Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Piciok wrote:Hello there,Yes, of course, I would be. There is actually a larger community of blind navi junkies in Poland so you would receive a bunch of valuable feedback.The argument with holding phone in your hand vs. in your pocket is an important one. We use navigation for other things than sighted people sometimes. Often I wished I had a way to carry my cane in one hand, a bag of shopping in the other and still be able to handle my navigation as I find my way from that shop back to home, to the hotel etc. I don't know much about what is possible in web-apps and what is not so I can only keep my fingers crossed.One thing I found always missing, especially when I was beginning my adventure with accessible navigation, was a system of meaningful messages telling me how to interpret the data I receive, for instance, based on my bearing direction I wished I could hear things like "You're going wrong, turn around" or "You're back on the right path, carry on". This could be a special beginner's mode thing and could be disabled by those who feel advanced enough.Also, it would be great if using the available POI from OSM, the next turn announcement could carry more contextual information E.G. in order to reach your turn, you will have to cross the street to the other side on the way or that there are stairs to be taken, fixed obstacles on the way that are noted in the database etc. just so that the user knows what to expect on the way. It could also determine which side of the sidewalk to take based on the heading direction and available map data. This could be useful again for people just learning how orientation works but somehow I feel I would use that too.How doable are voice commands for hands-free operation? Of course at a later stage, when you're comfortable with the basics.Have you looked into Microsoft's mapping API's. Those could be less expensive than Google.Also, spatial sound seems to be a thing with navigation now. Have you seen GRMapa for instance?http://grmapa.zlotowicz.plA lot of users seem to be happy with how it lets you imagine the correlations between streets.I know this is a lot but I am really curious how far this can go.Looking forward to releases.kind regardsPawełHi,It is really valuable info you posted here.Since now I have no other option than keep your screen on and use navigation, I thaught perhaps it's worth to buy some closable / coverable case for the device and use it by putting your device into the pocket?Where are these blind navi junkies as you mentioned? I need some testing feedback.Your point about the wrong direction is smooth so I'll think about it's implementation a bit later, there are some major things to do, but that's the way to go.I tried to take an information about the stairs from OSM and it works as much as they have info about it. Another major thing is the side of the street. I would be able to calculate the side of the street perhaps, but since distance from the point towards the current location can be big enough, it makes this problem, because when straightest line towards the point from the current location is long, then angle becomes not such exact and I don't know if really it's possible to calculate such thing this way. Perhaps I would need some other points to get and then try to calculate the side of the street, however OSM provides such information when makes a route. Problem stays still, because their provided info about side of the street are usually unknown Of course if you GPS data is not so trusted, amongs the jumps of the bearing, you will hear different instructions about the sidewalk e.g. left or right side to take and then it decides differently, you will not feel very delighted.Voice commands perhaps could be implemented as well, because as a web developers, we may ask for a users permission of the microphone, but I need to check it out to be sure.Spatial sound sounds great to navigate through all the area, but since my requests to the MapQuest API are rather limited, it hardly can be implemented with the technologies that are in my hands so far. Perhaps I could download all the planet from OSM and put into the database, but all the services would crash instantly.I could try to include them as a separate xml files for each region, but there is really a lot of work for one person, so navigation through all the map is something I'll perhaps not do.Microsofts mapping APIs are also priced, however I'll make a research and decide.If you whish to test it, there is the first implementation: https://justbest.eu URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449159/#p449159 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Munawar wrote:I'd gladly host it if you'd like me to. I'm already paying for a server anyway.It would be great. I guess we can discuss about it when at least some testing will be on the way. There are of course features to implement, but you can test it and see how it goes: https://justbest.eu URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449157/#p449157 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it electro wrote:Well I was only hopping for only an app, instead of using Chrome on my android with commentary or Talkback feels so sluggish.Perhaps you wish to try it out: https://justbest.eu URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449156/#p449156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it hadi.gsf wrote:1. I would test and provide feedback for sure!2. It would have been great if it was an app, but since you have already started working on it, i'll be interested to see what you'll be doing! and you're right, maybe it wouldn't be that bad to use a browser if you need its functions thats not provided anywhere else.3. I don't have any technical skills for making apps so sorry, wouldn't be able to help.but yeah i'll be watching for the alpha/beta to testThanks though. My intention is to make some tool to help when you have no idea what to do. I know it's sounds inconfortable to use it via browser, but since it's good, perhaps it's not the worst case? You can test it here: https://justbest.euLooking forward to get the responce. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449154/#p449154 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it hurstseth405 wrote:Is there a way you could do a app? I'm not really good on using chrome on my droid?One of the members of this forum noded that there is a way to compile JS + HTML + CSS - WEB based content to a native app, so that remains to be seen what I can do. I turned on the testing environment, so I guess it depends on bunch of feedback and some other things as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449152/#p449152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Hi guys,I finally turned on a testing environment for an BlindWalk application for a while.If you wish to try it out, please create your account on https://justbest.eu/This will not be long online because of the further works I'm planning to do with it. I need your feedback as much concrete as possible.This application is based on directions from MapQuest API so I hope you enjoy it.As usually, would you use it, would it be confortable and so on? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449100/#p449100 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Hello there,Yes, of course, I would be. There is actually a larger community of blind navi junkies in Poland so you would receive a bunch of valuable feedback.The argument with holding phone in your hand vs. in your pocket is an important one. We use navigation for other things than sighted people sometimes. Often I wished I had a way to carry my cane in one hand, a bag of shopping in the other and still be able to handle my navigation as I find my way from that shop back to home, to the hotel etc. I don't know much about what is possible in web-apps and what is not so I can only keep my fingers crossed.One thing I found always missing, especially when I was beginning my adventure with accessible navigation, was a system of meaningful messages telling me how to interpret the data I receive, for instance, based on my bearing direction I wished I could hear things like "You're going wrong, turn around" or "You're back on the right path, carry on". This could be a special beginner's mode thing and could be disabled by those who feel advanced enough.Also, it would be great if using the available POI from OSM, the next turn announcement could carry more contextual information E.G. in order to reach your turn, you will have to cross the street to the other side on the way or that there are stairs to be taken, fixed obstacles on the way that are noted in the database etc. just so that the user knows what to expect on the way. It could also determine which side of the sidewalk to take based on the heading direction and available map data. This could be useful again for people just learning how orientation works but somehow I feel I would use that too.How doable are voice commands for hands-free operation? Of course at a later stage, when you're comfortable with the basics.Have you looked into Microsoft's mapping API's. Those could be less expensive than Google.Also, spatial sound seems to be a thing with navigation now. Have you seen GRMapa for instance?http://grmapa.zlotowicz.plA lot of users seem to be happy with how it lets you imagine the correlations between streets.I know this is a lot but I am really curious how far this can go.Looking forward to releases.kind regardsPaweł URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448775/#p448775 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it I'd gladly host it if you'd like me to. I'm already paying for a server anyway. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448534/#p448534 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Well I was only hopping for only an app, instead of using Chrome on my android with commentary or Talkback feels so sluggish. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448533/#p448533 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it 1. I would test and provide feedback for sure!2. It would have been great if it was an app, but since you have already started working on it, i'll be interested to see what you'll be doing! and you're right, maybe it wouldn't be that bad to use a browser if you need its functions thats not provided anywhere else.3. I don't have any technical skills for making apps so sorry, wouldn't be able to help.but yeah i'll be watching for the alpha/beta to test URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448458/#p448458 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Is there a way you could do a app? I'm not really good on using chrome on my droid? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448434/#p448434 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it bee_songkran wrote:Hey guys!Wow it was sound so interesting.I'm sure I will test it.Anyway keep up the good work.Best!Bee!Thanks. Now I'm at the stage to test an improved algorithm that I wrote few minutes ago My intention is to impruve automatic redirection between points and then I'll try to implement something like nearby places - the categories like transport, shops, food etc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448371/#p448371 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Hey guys!Wow it was sound so interesting.I'm sure I will test it.Anyway keep up the good work.Best!Bee! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448348/#p448348 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it arbuz wrote:electro wrote:arbuz wrote:I onestly didn't get the question I guess. But if you're talking about the developer of Dotwalker PRO, then I can say that we're not related with one another. Or perhaps you wish to know if it works like dotwalker PRO does than I can say that in some ways it does, but in some ways it's not.Wow, thanks for that answer. I mean, for example, forsquare support or something. BTW, I didn't talked with the developer of Dot Walker Pro eaven when he didn't pay google's subscription. I guess he has the source somewhere... but he didn't uploaded in a git platform.Today i'm going to improve an algorithm of redirection to the next point. It works, but my intention to make it better if I can, so we will see what I can acomblish.Furthermore, since this app is based on JS, all the code will be accessible to each and everyone of you if I wouldn't plan to compile it on some platform, but I guess that's rmain to be seen. I'm considering to make this platform totally free, but the biggest gamble is the payment for the server. If some of the users will be able to publish it on their systems if they have some kind of srws, I would be glad to hear from you...To answer to your curiosity about the Forsquare, my intention is to use the same MapQuest API and try to integrate categories of bars, shops, busStops and some others if I'll be able to. I'm planning to do it quickly enough, but we'll see what will folow.`for me, an app shall be ideal instead of the web browser, specially with offline maps if you want to add thhat functionality. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448340/#p448340 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it ironcross32 wrote:Sounds like a cool concept, I'm an iOS user though, plus, I wouldn't use an app that needed a browser and needed the phone to be unlocked because even with the screen darkened, it would still burn through battery, and it's just one more thing I'm having to hold.Thanks for your answer. You're indeed partly correct about the battery. It burns not faster as any other app does which uses GPS at it's part. Sighted people use their phones and almost constantly checks their screen if they have no clue where to go. So my own asesment is like this: if you really need to walk somewhere and can't find a proper tool to do so, you can use almost anything to comeback, isn't that right? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448317/#p448317 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it electro wrote:arbuz wrote:electro wrote:Wow (interesting). I know it's komplicated and it takes time, but can it be a Dot Walker'ish successor? I'm kinda curious.Guess I have many words corrected dah so in that case if my orthography deserves it the one that the one that the... Oops... Sorry!I onestly didn't get the question I guess. But if you're talking about the developer of Dotwalker PRO, then I can say that we're not related with one another. Or perhaps you wish to know if it works like dotwalker PRO does than I can say that in some ways it does, but in some ways it's not.Wow, thanks for that answer. I mean, for example, forsquare support or something. BTW, I didn't talked with the developer of Dot Walker Pro eaven when he didn't pay google's subscription. I guess he has the source somewhere... but he didn't uploaded in a git platform.Today i'm going to improve an algorithm of redirection to the next point. It works, but my intention to make it better if I can, so we will see what I can acomblish.Furthermore, since this app is based on JS, all the code will be accessible to each and everyone of you if I wouldn't plan to compile it on some platform, but I guess that's rmain to be seen. I'm considering to make this platform totally free, but the biggest gamble is the payment for the server. If some of the users will be able to publish it on their systems if they have some kind of srws, I would be glad to hear from you...To answer to your curiosity about the Forsquare, my intention is to use the same MapQuest API and try to integrate categories of bars, shops, busStops and some others if I'll be able to. I'm planning to do it quickly enough, but we'll see what will folow.` URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448316/#p448316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it arbuz wrote:electro wrote:Wow (interesting). I know it's komplicated and it takes time, but can it be a Dot Walker'ish successor? I'm kinda curious.Guess I have many words corrected dah so in that case if my orthography deserves it the one that the one that the... Oops... Sorry!I onestly didn't get the question I guess. But if you're talking about the developer of Dotwalker PRO, then I can say that we're not related with one another. Or perhaps you wish to know if it works like dotwalker PRO does than I can say that in some ways it does, but in some ways it's not.Wow, thanks for that answer. I mean, for example, forsquare support or something. BTW, I didn't talked with the developer of Dot Walker Pro eaven when he didn't pay google's subscription. I guess he has the source somewhere... but he didn't uploaded in a git platform. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448238/#p448238 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Sounds like a cool concept, I'm an iOS user though, plus, I wouldn't use an app that needed a browser and needed the phone to be unlocked because even with the screen darkened, it would still burn through battery, and it's just one more thing I'm having to hold. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448169/#p448169 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it SLJ wrote:Hi.Wow. I would like to try this as well.Regarding browsers: Google Crome on IOS does work when the screen is locked. It can play podcasts etc. in the background unlike Safari. Maybe you'll find this information useful.Yeah, this info is useful, thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448152/#p448152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Angel wrote:Good luck with this and sure, I would try it, but in small places cause it is weird for me to have my 6 inkes phone in my left hand, in the right the cane and the sunu on the left, the idea of doing this feels abit weird to me.If you could make locking some how touches from the pocket that would be cool, cause I personaly always use a bluetooth headset with these apps.Or I guess you can put your phone in your pocket carefuly, like I do when I listen to music on youtube in class, don't do like I do.Yeah, I know what you mean, however it's not so easy to do it in the browser, because then all the UI freezes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448151/#p448151 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Munawar wrote:Hi,Great work with this! I've never used MapQuest API, only Google Maps API for geolocations. I'd imagine they're pretty similar.If you want to make it cross-platform (your comment on iOS development is noted,) might I suggest Cordova / PhoneGap. https://phonegap.com/andhttps://cordova.apache.org/This is what I've used in the past to make cross-platform mobile applications. The iOS community generally frowns upon it but that's only because you're not coding in whatever their new language is nowadays, and they tend to hate on people a lot. But PhoneGap and Cordova are both mature technologies and have been used enough to be declared "tried and tested."Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely will check it out.Perhaps you wish to help on a development process? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448150/#p448150 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it electro wrote:Wow (interesting). I know it's komplicated and it takes time, but can it be a Dot Walker'ish successor? I'm kinda curious.Guess I have many words corrected dah so in that case if my orthography deserves it the one that the one that the... Oops... Sorry!I onestly didn't get the question I guess. But if you're talking about the developer of Dotwalker PRO, then I can say that we're not related with one another. Or perhaps you wish to know if it works like dotwalker PRO does than I can say that in some ways it does, but in some ways it's not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448149/#p448149 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it hurstseth405 wrote:So I'm wondering can you still use a compass even if your phone doesn't have a cumpass? I have a samsung J3 running android.If you have no compass on your device, you still will be able to use my app, because since you start moving outside, my app gets your current location and tracks it in order to get the direction you're moving and says which direction you're going and which direction you need to go. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448148/#p448148 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it So I'm wondering can you still use a compass even if your phone doesn't have a cumpass? I have a samsung J3 running android. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448143/#p448143 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Hi.Wow. I would like to try this as well.Regarding browsers: Google Crome on IOS does work when the screen is locked. It can play podcasts etc. in the background unlike Safari. Maybe you'll find this information useful. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448129/#p448129 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
2019-07-10
Thread
AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : tysonsylvester123 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it i wood try it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448061/#p448061 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Good luck with this and sure, I would try it, but in small places cause it is weird for me to have my 6 inkes phone in my left hand, in the right the cane and the sunu on the left, the idea of doing this feels abit weird to me.If you could make locking some how touches from the pocket that would be cool, cause I personaly always use a bluetooth headset with these apps.Or I guess you can put your phone in your pocket carefuly, like I do when I listen to music on youtube in class, don't do like I do. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448058/#p448058 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Well if I'm giving my opinion here, I'd say that I would try such app, and I don't know how to feel about the hole web thing. I'd personally like an app better. But I'd definitely try it. I do wish you good luck with this app. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448046/#p448046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it What a cool concept. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448045/#p448045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Hi,Great work with this! I've never used MapQuest API, only Google Maps API for geolocations. I'd imagine they're pretty similar.If you want to make it cross-platform (your comment on iOS development is noted,) might I suggest Cordova / PhoneGap. https://phonegap.com/andhttps://cordova.apache.org/This is what I've used in the past to make cross-platform mobile applications. The iOS community generally frowns upon it but that's only because you're not coding in whatever their new language is nowadays, and they tend to hate on people a lot. But PhoneGap and Cordova are both mature technologies and have been used enough to be declared "tried and tested." URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448040/#p448040 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
Re: BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Wow (interesting). I know it's komplicated and it takes time, but can it be a Dot Walker'ish successor? I'm kinda curious.Guess I have many words corrected dah so in that case if my orthography deserves it the one that the one that the... Oops... Sorry! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448035/#p448035 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it
BlindWalk, a new navigation app is on the way if you would need it Hello,For a quick start, there is a quick podcast to see what's coming if you need it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oh05y6a4un8b2 … k.mp3?dl=1I know this is not the highest quality navigation app for the blind around, but anyway, I think I'll share my idea with all of you.Some time ago I created an app called Walk helper for blind. It was a simple application where you were able to save your own points and then get direction by clock and compass towards them. I lost my source code and decided to let it go... But I really need an application that would be able to tel directions by clock, cardinal directions (east, northwest etc.) and of course, go forward slight left 122 meeters... I mean - just a simple human language where the next point is and when to turn afterwards.I was looking for an option to get something at least for the smartwatch to help me find a way towards the see shore, but many of the apps are useless for such a purpose on the watch. Then easy, but the same way - sharp mind came to my head - why not to try to use browsers functionality for this task? There is an GEOLocation API already supported on many browsers, so I wrote simple _javascript_ code to get the location and it was with a really high GPS accuracy - 30 meeters or even more... Then I read the documentation carefully and got it around with 3 meeters ;D it's fine now. But Samsung smartwatch was quickly forgotten because of it's inaccessible WEB browser... Perhaps you know the watch which has an accessible browser or it could be installed by the way? If you do, please let me know.Another problem, which I wasn't able to solve last time when I created Walk helper for blind was the turn-by-turn navigation / guidance function. Now I did a bit of research and found out about MapQuest API, which is based on Open Street Maps and it gives turn-by-turn instructions from the server through HTTP request, so few AJAX requests and wow, we got what we needed...Then I turned on my server and as an additional security, in order to be able to get user's location (even by his or her own permition), it still requires to have an SSL (HTTPS) layer to request for a permition. Installed the SSL and it works By going forward I managed to create working algorithm to walk across the points and get instructions on the screen and read by TTS. Some as well may say it's impossible on the web, however we can use ARIA (accessible rich internet applications) standard and screen readr speaks what do we tell it to say By walking outside I thaught the compass is what I need to be happy now... Yes, there was the biggest problem in this simple and dirty project... Compass was like mission impossible to me... I got alpha, beta and gamma values by listenning to orientationChange event and then calculated the compass heading, however after some Googling and physical testing on a real device, I realized that the data which is coming from a hardware implementation is inaccurate, because these days web is coming the way as all the ogmentid reality goes, so the initial point that is considered to be 0 is the point, which was fixed at the moment when the JS code requested deviceOrientation for the first time when page was loaded... Oh, it's the nightmare... Some time ago, browsers had another value - an absolute alpha, which pointed to the true north / bearing, but not now... Deep in the shadows of the web I found that Google Chrome V50+ lets to access this absolute alpha value by requesting it other way, which is not the standart, but supported on android. So I solved the compass problem by doing some math and we came to a phase where there are results like these:1. Turn-by-turn navigation by entering an address or well known location;2. Direction towards the next turn by clock, geographical and easy humanized form - on your left, on your right, slightly on your right behind...;3. Distance in meters and kilometers;4. Moovement speed;5. GPS accuracy;6. Route preview - to get an instructions just to help you to imagine where you would need to go if you would. Some of the instructions report the maneuvers more explanatory than just turn left or right;7. Compass (cardinal directions - east, west and degrees). Additionally it does another important function as well - you can spin your device around and when it points straight towards the direction you need to go, it vibrates in some pattern. Then if you point your device to the wrong direction afther that, it vibrates in another pattern to let you know. You can turn on or off your compass on the main routing menu all the time.8. TTS says what to do in each 30 meters.It's still an experimental version / prototype, because actually I'm working only less than a week around this project yet. Yes, there are main conciderations so far:1. An application would work on the web, so you don't need to install any software, any updates, just to remember website address.2.
