Re: crome/cromium: nvda keeps repeating new messages
Re: crome/cromium: nvda keeps repeating new messages Hey, guys, is it possible no one of you is experiencing the same, or at least a similar problem to this? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/587136/#p587136 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
crome/cromium: nvda keeps repeating new messages
crome/cromium: nvda keeps repeating new messages Hello.It is starting to annoy me how NVDA, as I noted in the title, keeps repeating new messages, (for example in Facebook when chatting with a friend), multiple times in a row.Sometimes only 2 times, but mostly 3, 4, or even 5 times in a row, every single incoming new message.(unless I manually stop it by pressing a key)This is happening only in chrome and chromium, other browsers like firefox have no such issue, but I would like to preserve chrome as my primary browser, so...do you know the reason of this, and hopefully a solution for it please?(using a desktop PC with windows 10) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/585242/#p585242 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Ok guys, let me check if I am doing this right:Since as you say, bluestacks is not accessible anymore, I downloaded that memuplay emulator you suggested.I also downloaded 2 talkback, and 2 game apps to test it with.Now, I should install the emulator 1st, start it, and while it is running, I should...run the talkback apps 1st, then the 2 game apps?Is this how it's supposed to work? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/582545/#p582545 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Meetbag: ok, thanks, and can you name such an android emulator please?Is the above mentioned memuplay one of those?And will I need talkback to it too, or it has it initially integrated into the emulator already?Or should I just download/install this talkback from somewhere? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573350/#p573350 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Meetbag: ok, thanks, and can you name such an android emulator please?Is the above mentioned memuplay one of those?And will I need talkback to it too, or it has it initially integrated in the emulator already?Or should I just download/install this talkback from somewhere? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573350/#p573350 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Meetbag: ok, thanks, and can you name such an android emulator please?Is the above mentioned memuplay one of those? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573350/#p573350 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Sorry guys, maybe I failed to express myself accurately enough:So let's ignore games and gaming totally, I am searching for an android emulator I can universally work with the best, aka use with NVDA screen reader without any more serious problems or issues.Those apps I plan to run with it will, I am totally sure, work on it just fine.What I actually seek now is the most NVDA-friendly android emulator you know of. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573302/#p573302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Sorry guys, maybe I failed to express myself accurately enough:So let's ignore games and gaming totally, I am searching for an android emulator I can universally work with the best, aka use with NVDA screen reader without any more serious problems or issues.Those apps I plan to run with it will, I am totally sure, work on it just fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573302/#p573302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Sorry guys, maybe I failed to express myself accurately enough:So let's ignore games and gaming totally, I am searching for an android emulator I can universally work with the best, aka use with screen reader without any more serious problems or issues.Those apps I plan to run with it will, I am totally sure, work on it just fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573302/#p573302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Wait, is that virtual machine another emulator I can try out?Actually my primary purpose with the emulator is not gaming, so for those apps I plan to run with it, virtual machine, if it is another android emulator, may still function right...So please instruct me where to download this virtual machine from, how to install and run it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573298/#p573298 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Ok, with sighted help I managed to download and install the apps I planned, but they turned out to be just as totally unaccessible to me as the emulator itself.The apps themselves work perfectly on Bluestacks, but only for sighted ones, I cannot even perform a single action with them, just like how I couldn't with Bluestacks either.So now I suggest we try 2 things:1.If Bluestacks is accessible for you others with nvda and windows 10, (on desktop PC), let's try to determine, why it is totally unaccessible to me?2.If it became unaccessible to you others too, please suggest me some different, guaranteed accessible android emulator instead. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/573161/#p573161 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Yeah, that would be nice, if I could access the store from Bluestacks, if I could access anything in it, but nothing seems to work or react, not even clicking with mouse button on it, including the app store option, which I also heard and found with mouse, and tried to access.Actually now I managed to access the settings, but only with the keyboard shortcut alt+shift+i, and haven't found any device related option there.And I still fail to access the app store option as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572912/#p572912 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Yeah, that would be nice, if I could access the store from Bluestacks, if I could access anything in it, but nothing seems to work or react, not even clicking with mouse button on it, including the app store option, which I also heard and, found with mouse, and tried to access. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572912/#p572912 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? No, whenever I visit the store, regardless if I start my browser or Bluestacks 1st, it keeps saying how I have no device added, so now I must manually add some virtual device somehow it seems...Or is there a file in the Bluestacks directory for that?As if I remember I managed to do this in the past, and did add some Samsung or Nokia type virtual smart phone, but I cannot remember how I did it, was quite a long time ago...Edit:I managed to google out, how I am supposed to find the settings, and there some device profile option, there I can add a virtual device, the only problem is Bluestacks doesn't seem to be NVDA accessible at all, after it loads in, all I can do is trying to exit it with alt+f4, that is the only case I can hear the options "close" or "return" to Bluestacks, closing it won't work at all btw, I have to restart my whole system in order to get rid of the running emulator.Hell, I even tried to blindly move my mouse and click on some options I can hear, but even then they simply won't open, at all.I remember this was the case earlier too, (although I somehow managed to add a virtual device back then), so I actually wonder why you guys claim Bluestacks to be screen reader, especially NVDA accessible.Can it be my Windows 10 system causing this accessibility problem? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572888/#p572888 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? No, whenever I visit the store, regardless if I start my browser or Bluestacks 1st, it keeps saying how I have no device added, so now I must manually add some virtual device somehow it seems...Or is there a file in the Bluestacks directory for that?As if I remember I managed to do this in the past, and did add some Samsung or Nokia type virtual smart phone, but I cannot remember how I did it, was quite a long time ago...Edit:I managed to google out, how I am supposed to find the settings, and there some device profile option, there I can add a virtual device, the only problem is Bluestacks doesn't to seem to be NVDA accessible, after it loads in, all I can do is trying to exit it with alt+f4, that is the only case I can hear the options "close" or "return" to Bluestacks, closing it won't work at all btw, I have to restart my whole system in order to get rid of the running emulator.Hell, I even tried to blindly move my mouse and click on some options I can hear, but even then they simply won't open, at all.I remember this was the case earlier too, (although I somehow managed to add a virtual device back then), so I actually wonder why you guys claim Bluestacks to be screen reader, especially NVDA accessible.Can it be my Windows 10 system causing this accessibility problem? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572888/#p572888 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? No, whenever I visit the store, regardless if I start my browser or Bluestacks 1st, it keeps saying how I have no device added, so now I must manually add some virtual device somehow it seems...Or is there a file in the Bluestacks directory for that?As if I remember I managed to do this in the past, and did add some Samsung or Nokia type virtual smart phone, but I cannot remember how I did it, was quite a long time ago... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572888/#p572888 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a universal android emulator for PC?
Re: a universal android emulator for PC? Ok, thanks, I do have Bluestacks installed on my computer, tried to play a game with it before, but only partially succeeded at it.But that is irrelevant now, it still may serve well for my purpose this time, even without those adjustments you mentioned, but please instruct me how to use it right:Namely, there is a certain application, (app), I wish to download and install with it.However, whenever I open the Google store to download it from, (it is free), it says I have no devices, so my download gets prevented.This happens even when I run and keep Bluestacks in the background, while as far I know it should add a virtual mobile device, but it isn't happening.So please explain to me how to actually use that emulator. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572854/#p572854 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
a universal android emulator for PC?
a universal android emulator for PC? Hello, please recommend me the best, most reliable, in my case the most screen reader accessible, easiest to use android emulator for PC.I have a desktop PC with Windows 10 operating system, and am using the NVDA screen reader with it.Since I have as little as no experience with android emulators, if necessary, please also instruct me how to install, configure, and use the suggested emulator, or link me to its instructions.(where I can read its whole setup process)Please also link me to its download page too.Note:I am not trying/aiming to play any specific game or games with it, but am searching for the universally best working android emulator for my PC. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572515/#p572515 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An accessable anti-virus software
Re: An accessable anti-virus software Errr...just to correct myself: Normally I meant both antivirus AND firewall software, after all no use of an accessable antivirus if I still cannot access, and work with the firewall settings. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446174/#p446174 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
An accessable anti-virus software
An accessable anti-virus software Hello.I am getting sick of all the anti-virus software I am, and was using to be totally unaccessable for screen reader usage, and always having to ask for either sighted, or remote help to perform any operations with them.Please guys, can you recommend an anti-virus program, which I won't have any problems accessing and working with?I have a desktop PC, with Windows 10 operating system, and am using NVDA screen reader.Is it possible there exists no NVDA-accessable anti-virus software at all? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/446000/#p446000 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Discord: How to ignore a user?
Re: Discord: How to ignore a user? Oh sorry, I should have told I use a desktop PC, Windows 10, and NVDA screen reader.And also sorry if I am missing it, but I couldn't recognize a straight answer to my question yet... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/407329/#p407329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Discord: How to ignore a user?
Discord: How to ignore a user? Can someone instruct me please, how am I supposed to ignore, aka mute or block a user in discord chat?Accordingly the option to mute, ignore, or block a user can be found by right clicking on the selected user's name, but when I use the right-click replacing key, totally different options appear. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/407295/#p407295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Browser recommendation?
Re: Browser recommendation? Well, my sighted pal ran a few anti-spyware programs and cleaners, but couldn't find anything...yes, C-cleaner I have also used in the past, maybe it will help, thanks for the hint!As for adds, I did check, and deactivated-re-activated their blocking, did the same even for notifications, nothing helped.(my friend also suggested this to me)But yes, my pal tried his 1st attempt remotely, with the help of the Team Viewer program, it looks he will have to visit me in person, hopefully he will be more successful with fixing Chrome then. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/403297/#p403297 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Browser recommendation?
Re: Browser recommendation? As for Firefox, what annoys me like hell is its modification of combined lists: Ever since it was applied, I have to press space in each single combined list, in order to even start hearing its elements, (can hear nothing at all until I press it), and then, especially in case of multiple combined lists, which occure quite often in games, (when selecting options/settings for example), I have to press tab even twice to move on to the next list, setting, or option, then press space again to activate that one...etc.Plus, in cases I press exit to quit the selection of the list elements, instead of the actual, already selected one, the 1st one in the row appears as chosen...it can make one confused like hell!I really have no idea, why Firefox developers had to spoil, to ruin this combine list feature this much for screen reader users, when it was working perfectly before that dumb, senseless, pointless modification of theirs...This issue is making me pissed off like hell eacn time I encounter it, so it was the main reason why I have given up using that browser, the reduced speed, which seems to be fixed recently, was only my secondary reason. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402823/#p402823 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Browser recommendation?
Re: Browser recommendation? As 1st, thanks for all your suggestions/recommendations guys!Edge is also a browser I am planning to try out btw.As for your inquiry Dark...sigh...it will be a looong list, hope you will have the patience to read it to the end.So my current issues with Google Chrome are:1. It became filled with advertisements. (this wasn't the case before)After I close it, 2-3 advertisements, of quite an aggressive type become active and pending, despite all the malware aand spyware interventions we tried with my sighted friend.2. It won't start normally, after each system reboot, I have to start it twice in order to be able to use the "alt" button for accessing options, since after the 1st launch it doesn't function properly, gives some sounds instead of options appearing.It sometimes forgets even my google account name and password, and starts "browsing as a guest", without my bookmark and settings, till I log in into google.3. It simply "swollows" the lower part of longer textual files I write, starting from a certain character or line limit I guess.Nothing I wrote under that limit appears when I wish to view, or edit the textual file, everything goes blank, as if nothing wmore is written, and there seems to be no way to adjust or fix this.Normally other browsers have no such problem, the whole text is readable/editable in Firefox for example.4. When using Facebook and its messenger, (and I use it the most of the time lately, due my newest nr 1 favorite game Text Spaced, which runs on FB-messenger), very often the lower part of the text and options gets swollowed, they, so the last few lines simply disappear, or won't appear at all, but at least this can be solved by a refresh with F5 key, it can still get annoying due occuring very frequently though.5. Emoges don't work properly neither on messenger, nor on Discord chat of Text Spaced, actually they almost totally fail.The only case I can read them is when posted by others in certain Discord chats, but not in all...so only in some of them. Whenever I try to send an emoge, and start browsing among them to select one, only "image" is read for all, and most recently not even that is read anymore. (this also wasn't malfunctioning before, I could use emoges perfectly in Discord chats)6. Many of the messages, almost every single of them in Facebook, in messenger and on Discord are read multiple time in a row, starting from FB related ones, then those related to the Text Spaced game in messenger, and then the replies in its Discord chat channels.Oh, of course I am using the mobile version of FB, it still has less accessibility issues than the normal one.7. After using the browser for a longer time period, certain screen reader functions start failing, or the whole NVDA sbecomes so laggy, that it cannot be used properly anymore.There are even cases when it totally freezes, for example sometimes after trying to jump over very long text, by using the "page down" key repeatedly.And these are only the problems/issues I can remember at this very moment, if I would take some more time thinking, I could certainly come up with further ones.Again, the most of these problems didn't occure, weren't present before, in the time I started using Chrome as my primary browser, so all is becoming worse and worse, Google starts functioning more and more inaccessible to me, as if it's...dying, or suffering by a severe desease...or infection.(tried running several anti-spy-malware programs, no results, no interventions, no clue, no cure found. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402817/#p402817 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Browser recommendation?
Re: Browser recommendation? As 1st, thanks for all your suggestions/recommendations guys!Edge is also a browser I am planning to try out btw.As for your inquiry Dark...sigh...it will be a looong list, hope you will have the patience to read it to the end.So my current issues with Google Chrome are:1. It became filled with advertisements. (this wasn't the case before)After I close it, 2-3 advertisements, of quite an aggressive type become active and pending, despite all the malware aand spyware interventions we tried with my sighted friend.2. It won't start normally, after each system reboot, I have to start it twice in order to be able to use the "alt" button for accessing options, since after the 1st launch it doesn't function properly, gives some sounds instead of options appearing.It sometimes forgets even my google account name and password, and starts "browsing as a guest", without my bookmark and settings, till I log in into google.3. It simply "swollows" the lower part of longer textual files I write, starting from a certain character or line limit I guess.Nothing I wrote under that limit appears when I wish to view, or edit the textual file, everything goes blank, as if nothing wmore is written, and there seems to be no way to adjust or fix this.Normally other browsers have no such problem, the whole text is readable/editable in Firefox for example.4. When using Facebook and its messenger, (and I use it the most of the time lately, due my newest nr 1 favorite game Text Spaced, which runs on FB-messenger), very often the lower part of the text and options gets swollowed, they, so the last few lines simply disappear, or won't appear at all, but at least this can be solved by a refresh with F5 key, it can still get annoying due occuring very frequently though.5. Emoges don't work properly neither on messenger, nor on Discord chat of Text Spaced, actually they almost totally fail.The only case I can read them is when posted by others in certain Discord chats, but not in all...so only in some of them. Whenever I try to send an emoge, and start browsing among them to select one, only "image" is read for all, and most recently not even that is read anymore. (this also wasn't malfunctioning before, I could use emoges perfectly in Discord chats)6. Many of the messages, almost every single of them in Facebook, in messenger and on Discord are read multiple time in a row, starting from FB related ones, then those related to the Text Spaced game in messenger, and then the replies in its Discord chat channels.7. After using the browser for a longer time period, certain screen reader functions start failing, or the whole NVDA sbecomes so laggy, that it cannot be used properly anymore.There are even cases when it totally freezes, for example sometimes after trying to jump over very long text, by using the "page down" key repeatedly.And these are only the problems/issues I can remember at this very moment, if I would take some more time thinking, I could certainly come up with further ones.Again, the most of these problems didn't occure, weren't present before, in the time I started using Chrome as my primary browser, so all is becoming worse and worse, Google starts functioning more and more inaccessible to me, as if it's...dying, or suffering by a severe desease...or infection.(tried running several anti-spy-malware programs, no results, no interventions, no clue, no cure found. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402817/#p402817 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Browser recommendation?
Re: Browser recommendation? Yes, I tried Opera too, but way back in my sighted period, I found it better than Explorer, but not as good as Firefox...however, knowing my issues with Firefox, I may try it now again, but with a screen reader this time of course.Many thanks for your suggestion! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402692/#p402692 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Browser recommendation
Re: Browser recommendation A browser named Safari was recommended to me, but by a sighted person...what do you guys know about it, how accessible is it?(haven't heard of it by now) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402685/#p402685 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Browser recommendation
Browser recommendation Computer: a Desktop Pc, I5 processor, quite fast and strong, adjusted for gaming, with above average speed internet connection.Operating system: Windows 10Screen reader: NVDACurrent primary browser: Google Chrome.Back then I had enough of Mozilla Firefox, especially since it became slower, and less accessible due its certain modifications.So I changed my primary browser to Google Chrome, which seemed to be more appropriate for screen reader usage.However, I am starting to experience more and more annoying problems, issues, inconveniences with it lately.As a veteran, devoted gamer, I mostly play online games, and participate in online communications, like chats and forums, those are my favorite spare-time entertainment.Can you guys suggest, recommend a browser, which would, hopefully, suit my computer, its operating system, my screen reader, and expectations better? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402683/#p402683 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Nvda stops reading documents
Re: Nvda stops reading documents Yeah, I could guess this is an extremely rare and strange issue, after all, not even that sighted computer-expert friend of mine, who is far more adept with Windows software and operations than I ever was, even in my sighted period, could not solve it with his 1st attempt either...so I admit creating this forum topic out of pure despair! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342372#p342372 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Nvda stops reading documents
Re: Nvda stops reading documents Yeah, I could guess this is an extremely rare and strange issue, after all, not even that sighted computer-expert friend of mine, who is far more adept with Windows software and operations than I ever was in my sighted period, could not solve it at the 1st try either...so I admit creating this forum topic out of pure despair! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342372#p342372 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Nvda stops reading documents
Re: Nvda stops reading documents In addition:We also discovered, that after this problem starts, NVDA can not only read, but edit, delete a single character from any (editable) textual documents anymore.It does access, enter them, I can hear the confirmation click-sound, but can perform absolutely no operations within them, even while muted, as if something is blocking, preventing it from taking any actions at all., including reading of the document itself!(so all I can do is exitting them again)The only way I currently know for "solving" this issue is restarting my system, everything works fine again after the restart, but I sincerely hope this is not the only "cure" for this problem! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342351#p342351 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Nvda stops reading documents
Nvda stops reading documents Yes, as the title announces, after some time period, (luckily usually a longer time), NVDA simply stops reading any textual documents at all!So all documents, word-type text, .txt-files, instructions, help-files, so the screen reader remains totally silent after entering, accessing any type of readable, editable documents!I suspect, that the issue has something to do with the amtivirus program, and its active, or passive actions, especially alerts, since I recently discovered, that the problem has started right after one of its loud-announced alerts, when it deleted a allegedly infected file, (it has announced even its path btw), but with the help of my sighted friend, we tried even 3 antivirus software, and the problem kept happening by all 3 of them!So as I currently estimate, its not the antivirus program which directly causes this issue, but something, some other program, which it occasionally "triggers", especially during scanning and after virus-detection.My guess would be, that we should find out, which program it is, and simply turn it off, or deactivate it.My operating system is Windows 10 now, using the NVDA screen-reader, and currently the Bit Defender antivirus, but as I told above, we tried out 2 other ones too in the meantime.Anyone ever experienced a similar issue?I know this one will be a "tough cookie", but maybe...just maybe someone of you can still come out with a solution or a suggestion, or at least provide me with a clue or advice??? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342343#p342343 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome Well. by now I vecome a bit more familiar with Chrome, and have actually fixed all my issues with it, only 1 has still remained: the one with merging bookmarked pages!I tried to re-import them from Firefox, but with the same result, they initially were placed into a separate, "imported from Mozilla Firefox" folder, and I still have found no way to remove them, or my new ones bookmarked in Chrome, into the same group or folder.(normally this is only a minor inconvenience for me, the delay it causes is minimal, but I would still like everything to work the way I prefer...it's my perfectionism I guess) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340825#p340825 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome Yes, I found the bookmark manager menu, but will have to study it a bit further, it seems quite complex to me at the 1st look...But what you told about importing bookmarks, gave me an idea...maybe I did have the option, the alternative to choose the folder I wish to import them to, and I missed to change it from Firefox to Chrome...or something similar.So maybe I will just delete all the imported bookmarks, then re-import them again, by watching the location or folder-name choice closely. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340418#p340418 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome Actually it is working just the perfect way for me now, since for those sighted users, like relatives and guests of mine, the text-correction is still active, they may find it useful when writing text on my computer, but it doesn't bother me, slow me down, or obstruct me with its "incorrect word" announcing anymore.So the current solution suits me just fine!However, when we are already at the Chrome topic, there remained one more small adjustment, which I intend to fix, to make the browser functioning just the way I wish:The bookmarks imported from Firefox are currently placed into a separate group from those pages, which I bookmarked in Chrome so far.Using bookmarks makes my life, and I guess the life of the most blind computer-users much easier, and their internet-surfing much faster in general, so I would really prefer having all my bookmarks, meaning from the both type, the fresh ones, and the ones imported from Firefox, in the same place, stored and listed in the same group, so I could access them even faster, and more comfortable in the future.Summarized, I wish to move, or gather, aka MERGE ALL MY BOOKMARKS into the same group, both the fresh-bookmarked pages, and those imported from Firefox.Any ideas or suggestions how to perform this? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340399#p340399 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome Yess!!!Thanks Dark, you are a true genius man!!!I really had to turn off spell-checking in NVDA, I should have guessed it myself, after all it's fresh-installed...Now the spell correction in Chrome is actually still working, mom says incorrect words are still underlined with red, both in hungarian and english, but hey...don't care, that doesn't bother me at all, what matter is there are NOOO MOOORREEE "incorrect word" warnings, or at least they are not announced anymore, so my problem is solvedCHEERS!!! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340339#p340339 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome Aaah, that may be the issue, since normally, along with the new Windows, we reinstalled NVDA as well!!!Or if not that...then the hungarian Chrome must be a bit different from the english one, at least in that aspect...so if your suggestion won't work, I guess I will just try to install the english version instead.(not that I insist too much on the hungarian version, I both speak and write english almost as fluently as my mother tongue by now) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340337#p340337 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome So what I wish is to DISABLE THE FUNCTIONING of the spell correction program, entirely!(setting it to check, or not check words doesn't help, it still functions, in the above described way, while I want it to totally stop functioning) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340321#p340321 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome When I turn them off, no spell checking happens, which results in ALL text, regardless of the language, and regardless if it has a meaning or not, gets underlined and announced as "incorrect word".When I turn all on, only those text, which are not present in the dictionaries get underlined, and announced as "incorrect word".What I wish is that NO text gets underlined and announced as "incorrect word" at all, so not even if I type gnntgehnr njhhaeéghnrae for example!(as I said, I have a reason for this, there is an online boxing game called WEBL, which I have became very much addicted to recently, and where many combined abreviations are used when writing fight-plans for our fighters, and whenever I create, and then check fight-plans, text-correction keeps bugging me like hell, I just cannot construct, check, and correct my written plans right, since NVDA keeps constantly spamming me with "incorrect words" warnings and alerts, all the time while I am working with them) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340319#p340319 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome As I promised, I am posting my problems which occured, while following your instruction regarding turning spell-checking off:With the help of my sighted mom, we did find the options for language settings and spell-correction again, (btw I found those myself before too), however, we haven't found any button, or any possibility to totally deactivate/turn spell-checking or correction off, all we found were buttons for activating, or deactivating the spell-correcting for those 2 languages, which are set for Chrome atm, that are the original language hungarian, and the one I added manually, english US.We also failed to find a way to remove any of those 2 set languages.So all we could do was turning spell-checking on or off for those 2 languages, which resulted either in every single word considered for wrong, and commenting "this word is incorrect", when spell checking for that language was turned off, or when it was on, existing words were not corrected, but all others outside from those existing in dictionariy were still labeled, and announced as "incorrect words"...so the problem wasn't solved at all, we are still at the starting point!Summarized, we still fail to find the mentioned button for totally deactivating/turning off the spell-correcting in Chrome! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340277#p340277 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome
Re: Need some help with Google Chrome Woww, this sounds real helpful, let's see if I can do all the suggested!Will post here in case I encounter any problems while following your instructions!Many thanks!!! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=340042#p340042 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Need some help with Google Chrome
Need some help with Google Chrome Since the new Firefox has several, quite annoying issues for NVDA users, )especially due the one with combined-lists). I have decided, (based on recommendation of some community-members here), to change my primary browser to Google Chrome, at least until those issues in Firefox will, (if they ever will), be totally corrected.It seems indeed faster, and quite screen-reader friendly, with no problems similar to those in the new Firefox, but I still have a few minor, but often annoying issues with it.I don't seem to be able to properly search for sites with its Google search-engine, nor to login to my bookmarked, favorite, most used pages, since always some kind of "automatic search-helper" activates, (after I type the very 1st symbol of my search-target), and confuses me totally, often making me totally "lost".The 2nd issue, which, due certain reasons, which I don't intend to explain here in details, is even more annoying for me:Namely, in certain cases, text-correction bugs me like hell, and I wish to just turn it off, deactivate it in general, whatever.I did find a setting for automatic text-correction, but I only managed to add more languages to it, I added english US, (my mother-tongue is hungarian, so it is the initial language in my browsers), that improved things a bit, but as I said, my goal is to totally turn text-correction off.So can you please tell me, how can I deactivate it in Chrome?(I know how to do it in Firefox, but the same way doesn't seem to work in Chrome, I wonder if it can be deactivated at all?)Maybe if I just remove ALL languages from the text.correction list...but as I remember, initially there were none there, and the correction was still working, bugging me like hell in certain cases... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=339966#p339966 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Need help with Google Chrome
Need help with Google Chrome Since the new Firefox has several, quite annoying issues for NVDA users, I decided, (based on recommendation of some community-members here), to change my primary browser to Google Chrome, at least until those issues in Firefox will, (if they ever will), be totally corrected.It seems indeed faster, and quite screen-reader friendly, with no problems similar to those in the new Firefox, but I still have a few minor, but often annoying issues with it.I don't seem to be able to properly search for sites with its Google search-engine, nor to login to my bookmarked, favorite, most used pages, since always some kind of "automatic search-helper" activates, (after I type the very 1st symbol of my search-target), and confuses me totally, often making me totally "lost".The 2nd issue, which, due certain reasons, which I don't intend to explain here in details, is even more annoying for me:Namely, in certain cases, text-correction bugs me like hell, and I wish to just turn it off, deactivate it in general, whatever.I did find a setting for automatic text-correction, but I only managed to add more languages to it, I added english US, (my mother-tongue is hungarian, so it is the initial language in my browsers), that improved things a bit, but as I said, my goal is to totally turn text-correction off.So can you please tell me, how can I deactivate it in Chrome?(I know how to do it in Firefox, but the same way doesn't seem to work in Chrome, I wonder if it can be deactivated at all?)Maybe if I just remove ALL languages from the text.correction list...but as I remember, initially there were none there, and the correction was still working, bugging me like hell in certain cases... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=339966#p339966 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Important information for firefox users: Firefox 57 and screen readers
Re: Important information for firefox users: Firefox 57 and screen readers As an NVDA user, I never had any issues with combined-lists before, and not even IE has them, so I doubt any other browser, except this new Firefox, has any issues with them either.What I hate like hell is, when certain groups of "software developers and experts", with the sheer aim to "prove how sedulous, how enthusiastic, devoted they are to their duty", and "how hard they work, how much efforts they make to earn their so precious money", are actually capable to totally ruin so far perfectly working, even most popular top quality software!)again, merely to prove their loyalty to their companies and bosses, and secure their jobs, by convincing them how "hard-working and indispensable" they are)And this is by far not the 1st...and unfortunately not the last sad case when that happens, and will still happen...at least until money will rule this hopeless, greedy, disappointing human-society and world! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=339857#p339857 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Important information for firefox users: Firefox 57 and screen readers
Re: Important information for firefox users: Firefox 57 and screen readers As a longer-time NVDA and Firefox user, I can confirm, that there indeed are certain, quite annoying issues with the newest Firefox release, which slow our, so far routine operations down!The most annoying of those appears by operating with combined-lists:We move, jump to a combined list, and it does open the way it did before, but then all similarities end.When we move down and up in the list, NVDA doesn't read the list-elements anymore at all, so we have no idea where, at which list-elements we currently are.With the help of a sighted friend, we figured out a "cure", a partial solution for the issue, but as I said, it's just a partial one, and using combined-lists is still quite...uncomfortable, and much more time-consuming than before.Namely, whenever we enter a combined-list, we must press space, so then, and only then, the elements of the list will be read while browsing it, but then, when we wish to select one of them, we must press space again, if we don't do so, tabbing to the next element will not work.Then, after tabbing to the next element, (for example imagine a row of combined-lists, containing options, settings, alternatives), we must press space to activate the reading of the next list, for if we don't, we won't hear a single word again!And we have to repeat this process by every single combined list we wish to access, each single time, in cases of settings, options, many times in a row...normally, we had no such unpleasent hold-up with the old Firefox, so this issue will surely piss not only me off, but all other regular Firefox and NVDA users!Plus, there are some other, less-annoying, minor issues, which I won't even mention here, but the fact is, that even many sighted Firefox-users keep complaining about this new release, so hopefully the Mozilla team got bombarded by complaints by now, and will correct these issues in their next release, which, due the tons of complaints I guess, they will issue pretty soon!Summarized, the new Firefox is a nightmare for NVDA users, it even seems to work slower than the old one, (despite my change from Windows 8.1 to 10 yesterday), it is much less screen-reader-friendly in general, and since sighted users have also several, more serious issues with it, we hope for a new update correcting all those, ASAP! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=339661#p339661 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Well yes...that's exactly what I am so scared of, that will make my worst fears come true...if you guys could only imagine, how fanatically I was protecting my only one, existing and functioning eye, how "abnormally" I kept guarding it all my life, all the time, merely to prevent this thing to ever happen to it...and it will still happen, despite all my, sometimes even paranoid precausion measures...Anyway, thanks for the answer Dark, that figures, now I know all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=320137#p320137 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Well yes...that's exactly what I am so scared of, that will make my worst fears come true...if you guys could only imagine, how fanatically I was protecting my only one functioning eye, how "abnormally" I kept guarding it all my life, all the time, merely to prevent this thing to ever happen to it...and it will still happen, despite all my, sometimes even paranoid precausion measures...Anyway, thanks for the answer Dark, that figures, now I know all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=320137#p320137 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Thanks again for all the empathy, encouragement, mental support, advices, and hints!However, it seems You guys keep missing my actual, most severe problem, my current darkest fear, and the information I seek about it.So this time I shall really try to formulate it as accurately as possible:The information I seek is neither about blindness itself, nor about living/getting along blind in life.It is actually one step beyond blindness, and I fear it is far worse than it.I fear, that although I am starting to accept, and get used to my blindness, I will never be able to do so with that state beyond it.In fact, I doubt I will ever be able to even cope with it, at least not without losing my sanity. (or is "common sense" the correct _expression_?)Me, who still has a no more functioning, but still existing eyeball, with which I can "sense" the darkness around me, and another one without an eyeball, with a plastic prothesys on its place, can clearly experience the difference, that same difference, which is so difficult for me to explain to You here.With my still existing, no more functioning eye, I can sense darkness around me, just like if a sighted person would get blindfolded.With my other eye, which is replaced with the plastic prothesys, I can sense nothing at all, so no darkness even.It literarily feels as a combination of dead skin, meat, and plastic.So I only feel something is there, but it produces, it "emits" no senses at all, that's why I compared it to a glass-eye of a puppet, and mentioned the "total puppet" state and feeling, which is the one I fear so enormously.So, my right eye is still a "sensing", living organ, while the left one is a senseless, "dead" one, I have no visual sense with it, not even the sense of darkness, unlike with the right one.Just like with our hands or legs, those have no visual sense, so they cannot "see", visually receive, experience our surrounding, )regardless if it is colorful, black-and white, infrared, or total darkness), the very same is the situation with my left eye.So the thing I wish, (and also fear) to find out now is, that after the eyeball-removal surgery, will my right eye become just as lifeless as the left one, will I be unable to sense even darkness around me anymore?Will my head remain totally visionless, meaning without ANY sense of vision, like my hands or legs are?Edit:The misunderstandings are probably caused by my definition of "blindness".Namely, "blindness" for me means "seeing", being able to sense only darkness around myself, while not being capable even of that, is an even far worse situation, a far more scary alternative than blindness itself! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=320129#p320129 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Thanks again for all the empathy, encouragement, mental support, advices, and hints!However, it seems You guys keep missing my actual, most severe problem, my current darkest fear, and the information I seek about it.So this time I shall really try to formulate it as accurately as possible:The information I seek is neither about blindness itself, nor about living/getting along blind in life.It is actually one step beyond blindness, and I fear it is far worse than it.I fear, that although I am starting to accept, and get used to my blindness, I will never be able to do so with that state beyond it.In fact, I doubt I will ever be able to even cope with it, at least not without losing my sanity. (or is "common sense" the correct _expression_?)Me, who still has a no more functioning, but still existing eyeball, with which I can "sense" the darkness around me, and another one without an eyeball, with a plastic prothesys on its place, can clearly experience the difference, that same difference, which is so difficult for me to explain to You here.With my still existing, no more functioning eye, I can sense darkness around me, just like if a sighted person would get blindfolded.With my other eye, which is replaced with the plastic prothesys, I can sense nothing at all, so no darkness even.It literarily feels as a combination of dead skin, meat, and plastic.So I only feel something is there, but it produces, it "emits" no senses at all, that's why I compared it to a glass-eye of a puppet, and mentioned the "total puppet" state and feeling, which is the one I fear so enormously.So, my right eye is still a "sensing", living organ, while the left one is a senseless, "dead" one, I have no visual sense with it, not even the sense of darkness, unlike with the right one.Just like with our hands or legs, those have no visual sense, so they cannot "see", visually receive, experience our surrounding, )regardless if it is colorful, black-and white, infrared, or total darkness), the very same is the situation with my left eye.So the thing I wish, (and also fear) to find out now is, that after the eyeball-removal surgery, will my right eye become just as lifeless as the left one, will I be unable to sense even darkness around me anymore?Will my head remain totally visionless, meaning without ANY sense of vision, like my hands or legs are? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=320129#p320129 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Yes, the colors I can still remember, and hopefully will remember them till the end of my life...actually dreams are the most pleasent part of my life now, since in my dreams I can always still see, despite being subsequently aware of my vision loss, sometimes I dream of seeing again, while knowing what happened to me, and I dream it often even round 10 times during a single night, those dreams mostly look so realistic, that I almost always believe, that by some wonder my vision has returned, and feel so happy...you can imagine, how depressing my final wakeup feels after such dreams...it's always the worst, most painful part, realizing the true reality, meaning my total blindness, each single morning, over and over again!As for the birth-defect theory, some doctors are still claiming it too, but my mother definitely keeps denying it, and after she told me the the true story of my birth, the one I already told here in this forum-thread, the one about carelessness of som e hospital employee, probably a nurse, which was approved by that certain west-german eye-specialist professor, you know...I maximally trust her, and don't believe in the "birth-defect" theory at all, especially since in such cases, usually some other physical, or mental defects manifest by birth too, along with the one in question, (this was told by more doctors-specialists to us so far), but in my case no other defect occured at all!However, this doesn't exclude, that one of the other events you mentioned, still affected my birth-conditions, except the ones involving my mom's lifestyle, who wasn't drinking, and had stopped smoking 10 years before my birth. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319897#p319897 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Yes, the colors I can still remember, and hopefully will remember them till the end of my life...actually dreams are the most pleasent part of my life now, since in my dreams I can always still see, despite being subsequently aware of my vision loss, sometimes I dream of seeing again, while knowing what happened to me, and I dream it often even round 10 times during a single night, those dreams mostly look so realistic, that I almost always believe, that by some wonder my vision has returned, and feel so happy...you can imagine, how depressing my final wakeup feels after such dreams...it's always the worst, most painful part, realizing the true reality, meaning my total blindness, each single morning, over and over again!As for the birth-defect theory, some doctors are still claiming it too, but my mother definitely keeps denying it, and after she told me the the true story of my birth, the one I already told here in this forum-thread, the one about carelessness of som e hospital employee, probably a nurse, which was approved by that certain west-german eye-specialist professor, you know...I maximally trust her, and don't believe in the "birth-defect" theory at all, especially since in such cases, usually some other physical, or mental defects manifest by birth too, along with the one in question, (this was told by more doctors-specialists to us so far), but in my case no other defect occured at all!However, this doesn't exclude, that one of the other events you mentioned, still affected my birth-conditions, except the ones involving my mom, who wasn't drinking, and had stopped smoking 10 years before my birth. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319897#p319897 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Many thanks for your empathy and moral support Shrike!You see, it's not blindness itself which makes me depressed, I already learned, actually forced myself to accept it, and "cope with it" in a way.What I fear is far worse, far more scaring to me than blindness itself:Namely, since I totally lost my remaining eyesight, I thought, actually hoped, that "blindness" itself means, equals "seeing", sensing, experiencing total darkness all around me, which is how I "sense" with my still existing eyeball now.And I was convinced, that it was the worst possible thing what could have happened to me.However, I am starting to realize, especially after this shocking news I posted here, that there is a far worse alternative even than blindness, when I will not be able to "sense" even the darkness around myself, nothing more at all, just like with my left eye, with a "lifeless" plastic prothesys in it s hole.Sensing nothing at all anymore, instead of sensing at least the eternal darkness...this sounds much more scary to me!And this so scary thing is exactly what WILL, inevitably, happen to me sooner or later! (I can just hope for "later") URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319867#p319867 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Many thanks for your empathy and moral support Shrike!You see, it's not blindness itself which makes me depressed, I already learned, actually forced myself to accept it, and "cope with it" in a way.What I fear is far worse, far more scaring to me than blindness itself:Namely, since I totally lost my remaining eyesight, I thought, actually hoped, that "blindness" itself means, equals "seeing", sensing, experiencing total darkness all around me, which is how I "sense" with my still existing eyeball now.However, I am starting to realize, especially after this shocking news I posted here, that there is a far worse alternative even than blindness, when I will not be able to "sense" even the darkness around myself, nothing more at all, just like with my left eye, with an artifical plastic prothesys in its hole.Sensing nothing at all amymore, instead of sensing at least the eternal darkness...this soun ds much more scary to me!And this so scary thing is exactly what WILL, inevitably, happen to me sooner or later! (I can just hope for "later") URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319867#p319867 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Many thanks for your empathy and moral support Shrike!You see, it's not blindness itself which makes me depressed, I already learned, actually forced myself to accept it, and "cope with it" in a way.What I fear is far worse, far more scaring to me than blindness itself:Namely, since I totally lost my remaining eyesight, I thought, actually hoped, that "blindness" itself means, equals "seeing", sensing, experiencing total darkness all around me, which is how I "sense" with my still existing eyeball now.However, I am starting to realize, especially after this shocking news I posted here, that there is a far worse alternative even than blindness, when I will not be able to "sense" even the darkness around myself, nothing more at all, just like with my left eye, with an artifical plastic prothesys in its hole.Sensing nothing at all amymore, instead of sensing at least the eternal darkness...this soun ds much more scary to me!And this so scary thing is exactly what WILL, inevitably, happen to me sooner or later! (I can just hope "later"( URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319867#p319867 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Of course I have to undergo several regular controls and examinations, (3 or 4 times in a year, it depends), examinations like the so called "ultrasound" method, and of course roentgen rays, in order to check for eventual further malicious transmissions of the tumor...luckily none was discovered so far!Btw those are no therapies, therapies would be necessary only in case a transmission appears, those are a little annoying, but still mere ordinary control-examinations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319762#p319762 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Of course I have to undergo several regular controls and examinations, (3 or 4 times in a year, it depends), examinations like the so called "ultrasound" method, and of course roentgen rays, in order to check for eventual further malicious transmissions of the tumor...luckily none was discovered so far!Btw those are no therapies, therapies would be necessary only in case a transmission appears, those are a little annoying, but still only mere regular control-examinations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319762#p319762 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Of course I have to undergo several regular examinations and tests, (3 or 4 times in a year, it depends), examinations like the so called "ultrasound" method, and of course roentgen rays, in order to check for eventual further malicious transmissions of the tumor...luckily none was discovered so far! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319762#p319762 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Well this is something I always wanted to ask those of You, who are without both vision and existing eyeballs, so those wearing prothesys in both of their eyeholes: Do you "see", meaning sense at least the darkness around you, like in the case of my right, still existing eyeball, or you don't sense even darkness around you, like in the case of my left, plastic-prothesys eye?Dark, could you please ask your wife about this matter?)the answer to this question is what I am afraid of so much, but unfortunately the time has come for me to ask it, and face the result, which will be identical with the outcome of my future, inevitable eyeball-removal surgery) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319728#p319728 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Well this is something I always wanted to ask those of You, who are without both vision and existing eyeballs: Do you "see", meaning sense at least the darkness around you, like in the case of my right, still existing eyeball, or you don't sense even darkness around you, like in the case of my left, plastic-prothesys eye?)the answer to this question is what I am afraid of so much, but unfortunately the time has come for me to ask it, and face the result, which will be identical with the outcome of my future, inevitable eyeball-removal surgery) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319728#p319728 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Well this is something I always wanted to ask those of You, who are without both vision and existing eyeballs: Do you "see", meaning sense at least the darkness around you, like in the case of my right, still existing eyeball, or you don't sense even darkness around you, like in the case of my left, plastic-prothesys eye?)the answer to this question is what I am afraid of so much, but unfortunately the time has come for me to ask it, and face the outcome, which will be identical with the result of my future eyeball-removal surgery) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319728#p319728 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Well this is something I always wanted to ask those of You, who are without both vision and existing eyeballs: Do you "see", meaning sense at least the darkness around you, like in the case of my right, still existing eyeball, or you don't sense even darkness around you, like in the case of my left, plastic-prothesys eye?)the answer to this question is what I am afraid of so much, but unfortunately the time has come for me to ask it, and face the outcome, which is identic with the result of my future eyeball-removal surgery) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319728#p319728 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! I actually fear neither the physical pain, nor the surgery process, after all I have been through quite many of those by now.What I fear is its outcome.For those, who have got their other, second eyeball, totally regardless if sighted or not, (and the vast majority of people do), the situation is different, they will still have one existing eye left, even if it is not functioning anymore.If only I would have my other eyeball, like the most people do, (again, regardless if sighted or not), I would have accepted the removal surgery right away, to avoid the risks of further transmissions...but I have none, I have no other, such a "reserve" remaining eyeball left!(sorry if I have used the _expression_ "reserve" inaccurately again(It is pretty hard to explain it: with my right, still existing eyeball I can still sense, register, recognize, so we can say "see" the darkness around me, as if you would have your eyes blindfolded, bu t knowing they are still there...with my left one I sense, "see" nothing at all, not even darkness, it is just a combination of lifeless skin, flesh, and plastic...thinking of my right eye becoming this same lifeless combination, leaving me without capable even to sense darkness around me...now that is what I fear like hell!This was about the mentioned "puppet-feeling I fear so much, and which you asked me about.Now about the case right after my birth:The hospital where I was born, (back in former Yugoslavia), persistently claimed that I was already born without my left eye.However, we had a doctor family-friend, who started to doubt in that statement, and advised us to visit a famous, leading eye-specialist professor in Germany, )West Germany back then of course), to ask for his more professional diagnosis and oppinion.We did that, (with some financial support of a certain humane relative of ours), and the german professor stated, that considering my (back then) still existing eye-nerves, or sight-nerves, (sorry for the inaccurate translation), I MUST have had an existing eyeball by my birth too!This can only mean, that I must have lost my left eye due careless handling, most likely of some nurse, right after the moment of my birth.Normally the hospital never admitted this openly, and we wanted to avoid bringing the case before the court, meaning officially sueing the hospital of my home town, the town I was living in for almost 30 years, after all we did need their cooperation in many cases in the past, so "messing" with them would have certainly not been to our benefit.Plus, the german eye-expert professor also advised us, actually insisted to "make no hussle" out of the matter, he obviously didn't want to be involved into an eventual conflict, law-process with a possible scandal, with/against a foreign, yugoslav hospital even, that would definitely hurt his fame and re putation I guess..So we quietly accepted the "official diagnosis" about me being born without left eyeball, paid for a plastic eye-prothesys to replace it with, and lived on with it...all the way until a large, malicious tumor was discovered in my other, so far healthy and functioning eye...the rest you know. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319719#p319719 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! I actually fear neither the physical pain, nor the surgery process, after all I have been through quite many of those by now.What I fear is its outcome.For those, who have got their other, second eyeball, totally regardless if sighted or not, (and the vast majority of people do), the situation is different, they will still have one existing eye left, even if it is not functioning anymore.If only I would have my other eyeball, like the most people do, (again, regardless if sighted or not), I would have accepted the removal surgery right away, to avoid the risks of further transmissions...but I have none, I have no other, such a "reserve" remaining eyeball left!(sorry if I have used the _expression_ "reserve" inaccurately again(This was about the mentioned "puppet-feeling I fear so much, and which you asked me about.About the case right after my birth:The hospital where I was born, (back in former Yugoslavia), persist ently claimed that I was already born without my left eye.However, we had a doctor family-friend, who started to doubt in that statement, and advised us to visit a famous, leading eye-specialist professor in Germany, )West Germany back then of course), to ask for his more professional diagnosis and oppinion.We did that, (with some financial support of a certain humane relative of ours), and the german professor stated, that considering my (back then) still existing eye-nerves, or sight-nerves, (sorry for the inaccurate translation), I MUST have had an existing eyeball by my birth too!This can only mean, that I must have lost my left eye due careless handling, most likely of some nurse, right after the moment of my birth.Normally the hospital never admitted this openly, and we wanted to avoid bringing the case before the court, meaning officially sueing the hospital of my home town, the town I was living in for almost 30 years, after all we did need their coop eration in many cases in the past, so "messing" with them would have certainly not been to our benefit.Plus, the german eye-expert professor also advised us, actually insisted to "make no hussle" out of the matter, he obviously didn't want to be involved into an eventual conflict, law-process with a possible scandal, with/against a foreign, yugoslav hospital even, that would definitely hurt his fame and reputation I guess..So we quietly accepted the "official diagnosis" about me being born without left eyeball, paid for a plastic eye-prothesys to replace it with, and lived on with it...all the way until a large, malicious tumor was discovered in my other, so far healthy and functioning eye...the rest you know. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319719#p319719 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Thanks for all the moral support guys, and it seems I used an inaccurate _expression_, (again), which made Dark misunderstand that certain part of my post:Namely, it is by far not the artificial eye which I fear, nor my physical appearence, after all I wear a plastic eye-prothesis instead of my left eye, since my early childhood even, and my facial symetry also sucks because of it, (despite that prothesys, my face still didn't manage to develop proportionally), it's the feeling of wearing a lifeless puppet-head instead of my own, )"puppet was the word I meant to use instead of "dummy"), what I fear the most.I did have a seeing eye, and now I still have that eye as an organ, which, even without its primary function, (so without seeing anymore),, is still there, I feel it as a living part of my body, and it still signalizes me that there still is...something...in that eyehole, its a living organ, with which I can still sense, registrate at least da rkness, it still helps me when moving my head into directions, so it is still a source of orientation...but if it will become just a lifeless piece of glass or plastic, like my other eye is...with that one I can't "see", actually sense even darkness, there is nothing there, just lifeless skin and plastic, and that's how my whole head will feel after losing my 2nd eyeball too...Don't know if I managed to express myself better this time... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319625#p319625 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A shocking and depressing news!
Re: A shocking and depressing news! Thanks for all the moral support guys, and it seems I used an inaccurate _expression_, (again), which made Dark misunderstand that certain part of my post:Namely, it is by far not the artificial eye which I fear, nor my physical appearence, after all I wear a plastic eye-prothesis instead of my left eye, since my early childhood even, and my facial symetry also sucks because of it, (despite that prothesys, my face still didn't manage to develop proportionally), it's the feeling of wearing a lifeless dummy-head instead of my own, what I fear the most.I did have a seeing eye, and now I still have that eye as an organ, which, even without its primary function, (so without seeing anymore),, is still there, I feel it as a living part of my body, and it still signalizes me that there still is...something...in that eyehole, its a living organ, with which I can still sense, registrate at least darkness, it still helps me when moving my head into directions, so it is st ill a source of orientation...but if it will become just a lifeless piece of glass or plastic, like my other eye is...with that one I can't "see", actually sense even darkness, there is nothing there, just lifeless skin and plastic, and that's how my whole head will feel after losing my 2nd eyeball too...Don't know if I managed to express myself better this time... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319625#p319625 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
A shocking and depressing news!
A shocking and depressing news! Greetings to all fellow VIP gamers!Unfortunately, to all those of You who might care, I have to announce a catastrophic, extremely shocking news, a true disaster, which made me severely depressed!Some of You may know by now, that I totally lost my vision round 1 and half years ago, but that was by far not the end of all my miseries.It was not enough, that I lost my left eye right after my birth, due the carelessness of a nurse, it was not enough, that I had to live my whole life with only one functioning eye, it was not enough that a large, malicious tumor was encountered in it over 3 years ago...it wasn't even enough that I totally lost my vision due it round 1 and half years ago...now, at my last hospital control-check, it was told to me, that absolutely nothing more can be done to save my still remaining one eyeball, so even that remaining one must be removed, in order to prevent tumor-transmission-risks!I was also told, that this "surgical i ntervention" will be inevitable sooner or later, even without any transmissions, due the enormous, unendurable pain, which will be caused by the constantly growing tumor.I was already proposed the eyeball-removal surgery, but normally I refused it for now, and decided to delay it for as long as it is possible...Even thinking of wearing a mere, lifeless ball over my neck, so without even a sense of a single one existing eyeball, like some stuffed, glass- or plastic-eyed dummy...this thought still makes me so shocked and depressed, that I cry like a newborn baby!I appologise for disturbing You guys with such a disasterous news, but I just had to tell, to shout it out to someone, wether they will care or not!!! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319595#p319595 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
A shocking and depressing news!
A shocking and depressing news! Greetings to all fellow VIP gamers!Unfortunately, to all those of You who might care, I have to announce a catastrophic, extremely shocking news, a true disaster, which made me severely depressed!Some of You may know by now, that I totally lost my vision round 1 and half years ago, but that was by far not the end of all my miseries.It was not enough, that I lost my left eye right after my birth, due the carelessness of a nurse, it was not enough, that I had to live my whole life with only one functioning eye, it was not enough that a large, malicious tumor was encountered in it over 3 years ago...it wasn't even enough that I totally lost my vision due it round 1 and half years ago...now, at my last hospital control-check, it was told to me, that absolutely nothing more can be done to save my still remaining one eye, so that even my remaining eyeball must be removed, in order to prevent tumor-transmission-risks!I was also told, that this "surgica l intervention" will be inevitable sooner or later, even without any transmissions, due the enormous, unendurable pain, which will be caused by the constantly growing tumor.I was already proposed the eyeball-removal surgery, but normally I refused it for now, and decided to delay it for as long as it is possible...Even thinking of wearing a mere, lifeless ball over my neck, so without even a sense of a single one existing eye, like some stuffed, glass- or plastic-eyed dummy...this thought still makes me so shocked and depressed, that I cry like a newborn baby!I appologise for disturbing You guys with such a disasterous news, but I just had to tell, to shout it out to someone, wether they will care or not!!! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319595#p319595 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
A shocking and depressing news!
A shocking and depressing news! Greetings to all fellow VIP gamers!Unfortunately, to all those of You who might care, I have to announce a catastrophic, extremely shocking news, a true disaster, which made me severely depressed!Some of You may know by now, that I totally lost my vision round 1 and half years ago, but that was by far not the end of all my miseries.It was not enough, that I lost my left eye right after my birth, due the carelessness of a nurse, it was not enough, that I had to live my whole life with only one functioning eye, it was not enough that a large, malicious tumor was encountered in it over 3 years ago...it wasn't even enough that I totally lost my vision due it round 1 and half years ago...now, at my last hospital control-check, it was told to me, that absolutely nothing more can be done to save my still remaining one eye, so that even my remaining eyeball must be removed, in order to prevent tumor-transmission-risks!I was also told, that this "surgica l intervention" will be inevitable sooner or later, even without any transmissions, due the enormous, unendurable pain, which will be caused by the constantly growing tumor.I was already proposed the eyeball-removal surgery, but normally I refused it for now, and decided to delay it for as long as it is possible...Even thinking of wearing a mere, lifeless ball over my neck, like some stuffed dummy, so without even a sense of a single one existing eye...this thought still makes me so shocked and depressed, that I cry like a newborn baby!I appologise for disturbing You guys with such a disasterous news, but I just had to tell, to shout it out to someone, wether they will care or not!!! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319595#p319595 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
