What is the output of:
 
   cat /proc/zaptel/*
   asterisk -rx 'zap show channels'
 


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS port doesn't provide dialtone

2008-06-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi

not the issue here, but yo asked and thus I'll answer:

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:51:27AM +0200, Paul Schewietzek wrote:

 Could it be
 possible that a channel with FXO signalling ignores the group= option in
 zapata.conf?

A. no problem with that.

B. This is only related to dialing out, not to incoming calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS, Power and Sangoma

2008-04-02 Thread Tim Nelson
That does indeed sound a bit odd. I've run 12-48 FXS ports from a single molex 
connector with Sangoma hardware. Try testing your power supply with a 
multimeter to ensure its putting out the proper voltage. I would not trust the 
extnernal AC adapters as I've found they typically have voltage that is too 
low...

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.

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Subject: [asterisk-users] FXS, Power and Sangoma

Hi
   I've a Sangoma A200D with 2FXO and 2FXS.  When using it with only  
the FXO module, it's all good.  But when I put in the FXS module and  
connect the power, logs tells me not enough power.

 Mar 31 14:11:54 phone kernel: [ 4761.246931] wanpipe1: Module 1:  
 Failed to powerup within 600 ms (8V : 72V)!
 Mar 31 14:11:54 phone kernel: [ 4761.246937] wanpipe1: Module 1: Did  
 you remember to plug in the power cable?


So I disconnect other power devices in the box (Dell Optiplex GX270)  
such as the Zip drive and CDROMs, but no luck.  Then I took an  
external power supply with molex connector 
(http://www.coolerguys.com/840556029977.html 
  or http://www.cablesonline.com/mo4inpotoacp.html) and tried that  
with still the same thing.

How much power does this card need?  The AC adapter puts out up to 2  
Amps.  Sangoma support is only telling me to get a bigger power supply  
and don't use the AC adapter.  Has anyone else seen this issue?  Could  
something else be wrong?
  thanks
Todd

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread James Finstrom
I assume span 2 is set ti T1...

Also you should be using a crossover if your going from the card direct
to the channel bank. Remember an RJ48 crossover and an RH45 crossover
are not the same.. It you are using an RJ48 crossover and your span 2 is
T1 then try auto T1

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Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
 Any luck with the channel bank?
 
 Thanks for the reminder Paul but so far no luck.

 I have been getting: 
 1) *** Initialising: Trying to frame D4 / ESF on the channel bank
 2) Red flashing light on port 2 of the TE412P card

 I have checked a few things here and there but I think I must have
 missed some basic stuff.  The funny thing is before I purchase the Rhino
 channel bank, I have been assured that it will work although we are
 using E1 downunder.  Here is my configuration:

 Asterisk box
 TE412P Port 1 --- E1
Port 2 --- Rhino 24 port FXS (CB24-FXS-UNIV)
Port 3
Port 4

 [zaptel.conf]
 #
 # E1
 #
 span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=1-15
 bchan=17-21
 unused=22-31
 dchan=16
 #
 # Rhino 24-port Channel Bank
 #
 span=2,0,0,esf,b8zs
 fxols=32-55

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread Paul Hales

Have you tried setting the card as being T1 instead of E1 for the port
connected to the channel bank?

PaulH


On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 15:33 +1100, Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
  Any luck with the channel bank?
 Thanks for the reminder Paul but so far no luck.
 
 I have been getting: 
 1) *** Initialising: Trying to frame D4 / ESF on the channel bank
 2) Red flashing light on port 2 of the TE412P card
 
 I have checked a few things here and there but I think I must have
 missed some basic stuff.  The funny thing is before I purchase the Rhino
 channel bank, I have been assured that it will work although we are
 using E1 downunder.  Here is my configuration:
 
 Asterisk box
 TE412P Port 1 --- E1
Port 2 --- Rhino 24 port FXS (CB24-FXS-UNIV)
Port 3
Port 4
 
 [zaptel.conf]
 #
 # E1
 #
 span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=1-15
 bchan=17-21
 unused=22-31
 dchan=16
 #
 # Rhino 24-port Channel Bank
 #
 span=2,0,0,esf,b8zs
 fxols=32-55
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
 I assume span 2 is set ti T1...
Thanks James.  I will check.
 
 Also you should be using a crossover if your going from the card
direct
 to the channel bank. Remember an RJ48 crossover and an RH45 crossover
 are not the same.. It you are using an RJ48 crossover and your span 2
is
 T1 then try auto T1
 
I hope so.  I was using the red cable that comes with the product.
Do you by any chance have the pin settings of an RJ48 crossover?
I want to make a few by myself as a backup.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
 Have you tried setting the card as being T1 instead of E1 for the port
 connected to the channel bank?
Thanks Paul.
I was thinking about the same thing as I was leaving work today.
I will try to set the jumper just on port 2 and let you know.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread James Finstrom
on an 8 pin connector (rj48) copper up facing away pins labled left to
right 1-8

side a 1 white/blue
side a 2 blue/white
side a 4 white/orange
side a 5 orange/white

side b 1 white/orange
side b 2 orange/white
side b 4 white/blue
side b 5 blue/white

Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
 I assume span 2 is set ti T1...
 
 Thanks James.  I will check.
   
 Also you should be using a crossover if your going from the card
 
 direct
   
 to the channel bank. Remember an RJ48 crossover and an RH45 crossover
 are not the same.. It you are using an RJ48 crossover and your span 2
 
 is
   
 T1 then try auto T1

 
 I hope so.  I was using the red cable that comes with the product.
 Do you by any chance have the pin settings of an RJ48 crossover?
 I want to make a few by myself as a backup.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
 I was thinking about the same thing as I was leaving work today.
 I will try to set the jumper just on port 2 and let you know.
Yes, that fixed the problem.
Thanks James and Paul.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread James Finstrom
Good to here,
 I know the time off set US - AU is terrible when you need support.

Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
 I was thinking about the same thing as I was leaving work today.
 I will try to set the jumper just on port 2 and let you know.
 
 Yes, that fixed the problem.
 Thanks James and Paul.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
 Good to here,
 I know the time off set US - AU is terrible when you need support.

I have continued to configure the analogue phone by just adding new
extensions (just like any VOIP phone) to extensions.conf as follows:
exten = 5162,1,SetMusicOnHold(cpwr)
exten = 5162,n,Dial(Zap/32,20)
exten = 5162,n,VoiceMail,5162
exten = 5162,n,Playback(vm-goodbye)
exten = 5162,n,Wait(2)
exten = 5162,n,HangUp()

I was able to call out and call in.
However, I noticed that if I dial from the analog phone to a VOIP phone,
asterisk shows up as the dialler on the VOIP phone.  This is because
it is not registered in SIP.

Because I think analog phone does not use SIP, so I thought I don't need
to configure sip.conf.  Am I correct?  Did I miss anything in
configuring an analog phone?


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-25 Thread Paul Hales

I think you can set callerid's in zaptel.conf for each analog port - I
did that for a client a while ago. (from memory)

PaulH


On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:53 +1100, Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
  Good to here,
  I know the time off set US - AU is terrible when you need support.
 
 I have continued to configure the analogue phone by just adding new
 extensions (just like any VOIP phone) to extensions.conf as follows:
 exten = 5162,1,SetMusicOnHold(cpwr)
 exten = 5162,n,Dial(Zap/32,20)
 exten = 5162,n,VoiceMail,5162
 exten = 5162,n,Playback(vm-goodbye)
 exten = 5162,n,Wait(2)
 exten = 5162,n,HangUp()
 
 I was able to call out and call in.
 However, I noticed that if I dial from the analog phone to a VOIP phone,
 asterisk shows up as the dialler on the VOIP phone.  This is because
 it is not registered in SIP.
 
 Because I think analog phone does not use SIP, so I thought I don't need
 to configure sip.conf.  Am I correct?  Did I miss anything in
 configuring an analog phone?
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-24 Thread Paul Hales

Any luck with the channel bank?

PaulH


On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 18:09 +1100, Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
  What kind of information are you looking for? configuration or? If you
  look in our manuals our cards and the Digium cards configure the same
  in zaptel and zapata.
 
 Hi James, I have purchased a CB24-FXS-UNIV and am using a TE412P card
 with a Asterisk 1.4 box.
 One port of the card is connected to an E1.  I was told to connect a
 second port to the Rhino box.
 The rest of the procedure is a bit of a mystery to me at this stage but
 I am ready to dive into it :-)
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-24 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
 Any luck with the channel bank?
Thanks for the reminder Paul but so far no luck.

I have been getting: 
1) *** Initialising: Trying to frame D4 / ESF on the channel bank
2) Red flashing light on port 2 of the TE412P card

I have checked a few things here and there but I think I must have
missed some basic stuff.  The funny thing is before I purchase the Rhino
channel bank, I have been assured that it will work although we are
using E1 downunder.  Here is my configuration:

Asterisk box
TE412P Port 1 --- E1
   Port 2 --- Rhino 24 port FXS (CB24-FXS-UNIV)
   Port 3
   Port 4

[zaptel.conf]
#
# E1
#
span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=1-15
bchan=17-21
unused=22-31
dchan=16
#
# Rhino 24-port Channel Bank
#
span=2,0,0,esf,b8zs
fxols=32-55

Any thoughts?

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-19 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
 What kind of information are you looking for? configuration or? If you
 look in our manuals our cards and the Digium cards configure the same
 in zaptel and zapata.

Hi James, I have purchased a CB24-FXS-UNIV and am using a TE412P card
with a Asterisk 1.4 box.
One port of the card is connected to an E1.  I was told to connect a
second port to the Rhino box.
The rest of the procedure is a bit of a mystery to me at this stage but
I am ready to dive into it :-)


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-09 Thread Faraz Khan
yeah, boot off a flash card. true. guess use one of the xorcom servers  
:) You guys should make one with pre-installed ABE for certain larger  
customers.

Quoting Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:41:50PM +0500, Faraz Khan wrote:

  Just think of a different alternative: If you consider the cost of a
  24/32/48 FXS channel bank, vs. the cost of the PC used to driver it:
  just put a simple PC at that end of the campus and attach the Astribank
  to it.
 

 A simple PC? Thats just asking for trouble. In my experience if this
 is an enterprise, you would need atleast a HP ML 150 with redundant
 PSU and Raid 5  + 1 spare disk, redundant fans EVERYWHERE! :)

 For such a satelite server?

 Get a small system with no moving parts. A bit more reliable (and less
 noisy :-) ) than such a server. Do use a reliable system as your main
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-09 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:54:11PM +0500, Faraz Khan wrote:
  Get a small system with no moving parts. A bit more reliable (and less
  noisy :-) ) than such a server. Do use a reliable system as your main
  server.

 yeah, boot off a flash card. true. guess use one of the xorcom servers  
 :) You guys should make one with pre-installed ABE for certain larger  
 customers.

Or, y'know, just go to a dedicated Ethernet FXS port server, which is
precisely where we started this conversation.

Cheers,
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 08:28:14PM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 Ethernet/SIP is going to be by far the most flexible.
 
 You can have much longer cable runs without some kind of USB repeater
 device.  Switches are cheap, CAT5/6 is cheap.
 

 You could put a Quintum Tenor AX 48 Port (for instance) in one section
 of a building, campus, LAN (WAN if you are daring) and the server
 could be anywhere, not tied by 15 or 30 foot USB cables.  Then if you
 are doing new wiring, you can run the shortest distance from the
 location of the SIP FXS device to the phones.

Just think of a different alternative: If you consider the cost of a
24/32/48 FXS channel bank, vs. the cost of the PC used to driver it:
just put a simple PC at that end of the campus and attach the Astribank
to it.

 
 You can have redundant, self healing links as well as link aggregation.
 
 I cannot see how TDMoE or USB come anywhere close to this flexibility
 and certainly don't see it being a fit for high port densities like
 discussed.
 
 I see TDM0E as something that a tech guy thought would be cool (and it
 is but not very practical) and a USB device something suited for the
 SoHo (but missing the scalability, redundancy, and flexibility that IP
 gives.)

As for USB: this is also what I thought before actually starting to work
with it. Sure, there are limitations. But the Linux USB stack is a nice
one.

As for TDMoE, I know that at least the current ztd-eth in Zaptel is 
considered broken. Fixing it would be appreciated if you actually want 
to use it :-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Faraz Khan
To support the quintum viewpoint we have deployed the Tenor AX 24-Port  
FXS in mass configurations (200-300 extensions) without issues. In a  
newer project we are going to do 1000 FXS extensions. They are  
exceptionally reliable.

Steve- I thought Quintum doesnt do 48 Port FXS gateways? Last I found  
out from quintum was that that max is 48 port FXO or 24 Port FXS. Is  
this correct?



Quoting Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Tzafrir Cohen  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 03:00:03PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
   On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:14:57AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 
 http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html

 Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs  
 and I'm not
 sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?
   
One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in
the form of PCI card and get extra bandwidth.
  
   Is there any reason you'd want to do that on a system of that scale
   instead of just using Ethernetted FXS boxes on a dedicated 100Base?
  
   Even if you didn't want to use reinvite, seems you'd still win just
   from the less expensive host interface (I can't understand people using
   T-1 interfaces for FXS channels either, honestly, in the current
   environment).

  USB is very cheap. It's in every computer. A dedicated ethernet segment
  costs more to set up that an extra USB segment (a 10$ for an extra USB
  controller? 20$ for a USB hub? a bit more for the wiring?).

  TDMoE is more complicated as the latency is higher and the jitter is
  larger.


  Now both thing have been (T1 channel banks, and TDMoE) have been done by
  others. People do use and buy them. I don't intend to say that they
  don't. But ours does as well :-)


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 Ethernet/SIP is going to be by far the most flexible.

 You can have much longer cable runs without some kind of USB repeater
 device.  Switches are cheap, CAT5/6 is cheap.

 You could put a Quintum Tenor AX 48 Port (for instance) in one section
 of a building, campus, LAN (WAN if you are daring) and the server
 could be anywhere, not tied by 15 or 30 foot USB cables.  Then if you
 are doing new wiring, you can run the shortest distance from the
 location of the SIP FXS device to the phones.

 You can have redundant, self healing links as well as link aggregation.

 I cannot see how TDMoE or USB come anywhere close to this flexibility
 and certainly don't see it being a fit for high port densities like
 discussed.

 I see TDM0E as something that a tech guy thought would be cool (and it
 is but not very practical) and a USB device something suited for the
 SoHo (but missing the scalability, redundancy, and flexibility that IP
 gives.)

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Faraz Khan
I would however be interested in knowing how these USB channel banks  
work out in a extremely large environment. Cost/Reliability and  
management wise.Keep in mind that grandstream now has a 24 port FXS  
gateway which retails for $700- and their newer 8 port gateways are  
extremely good.


Quoting Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Tzafrir Cohen  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 03:00:03PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
   On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:14:57AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 
 http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html

 Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs  
 and I'm not
 sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?
   
One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in
the form of PCI card and get extra bandwidth.
  
   Is there any reason you'd want to do that on a system of that scale
   instead of just using Ethernetted FXS boxes on a dedicated 100Base?
  
   Even if you didn't want to use reinvite, seems you'd still win just
   from the less expensive host interface (I can't understand people using
   T-1 interfaces for FXS channels either, honestly, in the current
   environment).

  USB is very cheap. It's in every computer. A dedicated ethernet segment
  costs more to set up that an extra USB segment (a 10$ for an extra USB
  controller? 20$ for a USB hub? a bit more for the wiring?).

  TDMoE is more complicated as the latency is higher and the jitter is
  larger.


  Now both thing have been (T1 channel banks, and TDMoE) have been done by
  others. People do use and buy them. I don't intend to say that they
  don't. But ours does as well :-)


  --
Tzafrir Cohen
  icq#16849755  jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  +972-50-7952406   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.xorcom.com  iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir


 Ethernet/SIP is going to be by far the most flexible.

 You can have much longer cable runs without some kind of USB repeater
 device.  Switches are cheap, CAT5/6 is cheap.

 You could put a Quintum Tenor AX 48 Port (for instance) in one section
 of a building, campus, LAN (WAN if you are daring) and the server
 could be anywhere, not tied by 15 or 30 foot USB cables.  Then if you
 are doing new wiring, you can run the shortest distance from the
 location of the SIP FXS device to the phones.

 You can have redundant, self healing links as well as link aggregation.

 I cannot see how TDMoE or USB come anywhere close to this flexibility
 and certainly don't see it being a fit for high port densities like
 discussed.

 I see TDM0E as something that a tech guy thought would be cool (and it
 is but not very practical) and a USB device something suited for the
 SoHo (but missing the scalability, redundancy, and flexibility that IP
 gives.)

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Raúl Gómez C.
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Faraz Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve- I thought Quintum doesnt do 48 Port FXS gateways? Last I found
 out from quintum was that that max is 48 port FXO or 24 Port FXS. Is
 this correct?


Yep, just up yo 24 FXS and up to 48 FXO...

http://www.quintum.com/enterprise/entspecs.html?id=21


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Faraz Khan

 Just think of a different alternative: If you consider the cost of a
 24/32/48 FXS channel bank, vs. the cost of the PC used to driver it:
 just put a simple PC at that end of the campus and attach the Astribank
 to it.


A simple PC? Thats just asking for trouble. In my experience if this  
is an enterprise, you would need atleast a HP ML 150 with redundant  
PSU and Raid 5  + 1 spare disk, redundant fans EVERYWHERE! :)

Dont get me wrong. I think the idea of having a USB channel bank is  
great- but deployment in distributed or a 'campus' network would be  
very problematic compared to a quintum/grandstream SIP gateway  
(completely solid state / no pc required/ consumes little power)


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:41:50PM +0500, Faraz Khan wrote:
 
  Just think of a different alternative: If you consider the cost of a
  24/32/48 FXS channel bank, vs. the cost of the PC used to driver it:
  just put a simple PC at that end of the campus and attach the Astribank
  to it.
 
 
 A simple PC? Thats just asking for trouble. In my experience if this  
 is an enterprise, you would need atleast a HP ML 150 with redundant  
 PSU and Raid 5  + 1 spare disk, redundant fans EVERYWHERE! :)

For such a satelite server?

Get a small system with no moving parts. A bit more reliable (and less
noisy :-) ) than such a server. Do use a reliable system as your main
server.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Dumpolid Exeplish
Why not get a TDMoE multiplexer, check out http://spidermux.com/



On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:41:50PM +0500, Faraz Khan wrote:
  
Just think of a different alternative: If you consider the cost of a
24/32/48 FXS channel bank, vs. the cost of the PC used to driver it:
just put a simple PC at that end of the campus and attach the Astribank
to it.
   
  
   A simple PC? Thats just asking for trouble. In my experience if this
   is an enterprise, you would need atleast a HP ML 150 with redundant
   PSU and Raid 5  + 1 spare disk, redundant fans EVERYWHERE! :)

  For such a satelite server?

  Get a small system with no moving parts. A bit more reliable (and less
  noisy :-) ) than such a server. Do use a reliable system as your main
  server.


  --
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-08 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Dumpolid Exeplish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why not get a TDMoE multiplexer, check out http://spidermux.com/

Maybe I am missing the concept, but why would you get a TDMoE
multiplexer for the OP's usage?

I can't really think under what circumstances this would be valuable.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-07 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:14:57AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html
  
  Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs and I'm not 
  sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?
 
 One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
 USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in
 the form of PCI card and get extra bandwidth.

Is there any reason you'd want to do that on a system of that scale
instead of just using Ethernetted FXS boxes on a dedicated 100Base?

Even if you didn't want to use reinvite, seems you'd still win just
from the less expensive host interface (I can't understand people using
T-1 interfaces for FXS channels either, honestly, in the current
environment).

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
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Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-07 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:14:57AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
   
 http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html
   
Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs and I'm not
sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?
  
   One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
   USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in
   the form of PCI card and get extra bandwidth.

  Is there any reason you'd want to do that on a system of that scale
  instead of just using Ethernetted FXS boxes on a dedicated 100Base?

  Even if you didn't want to use reinvite, seems you'd still win just
  from the less expensive host interface (I can't understand people using
  T-1 interfaces for FXS channels either, honestly, in the current
  environment).


  Cheers,
  -- jra
  --
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 PROTECTED]
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 2100
  Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 
 e24
  St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 
 1274

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  Those who count the vote decide everything.
-- (Joseph Stalin)


http://www.quintum.com/enterprise/en_productdetail.html?id=19

48 Port, you cannot go wrong although, you are going to pay a bit,
well worth it.  Besides, breaking it down per port makes it a little
more palatable.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-07 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:14:57AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 
 http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html
 
  Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs and I'm 
 not
  sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?

 One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
 USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in
 the form of PCI card and get extra bandwidth.
  
Is there any reason you'd want to do that on a system of that scale
instead of just using Ethernetted FXS boxes on a dedicated 100Base?
  
Even if you didn't want to use reinvite, seems you'd still win just
from the less expensive host interface (I can't understand people using
T-1 interfaces for FXS channels either, honestly, in the current
environment).
  
  
Cheers,
-- jra
--
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 PROTECTED]
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 
 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 
 '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 
 1274
  
Those who cast the vote decide nothing.
Those who count the vote decide everything.
  -- (Joseph Stalin)


  http://www.quintum.com/enterprise/en_productdetail.html?id=19

  48 Port, you cannot go wrong although, you are going to pay a bit,
  well worth it.  Besides, breaking it down per port makes it a little
  more palatable.

  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro


Sorry, wrong link.

http://www.quintum.com/enterprise/en_productdetail.html?id=21

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-07 Thread Felipe Trevisan
200 extensions, take 100 PAP2 and you´re set.

The trouble would be configuring them all.
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 03:00:03PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:14:57AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
  
   http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html
   
   Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs and I'm not 
   sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?
  
  One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
  USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in
  the form of PCI card and get extra bandwidth.
 
 Is there any reason you'd want to do that on a system of that scale
 instead of just using Ethernetted FXS boxes on a dedicated 100Base?
 
 Even if you didn't want to use reinvite, seems you'd still win just
 from the less expensive host interface (I can't understand people using
 T-1 interfaces for FXS channels either, honestly, in the current
 environment).

USB is very cheap. It's in every computer. A dedicated ethernet segment
costs more to set up that an extra USB segment (a 10$ for an extra USB
controller? 20$ for a USB hub? a bit more for the wiring?).

TDMoE is more complicated as the latency is higher and the jitter is 
larger. 


Now both thing have been (T1 channel banks, and TDMoE) have been done by
others. People do use and buy them. I don't intend to say that they
don't. But ours does as well :-)

-- 
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+972-50-7952406   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-07 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 03:00:03PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
   On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:14:57AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html

 Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs and I'm not
 sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?
   
One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in
the form of PCI card and get extra bandwidth.
  
   Is there any reason you'd want to do that on a system of that scale
   instead of just using Ethernetted FXS boxes on a dedicated 100Base?
  
   Even if you didn't want to use reinvite, seems you'd still win just
   from the less expensive host interface (I can't understand people using
   T-1 interfaces for FXS channels either, honestly, in the current
   environment).

  USB is very cheap. It's in every computer. A dedicated ethernet segment
  costs more to set up that an extra USB segment (a 10$ for an extra USB
  controller? 20$ for a USB hub? a bit more for the wiring?).

  TDMoE is more complicated as the latency is higher and the jitter is
  larger.


  Now both thing have been (T1 channel banks, and TDMoE) have been done by
  others. People do use and buy them. I don't intend to say that they
  don't. But ours does as well :-)


  --
Tzafrir Cohen
  icq#16849755  jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  +972-50-7952406   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.xorcom.com  iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir


Ethernet/SIP is going to be by far the most flexible.

You can have much longer cable runs without some kind of USB repeater
device.  Switches are cheap, CAT5/6 is cheap.

You could put a Quintum Tenor AX 48 Port (for instance) in one section
of a building, campus, LAN (WAN if you are daring) and the server
could be anywhere, not tied by 15 or 30 foot USB cables.  Then if you
are doing new wiring, you can run the shortest distance from the
location of the SIP FXS device to the phones.

You can have redundant, self healing links as well as link aggregation.

I cannot see how TDMoE or USB come anywhere close to this flexibility
and certainly don't see it being a fit for high port densities like
discussed.

I see TDM0E as something that a tech guy thought would be cool (and it
is but not very practical) and a USB device something suited for the
SoHo (but missing the scalability, redundancy, and flexibility that IP
gives.)

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread Drew Gibson
Chris Bagnall wrote:
 Greetings list,

 I've been asked to provide a system for 200 extensions, most of which will be 
 existing analogue POTS handsets, not IP handsets. I've not really had any 
 experience with large channel banks in the past (since most of our 
 deployments are strictly IP-only to the desk), so I'm at a loss as to which 
 ones are worth looking at.

 If anyone's had experience using channel banks on reasonably sizeable 
 installs I'd be interested to hear what device(s) you used, how simple or 
 complex they were to configure, and whether there'd be any issues attaching 
 multiple units to a single server.

 This install would be in the UK, so we do need to factor in the different 
 conditions expected by UK POTS handsets (line impedance, etc.). Are most 
 channel banks country-neutral, or do specific models need to be purchased for 
 different line conditions in each country?

 Thanks in advance.

 Regards,

 Chris
   

www.citel.com

I used them a few years back in a pilot install with legacy Nortel 
phones and it worked well. I gather they have grown tremendously from 
there. I'm in North America, don't know how well they support UK stuff.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 03:21:47PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote:
 I've been asked to provide a system for 200 extensions, most of which
 will be existing analogue POTS handsets, not IP handsets. I've not
 really had any experience with large channel banks in the past (since
 most of our deployments are strictly IP-only to the desk), so I'm at a
 loss as to which ones are worth looking at.

 If anyone's had experience using channel banks on reasonably sizeable
 installs I'd be interested to hear what device(s) you used, how simple
 or complex they were to configure, and whether there'd be any issues
 attaching multiple units to a single server.

 This install would be in the UK, so we do need to factor in the
 different conditions expected by UK POTS handsets (line impedance,
 etc.). Are most channel banks country-neutral, or do specific models
 need to be purchased for different line conditions in each country?

You might want to check the archives from, I think, early '07; I was
looking into doing a hotel/motel system for a client, and asked almost
exactly this question.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 10:38:36AM -0500, Drew Gibson wrote:
 www.citel.com
 
 I used them a few years back in a pilot install with legacy Nortel 
 phones and it worked well. I gather they have grown tremendously from 
 there. I'm in North America, don't know how well they support UK stuff.

Citel are, are they not, the company that specializes in FXS channel
banks specific to legacy digital phones?  Do they do analog-POTS banks
as well?

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Totaro
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 10:38:36AM -0500, Drew Gibson wrote:
   www.citel.com
  
   I used them a few years back in a pilot install with legacy Nortel
   phones and it worked well. I gather they have grown tremendously from
   there. I'm in North America, don't know how well they support UK stuff.

  Citel are, are they not, the company that specializes in FXS channel
  banks specific to legacy digital phones?  Do they do analog-POTS banks
  as well?


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Citel is the worst product I have ever dealt with, worse than
Grandstream but for different reasons.

Anyways, for smaller port density I love the Quintum Tenor AX 24 port
FXS,  They may make a 48, I am not sure.  This is a SIP connection,
and there are probably a multitude of other products that do the same,
Quintum blew me away with the sheer amount of options and
configuration (that you will probably never use).

I have heard people suggest MaxTNT for high port densities, which
looks great, I just have no experience or need for such a device yet.

The other option is a channel bank that connects via T1 or I guess E1
(although I have never seen an E1 30 port channel bank, I am in the US
so it is not surprising)

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)
I have been told to use Rhino Channel Bank but I am yet to set it up and
I appreciate if someone can show me some doco of using Rhino on an E1/T1
with TE410.

Thanks.

 I've been asked to provide a system for 200 extensions, most of which
will
 be existing analogue POTS handsets, not IP handsets. I've not really
had
 any experience with large channel banks in the past (since most of our
 deployments are strictly IP-only to the desk), so I'm at a loss as to
 which ones are worth looking at.
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread James Finstrom
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What kind of information are you looking for? configuration or? If you
look in our manuals our cards and the Digium cards configure the same
in zaptel and zapata.

Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
 I have been told to use Rhino Channel Bank but I am yet to set it
 up and I appreciate if someone can show me some doco of using Rhino
 on an E1/T1 with TE410.

 Thanks.

 I've been asked to provide a system for 200 extensions, most of
 which
 will
 be existing analogue POTS handsets, not IP handsets. I've not
 really
 had
 any experience with large channel banks in the past (since most
 of our deployments are strictly IP-only to the desk), so I'm at a
 loss as to which ones are worth looking at.


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread Gordon Henderson

 I've been asked to provide a system for 200 extensions, most of which will
 be existing analogue POTS handsets, not IP handsets. I've not really had
 any experience with large channel banks in the past (since most of our
 deployments are strictly IP-only to the desk), so I'm at a loss as to
 which ones are worth looking at.

I know I've missed the original message in this thread, so it'll be a bit 
out of place, but what about the Xorcom Channel banks?

e.g.:

   http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html

Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs and I'm not 
sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?

However, even with E1 units, you're still looking at 7 E1 ports... (2 quad 
cards + the external channel bank)

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel banks

2008-03-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 11:50:43PM +, Gordon Henderson wrote:
 
  I've been asked to provide a system for 200 extensions, most of which will
  be existing analogue POTS handsets, not IP handsets. I've not really had
  any experience with large channel banks in the past (since most of our
  deployments are strictly IP-only to the desk), so I'm at a loss as to
  which ones are worth looking at.
 
 I know I've missed the original message in this thread, so it'll be a bit 
 out of place, but what about the Xorcom Channel banks?
 
 e.g.:
 
http://www.voipon.co.uk/xorcom-astribank32-32-fxs-channel-bank-p-530.html
 
 Trouble is, you'll need 7 32-port units to cover your needs and I'm not 
 sure if USB2 is up to driving that many ... Tzafrir?

One USB connector can take a number close to that easily. But even if
USB were the bottleneck, you would just add another USB controller in the form 
of 
PCI card and get extra bandwidth.

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS damaged at TDM22B

2008-01-21 Thread Zoa

I'd say check with Digium, maybe it's supposed to not break (i 
personally don't think it would break it, i'd have noticed it already 
:)  if you plug it to the wrong thing and you will get a replacement for 
free.

Zoa

bilal ghayyad wrote:
 Hi All;

 If one of my FXS port damaged at TDM22B because we
 connected the Telephone Line cable to the FXS port
 while it should be connected to the FXO port, then can
 I order S110M FXS Module and fix it instead of the
 damaged FXS? (This if we assume my problem that really
 the FXS port damaged).

 Rregards
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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS damaged at TDM22B

2008-01-21 Thread Matt Riddell
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Zoa wrote:
 I'd say check with Digium, maybe it's supposed to not break (i 
 personally don't think it would break it, i'd have noticed it already 
 :)  if you plug it to the wrong thing and you will get a replacement for 
 free.

I thought on the older TDM400P cards that the voltage coming in from a
ring would destroy an FXS module?

We have a strange situation here in New Zealand where you have analogue
DDI numbers.

Basically you provide a dialtone to the exchange, the exchange provides
a dialtone to you, and if a normal call comes in it rings you as normal.

If a DDI call comes in, it seizes the line, then dials the extension
(last four digits of the DDI).

I was running a site off a GXW4008 gateway, but it had problems (I'm
assuming with the bidirectional ringer voltages).

We changed them over to BRI :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel bank

2007-06-28 Thread Jerry Jones

On Jun 28, 2007, at 8:00 AM, pixiesfr wrote:

 hello,

 We looking for a channel bank to connect 120 analogs phones, in SIP to
 an Asterisk ..

 Did someone have some product in mind.

A channel bank must connect via a T1 by definition, which would then  
give you 24 phone lines per T1. This would require 5 T1 connected to  
your asterisk server. OK 4 if E1 as it probably is in your case.

However with your requirement for SIP you are looking for a gateway  
to connect your phones. Most are 24 port, though some are 48 port.  
Names to look at would be Carrier Access, Audiocodes, Vega etc.

I do like the Vega unit except for their support - or lack thereof -  
here in the US. They do have both 24 and 48 port units.

Your other option would be to do GR303 which would allow you to hang  
many lines off a few T1/E1 circuits, except it is definately not SIP.  
If phones are not at location of your asterisk server and you really  
want to do sip, it may be simpler for this many phones to install an  
additional asterisk server at the remote location and install a quad  
port T1/E1 card and hang channel banks off it.

Good Luck

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS channel bank

2007-06-28 Thread Alex Balashov
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007, Jerry Jones wrote:

 Your other option would be to do GR303 which would allow you to hang 
 many lines off a few T1/E1 circuits, except it is definately not SIP.

   Well, and it's probably worth pointing out that if you wanted to go the
GR.303 route, the devices on both ends -- and especially the service 
provider side -- is unlikely to be so inexpensive and simple as a mere
Asterisk server.

   You'd need some sort of DLC capable of doing GR.303, and, well, I don't 
know what supports GR.303 subscriber interfaces on the service side other 
than a bona fide Class 5 switch of some sort.  :-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-23 Thread Rob Schall
We wanted a cheap last resort fail-over. A few really cheap pots lines
are easy to run buy, as we can get them for a really low cost. My
understanding with DIDs (and its limited), is they have to belong to a
PRI. The only way that is cheaper than a few pots lines is if you needed
8 or more pots lines. Then the line fees balance out.

I was hoping for a solution more along the lines of Use this x
variable that contains what ZAP channel it came in on, then I can
program that one to point to a particular person.

Thanks,
Rob

Sean M. Pappalardo wrote:


 Rob Schall wrote:
 Normally I just use pri's with our asterisk systems, but a request came
 in to add some normal pots lines to the setup. We have 3 lines, and they
 run into the fxs ports. They hit the dialplan just fine, and they always
 dial the s extension. However, my question would be... Is there a way
 to determine what number was dialed and have it forward to a specific
 phone?

 Sure, it's called a DID trunk. It's basically just a regular analog
 phone line but the CO switch sends down the digits dialed in one of a
 few ways: Dial pulse (DP), Multi-freq (MF), Dual-tone multi-frequency
 (DTMF). They are usually inbound-only, but some CO's can add outbound
 service too if needed. Call your phone service provider's business
 office and ask about analog DID lines/trunks. They should be around
 $30/mo for the line and $1-2/mo for each number. Ask them what type of
 signaling they use then you'll need to configure your zapata.conf to
 match. After that, you can then start routing in the dialplan based on
 the number called. For extra fun, have the CO set them up in a hunt
 group to avoid busy signals.

 Take a look at: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+DID

 (BTW, Why are you adding analog lines if you're already big enough for
 a PRI? Isn't it less expensive to just add a couple more DID numbers
 to the PRI?)

 Sean

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RE: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-23 Thread Don Pobanz
 Rob  Schall wrote: 
 My understanding with DIDs (and its limited), is they have 
 to belong to a PRI. 

DID can be delivered over a PRI, a channelized T1 or over analog trunks.

If you use the analog route method, you can get any number of trunks. 

 The only way that is cheaper than a few pots lines is if 
 you needed 8 or more pots lines. Then the line fees balance out.
 
 I was hoping for a solution more along the lines of Use this x
 variable that contains what ZAP channel it came in on, then I can
 program that one to point to a particular person.

If you are only really interested in distinguishing which pots line the
call came in on and want to make decisions based on that then you will
just put each line in a different context in zapata.conf. Then your dial
plan will dial phone1 for context1, phone2 for context2 and so on. 

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-23 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo



Alex Balashov wrote:
Sure, it's called a DID trunk. It's basically just a regular analog 
phone line but the CO switch sends down the digits dialed in one of a 



  Sean, I am curious--what do these look like these days?  Are they
ordinary T1s?  CAS/robbed-bit?  Do these just use the signaling portions
associated with each channel to deliver the winks, and do the channels
correspond to the appropriate timeslots on the voice trunk?  How does
this work?


I'm not sure of the technical details as I don't have one installed yet, 
but from my discussions with the phone companies and some phone 
installers I know, these are just your average analog tip/ring lines. 
They just have some extra signaling to get the digits to you. Give a 
call to your phone service provider and ask to speak with a technical group.


Sean

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RE: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-23 Thread Jeremy Mann
Here's a silly question, if these are standard POTS you obviously know which 
number corresponds to which line, being the case couldn't you tell that ZAP/1 
is POTS 555-1234, ZAP/2 is POTS 555-1235, etc etc?

I'm assuming you're trying to identify the inbound number from the telco that 
was dialed.  Unless you have the lines in a hunt group at the telco, but then 
you're implying you don't care which number was dialed, you just want failover 
at the telco.



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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

We wanted a cheap last resort fail-over. A few really cheap pots lines
are easy to run buy, as we can get them for a really low cost. My
understanding with DIDs (and its limited), is they have to belong to a
PRI. The only way that is cheaper than a few pots lines is if you needed
8 or more pots lines. Then the line fees balance out.

I was hoping for a solution more along the lines of Use this x
variable that contains what ZAP channel it came in on, then I can
program that one to point to a particular person.

Thanks,
Rob

Sean M. Pappalardo wrote:


 Rob Schall wrote:
 Normally I just use pri's with our asterisk systems, but a request came
 in to add some normal pots lines to the setup. We have 3 lines, and they
 run into the fxs ports. They hit the dialplan just fine, and they always
 dial the s extension. However, my question would be... Is there a way
 to determine what number was dialed and have it forward to a specific
 phone?

 Sure, it's called a DID trunk. It's basically just a regular analog
 phone line but the CO switch sends down the digits dialed in one of a
 few ways: Dial pulse (DP), Multi-freq (MF), Dual-tone multi-frequency
 (DTMF). They are usually inbound-only, but some CO's can add outbound
 service too if needed. Call your phone service provider's business
 office and ask about analog DID lines/trunks. They should be around
 $30/mo for the line and $1-2/mo for each number. Ask them what type of
 signaling they use then you'll need to configure your zapata.conf to
 match. After that, you can then start routing in the dialplan based on
 the number called. For extra fun, have the CO set them up in a hunt
 group to avoid busy signals.

 Take a look at: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+DID

 (BTW, Why are you adding analog lines if you're already big enough for
 a PRI? Isn't it less expensive to just add a couple more DID numbers
 to the PRI?)

 Sean

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-23 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo



Rob Schall wrote:

understanding with DIDs (and its limited), is they have to belong to a
PRI. The only way that is cheaper than a few pots lines is if you needed


This is not true, since analog DID trunks do exist.


I was hoping for a solution more along the lines of Use this x
variable that contains what ZAP channel it came in on, then I can
program that one to point to a particular person.


Actually with DID, you'd just program the dialplan the same as for a 
PRI, since the variables for DID should be the same regardless of which 
channel type/technology the call comes in on. (You wouldn't tie Zap FXO 
channels directly to extensions unless using non-DID POTS lines where 
each has only one number, which doesn't sound like what you are wanting 
to do.)


Sean

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-23 Thread Alex Balashov

On Wed, 23 May 2007, Sean M. Pappalardo said something to this effect:

Give a call to your phone service provider and ask to speak with a 
technical group.


  I do not share your optimism about the revelation this would entail.  :-)

  But thank you!

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-23 Thread Rob Schall
Jeremy,

This is the best thing i was able to come up with.

All incoming pots lines go to the zapchans context

[zapchans]
exten = 3,1,Dial(ZAP/1-1);ZAP3
exten = 3,2,Hangup()
exten = 4,1,Dial(ZAP/2-1);ZAP4
exten = 4,2,Hangup()

exten = s,1,Answer()
exten = s,2,Goto(${CHANNEL:4:1},1)
exten = s,3,Hangup()

Each one could have its own context, but I wanted to keep it all in one
place and make it easy for our phone guys to handle (they aren't linux
or asterisk saavy).

The only problem I've found so far, is when you dial in from a pots
line, the call connects fine, but they won't hang each other up. The
console shows the hangup command running, but neither side of the call
will hangup when the opposite side hangs their line up. Not sure if I
just missed a setting or what.


Jeremy Mann wrote:
 Here's a silly question, if these are standard POTS you obviously know which 
 number corresponds to which line, being the case couldn't you tell that ZAP/1 
 is POTS 555-1234, ZAP/2 is POTS 555-1235, etc etc?

 I'm assuming you're trying to identify the inbound number from the telco that 
 was dialed.  Unless you have the lines in a hunt group at the telco, but then 
 you're implying you don't care which number was dialed, you just want 
 failover at the telco.



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 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:19 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

 We wanted a cheap last resort fail-over. A few really cheap pots lines
 are easy to run buy, as we can get them for a really low cost. My
 understanding with DIDs (and its limited), is they have to belong to a
 PRI. The only way that is cheaper than a few pots lines is if you needed
 8 or more pots lines. Then the line fees balance out.

 I was hoping for a solution more along the lines of Use this x
 variable that contains what ZAP channel it came in on, then I can
 program that one to point to a particular person.

 Thanks,
 Rob

 Sean M. Pappalardo wrote:
   
 Rob Schall wrote:
 
 Normally I just use pri's with our asterisk systems, but a request came
 in to add some normal pots lines to the setup. We have 3 lines, and they
 run into the fxs ports. They hit the dialplan just fine, and they always
 dial the s extension. However, my question would be... Is there a way
 to determine what number was dialed and have it forward to a specific
 phone?
   
 Sure, it's called a DID trunk. It's basically just a regular analog
 phone line but the CO switch sends down the digits dialed in one of a
 few ways: Dial pulse (DP), Multi-freq (MF), Dual-tone multi-frequency
 (DTMF). They are usually inbound-only, but some CO's can add outbound
 service too if needed. Call your phone service provider's business
 office and ask about analog DID lines/trunks. They should be around
 $30/mo for the line and $1-2/mo for each number. Ask them what type of
 signaling they use then you'll need to configure your zapata.conf to
 match. After that, you can then start routing in the dialplan based on
 the number called. For extra fun, have the CO set them up in a hunt
 group to avoid busy signals.

 Take a look at: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+DID

 (BTW, Why are you adding analog lines if you're already big enough for
 a PRI? Isn't it less expensive to just add a couple more DID numbers
 to the PRI?)

 Sean

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-22 Thread Alex Balashov

On Tue, 22 May 2007, Sean M. Pappalardo said something to this effect:

Sure, it's called a DID trunk. It's basically just a regular analog phone 
line but the CO switch sends down the digits dialed in one of a few ways: 
Dial pulse (DP), Multi-freq (MF), Dual-tone multi-frequency (DTMF). They 
are usually inbound-only, but some CO's can add outbound service too if 
needed.


  Sean, I am curious--what do these look like these days?  Are they
ordinary T1s?  CAS/robbed-bit?  Do these just use the signaling portions
associated with each channel to deliver the winks, and do the channels
correspond to the appropriate timeslots on the voice trunk?  How does
this work?

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS + Pots Extensions Help

2007-05-22 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo



Rob Schall wrote:

Normally I just use pri's with our asterisk systems, but a request came
in to add some normal pots lines to the setup. We have 3 lines, and they
run into the fxs ports. They hit the dialplan just fine, and they always
dial the s extension. However, my question would be... Is there a way
to determine what number was dialed and have it forward to a specific
phone?


Sure, it's called a DID trunk. It's basically just a regular analog 
phone line but the CO switch sends down the digits dialed in one of a 
few ways: Dial pulse (DP), Multi-freq (MF), Dual-tone multi-frequency 
(DTMF). They are usually inbound-only, but some CO's can add outbound 
service too if needed. Call your phone service provider's business 
office and ask about analog DID lines/trunks. They should be around 
$30/mo for the line and $1-2/mo for each number. Ask them what type of 
signaling they use then you'll need to configure your zapata.conf to 
match. After that, you can then start routing in the dialplan based on 
the number called. For extra fun, have the CO set them up in a hunt 
group to avoid busy signals.


Take a look at: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+tips+DID

(BTW, Why are you adding analog lines if you're already big enough for a 
PRI? Isn't it less expensive to just add a couple more DID numbers to 
the PRI?)


Sean

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS gateway/Channel Bank

2006-08-07 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Adtran TA750 or TA850

Roger Workman wrote:

Can someone recommend a good FXS gateway/Channel bank that will intergrate 
smoothly with *  I need to port over 158 analog lines





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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS adapters and Polycom phones

2006-07-22 Thread Tele Cost Price Reducer
hi,
i would prefer a Mediant 1000 with 12 ports FXS of Audiocodes to do the Job.

further info available upon request,

Mickey
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Hi,

I`m looking for a SIP-PSTN adapter, basically to switch a customer from a cheap PBX to mine, but resuing their own Norstar PSTN phones. They have 10phones. From a price point of view, it seems that 10 individual GrandStream SIP adapters is the best way to go, but it seems so inelegant to me.


What is recommended ?

Second question: I have a GrandStream GXP-2000, that despite what everybody says I love. I am still looking for a replacement, if only because it doesn`t look as good and it does have a few quirks. I was looking at Polycoms, but some questions are unanswered by looking at their datasheet.

- Does the Polycom 501 have an integrated router (like the GXP-2000, latest firmware, does)
- Can you have more than one SIP/account on the phone, each ringing in a way that lets the user know which account is ringing? (GXP2000 does it by making it possible to have each line linked to a separate SIP account)


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS adapters and Polycom phones

2006-07-13 Thread Jamin W. Collins

Mike wrote:
I`m looking for a SIP-PSTN adapter, basically to switch a customer 
from a cheap PBX to mine, but resuing their own Norstar PSTN phones.  
They have 10 phones.  From a price point of view, it seems that 10 
individual GrandStream SIP adapters is the best way to go, but it 
seems so inelegant to me.
 
What is recommended ?   


Not sure about the others, but I've had decent experiences with the 
Linksys PAP2 series, and they aren't that expensive.


Second question: I have a GrandStream GXP-2000, that despite what 
everybody says I love.  I am still looking for a replacement, if only 
because it doesn`t look as good and it does have a few quirks.  I was 
looking at Polycoms, but some questions are unanswered by looking at 
their datasheet.
- Does the Polycom 501 have an integrated router (like the GXP-2000, 
latest firmware, does)


Not entirely sure what you're asking here.  If you're wondering if it 
has a two NIC interfaces (a pass-through for the PC) then yes.


- Can you have more than one SIP/account on the phone, each ringing in 
a way that lets the user know which account is ringing? (GXP2000 does 
it by making it possible to have each line linked to a separate SIP 
account)


The 501 is capable of having 3 different line appearances, each of which 
can have a primary and secondary server configured for them.


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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS: No ringtone

2006-07-10 Thread Martin Joseph


On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:23 AM, yusuf wrote:


Hi all,

I am running Asterisk 1.2.7.1, with a Sangoma A101 card in it.  I also 
have 2 Digium FXO cards, and I have premicells connected to the FXO's 
.  Calls come in off the Sangoma E1 cards, from a Philips PABX.  The 
problem I have is that the user, when he dials from his desk phone, 
does not get any ringtone when he dials  a cell phone, which goes over 
the premicells.  So the cell phone will ring, but the user wont hear 
anything until the cell perosn answers, then everything's fine.  But 
when I try to debug it, I used a sip phone to dial a cell number, that 
you get ringtone.


Yet other calls from the PBX, non cell calls, have ringtone.  So when 
a call uses the E1 anf FXO, I get no ringtone.


Has anyone seen this before

Oh yeah, what you are talking about is ring back, not ringtone.  I 
think the r option in the asterisk dial command might help you as that 
forces ringback.


Marty

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Re: [asterisk-users] FXS: No ringtone

2006-07-10 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Martin Joseph wrote:


On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:23 AM, yusuf wrote:


Hi all,

I am running Asterisk 1.2.7.1, with a Sangoma A101 card in it.  I also 
have 2 Digium FXO cards, and I have premicells connected to the FXO's 
.  Calls come in off the Sangoma E1 cards, from a Philips PABX.  The 
problem I have is that the user, when he dials from his desk phone, 
does not get any ringtone when he dials  a cell phone, which goes over 
the premicells.  So the cell phone will ring, but the user wont hear 
anything until the cell perosn answers, then everything's fine.  But 
when I try to debug it, I used a sip phone to dial a cell number, that 
you get ringtone.


Yet other calls from the PBX, non cell calls, have ringtone.  So when 
a call uses the E1 anf FXO, I get no ringtone.


Has anyone seen this before

Oh yeah, what you are talking about is ring back, not ringtone.  I think 
the r option in the asterisk dial command might help you as that forces 
ringback.


The r option seldom fixes ringback issues.

Make sure you have /etc/asterisk/indications.conf setup.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXS Caller ID revisted

2006-05-23 Thread Cosmin Prund
Are you doing something funny with the CID on it's way to the phone? 
I've got a somewhat similar problem with an Aastra IP phone (yes, I did 
say IP): it would NOT ring if the caller id started with an #. Maybe 
your Aastra PSTN phone got some of the same (buggy?) handling of CID's?


Dan Elder wrote:

Hi All, posted last week but didn't get any responses. I'm trying to figure
out why some of our analog phones aren't showing CID when hooked up to
asterisk. To recap, I have an Aastra Powertouch 350, which shows caller ID
fine when connected to the PSTN, but when hooked up to asterisk, CID does
not show. I've hooked up another phone to the same * port that the Aastra
phone is on,  it DOES show CID, so I'm assuming my settings  such are at
least partially correct, can anyone point me to some options or areas I can
look to troubleshoot this issue? Been pulling my hair out on this for days 
just can't seem to get it sorted.

I'm using asterisk 1.2.0 with a Carrier Access ABII channel bank. When
another CID capable phone is hooke up to the same port, CID works fine, the
Aastra phone is however unable to read the incoming CID from * apparently.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated, I've searched the Wiki  the CID
faq's to no avail.

Thanks in advance

Dan

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Re: RE : [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-25 Thread Tele Cost Price Reducer
as of now, 8 ports for 8 phones.
there will be soon a 16 ports version (within April)
On 3/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How many phones lines ?


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Objet: [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks


Is anyone out there using FXS channel banks to connect analog phones to Asterisk? If so do you have brand recommendations?



Thanks

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-25 Thread Curt Shaffer
Title: Message








As of now we are probably looking in the
36 range. We would like to utilize this as a first step to migrating to a VoIP
system.











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How many phones lines ?





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Is anyone out there using FXS channel banks to connect
analog phones to Asterisk? If so do you have brand recommendations?





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-25 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
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Curt Shaffer wrote:

  
  

  
  

  
  
  As of now we
are probably looking in the
36 range. We would like to utilize this as a first step to migrating to
a VoIP
system.
  
  
  
  
  
  

To save cost. I would buy a couple of used Adtran 750's, they are cheap
and readily available for under $500 with FXS cards. Combined with a
Dual T1 card, you have an inexpensive solution, and when you go SIP,
you can sell the channel banks for what you paid for them.

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RE : [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-25 Thread f6hqz-m


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RE : RE : [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-25 Thread f6hqz-m
2 x TDM2460E (with hardware echocan module) or TDM2460B (wo/echocan) = 48
phones lines, no T1 cards, no channel banks level adjustments troubles,
direct Zap channels and simple switching.

Probably the best choice and price  :-)

Best Regards,
Francois BERGERET,
France.

A very happy TDM2400 user  ;-)

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RE: RE : RE : [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-25 Thread Steve Totaro


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 2 x TDM2460E (with hardware echocan module) or TDM2460B (wo/echocan) =
48
 phones lines, no T1 cards, no channel banks level adjustments
troubles,
 direct Zap channels and simple switching.
 
 Probably the best choice and price  :-)
 
 Best Regards,
 Francois BERGERET,
 France.
 
 A very happy TDM2400 user  ;-)
 

I love Quintum TenorAX boxes.  You can put the box anywhere and point
back to your Asterisk box.  It has so many features it is really an
amazing box and support is excellent.

Thanks,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-24 Thread Tele Cost Price Reducer
i would suggest Astribank-8 of XorCom. it is a dedicated Asterisk compliant solution.
you can look at : www.xorcom.com.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

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Tele Cost Price Reducer wrote:

  i would suggest Astribank-8 of XorCom. it is a dedicated
Asterisk compliant solution.
  you can look at : www.xorcom.com.
  
  

Looks interesting, shame they don't have a FXO version.

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RE : [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-24 Thread f6hqz-m
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How 
many phones lines ?

  
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  channel banks
  
  Is anyone out there using FXS 
  channel banks to connect analog phones to Asterisk? If so do you have brand 
  recommendations?
  
  
  Thanks
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-23 Thread C F
Carrier Access Adit 600

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 Is anyone out there using FXS channel banks to connect analog phones to
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXS channel banks

2006-03-23 Thread Angelito Manansala
rhino channel bankOn 3/23/06, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] FXS with v.90 modem support?

2006-02-07 Thread Dustin Wenz
Thanks for the info! Fortunately, we have something closer to the  
latter configuration you described. The PSTN goes directly into an  
MX250 as a SIP gateway, and our Asterisk server connects to that. The  
MX has a few FXO ports, but we don't want to use them. It doesn't  
seem very clean to have an IP phone system but yet still needing to  
run analog lines throughout the building. Although, the Atlas 550  
card would be nice if our Asterisk box were a little closer to where  
the analog devices are (and if they have OS X/PPC drivers for it).


Has anyone ever used the Vega 50? That seems the most promising  
solution so far.


- .Dustin

On Feb 6, 2006, at 6:21 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:


Dustin Wenz wrote:

I have a couple of devices that need an analog modem to  
communicate  outside of our Asterisk system. Most FXS gateways  
don't seem to  support this... I have a stack of Sipura 2002's  
that are, AFAIK,  worthless for this purpose.


I've heard that Digium's IAXy FXS will work with modems, but I  
can't  find any reference to that in their documentation. There is  
also the  VegaStream Vega 50 that claims to support v.90 on 8 FXS  
ports per  unit. Does anyone have experience with these devices,  
or can  recommend anything else?


Then important things here are that you must only digitise once,  
and that the path must be clean and free of timing slips. Things like


modem - FXS - asterisk - FXO - PSTN

will not work. The signal is digitised, returned to analogue, then  
the PSTN will digitise it again. In general VoIP boxes of any kind  
will not work, as they do not guarantee a clean path. What should  
work is


modem - FXS - asterisk - E1 or t1 - PSTN

However, a lot of people have problems getting even this  
configuration to give clean enough results for V.90 to work.


Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] FXS with v.90 modem support?

2006-02-06 Thread Colin Anderson
Little expensive, but Adtran Atlas 550 + Octal analog card works fine. $5k. 

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From: Dustin Wenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:21 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FXS with v.90 modem support?


I have a couple of devices that need an analog modem to communicate  
outside of our Asterisk system. Most FXS gateways don't seem to  
support this... I have a stack of Sipura 2002's that are, AFAIK,  
worthless for this purpose.

I've heard that Digium's IAXy FXS will work with modems, but I can't  
find any reference to that in their documentation. There is also the  
VegaStream Vega 50 that claims to support v.90 on 8 FXS ports per  
unit. Does anyone have experience with these devices, or can  
recommend anything else?

- .Dustin Wenz
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