[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel (b. 1888)
Celest Your attachement was blank? I am interested in your Pacheco from Lagoa. I have an extensive Lagoa file and cannot match your Joao thanks Maria - Original Message - From: celeste perry To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel (b. 1888) Jesse, I found this Joao Pacheco in my database that is related to my husband's maternal grandmother Maria Paixao da Costa born March 27, 1888 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel. You may be able to connect to this line at some point. The /Diana I noted at the end of the place where an event occurred is Diana Silva who has done extensive research in Lagoa and other villages in Sao Miguel. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 6/30/09, IGGY1110 wrote: From: IGGY1110 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel (b. 1888) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 3:45 PM Hi. I originally made this posting from my other email (pacheco.jess...@gmail.com): Hi group. Of my 8 Portuguese Great-Great grandparents, 7 come from Lagoa. Joao Pacheco is the remaining one and I was wondering if anyone possibly knew this family or had any more information. He was born 9 Mar 1888 to Jose Pacheco and Rosalina Moniz in Nordeste, Sm. He came to America in 1902 and married Maria de Andrade in 1906. They had 8 children. I know this is vague but I have no other way to get information. My grandfather has never had contact with his father's family. If anyone knows how I can find the village possibly that would also help. I just don't know where to start with this branch; I also haven't been able to find any immigration information. Jesse (iggy1...@aol.com) I would like to add some additional information about Joao's children. Maybe someone in the Fall River/New Bedford Area will know them. 1. Mary (1907-1997) married John Leandro, had children Dolores, Edward J, Richard 2. Manuel (1909-) 3. Frank (1910-1974), married Maria de Luz Medeiros, had children Robert & Raymond, married Alice Fereirra, had children Barbara and Pauline 4. Constance (1912-), married a Nardone 5. John (1914-) 6. Georgiana "Gina?" (1917-) married Botelho and/or Medeiros 7. Antone (19178-2008) married Emily Medeiros Soares, had children Deborah, Marjorie, Ronald, Janice This is a piece from his obituary which could help identify him:/ He was Past President of the Diocesan Council of St. Vincent de Paul Society and had received the Top Hat Award. On the local level, he was Secretary/Treasurer of the Our Lady of Health St Vincent de Paul Conference. He was the Recipient of the Marion Medal. At Our Lady of Health Church, he was the first Eucharistic Minister, a Collector and Past President of the Holy Name Society. He was the Past President of the Bishop’s Ball and served on its Committee since the origin. He was the Master of Ceremonies for the past number of years. He was President of the Our Lady of Health Federal Credit Union and a Board of Director. He was also the Past Vice President of the Fall River Electric Light Credit Union. Mr. Pacheco was a member of the the Portuguese War Veterans Club and served as its installing officer. In addition, he was a member of the Fall River War Veterans Council. He was a Chairman of the Building Committee for the Bishop Connolly High School Drive. A member of the IBEW retirees, he also belonged to the Happy Group Seniors and was Treasurer of the Our Lady of the Angels Seniors./ 8. Joseph (1925-)/ / --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Thanks Justin.? I will see if I can find anything in that direction.? They lived near a Portuguese family named Bell also.? I will let you know if I figure anything out. Pat Anselmo Nostrome -Original Message- From: justin.pine To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente Hi Pat, My first reaction to Mary Bell Pine is that maybe Bell is an anglicized/simplified version of Botelho? Mary Botelho Pine? Familysearch.org has a Maria Pine born in 1890 in Ribeira Quente. On Jul 2, 2:12?pm, cnsp...@aol.com wrote: > Justin, Shirley, Cheri, > Antonio Vieira Anselmo was married to Mary Pine in Pleasanton,CA.? This is > her brother Manuels obituary.? I don't know if they were related to any of you.? My grandfather was Antonio's brother.? My cousin Allison Anselmo Chacon doesn't know which which island or village they were from.? I think they were related to the Bells because Mary used Mary Bell Pine sometimes.? > > Manuel Pine died April 1961 > PLEASANTON - S e r v i c e s > for Manuel Pine, 96, who died Satrday > night in a fire that conunied > his home at 267 Kottinger > ave., were held here yesterday. > A native of the Azores Islands, > Mr. Pine had lived in the Pleasnton > area for 76 years. > Only surviving relatives are a > nephew, Juluis Anselmo of San > Lorenzo and several cousins in the > Fremont area. > Pine was a charter member of > he Druid Lodge. > Services were performed under > the direction o! the Druid Lodge > t the Graham and Hitch Mortury > > Thanks, > Pat Anselmo Nostrome > > > > -Original Message- > From: Shirley Allegre > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15 am > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente > > Antonio & Constancia were married on 14 Feb > 1787, Ponta Garca. > > ? > > Cheri am I related to Justin? > > Shirley > > ? > > - Original Message - > > From: > ? Cheri Mello > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:14 > ? PM > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello > ? Pine and Ribeira Quente > > Hi Cousin Justin, > > You'll have to wait to hear from > ? Shirley Allegre as to where the "Pine" came from (Pinheiro comes to mind > but I > ? don't know if that was correct for this particular family).? The de Mello > ? Pines go back to Antonio de Mello and Constancia de Jesus who I think were > ? married in Ponta Garca.? Not all of the children attached "Pine" after > ? the de Mello.? Only some did.? Shirley's line did it and yet mine > ? didn't. > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: > ? Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > ? Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
And also, yes I have thought that perhaps my name is Piné but still that is not a portuguese name... i'm still confused. On Jul 2, 3:48 pm, "Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva" wrote: > I have consulted the Books of Marriages of Ribeira Quente, from 19 May 1833 > to 18 Oct 1900 (555 marriages) and I have found this nicknames as names: > > - Carrossas(wagons), Fonfinha (Fluffy?), Preto (Black), Bonito (Beautiful), > Quieto(Still), Benfeito (well manufactured), Cidade(City), > Rozenina(son/daughter of a woman named Rosa) > > - Mello Mellão (Mello Melon), Mello Piné (?), Mello Pedreiro (Mello > Stonemason), Mello Gafanhoto (Mello Grasshopper). > > Also I have not found any PINHEIRO… > > Eliseu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Eliseu, muito obrigado pela sua ajuda. I know the rozeninas... they are cousins. On Jul 2, 3:48 pm, "Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva" wrote: > I have consulted the Books of Marriages of Ribeira Quente, from 19 May 1833 > to 18 Oct 1900 (555 marriages) and I have found this nicknames as names: > > - Carrossas(wagons), Fonfinha (Fluffy?), Preto (Black), Bonito (Beautiful), > Quieto(Still), Benfeito (well manufactured), Cidade(City), > Rozenina(son/daughter of a woman named Rosa) > > - Mello Mellão (Mello Melon), Mello Piné (?), Mello Pedreiro (Mello > Stonemason), Mello Gafanhoto (Mello Grasshopper). > > Also I have not found any PINHEIRO… > > Eliseu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Hi Pat, My first reaction to Mary Bell Pine is that maybe Bell is an anglicized/simplified version of Botelho? Mary Botelho Pine? Familysearch.org has a Maria Pine born in 1890 in Ribeira Quente. On Jul 2, 2:12 pm, cnsp...@aol.com wrote: > Justin, Shirley, Cheri, > Antonio Vieira Anselmo was married to Mary Pine in Pleasanton,CA.? This is > her brother Manuels obituary.? I don't know if they were related to any of > you.? My grandfather was Antonio's brother.? My cousin Allison Anselmo Chacon > doesn't know which which island or village they were from.? I think they were > related to the Bells because Mary used Mary Bell Pine sometimes.? > > Manuel Pine died April 1961 > PLEASANTON - S e r v i c e s > for Manuel Pine, 96, who died Satrday > night in a fire that conunied > his home at 267 Kottinger > ave., were held here yesterday. > A native of the Azores Islands, > Mr. Pine had lived in the Pleasnton > area for 76 years. > Only surviving relatives are a > nephew, Juluis Anselmo of San > Lorenzo and several cousins in the > Fremont area. > Pine was a charter member of > he Druid Lodge. > Services were performed under > the direction o! the Druid Lodge > t the Graham and Hitch Mortury > > Thanks, > Pat Anselmo Nostrome > > > > -Original Message- > From: Shirley Allegre > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15 am > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente > > Antonio & Constancia were married on 14 Feb > 1787, Ponta Garca. > > ? > > Cheri am I related to Justin? > > Shirley > > ? > > - Original Message - > > From: > Cheri Mello > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:14 > PM > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello > Pine and Ribeira Quente > > Hi Cousin Justin, > > You'll have to wait to hear from > Shirley Allegre as to where the "Pine" came from (Pinheiro comes to mind > but I > don't know if that was correct for this particular family).? The de Mello > Pines go back to Antonio de Mello and Constancia de Jesus who I think were > married in Ponta Garca.? Not all of the children attached "Pine" after > the de Mello.? Only some did.? Shirley's line did it and yet mine > didn't. > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: > Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Hi Justin, I may be wrong and your Pine may be part of a nickname but I know of no word like this in Portuguese. At the other hand, we have - at least here in Brazil - a surname PINA. I have some friends POMPEU de PINA. Luciana Raposo On Jul 1, 5:13 pm, "justin.pine" wrote: > Does anyone have information on the DeMello Pine family from Ribeira > Quente. In particular, where did the Pine surname come from? My > efforts have not led me to any answers... perhaps someone with more > experience has already come across this information? > > Justin Pine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores DNA has a 34 out of 37 marker match!!
Robin, Yes. Perhaps you missed the last paragraph in my original post: <> If I hear back from them next week, I can let the list know. If I don't hear back from them for 2 or 3 weeks because they are on vacation, I'll let the list know then. With it being summer in North America, there are a lot of factors going on now. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores DNA has a 34 out of 37 marker match!!
How exciting Cheri! Would you keep us posted on their connections if you can? I would be curious to see how it turns out on their connections. Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores Genealogy ; islandrou...@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-07-02 14:43 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA has a 34 out of 37 marker match!! (Posted on the Azores and Island Routes lists on Google Groups). Results just came in for 2 men who match on 34 out of 37 markers!! This does make them related, although it may be a few hundred years back. http://www.familytreedna.com/genetic-distance-markers.aspx?testtype=37 These men have received the automatic notification from FTDNA. I will work with the men (or their proxies) to get their trees up to see if they are on the same island and the same freguesia. It's a holiday weekend in America, so I may not be able to get to them until next week (or if they are gone on vacation). -- Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA has a 34 out of 37 marker match!!
(Posted on the Azores and Island Routes lists on Google Groups). Results just came in for 2 men who match on 34 out of 37 markers!! This does make them related, although it may be a few hundred years back. http://www.familytreedna.com/genetic-distance-markers.aspx?testtype=37 These men have received the automatic notification from FTDNA. I will work with the men (or their proxies) to get their trees up to see if they are on the same island and the same freguesia. It's a holiday weekend in America, so I may not be able to get to them until next week (or if they are gone on vacation). -- Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Eliseu, It very well may be. I couldn't put the diacritics into the computer when I first started using it. Cheri On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva < eliseuman...@sapo.pt> wrote: > > Just occurred me that may be your PINE is PINÉ... > > > Eliseu > > > > > -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
I have consulted the Books of Marriages of Ribeira Quente, from 19 May 1833 to 18 Oct 1900 (555 marriages) and I have found this nicknames as names: - Carrossas(wagons), Fonfinha (Fluffy?), Preto (Black), Bonito (Beautiful), Quieto(Still), Benfeito (well manufactured), Cidade(City), Rozenina(son/daughter of a woman named Rosa) - Mello Mellão (Mello Melon), Mello Piné (?), Mello Pedreiro (Mello Stonemason), Mello Gafanhoto (Mello Grasshopper). Also I have not found any PINHEIRO… Eliseu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] PINÉ - Pinheiro - Ribeira Quente
As the word PINÉ means a kind of bird or a kind of plant from Brasil may be this PINÉ was related to someone that had immigrated to Brasil, or may be himself had been in Brasil, or it was someone who was somehow related to Brasil… eliseu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Just occurred me that may be your PINE is PINÉ... Eliseu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Justin, Shirley, Cheri, Antonio Vieira Anselmo was married to Mary Pine in Pleasanton,CA.? This is her brother Manuels obituary.? I don't know if they were related to any of you.? My grandfather was Antonio's brother.? My cousin Allison Anselmo Chacon doesn't know which which island or village they were from.? I think they were related to the Bells because Mary used Mary Bell Pine sometimes.? Manuel Pine died April 1961 PLEASANTON - S e r v i c e s for Manuel Pine, 96, who died Satrday night in a fire that conunied his home at 267 Kottinger ave., were held here yesterday. A native of the Azores Islands, Mr. Pine had lived in the Pleasnton area for 76 years. Only surviving relatives are a nephew, Juluis Anselmo of San Lorenzo and several cousins in the Fremont area. Pine was a charter member of he Druid Lodge. Services were performed under the direction o! the Druid Lodge t the Graham and Hitch Mortury Thanks, Pat Anselmo Nostrome -Original Message- From: Shirley Allegre To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente Antonio & Constancia were married on 14 Feb 1787, Ponta Garca. ? Cheri am I related to Justin? Shirley ? - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente Hi Cousin Justin, You'll have to wait to hear from Shirley Allegre as to where the "Pine" came from (Pinheiro comes to mind but I don't know if that was correct for this particular family).? The de Mello Pines go back to Antonio de Mello and Constancia de Jesus who I think were married in Ponta Garca.? Not all of the children attached "Pine" after the de Mello.? Only some did.? Shirley's line did it and yet mine didn't. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels
Hi Steven, Delfina's translation is Delphinium which is a flower. In those days women didn't have surnames many of them carried a 2nd first name from their fore-mothers, ie Rosa Jacinta etc. Cheers, Margaret On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Steven McNamara wrote: > Thanks again Judi! > > > > I found Ermalinda’s obit. When I found the record of Manuel P. Daniels & > Rose Silva’s/ Silveira wedding it listed Ermalinda Delfina. Does Delfina > mean King in Portuguese or does it have a different meaning? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steven > > > -- > > *From:* Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Judi Phillips > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:32 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels > > > > Ermalinda King Silveira's obit is in the paper dated Feb. 11, 1935 on Page > 2. He was already deceased, and it listed her address and surviving > children including Rosa Daniels. You might also try Mt. Carmel Church. All > the funerals were held there. I was able to get the section and plot number > for my grandmother's burial in 1942 from the funeral home, so don't forget > to check with them. > I searched for Rosa's obit, but no luck. I did however find one for one of > her daughters who died at age 29 in 1945, so we know Rosa was still alive in > 1945. > Good luck. > Judi > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
maybe it's not Pinheiro - maybe it derives from pino (peg, pin; highest point), or pinho (pine, pine timber, pine tree) or pinha (pine cone) On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:06 AM, JR wrote: > > Our characteristics and where they ultimately come from may be > somewhat different and have some "foreign influences and mix," but the > evidence of the past 300 years is that the Mello's came from Ponta > Garca and before that, from Santa Maria, all in the Azores. > > JR > > On Jul 2, 8:37 am, "justin.pine" wrote: >> Hi JR, >> >> I am well aware of families using nicknames and this is especially >> true in Ribeira Quente. However, I do not know any family that has >> incorporated their nickname into their last name. I know this from >> personal knowledge/experience. The nicknames continue to this day. >> The DeMello Pine's for some reason had Pine recorded as their last >> name (whereas the Pacheco family did not have "caranguejo" added to >> their last name). >> >> It's true there are a lot of DeMello's in the Azores but in a village >> the size of Ribeira Quente I doubt there were so many that a nickname >> was required - plus, the surname DeMello Pine recorded back through >> 1825 doesn't seem to me like Pine is just a nickname. The fair skin, >> blonde hair and "un-Portuguese" characteristics of the Pine family >> suggests that there may be some English blood. Ribeira Quente was/is >> after all a major fishing port on the island that could have easily >> been frequented by foreign sailors. >> >> However, I appreciate your post and think it may very well be true. >> But one final question: why Pine? It's not Portuguese. I doubt >> they >> translated Pinheiro to Pine - however it is possible, but I think >> highly unlikely. Additionally, Pinheiro was already a common surname >> and therefore would not serve well as a nickname. >> >> Alas, the question remains unanswered - maybe forever. But there may >> still an answer out there left to be uncovered. >> >> Justin >> >> On Jul 2, 12:56 am, JR wrote: >> >> >> >>> I would suggest Pine originated as a nickname attached to the >>> regular >>> family name of Mello. I have seen many such nicknames and most >>> originated in the mid to late 1800's when the population was >>> increasing rapidly. I would say the main reason would be to >>> distinguish families with the name Mello, and the nickname would be >>> something they did, or lived by, or were given by other people, etc. >>> Occasionally people are given nicknames because of their >>> profession or >>> job and that sometimes sticks. There is also a Mello Arrupia from >>> Ponta Garca and Ribeira Quente, and that name arose the same way as >>> your Mello Pine. >> >>> JR >> >>> On Jul 1, 4:13 pm, "justin.pine" wrote: >> Does anyone have information on the DeMello Pine family from Ribeira Quente. In particular, where did the Pine surname come from? My efforts have not led me to any answers... perhaps someone with more experience has already come across this information? >> Justin Pine- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Our characteristics and where they ultimately come from may be somewhat different and have some "foreign influences and mix," but the evidence of the past 300 years is that the Mello's came from Ponta Garca and before that, from Santa Maria, all in the Azores. JR On Jul 2, 8:37 am, "justin.pine" wrote: > Hi JR, > > I am well aware of families using nicknames and this is especially > true in Ribeira Quente. However, I do not know any family that has > incorporated their nickname into their last name. I know this from > personal knowledge/experience. The nicknames continue to this day. > The DeMello Pine's for some reason had Pine recorded as their last > name (whereas the Pacheco family did not have "caranguejo" added to > their last name). > > It's true there are a lot of DeMello's in the Azores but in a village > the size of Ribeira Quente I doubt there were so many that a nickname > was required - plus, the surname DeMello Pine recorded back through > 1825 doesn't seem to me like Pine is just a nickname. The fair skin, > blonde hair and "un-Portuguese" characteristics of the Pine family > suggests that there may be some English blood. Ribeira Quente was/is > after all a major fishing port on the island that could have easily > been frequented by foreign sailors. > > However, I appreciate your post and think it may very well be true. > But one final question: why Pine? It's not Portuguese. I doubt they > translated Pinheiro to Pine - however it is possible, but I think > highly unlikely. Additionally, Pinheiro was already a common surname > and therefore would not serve well as a nickname. > > Alas, the question remains unanswered - maybe forever. But there may > still an answer out there left to be uncovered. > > Justin > > On Jul 2, 12:56 am, JR wrote: > > > > > I would suggest Pine originated as a nickname attached to the regular > > family name of Mello. I have seen many such nicknames and most > > originated in the mid to late 1800's when the population was > > increasing rapidly. I would say the main reason would be to > > distinguish families with the name Mello, and the nickname would be > > something they did, or lived by, or were given by other people, etc. > > Occasionally people are given nicknames because of their profession or > > job and that sometimes sticks. There is also a Mello Arrupia from > > Ponta Garca and Ribeira Quente, and that name arose the same way as > > your Mello Pine. > > > JR > > > On Jul 1, 4:13 pm, "justin.pine" wrote: > > > > Does anyone have information on the DeMello Pine family from Ribeira > > > Quente. In particular, where did the Pine surname come from? My > > > efforts have not led me to any answers... perhaps someone with more > > > experience has already come across this information? > > > > Justin Pine- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Antonio & Constancia were married on 14 Feb 1787, Ponta Garca. Cheri am I related to Justin? Shirley - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente Hi Cousin Justin, You'll have to wait to hear from Shirley Allegre as to where the "Pine" came from (Pinheiro comes to mind but I don't know if that was correct for this particular family). The de Mello Pines go back to Antonio de Mello and Constancia de Jesus who I think were married in Ponta Garca. Not all of the children attached "Pine" after the de Mello. Only some did. Shirley's line did it and yet mine didn't. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
My grandfather De Mello Pine was dark too. My grandmother was a Lima. A blonde with hazel blue eyes. So their children were dark, medium, and light skinned. Shirley - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente Justin, I'll fire up my genealogy program after work and let you know the marriage year. Antonio married Constancia probably in the late 1700s. There is no Pinheiro in this line (or none that has been discovered). I just think that pine tree is the literal translation for Pinheiro for some reason. This line doesn't go back to England. It goes to Santa Maria island where the records are really deteriorated (sp). The direct line in my family was dark. My father (when he was younger) had such dark hair that I'd always use a black crayon. He would get very dark in the summer too. So not all in the family are fair. I also tested his DNA. This branch is Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype - the most common of the most common European grouping out there. More later. Cheri On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:25 AM, justin.pine wrote: Cheri - thanks so much for the post. Do you know when Antonio de Mello and Constancia married? I know that a Manoel DeMello Pine was in Ribeira Quente back in 1825 and he also married a DeJesus. I agree that Pinheiro was not probably correct for this family. There's no reason why they would not have simply used Pinheiro. Pine is not at all a Portuguese word. Given the fair complexion the family has - based on personal knowledge and the photo online of Joe DeMello Pine - there has to be some English blood. Or someone must have left to America or England to return with the nickname. It's an interesting question... On Jul 1, 6:14 pm, Cheri Mello wrote: > Hi Cousin Justin, > > You'll have to wait to hear from Shirley Allegre as to where the "Pine" came > from (Pinheiro comes to mind but I don't know if that was correct for this > particular family). The de Mello Pines go back to Antonio de Mello and > Constancia de Jesus who I think were married in Ponta Garca. Not all of the > children attached "Pine" after the de Mello. Only some did. Shirley's line > did it and yet mine didn't. > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Cheri: I have had SHINGLES since 22 June. I am not on the computer daily. - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente JR, Yep, the Pine is in the mid to late 1800s. I'd say that there were plenty of Mellos in Ribeira Quente too so it would help distinguish them. I just can't remember why they choose Pine. Shirley probably knows. It was her branch that did it. I don't think Shirley is on her email right now though. She'd be all over this thread!! I'll give her a call. Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
My mother was a DE MELLO PINE. My grandfather, Jose "Joe"'s parents were Antonio de Mello X Antonia Jacintha de Arruda. My grandfather used the name Joe de Mello until about 1915. His brother-in-law, who lived next door was Frank Mello. There were people in both families with the same given name, so the mail was sometimes going to the wrong family. SO -- my grandfather added on the name PINE. I don't know why he picked that name. One of my cousin uses DEMELLOPINE. his brother uses PINE. Go figure. Shirley - Original Message - From: "justin.pine" To: "Azores Genealogy" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:37 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente Hi JR, I am well aware of families using nicknames and this is especially true in Ribeira Quente. However, I do not know any family that has incorporated their nickname into their last name. I know this from personal knowledge/experience. The nicknames continue to this day. The DeMello Pine's for some reason had Pine recorded as their last name (whereas the Pacheco family did not have "caranguejo" added to their last name). It's true there are a lot of DeMello's in the Azores but in a village the size of Ribeira Quente I doubt there were so many that a nickname was required - plus, the surname DeMello Pine recorded back through 1825 doesn't seem to me like Pine is just a nickname. The fair skin, blonde hair and "un-Portuguese" characteristics of the Pine family suggests that there may be some English blood. Ribeira Quente was/is after all a major fishing port on the island that could have easily been frequented by foreign sailors. However, I appreciate your post and think it may very well be true. But one final question: why Pine? It's not Portuguese. I doubt they translated Pinheiro to Pine - however it is possible, but I think highly unlikely. Additionally, Pinheiro was already a common surname and therefore would not serve well as a nickname. Alas, the question remains unanswered - maybe forever. But there may still an answer out there left to be uncovered. Justin On Jul 2, 12:56 am, JR wrote: > I would suggest Pine originated as a nickname attached to the regular > family name of Mello. I have seen many such nicknames and most > originated in the mid to late 1800's when the population was > increasing rapidly. I would say the main reason would be to > distinguish families with the name Mello, and the nickname would be > something they did, or lived by, or were given by other people, etc. > Occasionally people are given nicknames because of their profession or > job and that sometimes sticks. There is also a Mello Arrupia from > Ponta Garca and Ribeira Quente, and that name arose the same way as > your Mello Pine. > > JR > > On Jul 1, 4:13 pm, "justin.pine" wrote: > > > > > Does anyone have information on the DeMello Pine family from Ribeira > > Quente. In particular, where did the Pine surname come from? My > > efforts have not led me to any answers... perhaps someone with more > > experience has already come across this information? > > > Justin Pine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Which De Mello Pine are you looking for in Ribeira Quente? I have several. Shirley - Original Message - From: "justin.pine" To: "Azores Genealogy" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente Does anyone have information on the DeMello Pine family from Ribeira Quente. In particular, where did the Pine surname come from? My efforts have not led me to any answers... perhaps someone with more experience has already come across this information? Justin Pine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
It is possible that Pinheiro was translated to Pine. The dictionary gives the meaning of pinheiro as pine tree. I know of a person whose name was Cunha. They called themselves Wedge, again a literal translation. You may never know the reason names were changed, added, deleted, or translated. My best guess about my family is that when someone "in authority" said that the name they had meant something else here, they agreed. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com But one final question: why Pine? It's not Portuguese. I doubt they translated Pinheiro to Pine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels
In a message dated 7/2/2009 10:18:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jude2...@msn.com writes: > Sorry, Steven, > I can only guess. I'm sure someone else on this list will know and answer > your question. > Glad I could help. > Judi Ermelinda Delfina were probably given names, i.e. Emmaline Delphinia. Family names might have included dos Reis, which would translate into King in English as well as Reese. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Justin, I'll fire up my genealogy program after work and let you know the marriage year. Antonio married Constancia probably in the late 1700s. There is no Pinheiro in this line (or none that has been discovered). I just think that pine tree is the literal translation for Pinheiro for some reason. This line doesn't go back to England. It goes to Santa Maria island where the records are really deteriorated (sp). The direct line in my family was dark. My father (when he was younger) had such dark hair that I'd always use a black crayon. He would get very dark in the summer too. So not all in the family are fair. I also tested his DNA. This branch is Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype - the most common of the most common European grouping out there. More later. Cheri On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:25 AM, justin.pine wrote: > > Cheri - thanks so much for the post. Do you know when Antonio de > Mello and Constancia married? I know that a Manoel DeMello Pine was > in Ribeira Quente back in 1825 and he also married a DeJesus. > > I agree that Pinheiro was not probably correct for this family. > There's no reason why they would not have simply used Pinheiro. Pine > is not at all a Portuguese word. Given the fair complexion the family > has - based on personal knowledge and the photo online of Joe DeMello > Pine - there has to be some English blood. Or someone must have left > to America or England to return with the nickname. > > It's an interesting question... > > On Jul 1, 6:14 pm, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Hi Cousin Justin, > > > > You'll have to wait to hear from Shirley Allegre as to where the "Pine" > came > > from (Pinheiro comes to mind but I don't know if that was correct for > this > > particular family). The de Mello Pines go back to Antonio de Mello and > > Constancia de Jesus who I think were married in Ponta Garca. Not all of > the > > children attached "Pine" after the de Mello. Only some did. Shirley's > line > > did it and yet mine didn't. > > > > -- > > Cheri Mello > > Listowner, Azores-Gen > > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, > > Achada > > > > -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels
Sorry, Steven, I can only guess. I'm sure someone else on this list will know and answer your question. Glad I could help. Judi From: skmcnam...@comcast.net To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:19:15 -0400 Thanks again Judi! I found Ermalinda’s obit. When I found the record of Manuel P. Daniels & Rose Silva’s/ Silveira wedding it listed Ermalinda Delfina. Does Delfina mean King in Portuguese or does it have a different meaning? Thanks, Steven From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judi Phillips Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels Ermalinda King Silveira's obit is in the paper dated Feb. 11, 1935 on Page 2. He was already deceased, and it listed her address and surviving children including Rosa Daniels. You might also try Mt. Carmel Church. All the funerals were held there. I was able to get the section and plot number for my grandmother's burial in 1942 from the funeral home, so don't forget to check with them. I searched for Rosa's obit, but no luck. I did however find one for one of her daughters who died at age 29 in 1945, so we know Rosa was still alive in 1945. Good luck. Judi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Hi JR, I am well aware of families using nicknames and this is especially true in Ribeira Quente. However, I do not know any family that has incorporated their nickname into their last name. I know this from personal knowledge/experience. The nicknames continue to this day. The DeMello Pine's for some reason had Pine recorded as their last name (whereas the Pacheco family did not have "caranguejo" added to their last name). It's true there are a lot of DeMello's in the Azores but in a village the size of Ribeira Quente I doubt there were so many that a nickname was required - plus, the surname DeMello Pine recorded back through 1825 doesn't seem to me like Pine is just a nickname. The fair skin, blonde hair and "un-Portuguese" characteristics of the Pine family suggests that there may be some English blood. Ribeira Quente was/is after all a major fishing port on the island that could have easily been frequented by foreign sailors. However, I appreciate your post and think it may very well be true. But one final question: why Pine? It's not Portuguese. I doubt they translated Pinheiro to Pine - however it is possible, but I think highly unlikely. Additionally, Pinheiro was already a common surname and therefore would not serve well as a nickname. Alas, the question remains unanswered - maybe forever. But there may still an answer out there left to be uncovered. Justin On Jul 2, 12:56 am, JR wrote: > I would suggest Pine originated as a nickname attached to the regular > family name of Mello. I have seen many such nicknames and most > originated in the mid to late 1800's when the population was > increasing rapidly. I would say the main reason would be to > distinguish families with the name Mello, and the nickname would be > something they did, or lived by, or were given by other people, etc. > Occasionally people are given nicknames because of their profession or > job and that sometimes sticks. There is also a Mello Arrupia from > Ponta Garca and Ribeira Quente, and that name arose the same way as > your Mello Pine. > > JR > > On Jul 1, 4:13 pm, "justin.pine" wrote: > > > > > Does anyone have information on the DeMello Pine family from Ribeira > > Quente. In particular, where did the Pine surname come from? My > > efforts have not led me to any answers... perhaps someone with more > > experience has already come across this information? > > > Justin Pine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels
Thanks again Judi! I found Ermalinda's obit. When I found the record of Manuel P. Daniels & Rose Silva's/ Silveira wedding it listed Ermalinda Delfina. Does Delfina mean King in Portuguese or does it have a different meaning? Thanks, Steven _ From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judi Phillips Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P. Daniels & Rose (Silva) Daniels Ermalinda King Silveira's obit is in the paper dated Feb. 11, 1935 on Page 2. He was already deceased, and it listed her address and surviving children including Rosa Daniels. You might also try Mt. Carmel Church. All the funerals were held there. I was able to get the section and plot number for my grandmother's burial in 1942 from the funeral home, so don't forget to check with them. I searched for Rosa's obit, but no luck. I did however find one for one of her daughters who died at age 29 in 1945, so we know Rosa was still alive in 1945. Good luck. Judi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
Cheri - thanks so much for the post. Do you know when Antonio de Mello and Constancia married? I know that a Manoel DeMello Pine was in Ribeira Quente back in 1825 and he also married a DeJesus. I agree that Pinheiro was not probably correct for this family. There's no reason why they would not have simply used Pinheiro. Pine is not at all a Portuguese word. Given the fair complexion the family has - based on personal knowledge and the photo online of Joe DeMello Pine - there has to be some English blood. Or someone must have left to America or England to return with the nickname. It's an interesting question... On Jul 1, 6:14 pm, Cheri Mello wrote: > Hi Cousin Justin, > > You'll have to wait to hear from Shirley Allegre as to where the "Pine" came > from (Pinheiro comes to mind but I don't know if that was correct for this > particular family). The de Mello Pines go back to Antonio de Mello and > Constancia de Jesus who I think were married in Ponta Garca. Not all of the > children attached "Pine" after the de Mello. Only some did. Shirley's line > did it and yet mine didn't. > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: De Mello Pine and Ribeira Quente
JR, Yep, the Pine is in the mid to late 1800s. I'd say that there were plenty of Mellos in Ribeira Quente too so it would help distinguish them. I just can't remember why they choose Pine. Shirley probably knows. It was her branch that did it. I don't think Shirley is on her email right now though. She'd be all over this thread!! I'll give her a call. Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
