Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Bot the Trek and Stream2 got a minor bugfix update to fix an issue with Bookshare. Insures us that the STream2 is, well, not dead , then again they never said they were gonna abandon it. As a Trek user myself I"m also aware that we have a lot in store, including the implementation of an improved routing engine in an upcoming release, and also Galileo activation once it gets fcc approval in the consumer space. Also, with the Merekush Treaty bridging the library access gap for people all over the world (international copyright exceptions for those with visual/reading disabilities, not just domestic) that may open the door for inter-library access. If us US users, through this treaty, had potential access to CNIB's library, we could potentially utilize the daisy online direct to player delivery method that us US users have been missing out on for nearly 4 years now. Remember, if you're in Canada/Europe you have access to a whole host of Stream features the rest of us miss out on, namely direct to player delivery and dynamic menus in the daisy library. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/444131/#p444131 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Bot the Trek and Stream2 got a minor bugfix update to fix an issue with Bookshare. Insures us that the STream2 is, well, not dead , then again they never said they were gonna abandon it. As a Trek user myself I"m also aware that we have a lot in store, including the implementation of an improved routing engine in an upcoming release, and also Galileo activation once it gets fcc approval in the consumer space. Also, with the Merekush Treaty bridging the library access gap for people all over the world (international copyright exceptions for those with visual/reading disabilities, not just domestic) that may open the door for inter-library access. If us US users, through this treaty, had potential access to CNIB's library, we could potentially utilize the daisy online direct to player delivery method that us US users have been missing out on for nearly 4 years now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/444131/#p444131 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players As for network browsing, there's only so much tentative space the device can handle before it completely flips. Remember that it pre-scans the media on a medium so that browsing and playing it is seemless. My 128gb sd card hadn't even been close to being filled to the brim, I'd say about 70gb, and yet the stream took forever and a day to load everything into memory, whereas the Trek takes less than half that speed.If you're going to send feature requests, you should send them to i...@humanware.com and not supp...@humanware.com. That is the fastest route to their actual development team.Remember that use royalties are pretty substantial for a smaller company. They must pay Intel per-use royalties as they do for Qualcom now, Amazon's gotta be getting plenty of royalties for Audible support, and Acapela is a yearly royalty to keep their license. If they were building this thing on a Raspberry Pi (if they were even common back then) then they of course would not have to pay royalties for the processor at least. This is why these processors can't just be bought off the shelf (unless a company has specifically made a development board for such purpose, think dragonboard410c.) Chipsets are only available through contract, so often the price per unit is a rumor as the real prices are probably not only under ndc, but probably pre-arranged between the chipmaker and the company buying them. And even after that you have usage royalties. It's a hot mess, and this is what the open source diy market primarily exists for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438259/#p438259 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players As for network browsing, there's only so much tentative space the device can handle before it completely flips. Remember that it pre-scans the media on a medium so that browsing and playing it is seemless. My 128gb sd card hadn't even been close to being filled to the brim, I'd say about 70gb, and yet the stream took forever and a day to load everything into memory, whereas the Trek takes less than half that speed.If you're going to send feature requests, you should send them to i...@humanware.com and not supp...@humanware.com. That is the fastest route to their actual development team. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438259/#p438259 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Keep in mind that a U.S. user is missing out on a large portion of stream features, that is Daisy Online. Direct to player delivery is something the CNIB and other European distribution libraries have, allowing fully dynamic media libraries meaning the stream isn't limited in the menus of information that can be produced. The books can be delivered direct to your player as if they were sent in the mail like they are now. Think Overdrive but on the Stream. The U.S. is waiting until they can get a new player out (they are prototyping one now) that actually has wifi features, tts, etc. Then the features can be added to Bard Express. Doesn't make much sense to me why they're waiting now when back in 2007, they had a huge defunding issue that prevented them from getting their own player out right away, but had already partnered with Humanware to make the Stream Bard-ready (this was early-adoption before it was trendy, folks.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438258/#p438258 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I bet you the BPP has less than a GB of storage. The operating system probably takes up a large chunk of the available space. When you add one Vocalizer voice which is probably 100 to 150 MB plus the human voice clips, there's probably not much to work with. It's a shame these devices have such horrid processors. If someone can get the specs, I'm still very interested.Why would network browsing be terrible on the Stream? I can see it might take a little while to download large files, but aside from that, it should work okay if you just want to browse lists of folders and/or play files. That would make so much sense on a device like that. Imagine the amount of data you could have instant access to.If the Stream isn't abandoned, what are they planning next? I haven't heard anything, and the last update was a minor one over a year ago to fix podcasts and add new voice clips. Again, I'm not asking for extremely hardcore features here, just a few more interesting Internet and networking features related to audio, which is what the device is designed for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438256/#p438256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I bet you the BPP has less than a GB of storage. The operating system probably takes up a large chunk of the available space. When you add one Vocalizer voice which is probably 100 to 150 MB plus the human voice clips, there's probably not much to work with. It's a shame these devices have such horrid processors. If someone can get the specs, I'm still very interested.Why would network browsing be terrible on the Stream? I can see it might take a little while to download large files, but aside from that, it should work okay if you just want to browse lists of folders and/or play files. That would make so much sense on a device like that. Imagine the amount of data you could have instant access to.If the Stream isn't abandoned, what are they planning next? I haven't heard anything, and the last update was a minor one over a year ago to fix podcasts and add new voice clips. Again, I'm not asking for extremely hardcore features here, just a few more interesting Internet and networking features related to audio, which is what the device was designed for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438256/#p438256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I bet you the BPP has less than a GB of storage. The operating system probably takes up a large chunk of the available space. When you add one Vocalizer voice which is probably 100 to 150 MB plus the human voice clips, there's probably not much to work with. It's a shame these devices have such horrid processors. If someone can get the specs, I'm still very interested.Why would network browsing be terrible on the Stream? I can see it might take a little while to download large files, but aside from that, it should work okay if you just want to browse lists of folders and/or play files. That would make so much sense on a device like that. Imagine the amount of data you could have instant access to.If the Stream isn't abandoned, what are they planning next? I haven't heard anything, and the last update was a minor one over a year ago to fix podcasts and add new voice clips. Again, I'm not asking for extremely hardcore features here, just a few more interesting Internet and networking features related to audio, which is after all what the device was designed for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438256/#p438256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I bet you the BPP has less than a GB of storage. The operating system probably takes up a large chunk of the available space. WHen you add one Vocalizer voice which is probably 100 MB plus voice clips, there's probably not much to work with. It's a shame these devices have such horrid processors.Why would network browsing be terrible on the Stream? I can see it might take a little while to download large files, but aside from that, it should work okay if you just want to browse lists of folders and/or play files. If the Stream isn't abandoned, what are they planning next? I haven't heard anything, and the last update was a minor one over a year ago to fix podcasts and add new voice clips. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438256/#p438256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Not necessarily, it only had space for one vocalizer automotive Samantha voice, for some reason Tom is still compact. The Victor Reader Stream2 would be the drive that's 2gb, storing acapela voices and barely enough room for podcasts and books, whereas the trek has 16gb for maps and firmware, and 16gb for user data. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438208/#p438208 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players The bpp has both samantha and tom on it. The drive in it has to be at least 2 gb because you have either 1 gb or 30 minuts of voice memmoes on inturnal and you also have to think about the software URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438178/#p438178 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players The bpp has both samantha and tom on it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/438178/#p438178 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players It's just the talking book player. Same site that sells those rockboxed Clip Zip players. It won't play protected content from book libraries like nls and rfb and d though, so it's not quite as convenient. Also, processor choice is more than just let's stick as much as we can inside this device. They do need to see which one is the best for the current need. Remember, in addition to buying the processors themselves, HUmanware does incur royalties to the manufacturer, and some of those royalties are steep. The Raspberry Pi is the first should we say liberation from that space, partnered with the Arduino lineup. Never before has there been a diy board that anyone can pick up and use, but also one that doesn't need constant royalties to be paid. These are things that we take for granted, and can even be taken for granted by most phone manufacturers as the royalty costs are pennies to them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437779/#p437779 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Lol that stream is so lo powerred, even lower than a 50 dollars android phone, or just an amazon fire, but I believe that thing is t big for most people to travel with.But now really you can get a cheap android phone and use it as a book player, pair it with a big power bank and you get a book player, with great battery life and you can also charrge your actual phone from that.Btw, I know that there is another player which is using Ivona voices, has internet suport and it is like 200 dollars on accessiblemp3players.com, but do not take my info as very good, because I said something close to the price of that thing, from what I remember.Does someone know what is the name of that thing? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437772/#p437772 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Also, Humanware actually fully admitted that their prices were never meant to be reasonable for individual customers, the difference between then and now is that state agencies are either losing funding, or they have funding and are screwing over their clients. So they fully realize that the pricing structure is a problem that needs to be rectified, but it's going to be hard in a market like this. The Congress is taking slow steps to assist users such as a tax-exemption for assistive technology purchases, but they could do a lot more in vr funding that they aren't. Then again, that wouldn't be the first thing profoundly wrong with our congress, but I'll spare that discussion for another topic. Lol!You also have the fact that most mainstream companies have pretty much lost interest in actually manufacturing stand-alone products for the blind. Plextalk was manufactured by the major Japanese manufacturing firm Shinano Kenchi Corporation, and the Telex Scholar (and surrounding daisy players) were manufactured by Telex Communications who manufactures radio and communications equipment. But that time when the mainstream gave a shit is long gone. Course now we have a lot more companies embedding accessibility into their own stuff, but as far as the physical button devices we love, these blindness companies are now on their own (minus the Braillenote Touch being a close collaboration with Google of course.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437765/#p437765 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Actually, to be brutally honest, the Victor series has just been energy-efficient no matter the cpu. The dragonboard410C doesn't drain the battery on the Trek. Even with the GPS on, you can still get a good 10 to 12 hours, and with gps turned off your battery is usually about the same.Also, keep in mind the yearly royalties Humanware has to pay to all these services they contract/partner with for the Stream. Acapela is a yearly deal. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon were clawing at their funds as much as they can since Audible is still present, considering how they treated Pay with Chip Marketplace. And everything else that the Stream/Trek gets integrated. In the case of the Trek, they have to pay Tomtom royalties for a license to not only utilize the maps, but for the ability to modify them (Humanware does doctor them to make them more blind/pedestrian-friendly) so it's not like they're slapping the maps onto the Trek and calling it a done deal. And even after that, map updates are free on the Trek because Humanware wanted them to be either free or as low as possible since they were not looking to make profits off the maps.Also I hope no one's buying Streams off Amazon, because then Humanware would be barely getting any value for those sales.So when they charge what they do for these devices, they're nowhere close to five figures in disposable profits on a regular basis like mainstream companies would be.Indeed, they are closely looking at the low-cost braille market kicked off by the Orbit20, but they are not going to integrate it into their own products until it actually matures and become acceptable in the mainstream, with a stable market (the fallout between APH and Orbit proves that either there's a conflict of interest, or the braille market is just too small for innovation at low prices). So until then, Humanware has chosen to stick to the tried and true braille technology, because as expensive as it is for both them and the customers, it insures that their products are still at a high quality standard. And with there being only one braille manufacturing company that is actually staying afloat (Metek), there is no competition to decide the price of these piezoelectric actuation braille cells. Baum is struggling (at least in the US, not sure about Germany). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437764/#p437764 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players A 580 MHz processor? Woah! How about RAM? 256 or 128 MB? Anything less? Wow! No wonder it gets such great battery life. Now I wonder if the Book Port Plus has similar specs? Maybe a 512 MB hard disk if were lucky? I'm starting to think it's less than 512 MB though. Woah! These people sold really crummy devices at rather high prices. I mean I get it's a blindness product and it works for the primary purpose of playing audio, but that's still incredible! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437761/#p437761 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @Chris:Finn tells me the Stream2 is using a freescale 580MHz single-core arm11 CPU. The Braillenote Apex used something from the freescale series, I imagine the Stream2's is weaker due to it being an embedded device. Put simply, network file browsing capability would probably make you wish they'd never implemented it in the first place.Also, say all you want about Humanware, but they are a lot better than Hims as far as support is concerned, coming from personal experience. Sent me a free brand new Trek replacement after my original battery exploded, never mind the fact that my warranty is over. Pre-owned Blaze ET from Hims appears to have fried? Mainboard replacement would be on me and I wouldn't find out how much it costs till we get a quote, no doubt it wouldn't be under $100 from what I'm told.Also, people who purchased a Braillenote Touch very recently are in line for an even steeper discount on the Touch Plus upgrade, and may even get it for free. It's early adopters that are hit the hardest ($1300 is the highest price one will pay for an upgrade). But early adoption is risky business in the tech industry nowadays, not just for assistive tech. The entire friggin smart home business is an early adoption nightmare (remember the Revolv system that was set to be a universal smart home hub? Well, Nest acquired it, discontinued (and bricked) the original Revolv. People got refunded the $300 they spent on Revolv, but now they had to get a new hub for all their smart home appliances that now no longer worked without a hub. So couple early adoption with Humanware's essential early adoption of Android as a hole, and you've got a logistical nightmare. Humanware jumped on the train when Android was still a maturing platform, 2013 to be exact. The Touch began development when Android accessibility was just beginning to improve, so while Google worked closely with Humanware on development, a lot of shit had to be expanded upon to make the speech and braille experience seemless. Midway through development, the chip that the Touch was based off of, Texas Instruments Omap4 board to be exact, had its support dropped (that's why the Galaxy Nexus never got Kitkat.) Humanware having already started development probably didn't have the budget to just scrap the device and start over on a new board. So they did somehow manage to get an extended support agreement with Texas Instruments, which is probably what actually led them to believe they could upgrade the Android version of the Touch past 4.4.2. Also keep in mind that at the time, 4.4.2 was the Android version that had the most stable accessibility framework. Now, that Android version is Oreo. Well that extended support came and went. So here we are in 2019, and the Android accessibility framework has seen substantial improvement, so HUmanware can now enter the new Android market. The Qualcom Snapdragon820 board is an excellent board for the Touch, it is running Android Oreo currently, and I am told it's definitely getting Pie soon. I even asked if it's getting Android Q, despite the horrifying isolated storage issue (I'm keeping tabs on it testing the beta builds of Q on my Pixel2), and they said working around Q's limitations and allowing filesystem access was on their radar. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437736/#p437736 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players That explains why downloads are so slow. If they're running as background processes and the CPU isn't great to begin with, woah! Now I want to write to Humanware asking about the specs. I suppose the worst that can happen is they tell me they won't release that information. Still, I'm curious.I'm not buying anymore products from Humanware. They don't update their devices and make the hardware reach its full potential. Look at all those BrailleNote Touch owners who are essentially told "You're screwed unless you pay up for the new model.". The second gen Stream may not necessarily have a huge amount of processing power, but they can't add a few more interesting Wi-Fi features that shouldn't use very much processing power?I didn't think you would get source code from Humanware. That would be dumb if they did something like that. Out of curiosity, do you know how many people work on the software? Do the Stream and Trek share a common code base? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437725/#p437725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players That explains why downloads are so slow. If they're running as background processes and the CPU isn't great to begin with, woah! Now I want to write to Humanware asking about the specs. I suppose the worst that can happen is they tell me they won't release that information. Still, I'm curious.I'm not buying anymore products from Humanware. They don't update their devices and make the hardware reach its full potential. Look at all those BrailleNote Touch owners who are essentially told "You're screwed unless you pay up for the new model.". The second gen Stream may not necessarily have a huge amount of processing power, but they can't add a few more interesting Wi-Fi features that shouldn't use very much processing power? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437725/#p437725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players That explains why downloads are so slow. If they're running as background processes and the CPU isn't powerful to begin with, woah! Now I want to write to Humanware asking about the specs. I suppose the worst that can happen is they tell me they won't release that information. Still, I'm curious.I'm not buying anymore products from Humanware. They don't update their devices and make the hardware reach its full potential. Look at all those BrailleNote Touch owners who are essentially told "You're screwed unless you pay up for the new model.". The second gen Stream may not necessarily have a huge amount of processing power, but they can't add a few more interesting Wi-Fi features related to playback? Ugh! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437725/#p437725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players The thing the stream has going for it is the long baterie life, plus a lot of formats are supported. I like my iPad, but i wanted something smaller and spasifically made for reading, that's why i made the purchase. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437722/#p437722 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Their own code isn't gpl licensed, so that would explain it. And @Chris: The Stream's processor is tiny, trust me. That's no Pi0 powering that thing. Notice how the STream2 isn't light as a feather without the battery, and the Trek is beefed up a bit? Yeah, the Stream2 has just enough processing power to run its 1 software stack and background processes for downloading stuff. Because at the time, that was all that was needed.The STream2, I believe, is also running an outdated Linux kernel. How can I tell the processor is slow as all hell? Well, the sd card in my Trek loads ten times faster than it would if it were in my stream2. So PDF recognition would be a slow drag on the stream2. Which is why it doesn't look like it's getting those features. If you can afford the Trek/sell your stream to put money towards one, I would highly recommend it. You wouldn't be losing anything from the Victor Reader side of things, with the exception of Audible Format 4 removal (only audible enhanced formats are supported.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437602/#p437602 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I can confirm that the stream is written using C or some other compiled language and is using staticly linked libraries, according to Humanware. (I had sent them an email requesting the source code since the kernel was licensed under the GPL, and wasdenied with thos very words.) Hence, the only source code you canget is the Linux kernel -- which is not enough to produce a stream equivalent. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437546/#p437546 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players OK so keep in mind with your idea of modding the stream. I haven't messed with it much so who knows maybe it's actually possible, but I'm guessing most of the stream's firmware is compiled to native machine code from C or some other language like that. So in order to casually mod the stream, it's not a question of writing some new code and quick throwing together a new update image and installing it. You'd have to find away to disassemble the stream's binary, modify it, and then recompile it. To some extent maybe you could hexedit the binary without decompiling it first, but you'd hardly get anything done. Most of the features suggested require a lot of code, and unless you could get the actual source code for the stream, I doubt anyone is going to be adding any of those any time soon. Now as I said I've never messed with the stream myself, so if anyone can prove me wrong here that would be fuckin awesome lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437507/#p437507 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players If the Stream can support audio from video files, it should work. The U2 only had I believe a 1 GHz CPU and 256 MB of RAM. I'm not sure if it could display the video data, but it managed to play audio just fine from what I've heard. Since the Stream is running Linux, it should be better than Windows CE. Hmmm, now maybe I should take this list and send it to Humanware again. I really want some of these features, and the device should be able to do most if not all of them. oh, and playing audio from video files isn't a bad idea either. I think MP4 works, but that might be it? Time to experiment. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437493/#p437493 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players why not youtube though? yes no video, but audio still works, and the hims note takers used to have youtube, granted, they are way more powerful, well, maybe not, but they had youtube. and the hims blaze had skype. hmm, tt for the vr stream? heh URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437483/#p437483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I'll probably keep my stream offline most of the time, and just transfer books the USB route. I went ahead and purchased one of those ultimate tech mods SD cards, so i'll have a fail safe. I intend on imaging the original card that comes with the unit for yet another solution just in case the thing bricks on me lol. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437446/#p437446 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Why couldn't the Stream handle most of the features above? Yes, YouTube is most likely out of the question, but everything else shouldn't require a ton of processing power.If the Trek has those specifications, the Stream must be significantly worse. Maybe a single core and half the RAM? No wonder downloads are so slow. Now I really want to know what the Book Port Plus has, because that device is worse than the Stream in terms of performance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437442/#p437442 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @Chris: Humanware is not abandoning the Stream. However, do realize that the Trek will undoubtedly be getting more advanced features than the STream2 in the long run. I'm told in a few months we'll have iBeacon support, FM radio, and OCR-ing pdf's. This is also thanks for the more obvious bluetooth and fm radio chips embedded, but also because the Trek uses a much faster Qualcom Dragonboard410C processor. It runs at 1.2ghz per core (a quad core cpu) and has 1gb ram. For a daisy player and GPS, that's more than enough. The Treker performance is extremely responsive. Podcasts actually do download faster. And the unit has 16gb in reserve for user storage, so no need to worry about running out of space for books and podcasts quickly.*Youtube: not sure, considering we're talking a device that has no video-out of any kind connected.But if any device would get network folder-browsing support that's actually good, it would be the Trek. The Stream2 simply lacks the hardware specs. By the way, both systems run Linux embedded, the Bookport Plus is the only one we got still running Windows Embedded CE. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437331/#p437331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players How did you execute batch scripts on the unit? If you can get the hardware info, that would be interesting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437321/#p437321 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Awww they are worried about people hacking the bookport plus? Ehh hem, you mean, like running batch scripts on it and dumping the entire filesystem? yes, I did that. Yes it is running windows SE core 5.0 if I remember correctly. I never checked for ram, disk space or CPU, I'll have to see if there is a windows CE 5.0 compatible program I can use to do that. If I find one I can run it and let you know. That's hilarious that they don't want to give out hardware specs. Yeah dude ya know that government server bro? Yeah, that one. I hacked it and got root access because I knew it was running linux and it had 32GB of ram! Yo man mind telling me how many cores your computer has? This info will let me steel your passwords, no doubt about it! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437319/#p437319 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Oh wow, I didn't think this thing would come back. Well, here goes...If you're going to be modifying the Stream software, I'd suggest either not tampering with the original card or making sure you've made a good working backup. I'm honestly not interested enough to do this because I'm not a developer, and I don't have enough Linux knowledge yet to go cloning partitions and the like.I can think of plenty of cool things to add to the Stream. Humanware seems to have abandoned the project which pisses me off! There's so much they could do. Let's see, what do I want?1. The ability to browse, stream, and download files from local SMB network shares. My super awesome idea was to get a Raspberry Pi, connect a hard drive with a ton of audio, and wirelessly access all that content from the intuitive controls of the Stream.2. A network transfer mode to transfer files to the SD card and/or internal SD card from a computer. This may or may not be worth it, especially when you consider how awful the Book Port's network folder feature is. The fastest speeds I ever achieved were just shy of 500 kbps which is ridiculous!3. The ability to send audio to Chromecast and AirPlay receivers. The device has Wi-Fi, so why not? I want to play books and music on all my Google Homes and Chromecast Audios scattered around the house in sync.4. Access to the Broadcastify database. We have ooTunes, so why not access to police, fire, etc radio streams as well?5. Access to the dictionary.com and thesaurus.com websites. There are times when I want simple lists of definitions, and Wiktionary is crap!6. Support for drives formatted as NTFS and ExFAT.7. The ability to Stream podcasts in addition to downloading them.8. USB keyboard support. I hate the classic telephone keypad typing crap!9. YouTube? I don't know if this one is feasible. What kind of hardware are we looking at with the Stream? What are the specifications for the processor and RAM? Does anyone know? I'm really curious, but Humanware probably wouldn't tell me.10. Download speed notifications. I'd like to know how quickly items are downloading and why the Wi-Fi is so damn slow. Is it because there's a really crummy processor inside the unit?11. The ability to record to the internal memory and save podcasts and other web content to the SD card.I really hope the Stream isn't abandoned. They come out with this cool unit with Wi-Fi capabilities, and all they do is add support for book services, web radio, NFB Newsline, references via Wikipedia/Wiktionary, time synchronization, and podcasts? Come on! There's so much more we can do! I want this to be a really awesome product!Now, I'm turning my attention to the Book Port Plus. APH abandoning the product pisses me off! I'm especially pissed because I paid for their online books update which never worked as advertised! I reported the issues, but no patches were released, and I think they've all broken except for Bookshare. That product had a lot of potential as well, but it looks like nothing will be happening with that now. I tried to get someone from APH to tell me the hardware specifications, but I was told they weren't giving up that info because people might try to hack it. Well, if you people want to abandon the product, why not?So I'm curious. Does anyone know the specifications of the device? All I know is it uses an 802.11 B/G radio. How about the CPU, RAM, and internal storage capacity? Is it running Windows CE Embedded? What does it use for Network Folder? Is it a really old version of SMB? Does it have a Telnet server? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437312/#p437312 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Oh wow, I didn't think this thing would come back. Well, here goes...If you're going to be modifying the Stream software, I'd suggest either not tampering with the original card or making sure you've made a good working backup. I'm honestly not interested enough to do this because I'm not a developer, and I don't have enough Linux knowledge yet to go cloning partitions and the like.I can think of plenty of cool things to add to the Stream. Humanware seems to have abandoned the project which pisses me off! There's so much they could do. Let's see, what do I want?1. The ability to browse, stream, and download files from local SMB network shares. My super awesome idea was to get a Raspberry Pi, connect a hard drive with a ton of audio, and wirelessly access all that content from the intuitive controls of the Stream.2. A network transfer mode to transfer files to the SD card and/or internal SD card from a computer. This may or may not be worth it, especially when you consider how awful the Book Port's network folder feature is. The fastest speeds I ever achieved were just shy of 500 kbps which is ridiculous!3. The ability to send audio to Chromecast and AirPlay receivers. The device has Wi-Fi, so why not? I want to play books and music on all my Google Homes and Chromecast Audios scattered around the house in sync.4. Access to the Broadcastify database. We have ooTunes, so why not access to police, fire, etc radio streams as well?5. Access to the dictionary.com and thesaurus.com websites. There are times when I want simple lists of definitions, and Wictionary is crap!6. Support for drives formatted as NTFS and ExFAT.7. The ability to Stream podcasts in addition to downloading them.8. USB keyboard support. I hate the classic telephone keypad typing crap!9. YouTube? I don't know if this one is feasible. What kind of hardware are we looking at with the Stream? What are the specifications for the processor and RAM? Does anyone know? I'm really curious, but Humanware probably wouldn't tell me.10. Download speed notifications. I'd like to know how quickly items are downloading and why the Wi-Fi is so damn slow. Is it because there's a really crummy processor inside the unit?11. The ability to record to the internal memory and save podcasts and other web content to the SD card.I really hope the Stream isn't abandoned. They come out with this cool unit with Wi-Fi capabilities, and all they do is add support for book services, web radio, NFB Newsline, references via Wikipedia/Wictionary, time synchronization, and podcasts? Come on! There's so much more we can do! I want this to be a really awesome product!Now, I'm turning my attention to the Book Port Plus. APH abandoning the product pisses me off! I'm especially pissed because I paid for their online books update which never worked as advertised! I reported the issues, but no patches were released, and I think they've all broken except for Bookshare. That product had a lot of potential as well, but it looks like nothing will be happening with that now. I tried to get someone from APH to tell me the hardware specifications, but I was told they weren't giving up that info because people might try to hack it. Well, if you people want to abandon the product, why not?So I'm curious. Does anyone know the specifications of the device? All I know is it uses an 802.11 B/G radio. How about the CPU, RAM, and internal storage capacity? Is it running Windows CE Embedded? What does it use for Network Folder? Is it a really old version of SMB? Does it have a Telnet server? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437312/#p437312 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Oh wow, I didn't think this thing would come back. Well, here goes...If you're going to be modifying the Stream software, I'd suggest either not tampering with the original card or making sure you've made a good working backup. I'm honestly not interested enough to do this because I'm not a developer, and I don't have enough Linux knowledge yet to go cloning partitions and the like.I can think of plenty of cool things to add to the Stream. Humanware seems to have abandoned the project which pisses me off! There's so much they could do. Let's see, what do I want?1. The ability to browse, stream, and download files from local SMB network shares. My super awesome idea was to get a Raspberry Pi, connect a hard drive with a ton of audio, and wirelessly access all that content from the intuitive controls of the Stream.2. A network transfer mode to transfer files to the SD card and/or internal SD card from a computer. This may or may not be worth it, especially when you consider how awful the Book Port's network folder feature is. The fastest speeds I ever achieved were just shy of 500 kbps which is ridiculous!3. The ability to send audio to Chromecast and AirPlay receivers. The device has Wi-Fi, so why not? I want to play books and music on all my Google Homes and Chromecast Audios scattered around the house in sync.4. Access to the Broadcastify database. We have ooTunes, so why not access to police, fire, etc radio streams as well?5. Access to the dictionary.com and thesaurus.com websites. There are times when I want simple lists of definitions, and Wictionary is crap!6. Support for drives formatted as NTFS and ExFAT.7. The ability to Stream podcasts in addition to downloading them.8. USB keyboard support. I hate the classic telephone keypad typing crap!9. YouTube? I don't know if this one is feasible. What kind of hardware are we looking at with the Stream? What are the specifications for the processor and RAM? Does anyone know? I'm really curious, but Humanware probably wouldn't tell me.10. Download speed notifications. I'd like to know how quickly items are downloading and why the Wi-Fi is so damn slow. Is it because there's a really crummy processor inside the unit?11. The ability to record to the internal memory and save podcasts and other web content to the SD card.I really hope the Stream isn't abandoned. They come out with this cool unit with Wi-Fi capabilities, and all they do is add support for book services, web radio, and podcasts? Come on! here's so much more we can do!Now, I'm turning my attention to the Book Port Plus. APH abandoning the product pisses me off! I'm especially pissed because I paid for their online books update which never really worked as advertised! I reported the issues, but no patches were released, and I think they've all broken except for Bookshare. That product had a lot of potential as well, but it looks like nothing will be happening with that now. I tried to get someone from APH to tell me the hardware specs, but I was told they weren't giving up that info because people might try to hack it. Well, if you people want to abandon the product, why not?So I'm curious. Does anyone know the specifications of the device? All I know is it uses an 802.11 B/G radio. How about the CPU, RAM, and internal storage capacity? Is it running Windows CE Embedded? What does it use for Network Folder? Is it a really old version of SMB? Does it have a Telnet server? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437312/#p437312 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players You know, I'd kinda like to know that too. Because right now, mine won't boot lol. I've recently seen ads for ultimate tech mods online, but I don't really want to pay upwards of 30 dollars to get my stream fixed if I don't have to. Now I do realize this is a bargain compared to Humanware's repair price, but if I can do it myself, why spend the money? And thanks everyone, by the way, for your earlier contributions to this topic, as they have allowed me to successfully get that card out of the victor. But i was also wondering about something. I see that some folks are attempting to develop a custom firmware for these things. What would be the benefit of using this over the default? I find it pretty easy and simple to use already, what features would this new and improved installation bring me? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437124/#p437124 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Hey guys just bringing this back to prepare for any bricking situations i might have with my new generation victor stream. So i know the thing runs off that micro SD car under the baterie, but what happens if it won't boot? Is there a way i can dump the firmware on it to fix it just in case, i don't like the idea of sending it back to Humanware, i'd rather do it myself. Any help appreciated. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/437024/#p437024 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players That reminds me of the braille-n-speak. The 5 batteries of that thing were soldered together. I"m thinking that may be the same case with the Braillenote's batteries, they're probably just soldered if they look like one whole. And I'm willing to bet they're nicads, after all nica double-a's look identical to double-a's. Even so, very generic, nothing custom about the batteries. Oh yeah, and the braille-n-speak is incredibly easy to disassemble. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357322#p357322 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players since the apex in question, I had to be careful with, as that wasn't mine. basically, under the battery, below the tiny tape, is the RAM. if the unit doesn't boot up, that's what they replace. when you remove the 6 screws out of the thing, which, as mentioned, you can use the most ever basic screw driver you have, you have 2 panels. the top panel, with the braille display, keyboard, etc, and the bottom panel. I didn't really want to examine the bottom panel, but basically, these 2 panels and elements are all nicely tangled up with some cables, and there goes the apex. not special at all. pretty much any computer shop, that dealt with hardware, could repair it, as long as you don't take the braille display apart. .MPOWER. first, you gotta tare out the 2 back legs. at that point, you can remove the 6 screws, 2 in front, 2 in middle, 2 below what is now the exposed legs. the good news is, after taring out the legs, you can actually put them back, if they don't get too dirty. they won't lose their stickiness.once that's done, the MPOWER will fall in your lap. the first thing we will notice is the 2 sets of thumb keys are only held in by 2 wires at the edge. no screws, no clips, nothing. so as soon as I lift up the upper panel, the thumb keys start dangling in the air. next to that, we have the braille display, which is again, held in by 5 screws. when I unscrewed those 5 screws, I took off this metal sheet, that was above the display. I was able to partially remove the actual display, but those tough humanware wires. I don't have any knowledge of properly disconnecting those. but as long as you don't physically open up the display, it won't fall apart. now, at the bottom of the top panel, you find 6 standard, exactly like in a TV remote, batteries. since this MPOWER in question lost it's product key, and has a broken reset button, and I have one that works, I decided to rip out the batteries. so basically, the 6 batteries, tighed together with some kind of a tape, were taped down to the board. so I had to first destroy the tape on the frame, which I was able to do with my handy screw driver. I was able to, just like the braille display, remove the batteries. the idea was to put them into my other MPOWER, but again, the wires. basically, anyone who knows how to do the wires, you can replace the batteries, or even the display yourself, as long as you have another element to put in instead. of course the back panel, with all the ports is also visible. I'm not sure what you guys would like to know in particular, I may have missed something. I'd do a little audio demo, but I have nothing decent to record with. as for the back panel, the bottom of the unit, that just has some wires, and possibly the flash drive, etc. all in all, the apex and mPower seem to be using very similar, if not identical structure. with that said, if there is enough demand, I can produce some kind of an audio, but it won't be professional. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357311#p357311 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players since the apex in question, I had to be careful with, as that wasn't mine. basically, under the battery, below the tiny tape, is the RAM. if the unit doesn't boot up, that's what they replace. when you remove the 6 screws out of the thing, which, as mentioned, you can use the most ever basic screw driver you have, you have 2 panels. the top panel, with the braille display, keyboard, etc, and the bottom panel. I didn't really want to examine the bottom panel, but basically, these 2 panels and elemants are all nicely tangled up with some cables, and there goes the apex. not special at all. pretty much any computer shop, that dealt with hardware, could repare it, as long as you don't take the braille display at all.MPOWER. first, you gotta tare out the 2 back legs. at that point, you can remove the 6 screws, 2 in front, 2 in middle, 2 below what is now the exposed legs. the good news is, after taring out the legs, you can actually put them back, if they don't get too dirty. they won't lose their stickiness.once that's done, the MPOWER will fall in your lap. the first thing we will notice is the 2 sets of thumb keys are only held in by 2 wires at the edge. no screws, no clips, nothing. so as soon as I lift up the upper panel, the thumb keys start dangling in the air. next to that, we have the braille display, which is again, held in by 5 screws. when I unscrewed those 5 screws, I took off this metal sheet, that was above the display. I was able to partially remove the actual display, but those tough humanware wires. I don't have any knowledge of properly disconnecting those. but as long as you don't physically open up the display, it won't fall apart. now, at the bottom of the top panel, you find 6 standard, exactly like in a TV remote, batteries. since this MPOWER in question lost it's product key, and has a broken reset button, and I have one that works, I decided to rip out the batteries. so basically, the 6 batteries, tighed together with some kind of a tape, were taped down to the board. so I had to first destroy the tape on the frame, which I was able to do with my handy screw driver. I was able to, just like the braille display, remove the batteries. the idea was to put them into my other MPOWER, but again, the wires. basically, anyone who knows how to do the wires, you can replace the batteries, or even the display yourself, as long as you have another elemant to put in instead. of course the back panel, with all the ports is also visible. I'm not sure what you guys would like to know in particular, I may have missed something. I'd do a little audio demo, but I have nothing decent to record with. as for the back panel, the bottom of the unit, that just has some wires, and possibly the flash drive, etc. all in all, the apex and mPower seem to be using very similar, if not identical structure. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357311#p357311 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Nicads to be exact. not sure how common Batteries Plus's were at the time of the MPower's release, they probably had to be somewhat lesser known than they are now to justify HUmanware telling you to send it back to them for replacement. That being said, they use 6 nicad double-a's, so you do need to buy them from a shop - you won't have these lying around. And you can get them replaced, all upwards of $30. I know this because my braille-n-speak used the same batteries. $20 and the thing was good as new. Apex is where things get more custom-built as we do have a lithium ion battery, but at least it's user replaceable. By the way I will say that at the time of Nicad batteries it wasn't just HUmanware that asked you to send it back, pretty much everyone would. Those batteries can be dangerous if not disposed of properly, so companies could not advocate self-replacement. That being said though a lot of trusted shops are around that know exactly what they're doing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357214#p357214 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I'd like to know the specifications of the MPower and Apex. I heard the MPower uses Double A batteries. Is this true? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357207#p357207 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players speaking of humanware, having completely dismantled an MPOWER before, and having partially dismantled an apex, with the standard as you can ever get cross shaped screw driver, I totally understand you above. humanware's devices are laughable, and could be repaired by anyone and everyone. if there is enough interest, I can give a run down of the MPOWER. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357196#p357196 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I actually wonder what board it is. Feels pi-ish to me, but not the pi3. By the way, the Trek is using a Qualcom Snapdragon chipset. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357164#p357164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I got it. For anyone who may be having problems figuring this out, yes, there is a sticker on the sticker. There are, in fact, two stickers. One closer to the numbers on the keypad, and the other closer to the sleep and rewind/play/fast forward buttons. The sticker closer to the numbers is what you want, and it's pretty thick. You'll know it's the one because it covers that entire area, and has another smaller sticker at its center.Having done this procedure, and realizing just how dependent the Stream (or Trek) is on that card has once again amazed me. IDK, amazed isn't really the word. I've seen it for years. But...Stepping slightly back from the architectural differences that may exist, and the polishing that has undoubtedly been done, the stream is basically a Pi 3 with a battery, keypad, speaker and mic! And in the case of the Trek, including a GPS receiver and vibration motor. For $400-$700?Yeah, I know. HW is a company just like any other, working with the small AT market, and this is nothing new. But... Still!Anyway, I'll shut up. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357156#p357156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Samy, since it's been a while, check your pm's. You've got one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=355845#p355845 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Here are the steps to clone the internal MicroSD card to a new, bigger MicroSD card for Victor Reader Stream (New Generation).1. Connect the internal MicroSD card to a Linux box, and create a disk image of the internal MicroSD card.sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=disk_image.rawNote: The "/dev/sdb" part may change on your system, use "dmesg | tail" command to find your device identifier. Use the correct device identifier here, and in the following steps as well.2. Remove the original internal MicroSD card, and connect the new, bigger MicroSD card. Restore the disk image to the new MicroSD card. sudo dd if=disk_image.raw of=/dev/sdb3. Use GParted to resize /dev/sdb4 to maximum size (minus 1 MB at the end) first. Once this is done, resize /dev/sdb7 to the maximum size (minus 1 MB at the end).4. Safely eject your newly cloned MicroSD card and plug it into Victor Reader Stream.5. Enjoy the increased internal free space URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=350791#p350791 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Well, I have 2 furbies, but these are from Germany, the one from 98 and the one from 2005 and I do not know if can I kange them into english. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346181#p346181 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2018-01-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Speaking of which, the Braille Note Touch has an internal removable SD card as well. I don't think this was present on older devices, certainly not the Bok Port Plus, although it's likely that it runs Linux, which means you have to unscrew the device.Maybe while we're at it we can start another topic about hacking the chips inside toys, like Furbys and changing the voices. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346180#p346180 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Almost every micro sd card comes with an adapter, so if you buy a cheap micro sd you can easily get the adapter you need. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346175#p346175 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @Ethin From the pictures, it seems to be a standard big SD card, and not a MicroSD card. Many laptops accept SD cards just fine.Update: It could be a miniSD card but it is hard to tell from the photos. Maybe other folks from this thread would be able to say exactly what kind of card it is.Update 2: It does look like a MicroSD card after all. MicroSD to SD adapters are easily available and your card reader may already accept MicroSD devices. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346124#p346124 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @Ethin From the pictures, it seems to be a standard big SD card, and not a Micro SD card. Many laptops accept SD cards just fine.Update: It could be a miniSD card but it is hard to tell from the photos. Maybe other folks from this thread would be able to say exactly what kind of card it is. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346124#p346124 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @Ethin From the pictures, it seems to be a standard big SD card, and not a Micro SD card. Many laptops accept SD cards just fine. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346124#p346124 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @samy, micro SD cards can't just be plugged into SD card readers and be read from. The problem with these tiny cards is their size. It is extremely easy to lose one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346103#p346103 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I was able to verify that upgrading OpenSSL is possible.$ MALLOC_CHECK_=0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. qemu-arm ./wget --no-check-certificate https://localhost:4443/msg.txtThe wget binary comes from the VRStream 2 firmware, and it running with an updated OpenSSL version which was compiled by meBefore I proceed, can someone here help me in obtaining a copy of /dev/mmcblk0p1? This is the first partition of the internal Micro SD card, and I suspect that it contains U-Boot, which is a bootloader. This step does not involve any write operations, and is fully safe. Take out the internal Micro SD card, and attach it to a computer.Once done, something like dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p1 of=file-to-be-shared or similar should work for Linux users. Please let me know if you are using some other operating system, and would like some help in figuring out this stuff. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346084#p346084 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @Chris Thanks for chiming in. (1) I don't have the exact hardware specifications so far (2) Yes, I understand the problems involved. Hence, I am actively trying to find alternate ways in which VRStream 2 owners can help. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346086#p346086 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I was able to verify that upgrading OpenSSL is possible.$ MALLOC_CHECK_=0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. qemu-arm ./wget --no-check-certificate https://localhost:4443/msg.txtThe wget binary comes from the VRStream 2 firmware, and it running with an updated OpenSSL version which was compiled by meBefore I proceed, can someone here help me in obtaining a copy of /dev/mmcblk0p1? This is the first partition of the internal Micro SD card, and I suspect that it contains U-Boot, which is a bootloader. This step does not involve any write operations, and is fully safe. Take out the internal Micro SD card, and attach it to a computer.Once done, something like dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p1 of=file-to-be-shared or similar should work for Linux users. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346084#p346084 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Hello,What does the modified firmware do? I'd also like to know more info about the processor, RAM, and total disk size of the Micro SD card. I don't think I'll be modifying the software as it would be really hard to repair seeing as how it's a blindness product. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346055#p346055 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @samy, if you can get this going and get a true stable environment working I'd love to help. The OpenSSL libraries most definitely need to be updated, as well as the kernel, though I doubt we could do that safely without ruining the system entirely (my luck with building custom kernels is well not very lucky for me). But OpenSSL definitely, definitely needs to be updated. The latest version of openssl is 1.1.0G on Nov. 02, 2017. We can't have unsecure streams URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=346040#p346040 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Take a look at the initial messages posted to this thread. They talk about how one can access the internal Micro SD storage of VRStream 2 device through the battery compartment.Since I don't have the hardware myself, I am trying to make progress from the "other" side. The "other" side involves flashing a custom firmware, getting SSH (and other things) running on the device, and making further progress from there. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345882#p345882 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players VRStream 2 has a very standard ARMv5 processor, and software-wise it is running a 2.6.x Linux kernel with glibc 2.9 and OpenSSL 1.0.0d.I have a compiler toolchain which targets VRStream 2 working now. I am now looking for help in finding out if custom firmware images can be flashed to a VRStream 2 device. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345883#p345883 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
2018-01-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Can you describe the process through which you were able to access the internal space of the Victor Reader Stream? What firmware operating system does it use? Did you have to use SSH or Bash? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345874#p345874 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I have been able to develop a modified firmware for VRStream 2. It doesn't have extra functionality for now as I want to rule out flashing/bricking issues first.The modified firmware should not brick the VRStream 2 device but if it does, it is 100% possible to unbrick the device if you have access to the internal Micro SD card.I am now looking for some brave adventurous folks to give this a try. Please send me a private message if you want to play with this stuff. Thanks! :-) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=345870#p345870 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players @samy, I don't mean to destroy your hopes or anything, but the victor reader stream/trek firmware is not a normal Linux OS. Added to that is the fact that the libraries are statically linked and the kernel is heavily modified and developing a firmware then becomes most likely impossible without the libraries Humanware used, and the likelihood of you getting access to that is nil. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=344825#p344825 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2017-12-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I am hoping to get a Victor Reader Trekk. I used to have a Victor Stream, but it belonged to the regional service district and so I had to return it. But I have a Book Port Plus. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=344757#p344757 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Hi,I am interested in developing a custom firmware for Victor Reader Stream device but I don't know if doing so is possible yet. Do you have a Victor Reader Stream device which you want to experiment on? If yes, please PM me and we can get the custom firmware project going.Thanks! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=344715#p344715 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players
2017-07-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Hello, I found this topic whilst browsing, and it's something that I've been fascinated with as well.For example, I just got a book port plus yesterday. I updated it to the latest version, but I don't like the new Samantha voice. I frankly like the one that came before the update. This one is harder to understand. I did hear about the automotive version of the voice though, but what seems odd is that Samantha is the only voice that was changed. Tom still remains to be compact. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=319229#p319229 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players So you're saying there's more than one sticker on the battery cavity? I e, a sticker under the obvious noticeable one? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318957#p318957 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Unfortunately, I can't be of much more help here. The sticker wasn't all that easy to get off, but it should come without too much force. You may need to get someone to eye ball it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318955#p318955 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I'm putting nails in the area in between the cavity and the near top of the device with the battery latch, but the thing isn't moving. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318953#p318953 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Sounds like the exact same way the Pen Friend secures the micro SD card it uses for its internal storage. If it is, the metal cover over the micro SD card should slide down without too much force, then hinge up with no force at all allowing you to remove the micro SD card. You shouldn't have to worry about the orientation of the micro SD card because it will fit into the socket only one way.Then you should be able to put the micro SD card in a reader and see everything that's on it.Sounds easy enough to do, but I'm not going to touch my Stream. This is for braver hearts and minds than mine. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318950#p318950 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Ok. Is that plastic covering normal? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318947#p318947 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players The door lifts up and rests against the end of the player. You slide the door away from the battery latch, then lift it up. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318945#p318945 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Where should I start sliding, and how hard should I slide it? It's a plastic thing with a square in the middle and what appear to be indentations on the other sides. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318937#p318937 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players My sticker came off as just a sheet with no adhesive, the rest of the adhesive left on the player. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318933#p318933 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I'm wondering if maybe all of the sticker didn't come off. Mine came off as one rectangular sheet, with no adhesive left behind.Does anyone have a way of getting in touch with Konrad so he could chime in here? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318925#p318925 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players And do you mean put a fingernail in that slit between the two parts of the casing, then pull it open? Although you did say you had to slide it so doubt that's the way. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318924#p318924 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I removed the sticker. You know, the one that covers about half the width of that area. The one that's obvious that it's a sticker. So you're saying there's a sticker under that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318922#p318922 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players The entire area over that sd card is a sticker. I needed to get a finger nail under it to remove it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318921#p318921 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players And I believe the sticker I removed from the battery compartment was the only sticker there is. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318920#p318920 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Well the good thing is you're not unscrewing anything, so there's absolutely no risk of physical damage to the stream, no static discharge, no stuff like that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318918#p318918 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players One thing I'm thinking regarding this thread is that it would be nice to gain access to the internal storage on the Stream and the Trek when its released and I get mine. I have about 40 BARD books, and 25 book share books in the Stream that I'll want to transfer to the Trek without having to use the Victor Reader's rather slow methods. Preferably without having to do anything physically to the Stream or the Trek that you wouldn't do when using it normally.Hopefully Humanware will come up with something by the time the Trek is shipping.The Humanware Companion program works, but is rather slow. I'll use that if nothing better comes around. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318917#p318917 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Chris, being a Linux micro sd card, it must come with a fat32 partition called boot, unless the linux partition was seriously modified in a way that that was removed. Hint hint, if you put an empty file with no extension called ssh into the root of a boot partition, generally speaking, you can get ssh running on it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318913#p318913 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players It's that area nearest the battery latch. I press and I feel a square which must be the card, and if I press to the left or right of that, it appears to be holes underneath, or at least indents. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318912#p318912 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players What are the partitions on the card? I know data must be something like 2.67 GB in size. The original second gen Stream only came with a 4 GB card? That is sad. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318911#p318911 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players If you press on the area where the sticker is, you can actually feel the card under it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318910#p318910 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players how large was the sticker you removed? It covers the whole space above that ridge. The smaller section, not the larger one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318908#p318908 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players I feel the 3 battery contact ridges of course, then plastic casing, then moving up I feel the very small space in between 2 pieces, then what feels like plastic casing is the area where I removed the sticker, with residue from the adhesive still on it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318902#p318902 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players By the way, my stream2 is the 2 gig model, if that makes any difference. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318903#p318903 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players that's odd. Maybe. Can you feel the little metal door over the card? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318900#p318900 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Just found out the adhesive isn't effective by the way. It's probably just residue. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318901#p318901 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Nothing's sliding, but there's adhesive on the back of the unit, not the sticker. The sticker has no adhesive whatsoever, i e, I could reattach it and it would stick to the back. Must not be able to slide then? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318899#p318899 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Well, the sticker's off, and the back is where the adhesive is, not the sticker itself. Now for the door itself. What's the trick to that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318897#p318897 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players The door slides, then lifts up. If you slide it toward the end wher the battery contacts are, you should feel a click. You can then lift it up.No, I think that adhesive is pretty much gone once you remove that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318898#p318898 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Well, the sticker's off, and the back is where the adhesive is, not the ticker itself. Now for the door itself. What's the trick to that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318897#p318897 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Oh, and that would explain why the sticker is harder to remove. Because of what's under it. Lol! Thing though, is does the adhesive remain, or is it a once and done? Just wondering in case that door isn't exactly secure. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318895#p318895 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players That's weird. I actually asked him a similar thing, well I actually asked him if there was a debug mode to back up my internal sd card on my old stream2 because the sd card reader broke and was no longer reading cards. He gave me an honest answer of no, that there was no debug mode, or at least no user accessible one. I was thinking if he repaired the device and put new micro sd cards in, he'd know. And he did, and the answer was no, and that's completely understandable. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318894#p318894 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Hi,No, the internal Micro SD card is under a sticker in the battery compartment. All you need to do is take out the battery and remove the sticker. Then the sd card is under a little door that pops up.I thought about resizing the SD card, but wasn't sure what needed to be resized. There are several partitions, only one of which is the actual data partition. I tried resizing the data partition and that didn't work. I was asking Konrad for advice, so maybe he doesn't want to talk to me if I don't want to buy a card from him. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318891#p318891 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Are you telling me the micro sd card isn't soldered into the stream 2? Are you getting the thing open on your own too with its 2 screws in the top left and right side of the stream? Also, that's weird. Konrad usually responds to emails. I sold my phone to him a while back. Why not try again? And what exactly do you mean by rom recovery? The diagnostics menu? If you're gonna do this yourself, you probably also need to resize the card using linux. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318883#p318883 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Accessing the internal disk of Digital Book Players Hi all,Just found this topic after doing some google searching.I have found out that it is possible to replace the built-in memory in the stream in order to allow you to store more data from services like Daisy Direct to Player and podcasts.You do this by removing the built-in micro-sd card and replacing it with a new one.The stream firmware is also stored on this card.There is a guy that will sell you a card for around $37 that is already upgraded, but I really want to do it myself.Also, I have tried contacting him and am not getting any response.When I tried taking an image of the old 4gb internal card and writing it to a 32gb card, the stream wouldn't boot and went into a rom recovery mode.32gb cards should work, since I know someone who bought a 32gb card from the guy I mentioned earlier.So, are there any hacker types on here that would be willing to help me figure this out? I'm familiar with Linux, but am probabl y missing something. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318881#p318881 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
