Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
2021-03-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mmaslo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 I have the playstation 5 and will have to try it out. Anytime I have been playing, it is with headset son URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/623222/#p623222 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 Hi.Thanks for your great post. I hope that'll make a difference, not only regarding to Madden, but to other games as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/623156/#p623156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 I know that Kitchensinc NFL is a basic games. However it is fully accessible for the blind.I do wish Jim would have added some extra features to the game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/623151/#p623151 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
2021-03-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : gorvachov13 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 But guys on ps5 apparently there are amazing haptics for madden, when i get it i'll report. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/623149/#p623149 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 I am 100 percent in agreement with post 1. I have talked with sighted friends who play the Madden games.I have brought these things up to them. They agree that EA needs to improve the accessibility. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/623150/#p623150 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
2021-03-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Zatoichi702 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 Thank you! Thank you! This email sums of all of my frustrations with the madden franchise! Is there anyway we can get a change.org petition started to get accessibility improved in this game? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/623144/#p623144 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 I find it hilarious that EA focuses on Ultimate Team so much, yet that mode is totally inaccessible to us because of the lack of menu narration reading the goals for solos, and the complete inaccessibility of the auction house. I've talked to some sighted players, and they have said that without the auction house, MUT is unplayable. Not having the auction house is a huge deal. So EA's main mode that they focus on, they couldn't even get accessibility right with that one.Haptik feedback is the way to go to correct all of the accessibility issues on the field in my opinion, because first, it is the easiest to code. It is much easier to code vibration events than to try to get menu narration to read crap. Secondly, menu narration reads at such a slow pace that realistically we wouldn't be able to do things quickly enough. But vibration feedback is much quicker. The only thing that menu narration would need to read is the position of the player that was highlighted when pressing the B button to cycle through personnel, and that wouldn't take that long, and the audible menu. The hot routes menu would either need to be read, or you could assign each type of route a vibration pattern, e.g., a quick tap for an in route, two quick taps for a slant route, a short rumble for drag route, a longer rumble for a streak route, etc.The thing is, even if all of the outside menus like choosing teams, or drafts, or rosters, read 100% perfectly in every mode, none of that matters once two teams actually take the field and the game starts. The focus really, really needs to be on accessibility on the field, because even if I can do everything I want with a team outside of a game, if I don't know how to run my plays correctly, or I can't tell who is covered or who is open after the ball is snapped, I cannot compete. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/623064/#p623064 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
Re: Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 EA not addressing bugs or feagures but cramming in lootboxes/focusing on Ultimate Team/other ways to nickel and dime players?Shocker. I mean. The Madden community at large has known EA's not touched bugs for years, or they patch a bug and create ten more then add in a shiny new feature or recycle one from the PS3 gen to slap on the box and sell units (see the X-factor/Superstar stuf for instance or the Yard)EA being very fucking blunt, do the bare minimum and are actually being sued for it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622881/#p622881 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22
Madden 21 Accessibility: Much Work Still Needed, Hopes for 22 I am going to post a message that I sent to EA, both on the accessibility forum as well as the public Madden forums. I also sent this in an email to the accessibility team. I am posting it here so that everyone here may read it and give feedback, and also in case Karen Stevens or anyone in that team happens to visit this forum to look for feedback from us related to Madden 22, as they are working on that now. If they look here, I hope that they will see this message. This is what I wrote:My name is Jody McKinniss. I am a 42-year-old totally blind individual who has loved technology and games for my entire life. I have owned gaming consoles since the days of the Atari and NES. For decades those of us with disabilities have gone either completely unnoticed or have been shunned by the gaming industry. That is beginning to change, however, with recent trends toward inclusion by developers such as EA, Naughty Dog, and Ubisoft.I began taking a serious look at EA with the release of the franchise's Madden 19 title. At that time, menu narration was not yet a thing, but we at least were being noticed as a subset of the player base, and we were being included in plans for the release of the next title. I was also pleased that Mr. Andrew Wilson's vision for the company took a "player first" approach. Madden 20 brought menu narration to the table. It felt wonderful to be able to access a game without having to use imperfect and clunky workarounds, or even worse, to have to try to find sighted assistance to do the simplest of things. There were still definite holes in accessibility and things that needed to be fixed within menu narration and huge gaps that needed to be filled in terms of on-field accessibility, but I was overall pleased with the foundation that had been laid, and I eagerly awaited the release of Madden 21.Madden 21 was released, and I was extremely disappointed to learn that nothing within accessibility had been addressed, except for turning on in-game menu narration on the latest Microsoft and Sony console VERSIONS OF THE GAME so that playbooks and a few other things are now read for those of us who are blind. Previously seen bugs or holes in narration were not addressed. Other gaps in accessibility that are not directly tied to narration were also left untouched.Therefore, I am writing this to shed light on existing bugs within menu narration and to bring to the forefront other massive gaps within accessibility that continue to render Madden at least 50% (though the case could be made for a higher number given how much time is spent in game) unplayable by those of us without sight. I do this with the hope that these issues will be addressed for the release of Madden 22. I will lay out the issues in an orderly fashion and will provide possible solutions where I can.IN-GAME:Accessibility is nonexistent in an actual game environment, except for extremely limited menu narration (applicable to Microsoft Series S/X and Sony PS5 versions) that allows us to navigate the play call menus. Even with this limited additional information that narration provides, the disparity between the totality of information that we receive both on and off the field and that which our sighted counterparts receive is so massive that it is the main reason that Madden is still at least 50% unplayable for us. Let us begin our examination by first looking at the play call menu, where plays are chosen and other things such as substitutions can be done:• MENU NARRATION PROVIDES NAMES, BUT NO SUPPORTING INFORMATION WITHIN THE PLAY CALL MENU:With menu narration, I can navigate to "formation," and I can navigate to my desired formation, e.g., "Gun Trips TE," but I am given no other information, such as how the formation is laid out in terms of spacing, number and type of personnel, etc.This applies to plays as well. If I select the "Gun Bunch TE" formation, I can then see that I have plays that are named "Double In Sail," "Inside Zone," "PA Shot Post," etc. However, I get no information about the plays themselves. Let's take the "Double In Sail" pass play as our working example.When a person with vision navigates to this play, they are presented with a picture that shows them the number of receivers, which side of the field each receiver is on, the routes of the receivers, and the button assignments of each receiver. None of that information is conveyed to us through menu narration. We are simply told the name of the play. That is all we get. This leaves us totally in the dark about which routes are available to us, which receivers are running those routes, or how to target the receiver we want (button assignments).Running plays such as "Inside Zone" are the same. Players with vision can see the flow of their blockers, whether they have a pulling
Re: Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing
2021-02-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mmaslo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing I will be able to test it out Monday. My unit will be here then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/614572/#p614572 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing
2021-02-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing The one thing I do know is that the game's telling you what wr/TE is open for a catch when it tells you the button prompts. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Any new franchise narration updates? I need to watch that video. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/614543/#p614543 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing
2021-02-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Shinobi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing There is a youtube video that Brandon Cole made that explains the different things changed in Madden 21. Its a long vid though, so I'd take some time to watch it, but it should help you try to see what is going on. Aside from that, I don't know as I don't yet have a next gen console. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/614465/#p614465 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing
2021-02-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : sightlessHorseman via Audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 next gen questions regarding haptic cues and playing Hey everyone.To not derail the other topic, I am creating a new one because I have some questions regarding madden 21. Please note beforehand that I am only looking for advice on the next gen versions of the game and am not interested in the ps4 or xBox one versions.I purchased the game on the ps5 and while it runs pritty smoothly, I am abit confused by the now new vibration cues and playbook announcements.firstly, the coach suggestions, as far as I can see, you can still select other suggestions with the square and triangle buttons, but unless I am missing something integral, those suggestions are not announced, not even if the play will be a running or a passing play.How do you players do that?Next thing, regarding passing. When I throw a pass, the game starts announcing buttons that I guess I could press to throw the ball, but I already passed the ball to another player, so why is it giving me button prompts when the ball is already in the air?And the last thing, vibrations.I set up the vibrations to assist, but the cues for running and passing seam to be totally different now. I sometimes don't een get any real feetbac at the start of a down, where it would normaly be a short vibration for a run and a longer one for an upcoming pass play, I mostly receive short vibrations and that's it.The same with defence, I honestly don't know what to press when the controler vibrates and the new haptic options of the PS5 don't make it easier.The thing is, I played madden 18 and madden 20, so I theoreticaly should know what is going on on the field, but this thing is majorly confusing me right now.does someone have any tips regarding the game?greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/614438/#p614438 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt
2021-02-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : barbossa88 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt JLove wrote:For this, you want to move the left stick until the vibration is gone. The harder the vibration, the further away from the target you are. So you want to position the stick so that there's no vibration, then start your kick.ok. but I have a question. to day I was playng and I had to realized a field goal from the 55 yard. I started to move the stick up and down but the controller didn't vibrate, but when I move left and right it constantly vibrate hard. I move it a long but nothing change. I move again up, but I didn't have vibration, so I started to kick but it failed. my question is: what about the constant vibration whan I move left and right? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/614396/#p614396 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt
2021-02-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt uh? Play formations? Don't quite understand what you mean by defensive cues. Are you playing the next gen version? If so, how is the narration? You can find the controls right here:https://realsport101.com/madden/madden- … mate-team/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/614280/#p614280 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt
2021-02-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : sightlessHorseman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt Hey, while we are at it, could someone quickly tell me what defensive cues are there again?For example to block a run or pass attempt and possibly intercept a pass.I am playing on PS5.I remember that there was some kind of guide for madden 18, but I guess that it's quite out of date.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/614264/#p614264 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt
2021-02-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt Oh wow, I never knew that. Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613292/#p613292 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt For this, you want to move the left stick until the vibration is gone. The harder the vibration, the further away from the target you are. So you want to position the stick so that there's no vibration, then start your kick. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613149/#p613149 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt
Re: Madden 21 and the field goal attempt FOr this, you want to move the left stick until the vibration is gone. The harder the vibration, the further away from the target you are. So you want to position the stick so that there's no vibration, then start your kick. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/613149/#p613149 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 and the field goal attempt
2021-02-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : barbossa88 via Audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 and the field goal attempt I guys, can someone explane to me how can I realized a field goal attempt in Madden 21 for ps4? my problem is to put the ball over the crossbar. I have to move the left stick to give the rigth direction to the ball? When I move the left stick my controller start to vibrate hard when I move from left to right, and soft when I move up. I don't understend!!! please help me! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/612721/#p612721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: help with playing Madden 21 online with friends
2021-02-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: help with playing Madden 21 online with friends Need more information. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611747/#p611747 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
help with playing Madden 21 online with friends
help with playing Madden 21 online with friends Hello,Me and a friend are having problems playing against each other online with Madden 21. We both are using Xbox one and have a subscription to gold.I sent him a invite to play a game with me. However when he tries to accept my game invite he can not join. How can we fix this issue. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611724/#p611724 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all
2021-01-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all Origin.My thoughts on this game are as follows:The yard's cool for like 5 minutes.Mut's basically inaccessible now.Franchise has almost 0 updates and is as shallow as ever.Presentation and commentary suck. I was playing the nfc championship game between the Packers and Bucks and after the two minute warning Brandon Gaudin was like "In a bit we'll take you to Orlando where the coach will start to look ahead to super bole 53". There are only like 10 new lines for the commentators. The halftime shows are the same.Superstar KO's fun, but EA hasn't updated it since it came out.Over all I'm really really glad I didn't buy this game. Fantasy draft seams to be gone as well.Rating: 1.5/10 because EA's still improving accessibility. Without it the game would be a solid 0.1/10. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611168/#p611168 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all
2021-01-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all Origin.My thoughts on this game are as follows:The yard's cool for like 5 minutes.Mut's basically inaccessible now.Franchise has almost 0 updates and is as shallow as ever.Presentation and commentary suck. I was playing the nfc championship game between the Packers and Bucks and after the two minute warning Brandon Gaudin was like "In a bit we'll take you to Orlando where the coach will start to look ahead to super bole 53". There are only like 10 new lines for the commentators. The halftime shows are the same.Superstar KO's fun, but EA hasn't updated it since it came out.Over all I'm really really glad I didn't buy this game. Fantasy draft seams to be gone as well.Rating: 1.5/10 because EA's still improving accessibility. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611168/#p611168 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all
2021-01-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Quentin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all Where can I get it for my pc?I don't use steam URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611053/#p611053 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all
2021-01-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : JayJay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all Wonder if it will run on my 3520m URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610915/#p610915 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all
2021-01-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all • OS: Windows 10.• Processor (AMD): Athlon X4 880K @4GHz or better.• Processor (Intel): Core i3-6100 @3.7GHz or better.• Memory: 8GB.• Graphics Card (AMD): Radeon RX 460 or Equivalent.• Graphics Card (Nvidia): GeForce GTX 670 or Equivalent.• DirectX: 11. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610897/#p610897 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all
2021-01-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : gorvachov13 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: madden 21 free for all what are the minimum pc requirements? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610889/#p610889 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
madden 21 free for all
2021-01-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : smoothgunner via Audiogames-reflector
madden 21 free for all as a pro bowl gift, EA is giving a free trial to everyone, on all platforms, from now until feb1. this also includes pc. so people have fun, and don't forget to turn on accessibility in the options. I think the play book only reads on the xbox series, and ps5 unfortunately URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610791/#p610791 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Help with 3 settings in Madden 21
2021-01-28
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Addolis via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Help with 3 settings in Madden 21 Hello,What these settings have to do with is whether or not you wish to have superstar xfactors enabled for players that have the desired developement raidings.These settings also allow you to customize the raiding requirements for the xfacotr or zone abilities to take affect. THey do not affect your game play overall however, and you can leave them at their default settings.Also, a tip for you when playing on defense. Make sure under visual feedback, that your camera toggle is set to off, and your defensive cam is set to defensive perspective.THis is because on defense left right up, and down are reversed normally. This is because the field is still viewed with the offense closest to you, otherwise. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610742/#p610742 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Help with 3 settings in Madden 21
Help with 3 settings in Madden 21 Hello,I need help with 3 settings in Madden 21. The settings are in the league settings when you are setting up your franchise.They are the following. Desire x-factor dev, desire superstar dev players, desire star dev players.If someone could explain what are these settings that would be great. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610678/#p610678 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Hi.I don't have the PS 5, but I can confirm that the store is now accessible. To see it in action, check out this video URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610022/#p610022 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : THEHANDOFTHRON via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 I don't think it could do that stuff at all on the ps4 wich is why I am asking, i really want a Sony system for the Last of us 2, and Godzilla. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609910/#p609910 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : THEHANDOFTHRON via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 So I intend on getting both new gen systems, I want to know if the ps5 can finally read apps and the market place? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609908/#p609908 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Addolis via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 I honestly have no idea on that front, as I do not have a PS 5 or xbox series s/x. Yes, I too have questions about the other catagories such as formation, playtype, concept, etc. I also want to know if it reads all 3 plays, as each tile has 3 plays usually, such as y = pa-power o, x = bench and a equals titans bench. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609734/#p609734 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Ok, so after watching Brandon's video, I have some questions:1. Are only plays within coach suggestions read? Brandon never explored the other menus, e.g., formations, type, etc. All plays he chose were strictly within coach suggestions. I prefer to choose plays by type or formation, as I wish to have a higher level of control.2. It seems as though plays are read (at least from coach suggestions). If they're read from any menu like type or formation or personnel, that will be great. But what about the actual playbook screen itself that you navigate to via the main menu, outside of an actual on-field situation, where you can customize your playbook between games, add or remove plays, set audibles, etc.? Is that read as well? 3. Are audibles read? Before the ball is snapped, if I wish to audible to a different play/formation, is that read to me so that I know what I'm choosing?4. Are other things read in this version that weren't read in 20? Things that immediately come to mind are the auction house in Ultimate team (which is crucial if you really want to succeed), or the instructions of an ultimate team challenge, or the instructions that you get when in practice/training mode that tell you what you need to do to proceed with a given task.5. What about online play? Are plays read even when in online play against another opponent? That would certainly be a good thing.I noticed that reading was suspended during the story for face of the franchise, which really doesn't make any sense to me. So I wouldn't put it past them to disable it for online play as well.These are just a few questions that didn't seem to be covered in his video. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609362/#p609362 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Ok, so after watching Brandon's video, I have some questions:1. Are only plays within coach suggestions read? Brandon never explored the other menus, e.g., formations, type, etc. All plays he chose were strictly within coach suggestions. I prefer to choose plays by type or formation, as I wish to have a higher level of control.2. It seems as though plays are read (at least from coach suggestions). If they're read from any menu like type or formation or personnel, that will be great. But what about the actual playbook screen itself that you navigate to via the main menu, outside of an actual on-field situation, where you can customize your playbook between games, add or remove plays, set audibles, etc.? Is that read as well? 3. Are audibles read? Before the ball is snapped, if I wish to audible to a different play/formation, is that read to me so that I know what I'm choosing?4. Are other things read in this version that weren't read in 20? Things that immediately come to mind are the auction house in Ultimate team (which is crucial if you really want to succeed), or the instructions of an ultimate team challenge, or the instructions that you get when in practice/training mode that tell you what you need to do to proceed with a given task.5. What about online play? Are plays read even when in online play against another opponent?These are just a few questions that didn't seem to be covered in his video. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609362/#p609362 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Ok, so after watching Brandon's video, I have some questions:1. Are only plays within coach suggestions read? Brandon never explored the other menus, e.g., formations, type, etc. All plays he chose were strictly within coach suggestions. I prefer to choose plays by type or formation, as I wish to have a higher level of control.2. It seems as though plays are read (at least from coach suggestions). If they're read from any menu like type or formation or personnel, that will be great. But what about the actual playbook screen itself that you navigate to via the main menu, outside of an actual on-field situation, where you can customize your playbook between games, add or remove plays, set audibles, etc.? Is that read as well? 3. Are audibles read? Before the ball is snapped, if I wish to audible to a different play/formation, is that read to me so that I know what I'm choosing?4. Are other things read in this version that weren't read in 20? Things that immediately come to mind are the auction house in Ultimate team (which is crucial if you really want to succeed), or the instructions that you get when in practice mode that tell you what you need to do to proceed?5. What about online play? Are plays read even when in online play against another opponent?These are just a few questions that didn't seem to be covered in his video. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609362/#p609362 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 @13, brandon did demonstrate the new accessibility features of madden 21 on his twitch channel. you can check it out if you want. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609201/#p609201 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 @11,Are there any videos showing the playbooks being read, or did you just hear via word of mouth? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609193/#p609193 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21
2021-01-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21 I get a blocked kick or 2 even on all maddden in 20, however 0 of my kicks have ever ever been AI blocked.A question though, How'd you guys block kicks in madden 20. I just dive blocked/jumpblock them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/608040/#p608040 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21 I get a blocked kick or 2 even on all mamdden in 20, however 0 of my kicks have ever ever been AI blocked. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/608040/#p608040 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Hi.A question for those who have Madden 21 and a Ps5: Does the tutorials read? Or is it still like Madden 20, where the tutorials aren't read. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/608034/#p608034 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21 Isn't blocking kicks supposed to be really difficult in the nfl anyway? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/608032/#p608032 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Addolis via Audiogames-reflector
Re: blocking kicks in madden 21 Okay, so the same technique still applies in Madden 21. BUt the folks at EA decided in their moments of brilliants, to make it more difficult to do so based on community feedback. Hmm, I always find that the community that they are talking about isn't ours. Because now, it's practically impossible. I have not managed it yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/608028/#p608028 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Addolis via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Yes, According to what little I have seen on Madden, on the PS 5 not only do the playbooks read, but the button prompts for performing ball carrier moves also read. Sadly this functionally will not work on older consoles. Yes, the PS5 is fully accessible to someone who is blind. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/608027/#p608027 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : igggggoreha via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 i use english without problems. in russian psstore work well URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607973/#p607973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
blocking kicks in madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : coldshadow via Audiogames-reflector
blocking kicks in madden 21 Subject pretty much says it all, but does anyone know how you block kicks such as field goals and such in madden 21? I used to know how to do it in 20, but that method doesn't seem to work now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607928/#p607928 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play?
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : seb2314 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play? The playbook is only accessible for the next-gen version of the game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607883/#p607883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play?
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play? This explanes basically everything about the controls:https://www.ea.com/able/resources/madde … ext-manual URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607827/#p607827 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : arturminyazev via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 helloan other cool feature not available in Russia sadly URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607826/#p607826 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : arturminyazev via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 helloan other cool feature not available in Russia :sad URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607826/#p607826 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play?
2021-01-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : barbossa88 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play? I know the rules of football, but my question is: how can I choose a play? my question how to play means: witch button I have to press. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607823/#p607823 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play?
2021-01-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21, how to play? You have to call either running or passing plays if you're on offense. There are different kinds of formations, screen passes, different plays and all that fancy stuff. Learn the rules of american football before attemting to play the game because you'll have no idea what you're doing if you don't. There is a long vibration if you've called a passing play, a short one if you called a running one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607807/#p607807 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Madden 21, how to play?
2021-01-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : barbossa88 via Audiogames-reflector
Madden 21, how to play? I! yesterday i've bought Madden 21 for ps4! it's great! but I wwoul'd like to know how I can play. for example: there is a way to change the member in my lineup? another question it's about playing douring a match: i've read in the guide that it's not necessary to move the sti, it's thrue? Can someone showme the key's that I have to use for example to run, pass etch etch? the only list that I have found it's the official guide, but it show the picture of the controller, but I didn't find a list. Tantx!! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607801/#p607801 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : barbossa88 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 I boys!! thanx to everybody! yesterday I've talk about it with a persno that works on a shop, and he toldme that the italian is support!! great! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607799/#p607799 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : igggggoreha via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 hello. screen reader support english us,uk spanish,french,italian, japonis,doich URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607747/#p607747 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Hi.The screenreader supports other languages than English, but I haven't found an official list to confirm what languages it supports. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607627/#p607627 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Hi.I also saw this videoHe goes through setup, and he uses the screen reader. He does cut some parts out, but for anyone who is interested in what setup looks like, here you go URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607580/#p607580 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 From what I've heard some playbooks read in the ps5/x version. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607463/#p607463 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 Hello.For PS 5 accessibility information, have a look at this video by Brandon ColeAs for Madden 21 accessibility, I have not played it, but from what I've heard not much has changed between 20 and 21 as far as accessibility is concerned URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607462/#p607462 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : TheTrueSwampGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 so from what I iknow, the screen reader is available in english, at least different variants, and can be enabled on non-US versions of the PS5, leading me to believe that it at least has Spanish support, but probably a lot more. I haven't played the madden games, they aren't my type of game. I have a ps5, and it works wonderfully. non Sony apps are a bit janky and most don't have any screen reader support at all, but Sony is striving to make even more adjustments and might make that a required thing as they are really pushing towards this full accessibility thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607447/#p607447 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21
2021-01-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : barbossa88 via Audiogames-reflector
ps5 screenreader... languages available, and madden 21 I boys, i'm an italian blind player, and I've read about the screenreader on ps5. I've a question about it: someone of you knows in witch language the screenreader it's available? i've tryed to search in internet, but I didn't find enithing. My dream is to buy a ps5. Another question it's about madden 21. it's the game accessible like madden 20? at the moment I have a ps4. Thanx to everyone! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607421/#p607421 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 question
2020-12-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 question Just get 20 on Ebay for like 10 bucks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/600472/#p600472 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 question
2020-12-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : seb2314 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 question If you're on Xbox1 or ps4, please do yourself a favor and read this before you consider getting this game:http://www.brandoncole.net/?p=445Apparently, playbooks are narrated for the ps5 and the new Xbox version. If after reading this article you still want to get this game, go with the standard version. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/600470/#p600470 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 question
2020-12-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : bryant via Audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 question Hi, so I am planning on getting madden 21 for Christmas, but I had a question. In terms of accessibility, does it matter which version I get because there appears to be two versions, standard and deluxe. What is the difference, if any, accessibility wise. Will both games be equally accessible? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/600468/#p600468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound
2020-11-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound True. And the game's gonna cost 70 bucks on ps5 and Xbox x. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/592605/#p592605 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound
2020-11-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : sightlessHorseman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound Well it's certainly a step in the right direction, but it doesn't iron out any of the other bugs that are in the game.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/592586/#p592586 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound
2020-11-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound Really sorry for trippleposting, but is the yard accessible or not? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/592585/#p592585 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound
2020-11-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound Update: The guy was recording on ps4 and @Ea_accessible tweated this:"An incorrect update briefly went out with it on PS4 with PS5 code enabled. As it can cause game instability on PS4 the mistake was quickly corrected. We apologize for any confusion this caused." URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/592546/#p592546 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound
2020-11-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Aron Leppik via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 update In-game narration and a new play Clock sound Well that, kinda sucks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/592535/#p592535 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. Heya,I'm going to be blunt here. Even if EA would have done a complete accessibility overhaul, everything reads and is 100 percent accessible, Madden 21 is still a game I wouldn't purchase.firstly because it is bugged beyond anything else, it's basically a roster update for 60 dollars which could be sold for 20, and at each and every corner you get loored into ultimate team and pay with real cash.So, I might be the minority here, but unless madden changes, I'm out, no matter tha´e accessibility leaps.Greetings moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/567445/#p567445 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 help
2020-08-28
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mmaslo1124 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 help Hi may I ask what modes offer the ability to turn off the play timer? Could you do this on rookie experience level or where? Any help would be appreciated. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/565359/#p565359 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 help
2020-08-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Addolis via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 help In franchise mode you can't turn it off, the best you can do is extend it to it's max time allowed. YOu can do this under the league options tab. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564560/#p564560 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. With Madden not getting any updates this year, I expect absolutely nothing for either NHL or Fifa. I'm just going to move ahead to next year. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564329/#p564329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. We still have Fifa 21 and nhl 21 coming up this year, so it's not quite over yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564328/#p564328 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. Sure, but the facade design pattern is software engineering 101. Expose two functions: speak(text, interrupt = true) so you can speak messages, and stop() to interrupt speech on keypresses if needed. Write those two functions, plus initialization code, for all supported accessible platforms. Conditionally compile in those function implementations based on the platform. Since you're only on consoles, and not something like Android where third-party TTS engines can and do behave in widely different ways, the backends should be fairly easy to write and debug. And on platforms that don't include TTS, Pico almost certainly works or is easy to port, though admittedly it does suck. I really don't think the cloud-based service is any easier. They're still writing platform-specific code to dispatch the API calls, only now they've got a server to run, secure, patch, etc. And while I'm sure they have cross-platform code in place to do API calls, they probably *didn't* have code to pipe the returned data into an audio channel, so there's even more code they've written. Obviously I've simplified things a great deal, and have only written code that theoretically runs on the Xbox. But I don't think they've saved themselves any work punting (har har) this problem to the cloud, and as you've noted, the result is inferior.I really wish there was some way for blind developers to work for these companies as developers rather than as testers, and to actually encourage sensible development practices. I imagine someone thought this would be an easy way to implement TTS, and that someone isn't a blind player themselves, so they don't get how the terrible pronunciation or gaps in coverage make the game a frustrating experience. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564170/#p564170 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. 29:I think it's because they would then have to roll separate code for each console. they took the path of least resistance for TTS which is unfortunate as this cloud-based system is just not a good idea on so many levels. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564153/#p564153 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. Not that I'm excusing lack of accessibility progress, but another thing to consider here is that Madden isn't like other games. It's easy to say "Build accessibility in from the start," but I don't imagine they're rewriting Madden from scratch each year. They're probably packaging the previous year's engine up with new stats, and maybe refactoring and tweaking certain subsystems based on feedback. But I'd not be surprised if there's code in Madden 21 that's been around since relatively ancient versions, including for consoles where speech synthesis wouldn't have been possible. Compare that to something like TLOU2. They may reuse models, and almost certainly reuse a core engine for all similar IPs. But they've got a multi-year dev cycle focused on just that one game. They aren't perpetually iterating on an engine they've already built that runs football games well, and trying to work in accessibility. Naughty Dog can also substantially change the rules of the game to favor accessibility--invisible-while-prone, for instance. You're kind of limited in how you can change football for accessibility before it stops being football, and definitely disqualifies you from online play.That said, super disappointing that we don't have playbook narration. I thought that, at least, was a shoe-in. Also unclear why they aren't using at least the Xbox's built-in speech. Given that runs on Windows Mobile as well, I don't imagine the CPU requirements are terribly high. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564144/#p564144 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. @JLove: Actually, I would not assume that accessibility workers being moved to other parts of the game development cycle is an afterthought. Are you forgetting that a lot of companies are cutting their budget almost entirely in terms of new-hire recruitment? Or they were for a time, I'd say between March/May. And again, the fact that a new console is getting released is another thing to consider. Honestly the fact that they didn't hold out until 22 is amusing considering there's practically no solidly dependable sports seasons this year, but then again they have investors, publishers and customers to satisfy. Let the record show again that all the accessibility work for TLOU2 was implemented before Covid hit. Most of the game was made before Covid hit. Let's not speculate any further about EA and until they come out and release a statement, let's just call this year a writeoff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564136/#p564136 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
2020-08-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available. @26 after tlou2, people won't really be abel to get away with half-assing a11y anymore. The bar has been permanently raised, and a new standard has been introduced. From now on, people who say they care about a11y but then half-ass it like EA did will get called out on it, and this time, it'll be for a good reason. Because putting in spotty narration or a few rumble cues is no longer a baby step forward, as we used to say. Since tlou2, things like this are giant leaps backward. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564076/#p564076 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. @25Just further proof in my opinion that Naughty Dog actually takes accessibility seriously. They built it in from day one. That takes a lot of effort. It says to me that they were truly serious about it, and will probably remain serious about it moving forward, as it gives them something to work with on a fundamental level for future titles. I feel like these companies that try to add it in at the last minute as a token afterthought are playing at it, doing nothing more than pandering for public relations hype. That will be the interesting thing to me, whether companies actually learn from Naughty Dog and begin to take it seriously now that true achievement in the area has been shown, or whether it remains nothing more than a hobby and a public relations afterthought to them. Gamers with disabilities, no matter what those disabilities happen to be,, deserve to be more than an afterthought, and improvements to accessibility shouldn't be immediately tossed on the trash pile at the first sign of trouble or delay during development. Just my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564026/#p564026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. @25Just further proof in my opinion that Naughty Dog actually takes accessibility seriously. They built it in from day one. That takes a lot of effort. It says to me that they were truly serious about it, and will probably remain serious about it moving forward, as it gives them something to work with on a fundamental level for future titles. I feel like these companies that try to add it in at the last minute as a token afterthought are playing at it, doing nothing more than pandering for public relations hype. That will be the interesting thing to me, whether companies actually learn from Naughty Dog and begin to take it seriously, or whether it remains nothing more than a hobby and a public relations afterthought to them. Gamers with disabilities, no matter what those disabilities happen to be,, deserve to be more than an afterthought, and improvements to accessibility shouldn't be immediately tossed on the trash pile at the first sign of trouble or delay during development. Just my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564026/#p564026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. @25Just further proof in my opinion that Naughty Dog actually takes accessibility seriously. They built it in from day one. That says to me that they were truly serious about it, and will probably remain serious about it moving forward. I feel like these companies that try to add it in at the last minute as a token afterthought are playing at it, doing nothing more than pandering for public relations hype. That will be the interesting thing to me, whether companies actually learn from Naughty Dog and begin to take it seriously, or whether it remains nothing more than a hobby and a public relations afterthought to them. Gamers with disabilities, no matter what those disabilities happen to be,, deserve to be more than an afterthought, and improvements to accessibility shouldn't be the first thing tossed on the trash pile at the first sign of trouble during development. Just my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/564026/#p564026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 help
2020-08-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ThirdEyeAccess via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 help You should be able to turn it off under the customize tab, in settings and in the games settings section; also when setting up a game in the exhibition mode after you select your team you can arrow down and turn the play clock off also URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563986/#p563986 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 help
2020-08-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mmaslo1124 via Audiogames-reflector
Madden 21 help Hello list everyone I was wondering if anyone could teln me how to turn off the play clock and what modes it is available on please? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563878/#p563878 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. 24:Keep in mind that all the accessibility work was done before Covid.naughty Dog made a very intelligent decision by including accessibility as an integral part of their engine instead of doing what every company (EA, Microsoft, ETC) as done which is add it on top of an already existing system.We'll never know what EA's reasoning or lack of reasoning was until someone over there speaks up. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that people who were assigned to accessibility were reassigned to oher parts of the game.I've got my sights set on next year, so. here's hoping. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563818/#p563818 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed. I won't be buying 21. I see no point. If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out something much more accessible than Madden. So I sort of feel like anything that EA might offer as reasoning would be an excuse. One thing Naughty Dog has done is to show that it can be done, that a game can have multifaceted, immersive accessibility without detracting from the playability. They have raised the bar. It's now up to other companies if they want to bring their standards up or not. I guess EA does not, at least at the moment. That's fine. They will either decide to take accessibility seriously, to make it more than a hobbyist priority, or they won't. Until they make that choice, I'll save my money. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563788/#p563788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed. I won't be buying 21. I see no point. If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out something much more accessible than Madden. So I sort of feel like anything that EA might offer as reasoning would be an excuse. One thing Naughty Dog has done is to show that it can be done, that a game can have multifaceted, immersive accessibility without detracting from the playability. They have raised the bar. It's now up to other companies if they want to bring their standards up or not. I guess EA does not, at least at the moment. That's fine. But I'll save my money in that case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563788/#p563788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed. I won't be buying 21. I see no point. If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out something much more accessible than Madden. So I sort of feel like anything that EA might offer as reasoning would be an excuse. One thing Naughty Dog has done is to show that it can be done, that a game can have multifaceted, immersive accessibility. They have raised the bar. It's now up to other companies if they want to bring their standards up or not. I guess EA does not, at least at the moment. That's fine. But I'll save my money in that case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563788/#p563788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed. I won't be buying 21. I see no point. If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out something much more accessible than Madden. So I sort of feel like anything that EA might offer as reasoning would be an excuse. One thing Naughty Dog has done is to show that it can be done, and they have raised the bar. It's up to other companies if they want to bring their standards up or not. I guess EA does not. That's fine. But I'll save my money in that case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563788/#p563788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. I gotta admit, I'm disappointed. I won't be buying 21. I see no point. If they make improvements in 22, then we'll see.@16, I somewhat agree, but even with everything going on with Covid, and working at home, etc., Naughty Dog still managed to put out something much more accessible than Madden. So I sort of feel like anything that EA might offer as reasoning would be an excuse. One thing Naughty Dog has done is to show that it can be done, and they have raised the bar. It's up to other companies if they want to bring their standards up ornot. I guess EA does not. THat's fine. But I'll save my money in that case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563788/#p563788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
2020-08-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mmaslo1124 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available. Hello, I apologize up front for a long post for it will show a lot of things I did not know that I am sure a lot of you already know. I found a web site that shows the formations for both offense and defense that each team has available to them. When I looked at this web site for eample, I saw that the Seattle Seahawks had Single Back, I form, h pro, h slot open pistol etc depending on if you have slim play or dynamic play enabled. I have slim play enabled for it is more the enough already for me. Anyway, when I clicked on pistol, I saw that under that formation, there was sub sections ace and strong slot open. . Once I went into that, I was able to see all the plays that were available under that particular formation, if this makes any sense? Anyway, when I went into Madden 21 and started a game, I went to formations, saw pistol just like the web site said. Now this is the part I didn't know. When I clicked on pistol, it gave me 3 random plays. Unfortunately the menu does not read at all but if you OCR, you could see the three plays it giaves you. Once that play runs, if you do not back out of that menu, it gives you three more random plays you can choose.Although the web site helps with formations, it still is impossible without OCR to see what plays are available I like it for at least I can get the formations which are available to me. As I said also previously many people may know all of this but for me as a second year player and one who really never understood how it worked, it helped me a lot.I do not want to have to OCR every screen if I do not need to.I have one question that maybe someone else can help me with. I know there is a way or I thought there was a way to have where there is no time clock to select a play. I am unsure if this is available in franchise mode or not but I am playing in pro mode. I turned off accelerated clock and one other which shows a 0 but I still got a penalty for delay of game.First I apologize to everyone if what I wrote is well known, secondly any help in turning off the call play clock would be sincerely appreciated.i as said I thought I did it but well I have no clue on what setting I missed.Sincerely URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563783/#p563783 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. Would you mind explaining what you mean by you found a possible playbook? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563781/#p563781 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
2020-08-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mmaslo1124 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available. I got the deluxe version and will play it. I have tried the trial version. I have found a possible play book. I have not had a chance to see how it if it is accurate or not URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563764/#p563764 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. I'm not forgetting TLOU2, but also keep in mind that that was in the works for three years, and the game wa spretty much completed before the world went in to lock down.What I'm referring to is games that you would expect to have accessibility built in especially from a ell-known studio that is known for it. EA. UFC 4 disappointed, Madden had no enhancements to existing accessibility, and of course there's flight Sim... Need I say more.There were very few people who even knew TLOU2 was going to be a thing ahead of time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563631/#p563631 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
2020-08-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available. Lol @16, 2020 is a bad year for a11y? I hope you didn't forget tlou2. I think that kind of makes up for a lot. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563628/#p563628 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Madden 21 trial available.
Re: Madden 21 trial available. You know how they say there's no I in team. I wouldn't be surprised if accessibility is one person. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563622/#p563622 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. There are also teams of programmers. Teams for ultamet team, teams for the art/animation, etc. We don't know how large the team is for accessibility. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563615/#p563615 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Madden 21 trial available. 15: I buy it completely. there's been such a shift in how work gets done. Studios by nature are extremely social places, and thi has all shifted to everyone working remotely. You can't tell me this doesn't effect output levels.We're also forgetting what comes out at the end of this year. new Xbox's and new Playstations. I suspect a lot of resources were shifted in to making sure these games are latest gen ready.If you take these two things, it's no wonder why this year just sucks for accessibility. Accessibility gets a very low priority normally, so I imagine it was one of the first things to get put on the chopping block.I still say that if we want accessibility in games, then we need to get about a million more blind people playing them regularly. Easier said than done, I know. companies respond to numbers. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563539/#p563539 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
