[AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration - Ship logs
I was wondering if anyone knew when I could find ship logs for various ships that took portuguese immirgrants from the Azores and Madeira to California? I have of course looked through the different passenger manifests and lists, but some there are some details that I was trying to find - such as there were 2 deaths on board of my ancestors supposidly due to accidents, and maybe the ship logs would make note of that and possibly state if they were burried at sea or at a different port. Any info would be helpful. David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
Karen, just a note, I'm from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
I would be more inclined to say 'Hakalau'. A plantation located midway between Hilo Laupahoehoe on the Hamakua coast of the Big Island. A lot of my relatives got their start there too. Have you checked the 1900 1910 Census? PS In my 23 yrs on BI never heard of either Haukula or HoomulaHonomu yes, near Hakalau. From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, just a note, I’m from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] passport
My great-grandfather's passport was from the King of Portugal around the same time as your ancestor left the Azores. M ine lived on Terceira. I have no idea how I came across it but my Dad may have had it. - Shirl - Would he have needed a passport to leave the Azores and since he was from Faial and probably left from that port would a record of passport be there and would it show his village of origin? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
Yes, I was also thinking later that it could also be Hakalau, Hoomula is in the Kona area of the big island. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat Thornberg Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:39 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation I would be more inclined to say 'Hakalau'. A plantation located midway between Hilo Laupahoehoe on the Hamakua coast of the Big Island. A lot of my relatives got their start there too. Have you checked the 1900 1910 Census? PS In my 23 yrs on BI never heard of either Haukula or HoomulaHonomu yes, near Hakalau. From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, just a note, I'm from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
Gail I goofed on the name it is Hakalau - Sorry. From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:01 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, just a note, I’m from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
IT WAS HAKALAU. I should have looked it up before I tried to type it LOL. From: Pat Thornberg hailiha...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation I would be more inclined to say 'Hakalau'. A plantation located midway between Hilo Laupahoehoe on the Hamakua coast of the Big Island. A lot of my relatives got their start there too. Have you checked the 1900 1910 Census? PS In my 23 yrs on BI never heard of either Haukula or HoomulaHonomu yes, near Hakalau. From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, just a note, I’m from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
[AZORES-Genealogy] ship passage from NY to last destination
Just wondering on the ship manifest arriving at NY it says finale destination Fall River, MA where do we find those ship records from NY to Fall River etc.. ? Thank you so much. Wendi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Grant - Dairy in Visalia to HI about 1916
Repost for Kate: krazykate50 at gmail.com my grandfather, manuel mariano grant, sold his dairy near visalia, ca in 1916 to someone in hawaii(i assume portuguese). he went with the cows on a ship and set the dairy up. he apparently stayed there for a few months till all was working and then came back. i've been told it was one of the first dairys in hawaii but i have no idea who he sold it too and where it was. maybe some one does and could let me know. thanks -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation? Help - d'Aguiar, d'Oliveira and Rapozo - Ginetes
Utilizing the Ernesto do Canto indices I found three marraiges in the records of Ginetes - unforunately for two of them I can read the mothers full name but not the fathers; and I am confused on the fathers name for the third: 1. Cath. Ferreiera married Manuel Rapazo on 21 October 1691 - her mothers is given as Maria Ferreira and her father as Mel (Manuel?) ANDIADES? 2. Thomazo d'Oliveira married Maria d'Aguiar on 24 February 1695 - his father is given as Pedro and mother was as Barbara Travossos. Is the fathers suraname d'Oliveira? or unknown? There is a marriage early enough to be these parents under the nameso of Pedro Garcia and Barbara Travossos in the 1670's. 3. Maria d'Aguiar who married the above Thomazo in 1695 - her father is given as Antonio SIR/SIV??CO - her mother was (yet, another, Maria d'Aguiar). I just want to make sure I have these surnames correct. Any help appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation? Help - d'Aguiar, d'Oliveira and Rapozo - Ginetes
Utilizing the Ernesto do Canto indices I found three marraiges in the records of Ginetes - unforunately for two of them I can read the mothers full name but not the fathers; and I am confused on the fathers name for the third: 1. Cath. Ferreiera married Manuel Rapazo on 21 October 1691 - her mothers is given as Maria Ferreira and her father as Mel (Manuel?) ANDIADES? Maria Ferreira and Manuel d' Andrade 2. Thomaz d'Oliveira married Maria d'Aguiar on 24 February 1695 - his father is given as Pedro and mother was as Barbara Travassos. Is the fathers suraname d'Oliveira? or unknown? There is a marriage early enough to be these parents under the nameso of Pedro Garcia and Barbara Travossos in the 1670's. What is the date for Pedro Garcia and Barbara Travassos? 3. Maria d'Aguiar who married the above Thomaz in 1695 - her father is given as Antonio Simões - her mother was (yet, another, Maria d'Aguiar). I just want to make sure I have these surnames correct. Any help appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation? Help - d'Aguiar, d'Oliveira and Rapozo - Ginetes
Altino and Marcio - Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciated. Marcio - Pedro Garcia and Barbara Travassos were married on October 7, 1666 Lee. On Friday, September 21, 2012 7:09:53 PM UTC-4, Altino DeMelo wrote: The second record reads Thomas d'Oliveira and Maria d'Aguiar His father is Pedro ... And Barbara Travassos. Her parents are Antonio Simoes and Maria de Aguiar. Sent from my iPod On 2012-09-21, at 6:15 PM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net javascript: wrote: Utilizing the Ernesto do Canto indices I found three marraiges in the records of Ginetes - unforunately for two of them I can read the mothers full name but not the fathers; and I am confused on the fathers name for the third: 1. Cath. Ferreiera married Manuel Rapazo on 21 October 1691 - her mothers is given as Maria Ferreira and her father as Mel (Manuel?) ANDIADES? 2. Thomazo d'Oliveira married Maria d'Aguiar on 24 February 1695 - his father is given as Pedro and mother was as Barbara Travossos. Is the fathers suraname d'Oliveira? or unknown? There is a marriage early enough to be these parents under the nameso of Pedro Garcia and Barbara Travossos in the 1670's. 3. Maria d'Aguiar who married the above Thomazo in 1695 - her father is given as Antonio SIR/SIV??CO - her mother was (yet, another, Maria d'Aguiar). I just want to make sure I have these surnames correct. Any help appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ship passage from NY to last destination
Wendi, According to either John P. Colletta (in They Came in Ships) or Michael Tepper (in American Passenger Arrival Records), the ship captain could count them in either port. So you have to check Ellis Island (or Castle Garden if it was before 1892) and the final port. I'm guessing that if someone's final destination was Fall River, they would sail into New Bedford or possibly Boston or Providence. So check them all. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation? Help - d'Aguiar, d'Oliveira and Rapozo - Ginetes
Altino - just looked at the document - this may be the wrong one - they were married in 1695; this one says 1697. And you're correct - it's hard to read. Lee On Friday, September 21, 2012 7:09:53 PM UTC-4, Altino DeMelo wrote: The second record reads Thomas d'Oliveira and Maria d'Aguiar His father is Pedro ... And Barbara Travassos. Her parents are Antonio Simoes and Maria de Aguiar. Sent from my iPod On 2012-09-21, at 6:15 PM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net javascript: wrote: Utilizing the Ernesto do Canto indices I found three marraiges in the records of Ginetes - unforunately for two of them I can read the mothers full name but not the fathers; and I am confused on the fathers name for the third: 1. Cath. Ferreiera married Manuel Rapazo on 21 October 1691 - her mothers is given as Maria Ferreira and her father as Mel (Manuel?) ANDIADES? 2. Thomazo d'Oliveira married Maria d'Aguiar on 24 February 1695 - his father is given as Pedro and mother was as Barbara Travossos. Is the fathers suraname d'Oliveira? or unknown? There is a marriage early enough to be these parents under the nameso of Pedro Garcia and Barbara Travossos in the 1670's. 3. Maria d'Aguiar who married the above Thomazo in 1695 - her father is given as Antonio SIR/SIV??CO - her mother was (yet, another, Maria d'Aguiar). I just want to make sure I have these surnames correct. Any help appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
Hakalau is about 15 minutes from my home, I grew up along the Hamakua Coast with the plantations. It was a very special time for me. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Boggs Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:44 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation It was Hakalau that my grandmother was born. I believe my g grandfather worked on the plantation there. _ From: Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, My Vieira Anselmo grandfather and great grandfather were listed on the 1890 census Hawaii big island, Hamakua district at Hanalima. The 1890 directory for the big island lists them near Pahala. They came on the second voyage of the Highflyer in 1881 from San Miguel and went to Pleasanton,CA in 1893. I don't know what plantation that was. Pat Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Pat Thornberg hailiha...@yahoo.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation I would be more inclined to say 'Hakalau'. A plantation located midway between Hilo Laupahoehoe on the Hamakua coast of the Big Island. A lot of my relatives got their start there too. Have you checked the 1900 1910 Census? PS In my 23 yrs on BI never heard of either Haukula or HoomulaHonomu yes, near Hakalau. From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, just a note, I'm from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com? ] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joaquim Francisco Avila Attn: Gayle
Hi Gayle, Thank you very much for the website tip. I was able to confirm my grandfather's Lajes do Pico family from his and his sister's birthdates (which I knew). Traced back to 5X greatgrandparents :Antonio Goulart Rosa (d.1781) and Maria Piedade (d.1770). I thought I could get information on my grandmother's town by dividing the URL and adding Bandeiras. It didn't work, however. Do you happen to know of the home website where I can enter other Pico towns? Thanks Again, Bob bob.ross...@gmail.com On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:08 PM, goodw...@aol.com wrote: Bob, Would the following website be of interest to you ? www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria;n=macedo;oc=7 Gayle -Original Message- From: Robert Ross bob.ross...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:11 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joaquim Francisco Avila Hello Linda, I have some some coincidences in my searches to yours (though there are stumbling blocks, too): Both of my maternal grandparents were born on Pico. Adelaide Caroline Costa, my grandmother, came to the U.S. in 1910 and was from Bandeiras. Antonio Inacio de Brum, my grandfather came in 1892 and was from Lages do Pico. His last name was Americanized [and misspelled] from Inacio to Enas. My grandfather's maternal grandmother was a Maria Macedo. I only have a date for her death, 1893. Trouble is that I have a Antonio Louis Bettencourt as her spouse, not Joaquim Francisco Avila. If your Maria and my Maria were similar in age, my Maria could have been biologically able to give birth to a daughter (also named Maria) who gave birth to my grandfather in 1879. (maybe?) Anyway, everyone in my grandfather's family was from Lages do Pico and I only know of his sister moving to the U.S. Antonio's family (Enas) settled in Visalia, California. Antonio's sister (Mrs. Joseph Pedro), settled in Pendleton, Oregon. Good Luck on your search. I've found there are popular names that seem to be used over again for different reasons. Lages seems like a small place with dozens and dozens of cousins. Bob Ross bob.ross...@gmail.com On Sep 1, 2012, at 12:46 AM, David Leitz wrote: Does anyone have any info on a Joaquim Francisco Avila born April 2, 1823 in Lajes do Pico. He married a Maria Macedo (Maria Conceicao) in 1859 and had several children. According to my grandmother 2 of the daughters moved to the U.S. One died when she was young - (maybe 40 +or-), was married to an alcoholic husband. My grandmother was not sure why she died and what happened to the other aunt. Any info, or ideas where to start looking, would be appreciated. Thanks, Linda Leitz -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation? Help - d'Aguiar, d'Oliveira and Rapozo - Ginetes
Lee, if you look really close, i think the year is 1696. (The next couple married underneath them is Manuel da Costa and Maria da Sousa, married in 1697. From: Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:54:23 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation? Help - d'Aguiar, d'Oliveira and Rapozo - Ginetes Altino - just looked at the document - this may be the wrong one - they were married in 1695; this one says 1697. And you're correct - it's hard to read. Lee On Friday, September 21, 2012 7:09:53 PM UTC-4, Altino DeMelo wrote: The second record reads Thomas d'Oliveira and Maria d'Aguiar His father is Pedro ... And Barbara Travassos. Her parents are Antonio Simoes and Maria de Aguiar. Sent from my iPod On 2012-09-21, at 6:15 PM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net wrote: Utilizing the Ernesto do Canto indices I found three marraiges in the records of Ginetes - unforunately for two of them I can read the mothers full name but not the fathers; and I am confused on the fathers name for the third: 1. Cath. Ferreiera married Manuel Rapazo on 21 October 1691 - her mothers is given as Maria Ferreira and her father as Mel (Manuel?) ANDIADES? 2. Thomazo d'Oliveira married Maria d'Aguiar on 24 February 1695 - his father is given as Pedro and mother was as Barbara Travossos. Is the fathers suraname d'Oliveira? or unknown? There is a marriage early enough to be these parents under the nameso of Pedro Garcia and Barbara Travossos in the 1670's. 3. Maria d'Aguiar who married the above Thomazo in 1695 - her father is given as Antonio SIR/SIV??CO - her mother was (yet, another, Maria d'Aguiar). I just want to make sure I have these surnames correct. Any help appreciated.-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+un...@ googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
