Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Okay!The info folks are looking for, can be found at https://basilisk.cebix.net/, where it states the following in part:"Basilisk II is an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator. That is, it allows you to run 68k MacOS software on your computer, even if you are using a different operating system. However, you still need a copy of MacOS and a Macintosh ROM image to use Basilisk II. Basilisk II is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)."(See web site for more info.) Now, here's the thing. I did make a thread about the Macintosh.JS Emulator (which you can find over here, which has an article from The Verge in there. The creator of said Electron app, gave me the Outspoken file for it (however he has not made a precompiled version of it on his GitHub yet.) As for the old VM which I use to have the setup file for? Well... The old thread of it, I made disappear, most folks know where to find it if you're looking for it, and regardless of it being Open Source, best to find me on Twitter if you're wanting the web site.So not to derail this thread about I-Message and stuff any longer, I shall talk more about that Macintosh.JS thing in the thread I made (which I linked above.)Update!I did get OutSpoken working. I originally shared the info here, though I'm gonna instead share it in my Macintosh.JS thread instead, since it makes more sense. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569483/#p569483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Okay!The info folks are looking for, can be found at https://basilisk.cebix.net/, where it states the following in part:"Basilisk II is an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator. That is, it allows you to run 68k MacOS software on your computer, even if you are using a different operating system. However, you still need a copy of MacOS and a Macintosh ROM image to use Basilisk II. Basilisk II is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)."(See web site for more info.) Now, here's the thing. I did make a thread about the Macintosh.JS Emulator (which you can find over here, which has an article from The Verge in there. The creator of said Electron app, gave me the Outspoken file for it (however he has not made a precompiled version of it on his GitHub yet.) As for the old VM which I use to have the setup file for? Well... The old thread of it, I made disappear, most folks know where to find it if you're looking for it, and regardless of it being Open Source, best to find me on Twitter if you're wanting the web site.Sadly, I don't know if OutSpoken from Alva Group is considered "abandoned ware" or not.#GrayAreaOutSpoken does have a 20 Minute demo regardless, so there's that. Replacing the "disk" file found in the %APPDATA%\macintosh.js folder, "should" make OutSpoken come up, though don't take my word for it on how well it'll work.So not to derail this thread about I-Message and stuff any longer, I shall talk more about that Macintosh.JS thing in the thread I made (which I linked above.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569483/#p569483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Okay!The info folks are looking for, can be found at https://basilisk.cebix.net/, where it states the following in part:"Basilisk II is an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator. That is, it allows you to run 68k MacOS software on your computer, even if you are using a different operating system. However, you still need a copy of MacOS and a Macintosh ROM image to use Basilisk II. Basilisk II is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)."(See web site for more info.) Now, here's the thing. I did make a thread about the Macintosh.JS Emulator (which you can find over here, which has an article from The Verge in there. The creator of said Electron app, gave me the Outspoken file for it (however he has not made a precompiled version of it on his GitHub yet.) As for the old VM which I use to have the setup file for? Well... The old thread of it, I made disappear, most folks know where to find it if you're looking for it, and regardless of it being Open Source, best to find me on Twitter if you're wanting the web site.Sadly, I don't know if OutSpoken from Alva Group is considered "abandoned ware" or not.#GrayAreaOutSpoken does have a 20 Minute demo regardless, so there's that. Replacing the "disk" file found in the %APPDATA%\macintosh.js folder, "should" make OutSpoken come up, though don't take my word for it on how well it'll work.So not to derail this thread about I-Message and stuff any longer, I sall talk more about that Macintosh.JS thing in the thread I made (which I linked above.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569483/#p569483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Okay!The info folks are looking for, can be found at https://basilisk.cebix.net/, where it states the following in part:"Basilisk II is an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator. That is, it allows you to run 68k MacOS software on your computer, even if you are using a different operating system. However, you still need a copy of MacOS and a Macintosh ROM image to use Basilisk II. Basilisk II is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)."(See web site for more info.) Now, here's the question. I did make a thread about the Macintosh.JS Emulator (which you can find over here, which has an article from The Verge in there. The creator of said Electron app, gave me the Outspoken file for it (however he has not made a precompiled version of it on his GitHub yet.) As for the old VM which I use to have the setup file for? Well... The old thread of it, I made disappear, most folks know where to find it if you're looking for it, and regardless of it being Open Source, best to find me on Twitter if you're wanting the web site.Sadly, I don't know if OutSpoken from Alva Group is considered "abandoned ware" or not.#GrayAreaOutSpoken does have a 20 Minute demo regardless, so there's that. Replacing the "disk" file found in the %APPDATA%\macintosh.js folder, "should" make OutSpoken come up, though don't take my word for it on how well it'll work.So not to derail this thread about I-Message and stuff any longer, I sall talk more about that Macintosh.JS thing in the thread I made (which I linked above.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569483/#p569483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Okay!The info folks are looking for, can be found at https://basilisk.cebix.net/, where it states the following in part:"Basilisk II is an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator. That is, it allows you to run 68k MacOS software on your computer, even if you are using a different operating system. However, you still need a copy of MacOS and a Macintosh ROM image to use Basilisk II. Basilisk II is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)."(See web site for more info.) Now, here's the question. I did make a thread about the Macintosh.JS Emulator (which you can find over here, which has an article from The Verge in there. The creator of said Electron app, gave me the Outspoken file for it (however he has not made a precompiled version of it on his GitHub yet.) As for the old VM which I use to have the setup file for? Well... The old thread of it I made I since made disappear, most folks know where to find it if you're looking for it, and regardless of it being Open Source, best to find me on Twitter if you're wanting the web site.Sadly, I don't know if OutSpoken from Alva Group is considered "abandoned ware" r not.#GrayArea URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569483/#p569483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Okay!The info folks are looking for, can be found at https://basilisk.cebix.net/, where it states the following in part:"Basilisk II is an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator. That is, it allows you to run 68k MacOS software on your computer, even if you are using a different operating system. However, you still need a copy of MacOS and a Macintosh ROM image to use Basilisk II. Basilisk II is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)."(See web site for more info.) Now, here's the question. I did make a thread about the Macintosh.JS Emulator (which you can find over here, which has an article from The Verge in there. The creator of said Electron app, gave me the Outspoken file for it (however he has not made a precompiled version of it on his GitHub yet.) As for the old VM which I use to have the setup file for? Well... The old thread of it I made I since made disappear, most folks know where to find it if you're looking for it, and regardless of it being Open Source, best to find me on Twitter if you're wanting the web site.Sadly, I don't knw if OutSpoken from Alva Group is considered "abandoned ware." URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569483/#p569483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? So is there a link to the custom Basilisk thing in #25?I did a quick search, didn't find much URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569421/#p569421 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
2020-09-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ilyas booneehee via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? the windows equivalent of the command key is windows URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569383/#p569383 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
2020-09-10
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Not trying to sound stupid or anything, but what is the windows equivelent of the command key? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569380/#p569380 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Duo is decent to good depending on your device, but Duo in this case is not the problem. No school worth their salt would use Duo, the meeting platform is called Google Meet. Duo makes itself clear that it is the consumer option, while Meet is for enterprise. Seems like they're trying to take a cheap way out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569378/#p569378 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? @29 I will say this verry fast Duo is great and I do like more then Facetime and I am able to share my screen with the group call and or single person. I want to also point out maby you did not spend too much time with the app to know how it works. Their is also the web version you have to try if you didn't like the app. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569377/#p569377 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Command F5 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569374/#p569374 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
2020-09-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : RTT entertainment via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Hi.So, if I install a mack emulator, which command do I press to turn on the voice over?Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569305/#p569305 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? i think its ok. but it stoped detecting my webcam so its not good at all. before that it was good. but what education anything would use that URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569222/#p569222 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? i think its ok. but for me it stoped detecting my pc webcam at all. so maybe its not so good. skype is better. and what school distric, i am guessing, would use google duo URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569222/#p569222 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Google Duo sucks. He pulled out a bunch of white strands of hair because I couldn't turn off the group video call function. We are in 2020. There should be no more this problem for any application, especially not for a company as big as Google. Some of you will tell me that I am not obliged to use it, but I will have to contradict them. I needed it for online school and it was a nightmare. I gave it 1 star in both Google play and the Appstore. On the last day I uninstalled it earlier. The computer science teacher was late, and I thought we weren't teaching.But I'm not sorry. At least I got rid of that garbage app faster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569205/#p569205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? @Nidza07:No. We're talking OS7 with outspoken. So not jst pre-iMessage, preVoiceover. I would assume this is actually legal if OS7 was among the distributions released as freeware by Apple themselves, so if you wouldn't mind holding off on posting the links if you have any so I can look this up, I will get back to y'all on the status of this from a distribution standpoint. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569172/#p569172 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? no they do not. i dont know when i message was a thing. but it was well after osx i am prety sure URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569168/#p569168 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Do those have anything to do with IMessage though? I have never used them so that's why I'm asking, it seems to me that those were before IMessage was even a thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569166/#p569166 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
2020-09-09
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? for classic mac OS (pre OSX), try jake's custom build of basilisk 2, which already has the required bios and OS with the outspoken screen reader installed. from what I heard, apple released some older mac OS classic versions as freeware for preservation purpuses. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569161/#p569161 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? @23OK, that article is brilliant. You should have just let that do your arguing for you in the first place. Some very convincing arguments in there, and I really appreciate how you went out of your way to keep your review unbiased and fair. Well done. Thank you for taking the time to post it in the first place, and link to it here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569125/#p569125 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Well, I can't really say anything useful to you Meatbag. If your conclusion is that I don't know anything about Android, maybe you should read my posts a few more times. I have used an Android phone as my primary device for about 5 years. Not only that, I did not say Android sucks, I want it to go away. I have a secondary Android device to stay up to date with Talkback, and I will continue to do so, and hopefully one day see major improvements.It's funny that the things the majority seems to hate about Android, I actually like. Circular menus for example are a great thing, and allow you to perform actions a lot quicker than in a list, so I have always used them in this stile. I don't even mind the angle gestures at all, and I actually wish Voiceover had them as then I could add even more commands. Another thing Talkback does extremely well is volume management, though this if your device is at least Android 8. I like having separate screen reader volume I can adjust.To conclude, I will only send a nice blog post talking about Voiceover and Talkback, the majority of which I agree with. It's a little out of date, though most things still apply, other than the fact Talkback does now have a braille keyboard. It is on Applevis, though I feel that the writer did a great job of balancing it and it's not one of those Android sucks posts. The things mentioned are my major problems with Android's accessibility.You can read it at https://www.applevis.com/blog/voiceover … other-side URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569123/#p569123 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? To put the "Android" stuff to rest here (just so that people are not miss lead:1.With the Voice Assistant screen reader on Samsung devices, you are able to "mute/unmute" the TTS at anytime by doing a "two-finger-quadrupole-Tap" (or press Alt+Space") to toggle the speech at will.2. Although Android 11 has officially been released on the Pixel and some other stock Android devices, the Talkback screen reader help pages:https://support.google.com/talkback, have not been updated yet to reflect the upcoming Talkback changes (since as of this post), the big update hasn't been out yet.PS. Google's I-Message/FaceTime equivalent for Android devices, is Google Duo especially since you are now able to have group calls up to "32 people" along with writing messages. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569118/#p569118 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? To put the "Android" stuff to rest here (just so that people are not miss lead:1.With the Voice Assistant screen reader on Samsung devices, you are able to "mute/unmute" the TTS at anytime by doing a "two-finger-quadrupole-Tap" (or press Alt+Space" to toggle the speech at will.2. Although Android 11 has officially been released on the Pixel and some other stock Android devices, the Talkback screen reader help pages:https://support.google.com/talkback, have not been updated yet to reflect the upcoming Talkback changes (since as of this post), the big update hasn't been out yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569118/#p569118 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Back to topic: despite the legality, my PC is very well able to run Mac OS at very good speed and response times, although my machine is a monster of a PC. I however made it run on my much slower laptop, although still stable, but it just got 8 Gigs of ram and a 2,6 GHZ i7 CPU and it still ran smoothly and deffinitely fast enough to only check your iMessages, so yeah. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569103/#p569103 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? apple can do that? dam. but i dont have apple care or anything like that. i have a warenty with my phone provider. so idk if i can have it looked at at all. oh and my iphone, an iphone 6 s i think, gets warm write below the power button. is that bad?. it doesnt even take that long. maybe 5 mintes. i do have an old android phone that is setup. i just would have to put my sim card in it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569090/#p569090 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? apple can do that? dam. but i dont have apple care or anything like that. i have a warenty with my phone provider. so idk if i can have it looked at at all. oh and my iphone, an iphone 6 s i think, gets warm write below the power button. is that bad?. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569090/#p569090 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? apple can do that? dam. but i dont have apple care or anything like that. i have a warenty with my phone provider. so idk if i can have it looked at at all. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569090/#p569090 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? I am an Android fan . I know that already. What i saying is people don't want to learn how to use Android and they just say Android is bad URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569086/#p569086 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? @12OK, wow, I didn't realise VoiceOver let you configure stuff like that. That's a very useful feature to be sure. Sounds like it's kind of closing the gap between touchscreen and desktop usage, which can only be a good thing.If by hidden behind the context menus you mean the local context menu, then it's not. You can access it by simply assigning a gesture.@13OK, sorry if I kind of flew off the handle at you. Variations on this topic seem to come up a lot with my more techy friends. I'm more than happy to be trolled for my unpopular life choices, but inevitably bystanders take the trolling as factual, and don't even give Android a go.The first argument most people come up with against android is "You have to draw that stupid circle thing to access the context menus", which AFAIK hasn't been the norm since Android 7.I haven't noticed any lag I must admit, but then maybe I'm used to it because I've not used a recent iPhone for anything serious. Also, my views on lag are kind of tempered I suppose because honestly, I hate using the damn thing for anything more serious than GPS and reading the news. I use a computer for Whatsapp, messages, and I avoid phoning people haha.@15It reads to me like @nidza07 has learnt quite a lot. Also, the arguments put forward in post 12 prove that any disagreement is definitely not born of ignorance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569082/#p569082 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? @rings2006: Get it looked at, your battery might be aging, or Apple might be throttling it.@Meatbag: If you are referring to Talkback not being installed on certain phones: that is, like, almost 100% untrue today, more applicable to the Froyo/Gingerbread/Icecream Sandwich days. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569079/#p569079 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? some phones have it installed. some dont. and sory for going off topic but, my iphone shut down randomly and said that your iphone has expereanced an unexpected shut down because the battery could not deliver the peak performance or something like that and it has ijusted the performance accordingly. is my phone broken? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569077/#p569077 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? If you are unwilling to learn don't say Android is bad. At 12 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569073/#p569073 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? When you first purchase a Droid phone, does TalkBack already come installed or do you have to find a way to go and download it from somewhere? I've always been curious about that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569072/#p569072 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? I didn't say unviable, I just said worse. If they fixed the speech latency and gesture scaling problems, it might not be so bad now, but those were some pretty big limitations, and someone who's more up to date on this was saying it was still a problem as of 6 months ago. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569067/#p569067 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? No, I can survive without a magic tap, that isn't an issue. I am perfectly aware that talkback lets you define your own gestures, in fact I am sure that is where VO's inspiration for that feature came.Except, you can define I don't know, maybe 20 commands. If you take a look at Voiceover's settings, you will see various options from moving to next and previous heading, button, link, anything that's available from a keyboard, to going back, home, app switcher, and much, much more. I recommend just going through the list with both screen readers, you will certainly see the difference.Yes, Talkback does have a languages menu. Not only is it hidden behind Google's stupid contextual menus, it is also still very problematic, because this languages menu will list only the languages for the current TTS. So if you want, let's say to switch from Google TTS to your configured Spanish Eloquence, good luck, because that's not really possible. Granted, this was a dumb example since Spanish has Google TTS, but Serbian certainly doesn't.As for the headings navigation, not only is it not as fast as the rotor, I don't even use the rotor anymore for this. I have assigned 3 finger swipes left and right to go to previous and next heading, so with one swipe, boom, the focus goes there, which is just as good as pressing H on a keyboard. I don't need to swipe around any menu to choose headings, it is just there.This about turning speech off being a sensible choice, I don't even want to comment on that. Sorry, but that's stupid. So NVDA is dumb for having Insert plus s? Jaws for having insert space, s? No, rather this is a basic feature.Braille back is cool, except it's extremely out of date, and no, it can't be used independently of Talkback, you must have it on all the time. Not only on, but also speaking, thanks to Google's brilliant and sensible decision not to have a speech toggle.There, hope that addresses your points, and thanks for a good response. We can certainly constructively continue discussion this in another topic.BoBonus tip, check out Voiceover activities. That is an extra feature allowing you to have app specific settings, I am sure we won't be seeing this on Droid anytime soon, and in fact we should not. I'd love the basic things fixed first before we move to that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569066/#p569066 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Sorry for the double post.@9I agree. I started on Android as 6.1 was coming out. It wasn't the best experience, but my iPhone was annoying me far too much, so I was happy to put up with it.What gets me is that the people who slam Android don't seem to have tried Android in the 4-5 versions since, so the information they're passing off as factual isn't quite as true anymore.Admittedly, when I'm helping people who are new to smartphones choose their first phone, I recommend they get an iPhone, because it "just works", but iOS to Android is hardly Windows to Linux accessibility wise, and one bloke I showed both systems to actually went with Android, and is still happily using a Nexus 6P as far as I know.I'm just wanting people to give Android the same impartiality that die-hard apple fans insist we give to OS X. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569063/#p569063 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? OK, I realise I'm kind of dragging this further off topic, and if people want to continue this discussion, I reckon we should probably create a new thread.OK, I've put my answers to your questions below:Q: nidza07 wrote:How do you use a braille display without speech?A: I have no idea. I don't use one. There's BrailleBack, and I believe you can use it independently of Talkback, but please don't quote me on that.Q: nidza07 wrote:How do you turn TalkBack speech off without turning off the screen reader itself?A: I don't think you can. You can turn the accessibility volume almost all of the way down, but I appreciate that isn't exactly what you asked.That said, as being able to turn off the speech while leaving VoiceOver active is the most common problem people come to us with at the devices workshop I help out with, and being able to completely turn VoiceOver down until the speech and sounds become audible is the second most common, I'd call this a sensible design decision overall.Q: nidza07 wrote:How do you navigate by headings on a web page with a single gesture?A: I've remapped my gestures, so that up and down move through granularity settings. On a webpage, I swipe down once, and I'm on headings. Then I can swipe right to move through them. I suppose that's not quite as quick as the rotor, since you can swipe down to move through headings while still going right to move to the next item.nidza07 wrote:I could go into detail and mention how VO just performs miles better in every way, but there is no point.I really wish you would, because I'm interested. Maybe create a new thread? What you describe just isn't my experience, and I've used iOS a lot in the past, and I use it fairly regularly these days helping out at the afore-mentioned workshop... Until March of course haha.nidza07 wrote:... In 2020, Talkback still does not have proper keyboard echo settings.It doesn't? My keyboard echoes just fine. Admittedly I've not used GBoard for ages, preferring Fleksy, and now the (admittedly very buggy) braille keyboard.nidza07 wrote:Screen reader basic features are still not implemented. Talkback still can't switch languages with it's own gestures, you have to open settings to do that.Not entirely. You can assign a gesture to bring up the list of languages supported by Talkback. I appreciate it may not be as quick as the rotor, but I personally always found the rotor extremely clunky and too slow for my liking anyways.nidza07 wrote:we won't even go into advanced things that VO can now do like allowing you to assign a gesture to pretty much any function you want, giving you quick access to what you personally need.Talkback has let you assign your own gestures for ages. I'm not sure what VoiceOver brings to the table in this regard, although I've not played around with VoiceOver settings to that extent.And if Talkback doesn't let you do it (like double tap with two fingers, which is the only thing I miss really), you can use MacroDroid, which I use so I can flip my phone to play and pause media, wave at it to go to the previous track, and shake it to go to the next track. I've also emulated the iOS thing where you take your phone away from your head and it goes onto loudspeaker.If that's not enough for you, there's always the enigmatic Tasker. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569060/#p569060 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Hi.@7, In the past, many other blind and VI people would never have bought a droid, and for good reason. At one point, yes. The accessibility of Droids wasn't the best. However, over the past few years, it has come a long way and is continuing to improve.@1, Do you have an iPod Touch or iPad? If you do then you can iMessage through that device URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569054/#p569054 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Um, worse does not mean not a viable option. Worse just means, worse, and the fact is that iOS is more accessible. If you want to proove me wrong, answer a few easy, basic screen reader questions. How do you use a braille display without speech? How do you turn Talkback's speech off without turning off the screen reader itself? How do you navigate by headings on a web page with a single gesture?I could go into detail and mention how VO just performs miles better in every way, but there is no point. I don't hate Android, I have no reason to do so. As an operating system, if I was sighted, I'd switch to Android right away. Why would I buy overpriced phones if I can get something a lot cheaper? Because as it stands, the screen reader benefits make it worth it. In 2020, Talkback still does not have proper keyboard echo settings. Screen reader basic features are still not implemented. Talkback still can't switch languages with it's own gestures, you have to open settings to do that. Once Google stops being lazy, they will have years of work to do to catch up. When and if they do, I am surely back on Android, because I love operating systems that let you do what you want. I covered just some basics, we won't even go into advanced things that VO can now do like allowing you to assign a gesture to pretty much any function you want, giving you quick access to what you personally need.Now, for the question in the OP, actually while it is true that you can run Mac OS virtually, the experience won't ever be really good and in my opinion, it isn't really worth it. If you need IMessage so bad, why not buy an SE 2020, or even the first SE? They are cheaper, and should work for that one feature you need. This is why Apple as a company just sucks and why the only reason I use iOS is accessibility, anything Apple makes will be their own proprietary work that you can't use anywhere else just because, Apple. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569040/#p569040 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Android is better than iOS but people don't want to learn Android. I would have said apple is not a good company for mobiles and computer but itll be off-topic URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569028/#p569028 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? @5I would respectfully - but forcefully - disagree with your last statement about other phone options being worse.As I keep trying to tell people, Android is a viable option for blind people, it's just a different way of working. The only stumbling block being that if you buy a £20 phone from your local supermarket - which many people seem to be tempted to do - you'll get £50's worth of performance. Stick with the Google Pixel line and you're guaranteed success. Any other models will possibly - even probably - work, but use them at your own risk.If people keep banging on about how much worse Android is than iOS, apart from disseminating false information, it perpetuates the notion that anything but iOS will not work.And for the record, I used an iPhone for way longer than I've used Android, and I used an iPhone for a few months year before last, so my experience is more current than many people who will happily tell you how bad the platform is.If this comes across as me being evangelical, it's because I've seen far too many people part with a lot of money for the latest iPhones without giving Android even a try, because someone they trusted said how it was awful, without substantiating their claims.Anyways, rant over, everyone go back to what you were doing before my high horse clattered through this topic haha. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569025/#p569025 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? you can also access messages on the web with Android. I have done this many times when I have my phone in my pocket and I am sitting on my desk using my PC, I was able to send messages very fast using my desktop. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569011/#p569011 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? you can't legally run a Mac VM on Windows without owning a Mac. Also, in general if you need to run a VM to get access to a specific messaging platform, then just keeping the iPhone is probably your best bet unless you're super super desperate for the money, especially since your other phone options are worse. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568999/#p568999 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? you can, if your pc stats allow it, run macosx under vm. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568981/#p568981 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? You can run a mac OS VM in e.g. VMWare Player, which works quite fine. There are quite alot tutorials and download links on the web to follows, just google it yourself and you'll be fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568980/#p568980 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Sadly, no, there is not an easy way to do that.Unless it was an “open sourced” method, it could not be linked here.Regardless, you would need to have a Mac in the first place. I Message ain’t coming to Windows anytime soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568977/#p568977 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Sadly, no, there is not an easy way to do that.Unless it was an “open sourced” method, it could not be linked here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568977/#p568977 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Talking mack/ios emulators for windows?
2020-09-09
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Talking mack/ios emulators for windows? Hi folks.So, as some of you may know, I'm about to sell my Iphone.However, I need a way to access Imessage.Is there an emulator that I can run under windows that is easy to set up and configure?Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568973/#p568973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
