Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Sukil via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Hello,A couple of things here:First, I contacted the developers through Twittter and e-mail. I got no answer.Second, there is an easier solution. Put the right answer below the wrong you answered, and dont make it disappear. At least, that makes sense for me.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Well Sugal, if the developers arent answering its worth trying again, but if theyre really not going to do anything then no dice on the access front unfortunately, whatever suggestions people make. While a lot of indipendent developers are nice people, that that doesnt mean everybody is. Of course this isnt to say people shouldnt play the game and have fun with what they can of it, or that it shouldnt be discussed on this forum, only that its not getting a db page or promotion from this site without the access sinse audiogames.net exists to promote accessible games.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Sukil wrote:Second, there is an easier solution. Put the right answer below the wrong you answered, and dont make it disappear. At least, that makes sense for me.That is a good idea. Unfortunately, I wrote on their Facebook page yesterday and had the same results of you:(However, as said by Dark, this doesnt mean Ill stop having fun with this game. The best example of socializing? This game implicitly helped me to screw! 

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Sukil wrote:Second, there is an easier solution. Put the right answer below the wrong you answered, and dont make it disappear. At least, that makes sense for me.That is a good idea. Unfortunately, I wrote on their Facebook page yesterday and had the same results of you. However, as said by Dark, this doesnt mean Ill stop having fun with this game. The best example of socializing? This game implicitly helped me to screw! 

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mr . brunete via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

@fer:Hola!.así que tenemos otro argentino en el foro?. excelente!. jaja, vamos siendo 2 ya!.translation: Hi!. so, we have another argentinian (argentine) in the forum!. excellent, we are two now!.@dark. the inaccesible questions are for example:guess the movie, guess the character, historical figure, etc.you can read the options perfectly, but the problem is, that you need to see the image, if not, just click one you want, and sometimes you guess haha.Most of the times you play, you will answer accesible questions, inaccesible ones are a minority.the Word preguntados means asked (to a group) haha. nothing related to pregnancy. I have an android device, and it is perfectly playable on a Smartphone, and in tablets as well.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

The accessibility criteria is full access to the game with the same level of effort as a sighted person Pictoral questions was just what I meant. If a blind player is going to score 8 out of 10 because they will always get those questions wrong, the game is not completely accessible. When games are included in the db with graphical elements like maps, it always is checked that there is an alternative to access the same information with a screen reader so a blind player can do as well in the game without the map as a sighted player. if there were an option in the game to only! have textual questions and no picture based ones this would be fare enough sinse then a blind player could do just as well, indeed Freerice already has a database entry on very much those grounds sinse it has several categories of questions that arent accessible, like pointing out countries on a map and being asked what is their capital, or being required to look at pict
 ures of famous places and say where they are, it is however quite possible to have full access to the rest of the game and play as well as anyone with the other question categories.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

The accessibility criteria is full access to the game with the same level of effort as a sighted person Pictoral questions was just what I meant. If a blind player is going to score 8 out of 10 where a sighted player can score 10 out of 10 because the blind player will always have to purely guess at those questions, the game is not completely accessible. When games are included in the db with graphical elements like maps, it always is checked that there is an alternative to access the same information with a screen reader so a blind player can do as well in the game without the map as a sighted player. if there were an option in the game to only! have textual questions and no picture based ones this would be fare enough sinse then a blind player could do just as well, indeed Freerice already has a database entry on very much those grounds sinse it has several categories of questions that arent accessible, like pointing out countries on a map 
 and being asked what is their capital, or being required to look at pictures of famous places and say where they are, it is however quite possible to have full access to the rest of the game and play as well as anyone with the other question categories. This is why I would love to see the developers contacted and asked about access, sinse even if it werent possible to label all those images without spoiling the questions, it would be possible to say have a dont show pictoral questions setting in the games options.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

The accessibility criteria is full access to the game with the same level of effort as a sighted person Pictoral questions was just what I meant. If a blind player is going to score 8 out of 10 where a sighted player can score 10 out of 10 because the blind player will always have to purely guess at those questions, the game is not completely accessible. When games are included in the db with graphical elements like maps, it always is checked that there is an alternative to access the same information with a screen reader so a blind player can do as well in the game without the map as a sighted player. At the moment for example there is a space game which it is possible to play, however none of the links to stars and planets are labeled and their web addresses dont make sense, and sinse the game has literally hundreds and hundreds of star systems and planets and locations (even the first solar system where you start has 15), simply clicking every si
 ngle link until you get the right one isnt an option. The developers have said they will add labels and as soon as they do the game is getting a db page.if there were an option in the Trivia crack game to only! have textual questions and no picture based ones this would be fare enough sinse then a blind player could do just as well, indeed Freerice already has a database entry on very much those grounds sinse it has several categories of questions that arent accessible, like pointing out countries on a map and being asked what is their capital, or being required to look at pictures of famous places and say where they are, it is however quite possible to have full access to the rest of the game and play as well as anyone with the other question categories. This is why I would love to see the developers contacted and asked about access, sinse even if it werent possible to label all those images without spoiling the questions, it would be possible 
 to say have a dont show pictoral questions setting in the games options.It would also be better if there was a less clumsy way of telling which answer was write than using text colour, for example a text saying right answer If someone can get in touch with the developers and see if this could be done that would be fantastic!

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mr . brunete via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

theres a major problem regarding questions.You have the option questions Factory, where you can send your questions, and once aprobed, theyre in the game. i think that this is the main reason you wont get an answer from them, because, to enshure accessibility, they need to filter those picture questions.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Arabic two thousand via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

In Panama to, and also, me!

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

@mr.brunete, Im proud to see another Argentinian in the forum. You explained the pictoral questions in English better than I could, congrats! Dark wrote:if there were an option in the Trivia crack game to only! have textual questions and no picture based ones this would be fare enough sinse then a blind player could do just as wellThat would be a good idea. Moreover, since the game is also available as native applications for Android and iOS and those systems have integrated screen readers, the game itself could disable picture-based questions if it detects the user is running a screen reader like VoiceOver or Talkback, especially in iOS where it was proven to be possible.Dark wrote:This is why I would love to see the developers contacted an
 d asked about access, sinse even if it werent possible to label all those images without spoiling the questions, it would be possible to say have a dont show pictoral questions setting in the games options.Ill post on their Facebook page. If many users do it, perhaps it may help.Dark wrote:It would also be better if there was a less clumsy way of telling which answer was write than using text colour, for example a text saying right answerI think this is unnecessary, since the game plays a different sound depending if the user chose the right answer or not. Also, remember that the game is primarily used on mobile devices, some of which have small screens. When the player answers, until he or she press or tap the Continue button, the game still shows all possible answers so the user ca
 n re-analize (Im not meaning another oportunity with the same question) the question before it disappears. This would not be a problem on a PC, but if answer buttons on mobile devices have a text indicating what is the correct one, in longer answers the text may be truncated.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Well with respect to the right answer, I didnt realize the game also had a sound for when you were right or wrong, though it would be better if there was a way to know which answer were correct after youve answered especially on mobile devices sinse last I checked Voice over had no way to tell the colour of text and even in most windows screen readers its a pretty obscure function, and after all sighted people dont need to individually check each answer and the text colour. With respect to mobile displays simply 1=right or 2=true would be more than enough, this could even be printed somewhere else on screen, and again if the problem is sighted users (who can after all scroll their screens anyway), make it a setting in the games options., I do think the pictoral questions need filtering as I said. I dont believe it would be so hard to do sinse even if the questions are submitted by users there must be some way
  of banking or checking them,  to make sure the answers are correct if nothing else, and also check the questions are of even difficulty sinse after all there is a big difference btween being asked what relaion was the character Darth vader in Starwars to Luke Skywalker and what was the name of Sindels brother in the starwars spinoff Ewok films Both are film questions, about characters in the same franchise, but where most people will have seen The Empire strikes back or at least know the plot, I doubt quite as many know the Ewok films.So, there must be some monitoring and filtering of the questions, and if so putting them into accessible or inaccessible categories would work.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Well with respect to the right answer, I didnt realize the game also had a sound for when you were right or wrong, though it would be better if there was a way to know which answer were correct after youve answered especially on mobile devices sinse last I checked Voice over had no way to tell the colour of text and even in most windows screen readers its a pretty obscure function, and after all sighted people dont need to individually check each answer and the text colour. With respect to mobile displays simply 1=right or 2=true would be more than enough, this could even be printed somewhere else on screen, and again if the problem is sighted users (who can after all scroll their screens anyway), make it a setting in the games options., I do think the pictoral questions need filtering as I said. I dont believe it would be so hard to do sinse even if the questions are submitted by users there must be some way
  of banking or checking them,  to make sure the answers are correct if nothing else, and also check the questions are of even difficulty sinse after all there is a big difference btween being asked what relaion was the character Darth vader in Starwars to Luke Skywalker and what was the name of Sindels brother in the starwars spinoff Ewok films Both are film questions, about characters in the same franchise, but where most people will have seen The Empire strikes back or at least know the plot, I doubt quite as many know the Ewok films.So, there must be some monitoring and filtering of the questions, and if so putting them into accessible or inaccessible categories would work.About contacting the developers, I would not suggest many people start spamming their facebook page, sinse the last impression that should be made is that blind people wine a lot. One or two very carefully worded, polite requests can
  be much more effective than many impolite or badly worded ones, indeed I can think of a couple of cases where developers were put off by certain people winjing constantly about access fixes.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Yes, I dont believe filtering would be hard, since it could be fully automated by excluding any question showing a picture.For iOS the game could make VoiceOver tell something like Correct answer using other pitch with no need of printing it out. In Windows is not that easy, since the game also runs on web browsers in Mac and GNU/Linux, where accessibility APIs are different than the Windowss MSAA. Puting numbers after the answers is not a good idea, since the game shows numerical values for buildcards (sighted people dont know what they do until these are tested, so its not a labeling problem) after the answers, and some users may to be confused. However, it perfectly may have a single letter like C (correct).

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Nope, a pitch change would be okay for Ios but not for other platformers which is why i suggested a textual change such as writing correct after the correct answer. I dont see why adding the word correct before or after the right answer would be confusing to sighted people, and if your already using html to change the colour adding one word wouldnt make a difference, although as I said if it is a big deal there is always the possibility to make it an option that people can turn on or off as they wish. This is also why I wouldnt suggest interacting with Vo on ios, sinse that would only affect the Ios version, where as having options for turn pictoral questions off and mark write anser in text would work for all platforms that it is possible to use a screen reader on from pc to Lynux, if not as a stand alone Ap certainly online.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Nope, a pitch change would be okay for Ios but not for other platformers which is why i suggested a textual change such as writing correct after the correct answer. I dont see why adding the word correct before or after the right answer would be confusing to sighted people, and if your already using html to change the colour adding one word wouldnt make a difference, although as I said if it is a big deal there is always the possibility to make it an option that people can turn on or off as they wish. This is also why I wouldnt suggest interacting with Vo on ios, sinse that would only affect the Ios version, where as having options for turn pictoral questions off and mark write anser in text would work for all platforms that it is possible to use a screen reader on from pc to Lynux, if not as a stand alone Ap certainly online, though of course this still depends upon the d
 evelopers taking notice and being willing to make the necessary changes.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

I admit Ive heard of neither Preguntados nor trivia crack.Id be interested to know some more about the access. Are questions self voiced? Are thereare any picture rounds or bits that are impossible for vi players like in the you dont kno jack trivia game?I think perhaps this is one that needs some explanation for the nonn Argentinians here,  actually when I saw this thread I thought it might be a spambot sinse I didnt know what the word Pregnuntados means, and it sounds dangerously close to pregnant in English and of course medical matters are a favourite for spambots .

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Sukil via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Hello,Im from Spain and here its gaining popularity. The questions are not self voiced but they are accessible, but some parts are not. Ive contacted with Suport but they seem to ignore those things.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

As Sukil says, questions are not self-voicing. However, since the gaming area is correctly divided into headings and lists and animations/sounds are run with Silverlight instead of Adobe Flash, it can be played with screen readers like JAWS and NVDA. Unfortunately there are some questions with pictures; luckily those are the least, but graphics have no alternative text (I suppose that is for prevent cheating).Jeremías Laterra recorded an audiodemo on how to play Preguntados through the web, it is in Spanish.You can play by going to , or inside Facebook running the game on a iframe like other Facebook app. The domain triviacrack.com redirects me to the site in Spanish, but perhaps detecting your regional settings the site will show in your language, despite the capability of choosing what language will be used for questions on a given game.In addition to sounds that the game uses to indicate wetter an answer is correct or not, when I need to play muted (i.e. in university), I can use the JAWS command JAWS Key+5 extended keyboard to see if I answered right or not, since the correct answer after responding is marked green and a bad option the player chosen in blue.And well, this is the basic idea. Give it a try; for playing with friends is very funny. As Triviacrack or Preguntados, Im sure Facebook users in US and UK English have this app available.

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Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Preguntados popularity in other countries

For those who dont know this game, Preguntados is an Argentinian trivia multiplayer game for Android, iOS and web browsers.It can be played against Facebook friends and users who registered with their e-mails. There are 6 question categories which players will have to get, winning the one who gets the six characters first or the one who have more characters (categories) at round 25 if nobody had won all.In addition to Spanish you can play in English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Catalan and French. Does someone on this community play this game outside Argentina? In my country its being played by a lot of people and, since it is accessible, it is a great toy to socialize.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

As Sukil says, questions are not self-voicing. However, since the gaming area is correctly divided into headings and lists and animations/sounds are run with Silverlight instead of Adobe Flash, it can be played with screen readers like JAWS and NVDA. Unfortunately there are some questions with pictures; luckily those are the least, but graphics have no alternative text (I suppose that is for prevent cheating).Jeremías Laterra recorded an audiodemo on how to play Preguntados through the web, it is in Spanish.You can play by going to http://www.triviacrack.com/game, or inside Facebook running the game on a iframe like other Facebook app. The domain triviacrack.com redirects me to the site in Spanish, but perhaps detecting your regional settings the site will show in your language, despite the capability of choosing what language will be used for questions on a given game. Sumaricing, domains preguntados.com and triviacrack.com seem to be equals.In addition to sounds that the game uses to indicate wetter an answer is correct or not, when I need to play muted (i.e. in university), I can use the JAWS command JAWS Key+5 extended keyboard to see if I answered right or not, since the correct answer after responding is marked green and a bad option the player chosen in blue.And well, this is the basic idea. Give it a try; for playing with friends is very funny. As Triviacrack or Preguntados, Im sure Facebook users in US and UK English have this app available.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Hmmm,Well it does sound playable, if not quite accessible rather like You dont know jack though obviously without being self voicing the way the jack trivia games are. Id prefer if all parts were labeled and if there were a better alternative than text colour for right answers. If these issues were fixed Id be glad to give it a db page, so feel free to ask the developers again, sinse labelling images is hardly a major issue, indeed its something all propper web pages should do by default anyway.

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Sukil via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

@fergregoire94, how did you find the url of the game in their domain? Thank you for that, its better than logging in into facebook .

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : grryfindore via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

Hi,I hadnt heard of this game either,or if I had I probably forgot to give this a spin.@Dark, I think by unlabeled pictures fergregoire94 means pictorial questions. I.E look at the picture andI havent actually played it though, so could be wrong.But Ill give it a go when I have time and see if it is indeed right.grryf

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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

grryfindore wrote:@Dark, I think by unlabeled pictures fergregoire94 means pictorial questions. I.E look at the picture andThat is, Im referring to this.@Sukil, although I prefer to play inside Facebook, I found the URL by seeing the web address to which connects the iframe. It can be done by opening the source code (on the Developer Tools menu of your browser).@Dark, I think your concerns were answered when I quoted Grryfindore. The only actual problem that cant be skipped except using wild-cards are questions with pictures, but besides that the game is completely enjoyable by us.I dont have an Android nor iOS based phone or tablet, but other blind users from the Spanish-speaking community reported that the game on these platforms, which is run through an app instead of the web browser, is also accessible. Concerning inclusion on the Audiogames database, t
 here are some web browser games that have some feature such as maps that is a bit inaccessible, but still can be perfectly played.

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182218#p182218




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Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Preguntados popularity in other countries

For those who dont know this game, Preguntados is an Argentinian trivia multiplayer game for Android, iOS and web browsers.It can be played against Facebook friends and users who registered with their e-mails. There are 6 question categories which players will have to get, winning the one who gets the six characters first or the one who have more characters (categories) at round 25 if nobody had won all.In addition to Spanish you can play in English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Catalan and one more language I dont remember. Does someone on this community play this game outside Argentina? In my country its being played by a lot of people and, since it is accessible, it is a great toy to socialize.

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182114#p182114




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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : scv via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

hi fer,for the english comunity, the app its called tribia crack.

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182125#p182125




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Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

2014-07-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fergregoire94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Preguntados popularity in other countries

scv wrote:hi fer,for the english comunity, the app its called tribia crack.It is true, and even internally it uses this name. Is this game known in Mexico?

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182130#p182130




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