Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[tom claffey]

Hi Garry,
Top comp pilots are focused on finding lift and want no distractions.
It is all about finding and using energy in the sky.
As Bruce said, you can actually hear the core of a thermal if you try hard 
enough! 
I enjoy gliding too much to waste energy on music, I leave that to car driving 
which I enjoy less than gliding and am not trying to be competitive with.
Then again I am not really into music much.
Tom

--- On Fri, 15/4/11, gstev...@bigpond.com gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:

From: gstev...@bigpond.com gstev...@bigpond.com
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
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Received: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 12:07 AM

Hi Patch  All,
I am with you bro!

But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as a 
sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets of 
flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of interest, 
try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent attempt to address 
the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated goals of the award 
are about).

To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name would 
you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you take a 
launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position where you 
can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one. As such, the 
canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.

Think about it!

 Especially if you have not been there!

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the 
above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the 
environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is relevant 
- Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post, for the 
uninformed?}

Regards,
Gary




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 Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it.
 Patch
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 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for 
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to 
 music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?
 
 Cheers, Ben
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Peter Stephenson]

  
  
I am dead set against anyone listening to music while flying. I
have heard a power plane approaching that I could not see. I use my
hearing to fly at slow speeds in a thermal so I can keep a good
look-out.
We need all our senses to fly safely.
PeterS

On 15/04/2011 10:01 AM, Grant Davies wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Im with you Al,

At our club our flying is generally local and we
are not full on comp orientated.

I fly for the enjoyment of it and I like music so
I find flying with music a heightened experience.

I cant think of anything better than bobbing
around the clouds listening to Jeff Buckley crooning in the
background.

I also see the point that some serious pilots may
see music as a distraction and understand their comments in
relation to its appropriateness.

Horses for courses.

Kindest Regards

Grant Davies
m. 0419 818 315
f. 07 41 54 14 36
e. gr...@davies.id.au


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Behalf Of Al Borowski
  Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:26 PM
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
  Australia.
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?



  I always thought that the whole point of
gliding was to have fun - and if playing music increases
your enjoyment, and doesn't compromise safety, then why not?


  


  Cheers,


  


  Al


  On 14 April 2011 23:07, gstev...@bigpond.com
wrote:
  Hi Patch
 All,
I am with you bro!

But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch.
Glider pilots, as a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould.
The question "Where are the poets of flight?" has been
discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of
interest, try Goggling "Joseph C Lincoln Award" to see one
excellent attempt to address the balance (although that is
not exactly what the stated goals of the award are about).

To get to the point, I pose the following question " Why in
God's name would you carry, and listen to, canned music
whilst gliding?" Each time you take a launch, you are
potentially putting yourself in a special position where you
can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as
one. As such, the canned music is, at best, just
distracting noise.

Think about it!

 Especially if you have not been there!

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking
about.!

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does
not exclude the above principle- quite the reverse in fact -
if you are not at one with the environment - you will not
win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is relevant - Tom
gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your
post, for the uninformed?}

Regards,
Gary



  
  

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[Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[gstevo10]

Well there it is sports fans! 
Tom/Bruce, I totally agree with your comment on hearing, and how important 
making use of this sense is if you want to make the best of any flight: Part of 
the Body , in the trilogy I earlier mentioned.
Unfortunately for me, hearing deterioration due to age  (and earlier listening 
to rock music at the threshold of pain - but not in a glider!), has put me at a 
disadvantage here.
Mind you Modern Jazz music is more to my taste these days.  However I do not 
have any argument with TN on his more classical choices. All listening done 
going to, and leaving the airfield only, of course!
Simon and JR, I just loved your contributions to the discussion! Akai's and 
guitars in the cockpit indeed!!! What a boggle! 
Three part harmony in a Schweizer is something to think about, but what about 
doing it for real closer to home in Beaufort's Zephyrus? Special effects, 
obviously -but I leave that to the many pundits the gliding movement  has in 
the advertising game. Might even get it onto SBS or the ABC, as a minimal cost 
promotional effort for gliding?? Thinking outside the square and all that??!! 
God knows, we sure need it! As I have recently said in another post, everything 
already tried to date, has proved to be a dismal failure. 
Regards,
Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: tom claffey 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?


Hi Garry,
Top comp pilots are focused on finding lift and want no distractions.
It is all about finding and using energy in the sky.
As Bruce said, you can actually hear the core of a thermal if you try 
hard enough! 
I enjoy gliding too much to waste energy on music, I leave that to car 
driving which I enjoy less than gliding and am not trying to be competitive 
with.
Then again I am not really into music much.
Tom

--- On Fri, 15/4/11, gstev...@bigpond.com gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:


  From: gstev...@bigpond.com gstev...@bigpond.com
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
  Received: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 12:07 AM


  Hi Patch  All,
  I am with you bro!

  But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

  Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider 
pilots, as a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are 
the poets of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter 
of interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent 
attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated 
goals of the award are about).

  To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's 
name would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time 
you take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position 
where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one. As 
such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.

  Think about it!

   Especially if you have not been there!

   But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

  {From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not 
exclude the above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one 
with the environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is 
relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post, 
for the uninformed?}

  Regards,
  Gary




  - Original Message - From: Ruth Patching 
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  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?


   Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it.
   Patch
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   From: bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au
   To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
   Sent: Thursday, 14 April, 2011 12:52:02 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / 
Melbourne / Sydney
   Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
   
   Hi all,
   
   I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio 
input for your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you 
listen to music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you 
did?
   
   Cheers, Ben
   
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Ruth Patching]

Amen to that!! 
BTW is your comment doing it for real really doing it for real! Sly dog. 
I've a couple of stories on that subject. It doesn't need special effects to 
achieve, just a little effort and a much younger body. Alas for me, past times, 
but happy memories. 
Pastor Patch 
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? 


Well there it is sports fans! 
Tom/Bruce, I totally agree with your comment on hearing, and how important 
making use of this sense is if you want to make the best of any flight: Part of 
the Body , in the trilogy I earlier mentioned. 
Unfortunately for me, hearing deterioration due to age (and earlier listening 
to rock music at the threshold of pain - but not in a glider!), has put me at a 
disadvantage here. 
Mind you Modern Jazz music is more to my taste these days. However I do not 
have any argument with TN on his more classical choices. All listening done 
going to, and leaving the airfield only, of course! 
Simon and JR, I just loved your contributions to the discussion! Akai's and 
guitars in the cockpit indeed!!! What a boggle! 
Three part harmony in a Schweizer is something to think about, but what about 
doing it for real closer to home in Beaufort's Zephyrus? Special effects, 
obviously -but I leave that to the many pundits the gliding movement has in the 
advertising game. Might even get it onto SBS or the ABC, as a minimal cost 
promotional effort for gliding?? Thinking outside the square and all that??!! 
God knows, we sure need it! As I have recently said in another post, everything 
already tried to date, has proved to be a dismal failure. 
Regards, 
Gary 


- Original Message - 
From: tom claffey 
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? 


Hi Garry, 
Top comp pilots are focused on finding lift and want no distractions. 
It is all about finding and using energy in the sky. 
As Bruce said, you can actually hear the core of a thermal if you try hard 
enough! 
I enjoy gliding too much to waste energy on music, I leave that to car driving 
which I enjoy less than gliding and am not trying to be competitive with. 
Then again I am not really into music much. 
Tom 

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From: gstev...@bigpond.com gstev...@bigpond.com 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? 
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net 
Received: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 12:07 AM 


Hi Patch  All, 
I am with you bro! 

But, perhaps for totally different reasons??? 

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as a 
sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets of 
flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of interest, 
try Goggling Joseph C Lincoln Award to see one excellent attempt to address 
the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated goals of the award 
are about). 

To get to the point, I pose the following question  Why in God's name would 
you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you take a 
launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position where you 
can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one. As such, the 
canned music is, at best, just distracting noise. 

Think about it! 

 Especially if you have not been there! 

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.! 

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the 
above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the 
environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is relevant 
- Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post, for the 
uninformed?} 

Regards, 
Gary 




- Original Message - From: Ruth Patching  patch...@westnet.com.au  
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.  
aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net  
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? 


 Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it. 
 Patch 
 - Original Message - 
 From: bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au 
 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net 
 Sent: Thursday, 14 April, 2011 12:52:02 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne / 
 Sydney 
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? 
 
 Hi all, 
 
 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for 
 your CD player, ipod etc. Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to 
 music while soaring? What music is it, or what would it be if you did? 
 
 Cheers, Ben

Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[John Parncutt]

For those thinking of hooking up their ipods etc to the cd input on the radio 
bear in mind that will increase the current drawn by the radio and reduce the 
charge available from the battery. Whenever i have used music on a long flight 
i prefer to use an ipod with the rarbuds at low level so i can still hear whats 
going on around me.

Cheers 


John

Sent from my iPad

On 14/04/2011, at 3:37 PM, Raj rbhola...@adelaide.on.net wrote:

 “What's your aircraft Rego??  I'll keep an eye out for it.”
 
  
 
 Should you be keeping an eye out for ALL aircrafts regardless of rego?
 
 :-P
 
  
 
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[Aus-soaring] Music while flying

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[anthony . smith]

  
 
If I had music playing I would lose the functionality of my audio 
altimeter.  
 
(Justine is quite talkative at altitude - particularly at 10,000 ft. 
The conversation diminishes with decreasing altitude till she is 
absolutely silent whislt I grovel away looking for a save. I don't 
need to look at the altimeter anymore.)  
 
 On Thu 14/04/11 3:56 PM , John Parncutt jparn...@bigpond.net.au sent: 
   For those thinking of hooking up their ipods etc to the cd input on 
the radio bear in mind that will increase the current drawn by the 
radio and reduce the charge available from the battery. Whenever i 
have used music on a long flight i prefer to use an ipod with the 
rarbuds at low level so i can still hear whats going on around me.  
  Cheers   
 
  John  
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“What's your aircraft Rego?? I'll keep an eye out for it.”  
 
Should you be keeping an eye out for ALL aircrafts regardless of 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[DMcD]

 If I had music playing I would lose the functionality of my audio altimeter.

Worse, I have a vario tone for my phone's ring tone which is also on
my iPod. Imagine not knowing if it was your phone, vario or iPod going
off!

Also, if your vario and flarm have the voice module and talk to you,
it could get downright confusing. And if you have an SLG, the
noisometer would give many false readings.

No music for me, I'd rather listen to my own thoughts and the music of
the glider… in spite of the fact that it has been proven through
research that listening to familiar music (mainly rock) can actually
sharpen your concentration when doing things like homework. We don't
stop workers listening to music when doing things like programming.

I have enough problems with the battery drain from my 12 volt espresso
machine without connecting up any more in-flight electrical gadgets
and a stiff short black keeps one awake more than music.

D

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Andrew Rigby]

Singing in the cockpit...
I've heard of a pilot, flying a glider with a sustainer, having to explain
the blip on the engine noise recorder during final glide on a badge claim
for diamond goal.
As it was explained - the noise came from a stirring rendition of Diamonds
are a girl's best friend, performed in celebration of achieving final glide
(and final diamond)   :)

Andrew.


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Scott Penrose]

On 14/04/2011, at 5:53 PM, DMcD wrote:

 
 I have enough problems with the battery drain from my 12 volt espresso
 machine without connecting up any more in-flight electrical gadgets

Oh, now that is the best suggestion I have seen for getting a bigger battery. I 
can see it now, out landed, pull out the dark chocolate, get the coffee on, and 
damn those guys are already here with my trailer.




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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[bjones]

And don’t also forget most radio’s with a audio input require you to be 
wearing a HEADSET for the system to work, not a speaker



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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John 
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Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 2:26 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?



For those thinking of hooking up their ipods etc to the cd input on the 
radio bear in mind that will increase the current drawn by the radio and 
reduce the charge available from the battery. Whenever i have used music on 
a long flight i prefer to use an ipod with the rarbuds at low level so i can 
still hear whats going on around me.



Cheers





John


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“What's your aircraft Rego??  I'll keep an eye out for it.”



Should you be keeping an eye out for ALL aircrafts regardless of rego?

:-P



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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[ian mcphee]

Years ago Brett Iggulden used to always listen to Jazz music (prob Red Onions) 
while flying his LS4 to stop getting air sick. He had a touch mid air touch in 
a Benalla nationals and kept flying task. He got into real trouble when he 
landed after finishing the task which caused a nationals rule change to land 
after mid air!
Ian Mcphee
0428847642

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From: Adam Woolley aussiejuniort...@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 2:39
To: gr...@davies.id.au; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

I thought this one would have the fun police out pretty quickly!  You can wire 
these things up to cut out the music when a radio call comes through.  I’m 
thinking, if there’s a way for the radio, then there’d be a solution to having 
it cut out also for the FLARM also.
 
For me, I don’t listen to music while soaring.  Why?  Not because it’s unsafe, 
but because it detracts from my speed points.
 
WPP
 
From: Mark Fisher
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:15 PM
To: gr...@davies.id.au ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone 
coming the other way ?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[ian mcphee]

-Original Message-
From: Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au
Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 1:45
To: gr...@davies.id.au; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone coming 
the other way ?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote:
I do sometimes if I get a good run.

 Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental
 tunes that I thought might be good.

 Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.

 Kindest Regards

 Grant Davies
 m. 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au

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 Hi all,

 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to
 music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Christopher Mc Donnell]

Well howdy and yeehaa JR.
I hope you take your'n spurs off in the sailplane.

Here are the lyrics for some soaring songs to sing in the lng 
final glide in sumpin like an ASH 69

http://www.edkilbourne.com/cloudsongs.html

Chris


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I usually take the guitar with me, just for those long final glides...
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[DMcD]

Oh, now that is the best suggestion I have seen for getting a bigger battery. 
I can see it now, out landed, pull out the dark chocolate, get the coffee on, 
and damn those guys are already here with my trailer.

I think the idea is to do it in-flight not post flight!

The jolt of a cup from one of these machines will keep  you awake for
hours… either that or the adrenaline from tamping down the coffee when
you're flying.

This is what the blurb says.

Brew gourmet coffee on your boat, in your car, or even on an aircraft
in flight! All you need is access to a 12 volt (cigarette lighter
plugin) and you are ready to brew. This quality brewer is made in
Italy and you will be shocked at how great the coffee or espresso
tastes.

Actually the coffee is thick and dark like soup. The real problem is
the steam which can fog up your canopy and the spray of coffee coming
out of the spout. I don't bother with the milk because it gets a
little hot before take off.

Anyway, they're made by Velox in Italy. Mine was made in the '60s but
they're still made now.

D

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[JR]

Sorry I meant maraca's
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Scott Penrose]

On 14/04/2011, at 6:58 PM, DMcD wrote:

 The real problem is
 the steam which can fog up your canopy

Yeah and we need to plug in a fridge too, for the nice full cream milk.

At least the sugar should not be a problem, for those that take sugar.

Scooter

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[tom claffey]

I highly doubt if any of the top 50% or so of comp pilots would be on music, 
some don't even like radio. [Ingo dosen't even like audio vario!!]
Tom

--- On Thu, 14/4/11, Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au wrote:

From: Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
To: tom.wilk...@internode.on.net, Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in 
Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Received: Thursday, 14 April, 2011, 3:41 PM

Not a problem when you are 30 years of age Tom.  Get an old set of ears and 
see how you go.For me, I'd like to think pilots are flying their gliders with 
all their OWN instruments focused on the job, especially when they 
are anywhere near me.

If it truly enhanced flying ability every comp pilot in the world would be 
'plugged in'. Somehow I don't think you'll find too many admit to doing this.
How would you feel about your instructor plugging his Ipod into his head while 
training because it  increased his focus ?

If you were working for me, your IPOD would be elsewhere. 
..Just a grumpy old man talking I 
suspect.
What's your aircraft Rego??  I'll keep an eye out for it.

CheersMark


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:05 PM,  tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote:

I also listen to a bit of music during cross country flights  It seems to make 
me more focused for whatever reason (I also listen to an iPod at work where it 
has the same effect).

I listen to a pretty wide range, though nothing too pumping.  Should also 
mention that it is never even close to being loud enough to block out any 
outside noise.  I can still hear vario (which I like very quiet) and flarm with 
ease.

Tom 


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Cc:
Sent:Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:45:57 +1000
Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?




And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone coming 
the other way ?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote:

I do sometimes if I get a good run.



Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental

tunes that I thought might be good.


Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.


Kindest Regards


Grant Davies

m 0419 818 315

f. 07 41 54 14 36

e. gr...@davies.id.au


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Hi all,


I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for

your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to

music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?


Cheers, Ben


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Bruce Campbell]

I agree with Tom. Don't you guys listen for the thermals? I do. Gusts are
very subtle but can be heard - better than feel in a full Discus.

John Butler Trio before a comp takeoff works a treat though - pack the iPod
in case of outlanding  boredom, and for mindset pre takeoff.

Sounds like a power plane function. Just because your radio can do it
doesn't make it a good idea.

Cheers

Bruce

On 14 April 2011 20:09, tom claffey to...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I highly doubt if any of the top 50% or so of comp pilots would be on
 music, some don't even like radio. [Ingo dosen't even like audio vario!!]
 Tom


 --- On *Thu, 14/4/11, Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au* wrote:


 From: Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 To: tom.wilk...@internode.on.net, Discussion of issues relating to
 Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Received: Thursday, 14 April, 2011, 3:41 PM


 Not a problem when you are 30 years of age Tom.  Get an old set of ears
 and see how you go.
 For me, I'd like to think pilots are flying their gliders with all their
 OWN instruments focused on the job, especially when they are anywhere near
 me.

 If it truly enhanced flying ability every comp pilot in the world would be
 'plugged in'. Somehow I don't think you'll find too many admit to doing
 this.

 How would you feel about your instructor plugging his Ipod into his head
 while training because it  increased his focus ?

 If you were working for me, your IPOD would be elsewhere.
 ..Just a grumpy old man talking I
 suspect.

 What's your aircraft Rego??  I'll keep an eye out for it.

 Cheers
 Mark



 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:05 PM, 
 tom.wilk...@internode.on.nethttp://mc/compose?to=tom.wilk...@internode.on.net
  wrote:

 I also listen to a bit of music during cross country flights  It seems to
 make me more focused for whatever reason (I also listen to an iPod at work
 where it has the same effect).

 I listen to a pretty wide range, though nothing too pumping.  Should also
 mention that it is never even close to being loud enough to block out any
 outside noise.  I can still hear vario (which I like very quiet) and flarm
 with ease.

 Tom


 - Original Message -
 From:
 Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
 aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.nethttp://mc/compose?to=aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 

 To:
 gr...@davies.id.au http://mc/compose?to=gr...@davies.id.au,
 Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
 aus-soaring@lists.internode.onnet
 Cc:

 Sent:
 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:45:57 +1000
 Subject:
 Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?


 And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone
 coming the other way ?

 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies 
 gr...@davies.id.auhttp://mc/compose?to=gr...@davies.id.au
  wrote:

 I do sometimes if I get a good run.

 Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental
 tunes that I thought might be good.

 Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.

 Kindest Regards

 Grant Davies
 m 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au http://mc/compose?to=gr...@davies.id.au

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.nethttp://mc/compose?to=aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.nethttp://mc/compose?to=aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net]
 On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:52 PM
 To: 
 aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.nethttp://mc/compose?to=aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 Hi all,

 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen
 to
 music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

 Cheers, Ben

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Stuart Kerri FERGUSON]

Who needs an iPod

We have an instructor in our club who sings to his students;

When getting low he sings several verses of find me a thermal

When in the cruse - Climb every thermal

Fortunately he has a day job too.

Personally I'm with Bruce and Tom, I like to focus on flying when i am flying 
and
only use my iPod when I am flying Quaintarse.

Stuart FERGUSON 
Phone - 0419 797508
Sent from iPad

On 14/04/2011, at 20:58, Bruce Campbell discusdri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with Tom. Don't you guys listen for the thermals? I do. Gusts are 
 very subtle but can be heard - better than feel in a full Discus. 
 
 John Butler Trio before a comp takeoff works a treat though - pack the iPod 
 in case of outlanding  boredom, and for mindset pre takeoff.  
 
 Sounds like a power plane function. Just because your radio can do it doesn't 
 make it a good idea.
 
 Cheers
 
 Bruce
 
 On 14 April 2011 20:09, tom claffey to...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I highly doubt if any of the top 50% or so of comp pilots would be on music, 
 some don't even like radio. [Ingo dosen't even like audio vario!!]
 Tom
 
 
 --- On Thu, 14/4/11, Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au wrote:
 
 From: Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 To: tom.wilk...@internode.on.net, Discussion of issues relating to Soaring 
 in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Received: Thursday, 14 April, 2011, 3:41 PM
 
 
 Not a problem when you are 30 years of age Tom.  Get an old set of ears and 
 see how you go.
 For me, I'd like to think pilots are flying their gliders with all their OWN 
 instruments focused on the job, especially when they are anywhere near me.
 
 If it truly enhanced flying ability every comp pilot in the world would be 
 'plugged in'. Somehow I don't think you'll find too many admit to doing this.
 
 How would you feel about your instructor plugging his Ipod into his head 
 while training because it  increased his focus ?
 
 If you were working for me, your IPOD would be elsewhere. 
 ..Just a grumpy old man talking I 
 suspect.
 
 What's your aircraft Rego??  I'll keep an eye out for it.
 
 Cheers
 Mark
 
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:05 PM, tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote:
 I also listen to a bit of music during cross country flights  It seems to 
 make me more focused for whatever reason (I also listen to an iPod at work 
 where it has the same effect).
 
 I listen to a pretty wide range, though nothing too pumping.  Should also 
 mention that it is never even close to being loud enough to block out any 
 outside noise.  I can still hear vario (which I like very quiet) and flarm 
 with ease.
 
 Tom 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
 aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 
 To:
 gr...@davies.id.au, Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in 
 Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.onnet
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:45:57 +1000
 Subject:
 Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 
 
 And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone 
 coming the other way ?
 
 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote:
 I do sometimes if I get a good run.
 
 Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental
 tunes that I thought might be good.
 
 Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.
 
 Kindest Regards
 
 Grant Davies
 m 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au
 
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 From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of
 bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au
 Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:52 PM
 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to
 music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?
 
 Cheers, Ben
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[gstevo10]

Hi Patch  All,
I am with you bro!

But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as 
a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets 
of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of 
interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent 
attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated 
goals of the award are about).


To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name 
would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you 
take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position 
where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one. 
As such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.


Think about it!

 Especially if you have not been there!

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the 
above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the 
environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is 
relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post, 
for the uninformed?}


Regards,
Gary




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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:16 PM
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Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it.
Patch
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To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday, 14 April, 2011 12:52:02 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne 
/ Sydney

Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

Hi all,

I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for 
your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen 
to music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?


Cheers, Ben

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Al Borowski]

I always thought that the whole point of gliding was to have fun - and if
playing music increases your enjoyment, and doesn't compromise safety, then
why not?

Cheers,

Al

On 14 April 2011 23:07, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hi Patch  All,
 I am with you bro!

 But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

 Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as
 a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets
 of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of
 interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent
 attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated
 goals of the award are about).

 To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name
 would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you
 take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position
 where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one.
 As such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.

 Think about it!

  Especially if you have not been there!

  But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

 {From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the
 above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the
 environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is
 relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post,
 for the uninformed?}

 Regards,
 Gary



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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[John Parncutt]

I think it really depends on how much you enjoy music, for instance I have a
passion for both gliding and photography and find the two go together rather
nicely.
If you are totally focussed on competitive flying only then I would imagine
anything else would be a distraction. The great thing about our sport is it
attracts many types of people from all walks of life, many with other
interests and skills which they bring with them, maintenance, management,
teaching for instance.  

My two bobs worth


John Parncutt
 


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Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:08 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

Hi Patch  All,
I am with you bro!

But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as 
a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets 
of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of 
interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent 
attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated

goals of the award are about).

To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name 
would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you 
take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position 
where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one. 
As such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.

Think about it!

  Especially if you have not been there!

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the 
above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the 
environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is 
relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post,

for the uninformed?}

Regards,
Gary




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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?


 Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it.
 Patch
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 Sent: Thursday, 14 April, 2011 12:52:02 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne

 / Sydney
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 Hi all,

 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for 
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen 
 to music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

 Cheers, Ben

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[John Parncutt]

Absolutely well said Al !

 

 

John Parncutt

 

 

   

 

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Al Borowski
Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:26 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 

I always thought that the whole point of gliding was to have fun - and if
playing music increases your enjoyment, and doesn't compromise safety, then
why not?

 

Cheers,

 

Al

On 14 April 2011 23:07, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:

Hi Patch  All,
I am with you bro!

But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as
a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets
of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of
interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent
attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated
goals of the award are about).

To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name
would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you
take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position
where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one.
As such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.

Think about it!

 Especially if you have not been there!

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the
above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the
environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is
relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post,
for the uninformed?}

Regards,
Gary



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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Jim Staniforth]

Excellent!
The Perlan prototype  (modified DG500M) may have carried enough batteries to 
power a fridge, coffee roaster, grinder and Cappuccino machine.
Jim





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On 14/04/2011, at 5:53 PM, DMcD wrote:


I have enough problems with the battery drain from my 12 volt espresso
machine without connecting up any more in-flight electrical gadgets


Oh, now that is the best suggestion I have seen for getting a bigger battery. I 
can see it now, out landed, pull out the dark chocolate, get the coffee on, and 
damn those guys are already here with my trailer.

:-)

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Frank]

Highway to the danger zone does it for me on my Ipod touch, my  7ah battery 
last about  87.12 minutes  full volume and subwoofer connected.


Vario turned off that is.

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To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?


Hi Patch  All,
I am with you bro!

But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, 
as a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the 
poets of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a 
matter of interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one 
excellent attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly 
what the stated goals of the award are about).


To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name 
would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time 
you take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special 
position where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, 
Soul, as one. As such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting 
noise.


Think about it!

 Especially if you have not been there!

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the 
above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with 
the environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is 
relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your 
post, for the uninformed?}


Regards,
Gary




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Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it.
Patch
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Melbourne / Sydney

Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

Hi all,

I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for 
your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen 
to music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you 
did?


Cheers, Ben

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[John Parncutt]

I prefer Pink Floyds learning to fly :-)


Sent from my iPad

On 15/04/2011, at 7:40 AM, Frank dg...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Highway to the danger zone does it for me on my Ipod touch, my  7ah battery 
 last about  87.12 minutes  full volume and subwoofer connected.
 
 Vario turned off that is.
 
 --
 From: gstev...@bigpond.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:07 PM
 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
 aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 
 Hi Patch  All,
 I am with you bro!
 
 But, perhaps for totally different reasons???
 
 Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as 
 a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets 
 of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of 
 interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent 
 attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated 
 goals of the award are about).
 
 To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name 
 would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you 
 take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position 
 where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one. 
 As such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.
 
 Think about it!
 
  Especially if you have not been there!
 
  But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!
 
 {From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the 
 above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the 
 environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is 
 relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post, 
 for the uninformed?}
 
 Regards,
 Gary
 
 
 
 
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 aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 
 
 Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it.
 Patch
 - Original Message -
 From: bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au
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 Sent: Thursday, 14 April, 2011 12:52:02 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne 
 / Sydney
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for 
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen 
 to music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?
 
 Cheers, Ben
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[JR]

Nice choice John,  one of these days is nice to fly aerobatics to.
regards
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Simon Holding]

We have an Akai 12' reel to reel tape player fitted in our Blanik, which I 
enjoy listenting to while aerobatting. It must be helping, because other people 
have commented that my inverted recovery from a tailslide is becoming more 
consistent. I like to listen to Brahm's lullaby when in a gaggle. I've been 
experimenting with closing my eyes, and trying to feel the pressure wave of the 
other aircraft. Other pilots have said that it seems to work based on the 
number of near misses that we have. My thoughts are that this technique is 
certainly working, 'coz so far I haven't actually sensed anything. Is this 
proof that as pilots we are able to tap into a sense that we don't normally use?
 
 From: jma99...@bigpond.net.au
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 Nice choice John,  one of these days is nice to fly aerobatics to.
 regards
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[DMcD]

We have an Akai 12' reel to reel tape player fitted in our Blanik

Hmmm. I doubt an old Akai reel to reel could cope well with
aerobatics. The existing wow and flutter of the tape deck would be
augmented to such an extent that Brahms would sound like Liszt.

Add to that the rattle and hum of the Blanik…

You need something German like a Revox for aerobatics. Or a Studer.
Now that was a gliding recorder.

D

On 15/04/2011, Simon Holding shold...@hotmail.com wrote:

 We have an Akai 12' reel to reel tape player fitted in our Blanik, which I
 enjoy listenting to while aerobatting. It must be helping, because other
 people have commented that my inverted recovery from a tailslide is becoming
 more consistent. I like to listen to Brahm's lullaby when in a gaggle. I've
 been experimenting with closing my eyes, and trying to feel the pressure
 wave of the other aircraft. Other pilots have said that it seems to work
 based on the number of near misses that we have. My thoughts are that this
 technique is certainly working, 'coz so far I haven't actually sensed
 anything. Is this proof that as pilots we are able to tap into a sense that
 we don't normally use?

 From: jma99...@bigpond.net.au
 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:44:01 +0930
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 Nice choice John,  one of these days is nice to fly aerobatics to.
 regards
 JR
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[Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Nelson Handcock]

Highway to the danger zone should be banned from the galaxy for ever.
I hope I never see another gliding youtube clip with this in the background
- it's bloody awful!

The other Learning to Fly by Tom Petty is just as good as Pink Floyds
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Grant Davies]

I'm with you Al,
 
At our club our flying is generally local and we are not full on comp
orientated.
 
I fly for the enjoyment of it and I like music so I find flying with music a
heightened experience.
 
I can't think of anything better than bobbing around the clouds listening to
Jeff Buckley crooning in the background.
 
I also see the point that some serious pilots may see music as a distraction
and understand their comments in relation to its appropriateness.
 
Horses for courses.
 
Kindest Regards
 
Grant Davies
m. 0419 818 315
f. 07 41 54 14 36
e. gr...@davies.id.au
 
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Al Borowski
Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:26 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
 
I always thought that the whole point of gliding was to have fun - and if
playing music increases your enjoyment, and doesn't compromise safety, then
why not?
 
Cheers,
 
Al
On 14 April 2011 23:07, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:
Hi Patch  All,
I am with you bro!

But, perhaps for totally different reasons???

Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as
a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets
of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of
interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent
attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated
goals of the award are about).

To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name
would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you
take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position
where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one.
As such, the canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.

Think about it!

 Especially if you have not been there!

 But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!

{From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the
above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the
environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is
relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post,
for the uninformed?}

Regards,
Gary


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Catherine Conway]

We used to listen to Sony Walkman's while beating up the Lochiel ridge in the 
80's to early 90's.  Top Gun themes and various classics where the choice (Ride 
of the Valkyries, 1812, Thus Spake Zarathustra etc)

No need to hear thermal gusts  - just slalom amongst the hang gliders and avoid 
the eagles while dogfighting with other gliders in your mighty Bergfalke, Arrow 
or Boomerang ;).

-Cath

On 15/04/2011, at 7:10 AM, Frank wrote:

 Highway to the danger zone does it for me on my Ipod touch, my  7ah battery 
 last about  87.12 minutes  full volume and subwoofer connected.
 
 Vario turned off that is.
 


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Matthew Gage]

Fully agree flying has to be fun, and different people enjoy different things. 
Personally, I don't enjoy aerobatics at all, and any instructor who insists on 
doing them with me on a check flight is going to get an ear full, along with 
the CFI ! I don't particularly enjoy aimless wandering about near the airfield 
either.

I find any man or machine made noise a distraction, so no music, the radio gets 
tuned to OFF if it gets busy and the vario volume is as low as I can set it and 
still hear something, with all down tones disabled, and up signalled in cruise 
only if the netto is greater than the current McCready setting.

Providing it doesn't distract from the fundamentals of safe flight, then do 
what you want - including listening to music.

Fly safe and have fun.

Matt


On 15/04/2011, at 10:01 , Grant Davies wrote:

 I’m with you Al,
  
 At our club our flying is generally local and we are not full on comp 
 orientated.
  
 I fly for the enjoyment of it and I like music so I find flying with music a 
 heightened experience.
  
 I can’t think of anything better than bobbing around the clouds listening to 
 Jeff Buckley crooning in the background.
  
 I also see the point that some serious pilots may see music as a distraction 
 and understand their comments in relation to its appropriateness.
  
 Horses for courses.
  
 Kindest Regards
  
 Grant Davies
 m. 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au
  
 From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net 
 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Al Borowski
 Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:26 PM
 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
  
 I always thought that the whole point of gliding was to have fun - and if 
 playing music increases your enjoyment, and doesn't compromise safety, then 
 why not?
  
 Cheers,
  
 Al
 
 On 14 April 2011 23:07, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Hi Patch  All,
 I am with you bro!
 
 But, perhaps for totally different reasons???
 
 Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider pilots, as a 
 sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where are the poets of 
 flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. As a matter of 
 interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see one excellent 
 attempt to address the balance (although that is not exactly what the stated 
 goals of the award are about).
 
 To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's name would 
 you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each time you take a 
 launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a special position where you 
 can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, Body, Soul, as one. As such, the 
 canned music is, at best,  just distracting noise.
 
 Think about it!
 
  Especially if you have not been there!
 
  But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!
 
 {From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude the 
 above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one with the 
 environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the subject is 
 relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to expound on your post, 
 for the uninformed?}
 
 Regards,
 Gary
 
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Jarek Mosiejewski]

Just out of interest. Are airline pilots allowed listening to music while 
flying?

Jarek 



 Matthew Gage m...@knightschallenge.com wrote:
 
 Fully agree flying has to be fun, and different people enjoy different 
 things. Personally, I don't enjoy aerobatics at all, and any instructor 
 who insists on doing them with me on a check flight is going to get an 
 ear full, along with the CFI ! I don't particularly enjoy aimless 
 wandering about near the airfield either.
 
 I find any man or machine made noise a distraction, so no music, the 
 radio gets tuned to OFF if it gets busy and the vario volume is as low 
 as I can set it and still hear something, with all down tones disabled, 
 and up signalled in cruise only if the netto is greater than the current 
 McCready setting.
 
 Providing it doesn't distract from the fundamentals of safe flight, then 
 do what you want - including listening to music.
 
 Fly safe and have fun.
 
 Matt
 
 
 On 15/04/2011, at 10:01 , Grant Davies wrote:
 
  I’m with you Al,
   
  At our club our flying is generally local and we are not full on comp 
 orientated.
   
  I fly for the enjoyment of it and I like music so I find flying with 
 music a heightened experience.
   
  I can’t think of anything better than bobbing around the clouds 
 listening to Jeff Buckley crooning in the background.
   
  I also see the point that some serious pilots may see music as a 
 distraction and understand their comments in relation to its 
 appropriateness.
   
  Horses for courses.
   
  Kindest Regards
   
  Grant Davies
  m. 0419 818 315
  f. 07 41 54 14 36
  e. gr...@davies.id.au
   
  From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net 
 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Al 
 Borowski
  Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:26 PM
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
   
  I always thought that the whole point of gliding was to have fun - and 
 if playing music increases your enjoyment, and doesn't compromise 
 safety, then why not?
   
  Cheers,
   
  Al
  
  On 14 April 2011 23:07, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote:
  Hi Patch  All,
  I am with you bro!
  
  But, perhaps for totally different reasons???
  
  Aviators seem to be, in the main, a very pragmatic bunch. Glider 
 pilots, as a sub-group, also seem to fit this mould. The question Where 
 are the poets of flight? has been discussed on this forum in the past. 
 As a matter of interest, try Goggling  Joseph C Lincoln Award  to see 
 one excellent attempt to address the balance (although that is not 
 exactly what the stated goals of the award are about).
  
  To get to the point,  I pose the following question  Why in God's 
 name would you carry, and listen to, canned music whilst gliding? Each 
 time you take a launch, you are potentially putting yourself in a 
 special position where you can resonate with the whole universe - Mind, 
 Body, Soul, as one. As such, the canned music is, at best,  just 
 distracting noise.
  
  Think about it!
  
   Especially if you have not been there!
  
   But I suspect, you all know exactly what I am talking about.!
  
  {From a competition pilot's view (a subset group that does not exclude 
 the above principle- quite the reverse in fact - if you are not at one 
 with the environment - you will not win), Tom Claffey's post on the 
 subject is relevant - Tom gives no reasons. Tom would you care to 
 expound on your post, for the uninformed?}
  
  Regards,
  Gary
  
  
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Texler, Michael]

Just out of interest. Are airline pilots allowed listening to music
while flying?

The (FMS) computer says 'no'




But they're still allowed to eat airline food

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Justin Couch]

Jarek Mosiejewski wrote:
 Just out of interest. Are airline pilots allowed listening to music while
 flying?

Have you heard airline music? :)

-- 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Terry]

One of the things which I've always liked about gliding is the peace and 
the relative solitude which it offers.  Muzak whilst gliding has never 
appealed any more than it has in the almost infinite number of other 
activities where it is thrust upon us.So while a while the relative 
quiet of gliding was almost overwhelming.


Audio varios arrived.   Helpful, probably, but I prefer them at a very 
low audio level, and for the most part, they only tell me what I already 
know.


Somewhere in the history of things came radio (possibly even before 
audio varios) which was also helpful.  Intrusive yes, but part of the 
business of aviating, and for the most part appropriate to the 
activity.   Now we are on the CTAF and there is no peace or solitude, 
just the nearly constant broadcasts of every aircraft movement within a 
couple of hundred kilometres.   For mine, it's certainly taken some of 
that which I find attractive out of the sport.  Given that most of the 
times when I check the volume of the radio pre-takeoff, and find it 
turned down to zero, it seems that others might be similarly affected.


Perhaps I need to think about music as an antidote to radioitis.  Bach 
preludes, or the Philip Glass violin concerto are fascinating 
possibilities but Windmills of your mind is an obvious.   If you are 
over 40, you will probably know why (hint - think Steve McQueen).


Terry
(Presently in Canberra - gee the Cu's are nice over here)

(Sigh.)

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[anthony . smith]

 Windmills of your mind was featured in the re-make as well 
 
 On Fri 15/04/11 12:19 PM , Terry tfneum...@internode.on.net sent: 
 
 Windmills of your mind is an obvious. If you are  
 over 40, you will probably know why (hint - think Steve McQueen). 
 
 Terry 
 (Presently in Canberra - gee the Cu's are nice over here) 
 
 (Sigh.) 
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Tim Shirley]

Personally I think something by Led Zeppelin would be more appropriate.  
In my case, at least.


On 15/04/2011 12:49, Terry wrote:
One of the things which I've always liked about gliding is the peace 
and the relative solitude which it offers.  Muzak whilst gliding has 
never appealed any more than it has in the almost infinite number of 
other activities where it is thrust upon us.So while a while the 
relative quiet of gliding was almost overwhelming.


Audio varios arrived.   Helpful, probably, but I prefer them at a very 
low audio level, and for the most part, they only tell me what I 
already know.


Somewhere in the history of things came radio (possibly even before 
audio varios) which was also helpful.  Intrusive yes, but part of the 
business of aviating, and for the most part appropriate to the 
activity.   Now we are on the CTAF and there is no peace or solitude, 
just the nearly constant broadcasts of every aircraft movement within 
a couple of hundred kilometres.   For mine, it's certainly taken some 
of that which I find attractive out of the sport.  Given that most of 
the times when I check the volume of the radio pre-takeoff, and find 
it turned down to zero, it seems that others might be similarly affected.


Perhaps I need to think about music as an antidote to radioitis.  Bach 
preludes, or the Philip Glass violin concerto are fascinating 
possibilities but Windmills of your mind is an obvious.   If you are 
over 40, you will probably know why (hint - think Steve McQueen).


Terry
(Presently in Canberra - gee the Cu's are nice over here)

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Simon Holding]

I know JR is reticent to admit a little known fact, but I understand he has an 
8 track tape player fitted in his Olympia, and has been known, while aloft, to 
play his signed copy of Engelbert Humperdink singing Quando, Quando, Quando
 


From: jma99...@bigpond.net.au
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:20:52 +0930
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?





Geez Simon do you still have that old Akai.
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[Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

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Hi all,

I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for your 
CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to music 
while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Grant Davies]

I do sometimes if I get a good run.

Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental
tunes that I thought might be good. 

Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.

Kindest Regards

Grant Davies
m. 0419 818 315
f. 07 41 54 14 36
e. gr...@davies.id.au

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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

Hi all,

I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to
music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[DMcD]

HA,

Back some time ago, when walkmen first came out in the US, a friend
who could not get hold of one fitted what for the times was a small
ghetto blaster to the A frame of his hang glider. He wore headphones
under his helmet.

You'd see him a few hundred feet over the take-off with his neck going
in and out like a demented turtle and occasionally hear a horrible
goose-like cackling which sounded like Been a long lonely, lonely,
lonely, lonely, lonely time,

Yes, it has.

D

On 14/04/2011, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote:
 I do sometimes if I get a good run.

 Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental
 tunes that I thought might be good.

 Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.

 Kindest Regards

 Grant Davies
 m. 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au

 -Original Message-
 From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
 [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:52 PM
 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 Hi all,

 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to
 music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Mark Fisher]

And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone
coming the other way ?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote:

 I do sometimes if I get a good run.

 Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental
 tunes that I thought might be good.

 Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.

 Kindest Regards

 Grant Davies
 m. 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au

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 From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
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 Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:52 PM
 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 Hi all,

 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
 your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen
 to
 music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[tom . wilksch]

I also listen to a bit of music during cross country flights.  It
seems to make me more focused for whatever reason (I also listen to an
iPod at work where it has the same effect).
I listen to a pretty wide range, though nothing too pumping.  Should
also mention that it is never even close to being loud enough to block
out any outside noise.  I can still hear vario (which I like very
quiet) and flarm with ease.
Tom 

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Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud
streetsomeone coming the other way ?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies  wrote:
I do sometimes if I get a good run.

 Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of
instrumental
 tunes that I thought might be good.

 Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the
radio.

 Kindest Regards

 Grant Davies
 m. 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au [2]

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 Hi all,

 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input
for
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Adam Woolley]

I thought this one would have the fun police out pretty quickly!  You can wire 
these things up to cut out the music when a radio call comes through.  I’m 
thinking, if there’s a way for the radio, then there’d be a solution to having 
it cut out also for the FLARM also.

For me, I don’t listen to music while soaring.  Why?  Not because it’s unsafe, 
but because it detracts from my speed points.

WPP

From: Mark Fisher 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:15 PM
To: gr...@davies.id.au ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone coming 
the other way ?


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote:

  I do sometimes if I get a good run.

  Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental
  tunes that I thought might be good.

  Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.

  Kindest Regards

  Grant Davies
  m. 0419 818 315
  f. 07 41 54 14 36
  e. gr...@davies.id.au

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  To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
  Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

  Hi all,

  I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
  your CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to
  music while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

  Cheers, Ben

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Mark Fisher]

Not a problem when you are 30 years of age Tom.  Get an old set of ears and
see how you go.
For me, I'd like to think pilots are flying their gliders with all their OWN
instruments focused on the job, especially when they are anywhere near me.

If it truly enhanced flying ability every comp pilot in the world would be
'plugged in'. Somehow I don't think you'll find too many admit to doing
this.

How would you feel about your instructor plugging his Ipod into his head
while training because it  increased his focus ?

If you were working for me, your IPOD would be elsewhere.
..Just a grumpy old man talking I
suspect.

What's your aircraft Rego??  I'll keep an eye out for it.

Cheers
Mark



On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:05 PM, tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote:

 I also listen to a bit of music during cross country flights  It seems to
 make me more focused for whatever reason (I also listen to an iPod at work
 where it has the same effect).

 I listen to a pretty wide range, though nothing too pumping.  Should also
 mention that it is never even close to being loud enough to block out any
 outside noise.  I can still hear vario (which I like very quiet) and flarm
 with ease.

 Tom


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 Cc:

 Sent:
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 Subject:
 Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?


 And your Flarm Alarm???  Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone
 coming the other way ?

 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote:

 I do sometimes if I get a good run.

 Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of
 instrumental
 tunes that I thought might be good.

 Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio.

 Kindest Regards

 Grant Davies
 m 0419 818 315
 f. 07 41 54 14 36
 e. gr...@davies.id.au

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:52 PM
 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

 Hi all,

 I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Ruth Patching]

Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it. 
Patch
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Sent: Thursday, 14 April, 2011 12:52:02 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne / 
Sydney
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

Hi all,

I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for your 
CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to music 
while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Colin Collyer]

I tried it on R/C gliders once, don't think it made me fly any better, in fact 
the reverse was true. Same result first few times with a vario, but I've got 
used to that

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Simple answer for me. NO. Never even contemplated it. 
Patch
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Hi all,

I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for your 
CD player, ipod etc.  Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to music 
while soaring?  What music is it, or what would it be if you did?

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?

[Raj]

What's your aircraft Rego??  I'll keep an eye out for it.

 

Should you be keeping an eye out for ALL aircrafts regardless of rego?

:-P

 

{back in my box}

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