Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Ok. The Sunu band is a plastic watch with a cylinder on one end, and two buttons on one side.The WeWalk is a flimzy cane with a rolling tip that has a big bulky handle. The handle is primarily plastic with a sort of rubberized grip, you have a button on the back, and on the top you have a glass trackpad that controls different functions of the cane.The cane does fold, but it's tricky to get the strap to go around the cane. The strap is not like other white canes, and it's a big huge elastic thing. So you have to wrap it around the cane a few times and do something else.I figured it out, but I really don't know how to explain it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500486/#p500486 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane People who are pissed about the water resistance, obviously this may vary from product to product but generally most things that aren't water resistant can withstand at least a little bit of rain. I haven't seen the WeWalk yet but if it doesn't have any huge or obvious openings it would probably be fine, the only time you wouldn't want to be using it would be, like, a thunderstorm or whatever where the rain is very heavy. Granted this is more of a problem in some parts of the US like florida in the summer, but you'd probably be fine here in the UK, and if it really did get bad you probably wouldn't want to be out there anyway, smart cane or no smart cane, you'd already have enough trouble navigating just because of the conditions.My self, I'm looking into getting one of these myself. I'd never herd of the other thing OP mentioned, so was wondering if anyone who's owned / seen both could give me a physical description of both devices. One thing I'm curious about is weather or not the WeWalk can fold, I'd hope so because if not that really is a huuge issue. judging from the OP's description the sunu or however it's called seems to be more of a watch / band of some description so the above question wouldn't apply. Please do correct me if I'm wrong though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500438/#p500438 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane No water propper water resistance is a bit of a turnoff for me for these products. I'd rather use my normal white cane and occasionally run into things I couldn't find rather than something that is ruined if some rain touches it. Though in terms of such tech in general, I'm hyped for advances in this field in the 20s. Since the tech you need to run such devices is getting even cheeper and even low-end sensors are becoming more powerful, I'm pretty confident we will see a propper smart cane that can do more than just being a shield for objects on the ground. It's just very unfortunate that the blind institutions over here can't seem to catch onto trends like these in a timely fassion, I've never heard of these things and people working with them till now, and never from any austrian institutions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500418/#p500418 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane The sunu is abit water resistant, like it can be touched by water, at least that is what they say.In my experience, it is water resistant, I was careful not to put it in water, but I always got some on it.To be honest, it feels cheap, it feels like a toy for the most part, but yeah, asistive products feel like that in my experience. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500367/#p500367 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane I just discovered something.So this week, I decided to go back to using my regular Ambutech White cane, because my mom and I want to return the WeWalk. I was using the WeWalk for almost a month: and I will say if you use WeWalk for a long time without using a standard cane, it may feel weird the next time you're using one URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500300/#p500300 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Honestly, since it's an assistive technology product, the fact that it's not water resistant doesn't surprise me. I've never heard of water resistant assistive technology products, but that's not to say they don't exist somewhere URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500238/#p500238 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane well this is interesting. I normally use the phone to have a sort of vague idea where some new place is, because for instance, lazarillo, the guide app is not really accurate.. so at one moment you might be arriving, and then a few seconds later you are still 200 meters away from the place, so this is a bit annoying since I really have not a clue if i just crossed the right street at the right time and or made the correct turn. As always people are thankfully helpful in this country so I have been using the phone less and less to orient myself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500197/#p500197 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane someone most like done that already, a search term like wewalk review can bring you some results URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500152/#p500152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane I wish someone could do a demo on these devices; It would be awesome for people who don't have access to them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500126/#p500126 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane wewalks is going to opensource some of its features sune enough to public for better flexibility, but yeah the waterproof thing is a mager problem URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500051/#p500051 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Is any of the software for this open source? I would love a fully open-source mobility aid. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500050/#p500050 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane I had brief interest in the Sunu band, but every review I've come across says that it feels like it will fall apart at any second.For $300, it should feel durable at the very least. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500045/#p500045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane one of my friends has one and hers is lasting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500046/#p500046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane I had brief interest in the Sunu band, but every review I've come across says that it feels like it will fall apart at any second.For $269, it should feel durable at the very least. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500045/#p500045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Hi.Wow, you can't use WeWalk in the rain, that's a huge oversite on their product. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500036/#p500036 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Seriously? Wow... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500016/#p500016 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane That may be true. I do know for sure that the WeWalk is not water proof at all, and they even tell you not to use it in rainy conditions URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/51/#p51 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Hello all!How about water resistance? I mean, both devices are used outside, usually not within your home. So if the whether gets rainy, what happens? which of the two devices is more water resistant?I was thinking about buying a Wewalk. A team of developers from Serbia made a prototype of a smart glove, which could tell you if there is an object near you, read colors and banknotes, vibrate according to the light intensity and a few more things. So once it goes out of the prototype stage, it mightreplace both devices.Best! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/50/#p50 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane I had a good experience with WeWalk's battery URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/47/#p47 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane If you have an android, get the beta version of the sunu app, it is much, much better than the stock one, that doesn't work for me, at least it didn't the last time I tryed it.How is the battery on the we walk? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/44/#p44 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Yes. Battery life is really good.I just tried it again and it worked. It found some restaurants around me and a couple of other things URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/499989/#p499989 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Re: Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane I have the sunu and it is good, battery life is good too at least on my unit, but I herd that some have problems.Yours might be a defective unit though, mine says that I have stuff around me.I don't like sunu's build quality, it is very easy to scratch and the top touch panel is made of a crap plastic with some bad athesive, you look on the sides and you will notice that it lifted abit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/499978/#p499978 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane
Sunu Band vs WeWalk smart cane Hello.This topic is going to discuss two mobility aids. The WeWalk smart cane, and the Sunu band. This will be done in sections, and I will talk about how each thing holds up, and at the end, I will tell you which device I prefer, and it is my hope that you will be able to get the right device after you have read this topic.So what am I waiting for? Let's get started!PortabilityFor anyone who has seen the WeWalk, you would know that it is a big bulky thing that everyone is going to notice. On the other hand, the Sunu band is a watch.Build qualityWhen it comes to the build quality, I give my point to Sunu. If you have seen the WeWalk, you may have noticed that the cane is very flimzy.AccuracyAgain, my point goes to the Sunu band. For those who don't know, the Sunu is worn on the wrist of the hand you do not use your cane in, and it is designed so that you can keep your hand at your side naturally. Also, unlike the WeWalk which has one solid vibration pattern to let you know something, the Sunu band slowly vibrates as you approach an object, and it is much easier to scan different areas. With the Sunu, you just turn your wrist in a certain direction and it will scan the area. With WeWalk, the sonar is on the top, and it can only scan straight ahead.SoftwareBoth devices have good software, but both have their share of problems.With the WeWalk, I feel like I get more information about my surroundings in terms of businesses. My Sunu always says there is nothing around me.HardwareThis may seem like something that goes under build quality, but not really.I like the Sunu because of its portability, but one thing I will give the WeWalk is the speaker that it has on the back.If you want audio from your Sunu, you have to use the iOS or Android app. Granted you have to on WeWalk, but you don't necessarily need your phone's sound on in order for it to work.Final thoughtsHonestly, I prefer the Sunu to the WeWalk because of the features I mentioned above. Both of them are good products in their own way, but disen it comes to obstacle detection, I give it to the Sunu because you have a better understanding of your environment.Any questions or other thoughts? Let me know URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/499975/#p499975 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? Yes. For $500, I hope they fix it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489113/#p489113 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? aa, its great, hope the problem will be fixed with the new one URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488991/#p488991 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? Well, we talked with them and they said it's a defective unit. They said they'd send one to me on Monday URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488984/#p488984 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? My mom e-mailed them, and we will be setting up a support video call URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488537/#p488537 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? i tolled you, its probably conflicting with the airpods that your usingyou might want to contact the support for more information URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488473/#p488473 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? I'm using my AirPods Pro, and whenever I use them, as long as the app is running in the background, it talks whenever I use the trackpad. Also, the power button seems to do nothing. It's either constantly vibrating, or the LED is blinking because it can't connect to my phone URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488470/#p488470 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? its fine at my and i'm using the ios app maybe try to lock the phone before using it?are you using headphones during that? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488388/#p488388 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? It seems to me as though for some reason, the cane is rooting its audio output through the app. I can't say for sure though. Vibration stops, but the problem is that the cane plays no sound what so ever URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488386/#p488386 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? vibrating is the indicator of object detecting, you can toggle it off from the app or from the touchpad with draging 2 fingers fromup to down or down to up i forgot wich one it isthe airpods are probably caliding with the cain, maybe you should give a feedback about that issue URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488329/#p488329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? I can control the cane and hear it if I use my AirPods, but if I don't do that I get no audio output. For those who have had it, did you experience this? How did you solve it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488327/#p488327 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? So I got the cane, and there's one problem. I can connect it with the app, but it keeps vibrating and won't play any sound. How can I fix this? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/488264/#p488264 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? Everything will be controlled with the trackpad on the back of the cane URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487775/#p487775 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? as long as the phone is in the bluetooth range, aroud 4 5 meters, its fine URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487721/#p487721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? Sure, I understand it's not meant to replace a cane. But if I end up having to pay more attention to all the vibration/haptic feedback than I normally do when I'm finding stuff, why should I bother, especially if the thing's significantly heavier than the canes I'm used to? Also if it's paired with my phone and that's how I control the information it's giving me, won't I still need to have my phone out anyhow? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487709/#p487709 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? hello Audacitythey never say that the use of the ain will be iliminated, this is just the improved version of a cain with advance features such as obstical detection, navigation app, and potential to improvecurrontly, lets say your moving somewhere and using navigation, you have to listen the enviroment, use your cain, and hold the phone with the other hand for instructions this product simply makes your other hand free, meaning you heard the insturctions from the cain insteaf of the phonecurrontly it's integrated with alexaand googlemap, but i heard that that functionalety will be combined with blindsquare and other apps in the near feuture URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487311/#p487311 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? Even the people who make the product tell us that you need confidence with the cane. This product does not aim to eliminate the cane, it only intends to improve it. They don't say that exactly, but that's the gist of the whole thing URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487309/#p487309 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? I haven't tried the cane and I'm sort of torn. New tech that increases independence is great. I'd love to be able to walk where I want to go with both hands free and not run the risk of tripping oblivious strangers. This feels a lot like a solution looking for a problem that isn't there, however. Like if you're already competent with a cane or dog what's this really giving you that you can't get more efficiently with other apps, and if you aren't competent with a cane or dog how will this help you anyhow? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487191/#p487191 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? i cant quite at the moment since i only used it once, will post my feedback when i receave the thing URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486973/#p486973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? @7 So you recommend it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486952/#p486952 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? honestly i dont have one of those myself, though getting one as a gift on ths satturday but, as far as i tested it, you should be confedent enough with a normal cain before using it. The cain wont help you if your independence is low with a cain, that really ont change anything.yeah the cain has so many downsides, such as beeing not waterproof, not enough apps integrated yet, but remember its still a new thing around.i can abel to do a test recording when i get it if i find a good mic enough. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486709/#p486709 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? I received one as a gift and I'm not impressed. It's easy to set up with the WeWalk app, but it honestly doesn't help that much. Don't get me wrong, I'm really trying not to bash the product. It's a great idea. However, I really don't find it very useful.The GPS is nice, but it's not what I personally want. I want something with a camera and object recognition, not something that just tells me to turn left in 100 meters onto another street. Where's the street? Exactly how far away is 100 meters? My spacial awareness is horrible, and this cane doesn't really help.I also find it very uncomfortable to hold due to the weight of the unit at the top. The vibration feedback is a nice idea, but I couldn't get the thing to stop vibrating even when I was in open space. I'll have to try it again and send this feedback to the developers. As I said, it's a nice idea, but not at all practical in my honest opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486503/#p486503 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? I received one as a gift and I'm not impressed. It's easy to set up with the WeWalk app, but it honestly doesn't help that much. Don't get me wrong, I'm really trying not to bash the product. It's a great idea. However, I really don't find it very useful.The GPS is nice, but it's not what I personally want. I want something with a camera and object recognition, not something that just tells me to turn left in 100 meters onto another street? Where's the street? Exactly how far away is 100 meters? My spacial awareness is horrible, and this cane doesn't really help.I also find it very uncomfortable to hold due to the weight of the unit at the top. The vibration feedback is a nice idea, but I couldn't get the thing to stop vibrating even when I was in open space. I'll have to try it again and send this feedback to the developers. As I said, it's a nice idea, but not at all practical in my honest opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486503/#p486503 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? I received one as a gift and I'm not impressed. It's easy to set up with the WeWalk app, but it honestly doesn't help that much. Don't get me wrong, I'm really trying not to bash the product. It's a great idea. However, I really don't find it very useful.The GPS is nice, but it's not what Ipersonally want. I want something with a camera and object recognition, not something that just tells me to turn left in 100 meters onto another street? Where's the street? Exactly how far away is 100 meters? My spacial awareness is horrible, and this cane doesn't really help.I also find it very uncomfortable to hold due tothe weight of the unit at the top. The vibration feedback is a nice idea, but I couldn't get the thing to stop vibrating even when I was in open space. I'll have to try it again and send this feedback to the developers. As I said, it's a nice idea, but not really practical in my honest opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486503/#p486503 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? Don't know if those canes are popular here, but I don't know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486486/#p486486 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? you simply downloading the app and the magic begins to happen URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486111/#p486111 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? Hi.The WeWalk cane uses sences to vibrate and tell the user how far things like walls are.it also uses Google Maps to help blind people get around.Personally I'd not use it as I've tried it at sight village and didn't like it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486088/#p486088 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk?
Re: Has anyone used WeWalk? What exactly is it, How is it different from normal canes? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486074/#p486074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Has anyone used WeWalk?
Has anyone used WeWalk? Hi.So my mom was looking into the WeWalk smart cane, and I was wondering one thing. Is the setup process hard? What are some good and bad things about the cane? Any information is very much appreciated URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486047/#p486047 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
2019-09-25
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Re: WeWalk? I believe, its an attachment to your cane. Its not a all out smart cane. Its a cane smartifier. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464200/#p464200 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? My dad made a sonar cane with like $30 of stuff from, like, Biglots or something, like 10-15 years ago, I forget precisely when. Making one that's good enough to be worth using is another matter.Mostly, two issues I have are: messing with the weight and balance of the cane, and how you get the information and whether or not that clashes with usual information channels. Headphones, hoods, etc obstruct my senses enough as is, but those are usually optional and can be worked with. Headphones with constant noise? Well, I haven't tried using the vOICe on the street, and I'd expect that to be comparable to most smartcanes in terms of information, if not better. Haptics? How's that work? Does it mess with how you use the cane at all?Give me glasses with vibrators in them, have them vibrate based on how far away the obstacle is. So instead of glasses, it's more like a Sonar ... crown? Halo? Tiara? Headband? Bandana? Helmet? Hat? ... Make it like the Burger King Crown, and call it the Echo King, or something like that. Sure, it'd look completely ridiculous, but the awesome kind of ridiculous. More importantly, it doesn't mess with normal cane use, and only obstructs normal acoustics about as much as normal headgear. Though, minimizing the acoustic obstruction would be real nice, too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464193/#p464193 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
2019-09-24
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Re: WeWalk? A guy in Trinidad tried to produce something like this a while ago. He didnt get funding. He is still developing it by himself and his friend. It is basically like the WeWalk. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464045/#p464045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? From what I have understood, this is something you attach to the handle of your cane, may be someone sighted fixes me if i'm wrong.This location is a great place, as it almost never gets hurt. I'm walking about 1,5 km to my school and another 1,5 km back to my home every day (excluding weekends of course). There were situations where i was very close to fall, there was one situation where I have really fallen down ironically on a place where I knew that this could happen, and there were situations when I have almost broken my cane under standing cars. But the cane's handle never get hurt, whatever stupidity I had managed to do.So from my experience only things this device would face are vibrations from cane hits and water, from wet hands, rain, or sweat.Also when an external keyboard for mobile phones for blind was introduced, I don't remember the name, for about 500 dollars, the reason of that price was, or at least one of local voluntary sellers have stated it, that blind people can request it from their state and it will pay it for them regardless of price, so having a higher price than minimal necessary can help in further development without users noticing the difference as they don't pay for it themselves.I don't know what is the situation in other parts of the world, but in Slovakia, this makes a sense. If you need something to compensate your disability, the state will pay it for you. Thus many of blind people here get things like Jaws licences, expensive laptops, mobile phones, braille displays, or even white canes completely free or just for minimal price.And a smart cane shouldn't be problem as well, if you can explain, what it is good for, although they perhaps won't give you two for a year like they do with normal canes I guess. But here is great the concept of attaching the device, so if you break your cane, you can just exchange them and continue using the smart cane, what would not be the case, if it was one product.i don't state now that overpricing is good or bad. I'm just saying, that from economical point of view, it makes a sense.Another thing is marketing, if they have something that really works, but that I have mentioned already in previous posts.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464038/#p464038 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? From what I have understood, this is something you attach to the handle of your cane, may be someone sighted fixes me if i'm wrong.This location is a great place, as it almost never gets hurt. I'm walking about 1,5 km to my school and another 1,5 km back to my home every day (excluding weekends of course). There were situations where i was very close to fall, there was one situation where I have really fallen down ironically on a place where I knew that this could happen, and there were situations when I have almost broken my cane under standing cars. But the cane's handle never get hurt, whatever stupidity I had managed to do.So from my experience only things this device would face are vibrations from cane hits and water, from wet hands, rain, or sweat.Also when an external keyboard for mobile phones for blind was introduced, I don't remember the name, for about 500 dollars, the reason of that price was, or at least one of local voluntary sellers have stated it, that blind people can request it from their state and it will pay it for them regardless of price, so having a higher price than minimal necessary can help in further development without users noticing the difference as they don't pay for it themselves.I don't know what is the situation in other parts of the world, but in Slovakia, this makes a sense. If you need something to compensate your disability, the state will pay it for you. Thus many of blind people here get things like Jaws licences, expensive laptops, mobile phones, braille displays, or even white canes completely free or just for minimal price.And a smart cane shouldn't be problem as well, if you can explain, what it is good for, although they perhaps won't give you two for a year like they do with normal canes I guess. But here is great the concept of attaching the device, so if you break your cane, you can just exchange them and continue using the smart cane, what would not be the case, if it was one product.i don't state now that overpricing is good or bad. I'm just saying, that from ekonomical point of view, it makes a sense.Another thing is marketing, if they have something that really works, but that I have mentioned already in previous posts.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464038/#p464038 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? as I understand it, the technological part of the thing is present only in the cable, being possible to even remove it and put in another cane URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464031/#p464031 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? $500 for a cane with electronic components that could easily be broken? Nah... I'm good. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463988/#p463988 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
2019-09-24
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Re: WeWalk? Where can I get info about this? If its 500 U S for this, its over priced. I mean, i could get my dad to make a nice cane for me for free, and, get my J6 Samsung to help me out and it still would come out less. Although, it sure would be more practical just to use the stick. And it would be less annoying when the teachers nag me about the cane. Acting as if the cane can see if a car is coming. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463982/#p463982 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? This is one of those things that sounds good but isn't practical due to its relatively high price tag and the small market. Add to that the small companies that seem to be making these types of products have little funding, so if a product is damaged in shipping, getting a replacement is either difficult or impossible. People's hearts are in the right place but they are obviously not aware of the fact that most blind people are on fixed incomes and use canes to avoid hitting things. This means that the cane hits things, sometimes quite hard. These delicate components aren't built to stand up to that abuse, thus more replacements necessary and more loss of money to the companies. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463973/#p463973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? @5: in my case the cap solution doesn't work. Even if the obstacle is in way of the peak, what is not necessarily the case, it can go under or above it, only effect it has is that the cap falls down and I bang my head into the obstacle.It works only on tiny branches, where it is not required, as my head do the job with the same quality. But for strong branches, for example when tree grows to the street directly from the ground i.e. you are likely to face one of its root branches, there is no chance.I don't know if it is because of my speed or my head's shape, but anyway, I would trust the sonar a bit more.However as i said before, I would need to see it in practice, if it really works like I imagine it.As for Google maps, here I think it is rather a confort improvement than a new invention. Arm with the cane is always usable just from small part for things other than manipulating with the cane, what is quite a deal when you consider that it's normally your preferred hand, which performs those operations. Thus giving another functionality under it can make the whole system more efficient and confortable, again in theory.Or in short, I am always more likely to use something I already hold in my hand rather than messing with whole other device.Sighted people don't need anything to walk, blind people need at least the white cane and mobile phone eventually, if they don't know the surface. If the white cane and mobile phone can be joined into one thing, we will need to care about just one thing, which is already in use, instead of two, where the secondone is grabbed just from time to time. Of course only if it works like it's described.That's at least my personal opinion, I would definitely like to see it in action though. The price even high is not important for me, if the device really helps at least bit.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463641/#p463641 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? Meh. I don't really think I'd ever need one, and it just seems like a reinvention of the wheel especially because it contains google maps (I think?) which I can get on my phone for free. As far as avoiding tree limbs and other things in my path at head level, it's as simple as wearing a baseball cap so the bill hits them first instead of my face. Maybe I'm wrong, but there really doesn't seem to be much use for this product, what with nearby explorer being free now and the TARC app being accessible enough for me to catch a bus with. Am I missing something here? What would justify a 500 dollar price point when apps I download are free? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463550/#p463550 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? All I can say is that it is much much expensive than the smart cane of assistech.I told my big sister about ths cane where it can detect obstacles through vibration even obstacles leveled to your head like branches of a tree for example and ask her to buy me one.He saw this products of we walk but I told her the product of assistech is much much less expensive but since the day she place her order online using her credit card, the smart cane that she order haven't been arrive yet and that was 4 weeks ago I think? when she order one for me?\Of course, we keep on follow upping it but still, until now, we haven't receive the smart cane yet heh. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/46/#p46 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? All I can say is that it is much much expensive than the smart cane of assistech. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/46/#p46 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? Hi there,May be my memory is kidding me, but I remember when I watched this about a year ago, I considered the price of 200 dollars quite overrated.Now when I see the current price of 500 dollars... hmm... wtf?Yeah, it's great that I don't need to wear my smartphone, so it can be prevented from being stolen, but currently WeWalk seems to be actually more expensive than my Nexus 5 in its best days.I would also be interested if the device is waterproof, what happens, when I go to toilet and use it with wet hands after washing?Beside of these questions, the concept seems very interesting. I have been thinking about an ideal solution for my head protection, as the only way i am able to detect head-level obstacles now is using my really poor echolocation, which is far better in missing obstacles than in detecting them. Having a sonar on a white cane sounds quite interesting and more elegant than wearing sonar glasses, but if it will work in practice, I have no idea.What I would definitely make use of is the compass built in the cane, to help in passing crossings. I have tried this already on my mobile phone and it worked quite well. Having it in a white cane could definitely answer on which side of the way have I landed, or better said completely prevent walking out of the crossing.So, in conclusion, this idea seems very interesting and promising in making walks more confortable for us.However until either I have an opportunity to try it myself or I get a pack of money to spend on anything, i will be hardly in a position to get one.I hope our blind organizations will soon get it and show in workshops. If it's worth it, it is the best way for authors to get attention from our community, because at least in Slovakia and Czech people are definitely not willing to pay that price for something they have never seen or never heard of anyone using it.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463331/#p463331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: WeWalk?
Re: WeWalk? I like the sound of it, and I'm considering getting one. I'd have to hear a few more demos of it though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463287/#p463287 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
WeWalk?
WeWalk? Hello guys!What do you think about weWalk? For those who don't know this is a smart cane with vibration obstacle detection and smartphone integration URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463272/#p463272 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
