Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Question

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Lisa,

Sometimes, IT (Information Technology) is just so "duh!"

Look at the list of matches.  To the right of the photo area are 4 icons.
1) Envelope.  This is the email address
2) A cartoon balloon.  This is where you can make notes about your match (I
like the notepad much better).
3) A box with 3 boxes below.  This is the Gedcom.
4) A goofy twisted arrows, like an X.  This is the "In Common With."  Click
on that and a pop up comes up and you can pick In Common With or Not In
Common With.

Of course IT did not put any little pop up windows.  Geez, if you pointed
at the icons and a pop up appeared and told you what it was, you'd know.
Sometimes, IT drives me nuts.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel S. Albuquerque Sr.

[Cheri Mello]

HI Carl,

Knowing that you are researching a grandfather is not helpful.  I don't
know if you are a 60 year old man researching about 1900 or a 20 year old
man researching in the 1940s.

Try posting the vitals you have on Manuel S. Alburquerque.  Date and place
of birth, date and place of marriage, etc.  Also places where he lived.

Generally, most people make a connection to the list about 200 years back,
so that's the early 1800s.  Remember, I said generally. Not always.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anton Souza Santos

[Janet Terry]

Agnew State Hospital was in San Jose, Ca.  Hopefully the following link
will be of help:
http://www.dds.ca.gov/Agnews/Index.cfm

Janet
 On Dec 31, 2013 9:19 PM, "Sandra Valine Dauer"  wrote:

> Tish Thank you for sharing.  Many leads in this site for me to check.
> Sandra
>
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> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Tish M  wrote:
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>> Sandra,
>> Here is a link about state hospital burials.
>> http://www.californiaclients.org/projects/facts040202.cfm
>> Tish
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Sandra Valine Dauer 
>> wrote:
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>>> Thank you for the suggestion
>>> Sandra Valine Dauer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:19 AM,  wrote:
>>>
  Sandra, did you ask if they had a burial site at the hosp, Sonoma
 state used to bury on site.

  In a message dated 12/30/2013 6:06:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 acore...@gmail.com writes:

  My Grandfather's brother,Antonio Vieira Valim, died 1906 Jan 06 at
 Napa State Hospital. Attached death record listed his cause of death
 --Exhaustion and contribution Organic Disease of _ He is one of my
 brick walls, unable to locate his burial location.  Have written cemeteries
 in the area. Contacted Napa State
 hospital, Imola Ca 94558 and records where destroyed 10 years after
 death.  Undertaker Sanborn records were not located.
 Sandra Valine Dauer


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel S. Albuquerque Sr.

[Carl Albuquerque]

Greetings,

My Grandfather, Manuel Albuquerque is buried in Ponta Delgada.  I  recently 
found a letter from him to my father, indicating his three neighbors who 
had "HAM" radio licenses in the 1970s:

CT2AC:  Jose Oliveira
CT2AK:  Joao Raposo
CT2BC:  Gil Carreiro

I'm very interested if any of these names ring a bell, and I'm also 
interested in finding out more about where my Grandfather is buried, his 
final days, etc.

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Carl Albuquerque

Saudações,

Meu avô, Manuel Albuquerque é enterrado em Ponta Delgada. Recentemente 
encontrei uma carta dele para o meu pai, indicando seus três vizinhos que 
tinham licenças de rádio "ham" na década de 1970:

CT2AC: Jose Oliveira
CT2AK: João Raposo
CT2BC: Gil Carreiro

Estou muito interessado em saber se qualquer um desses nomes tocar um sino, 
e eu também estou interessado em saber mais sobre o local onde o meu avô 
está enterrado, os seus dias finais, etc

Agradecemos antecipadamente,

Carl Albuquerque

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[John Raposo]

There are Rodovalhos in S. Miguel before that, but remember, vital records, in 
most parishes, do not go back that far. RR has a marriage in 1530, and a will 
in 1534 for Rodovalho descendants in S. Miguel.

John





On Sunday, January 12, 2014 12:14 PM, "p...@dholmes.com"  
wrote:
 
That's all? You mean they didn't live anywhere else? :-)

I suppose the 1584 date is what you can find now in records. If that is when 
they arrived, then I suppose they did come over from Terceira, because it's at 
least another 100 years older on Terceira.

I have a line from Pico and one from Terceira, but haven't yet hooked them up 
to the tronco.


Thanks for the info, Jorge.

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
www.dholmes.com


 Original Message 
>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel
>From: George Pacheco 
>Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 10:03 am
>To: Azores-Gen 
>
>
>The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo 
>Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz, 
>Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada, São 
>Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila Franca, 
>the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas.
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM,  wrote:
>
>Hi Manoel,
>>
>>
>>From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao 
>>Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.
>>
>>
>>Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo Rodrigues?
>>
>>
>>
>>Doug da Rocha Holmes
>>Sacramento, California
>>Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>>916-550-1618
>>www.dholmes.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Original Message 
>>>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO
>>>From: mances 
>>>Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am
>>>To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi George,
>>>
>>>
>>>I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
>>>Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are 
>>>parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital 
>>>da Costa Rodovalho.
>>>Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a line 
>>>that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.
>>>
>>>
>>>Manoel Cesar Furtado 
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Where else to look for Moniz Machado ancestors

[Maria Lima]

Margaret: thank you for taking to e to help me find these ancestors.  

I started questioning if these ancestors themselves made a mistake on their 
year of birth.  I've started looking before and after the years they gave as 
their birth year.  I signed up again for Ancestry a week ago and have been 
using it in addition to family search and the CCA.  

I'm still puzzled how you found the mother and 3 boys.  I didn't see the 
attachment but I, going to try to find it.  I spent pretty much all day 
yesterday trying to find and verify Manuel on the Sao Jose freguesia.  No luck. 
 Tried Sao Sebastao and Faja de Cima also but no luck.   It was hard to 
accomplish stuff around the house because I was so driven to find this 
information.  

I had already looked for the older brothers, Clemente and Domingo's in Sao 
Jose.  Clement's birth  was Feb 9, 1869 andDomingo's was  feb 8, 1874.   I 
think when I find one of them- I hope I'll find the others in the same 
location.  I was really surprised when you found their parents  married in the 
Sao Jose parish because I had  looked for the two older  boys' baptisms several 
times to no avail.  I didn't know about Maria , and now Manuel that you found 
traveling with Emilia.  

I thought the marriage record states that. Emilia's parents were from Sao Jorge 
island, they lived on Rua Cappas in the parish of Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada.  So 
I'm still going to look to see if Emilia went back to her mother's parish in St 
George, to baptize the children.  I'm reaching here,  but I dont know what 
explanation there could be for the missing baptismal records.

You have truly been an angel in helping me and imparting your knowledge.  Thank 
you.

P S. If it's convenient, could you send me the link for their sailing.  

It appears that the older son, Clemente, (if that's his real name, sailed 
before them based on his census Data.  I found him under Clement Marshall, b 
1869, married to Theodora (Dora) Ferreira and I was amazed. To learn his first 
marriage was to Annie Lindgren who died.  She was widowed from HER first 
husband and  His second wife,  Dora, had been married before to George Reynolds 
and HE died.  So I got a lot on Clem"s life.  I know about him from my mother 
in law.  She spoke tenderly of her Uncle Clem.   Have a good Sunday. 

Maria Elena

> On Jan 11, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Maria, I had looked through S. Jose and neighbouring towns for your Domingos 
> and it bothered me there was nothing to be found.  The light came on when 
> John Roias (JR) asked you if you had the right dates.  I then went back to 
> ancestry (have a temp membership) and tried to find Domingos unsuccessfully. 
> I then switched to his Mom, Emilia and bingo, there they were. That put me 
> back on track with Emilia's age bracket and when I went back to S. Jose there 
> it was, Jacinto and Emilia's marriage record.  You should now be able to find 
> Domingos and the other children. 
> 
> Passports would have been a big help but there are missing records for the 
> years 1883 to 1893.
> 
> I don't think you were doing anything wrong I think it is just a matter of 
> not giving up and look at it from different angles and start over.  Ancestry 
> has been a great help for me.  I recently found my GGF who I had no idea had 
> been in the USA at all.  I almost fell off my chair but these are the little 
> gold nuggets of research work.
> 
> According to the Ancestry's list of passengers the date is 1886, document 
> attached for your back up as well.  # 72, Emilia followed by the children.
> 
> You are welcome.
> 
> Margaret Vicente
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>> Margaret- you are amazing!!! I am overjoyed.  I can't thank you enough.  
>> This looks like the right couple.   It answers  a question I had:  on 
>> Emilia's death certificate it said her maiden name was Machado and I had 
>> wondered if her husband was Machado and she also was Machado-I  thought 
>> maybe they were cousins. Now I see jacinto's name was Moniz not Machado and 
>> that his bride,  Emilia was a Machado.  For some reason Domingo's always 
>> signed as Moniz Machado whereas his brother Clem changed his name to 
>> Marshall but used the middle initial M.  Their descendants use the name 
>> Machado.  They're going to be surprised when they learn the paternal name 
>> was Moniz.. 
>> 
>> I was just getting ready to turn in for tonight and then I  saw  yr email-  
>> I'm just so thrilled.  I had to wake up my husband to give him this news!!  
>> Kind of shout Hallelujah?!!!They ARE HIS gr gr grandparents.  I didn't 
>> find their names on ships manifest on Ancestry.   Did you find their 
>> immigration info on the  CCA passports?   When I looked it skipped the year 
>> 1885.  I'd like to see that and copy it.  I've looked for so long and here 
>> you found it.  (I feel sort of dumb that I didn't see it) but am so grateful 
>> to you.  
>> 
>>  Also, now yo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[George Pacheco]

I have a Braz do Rego Rodovalho in Ribeira Grande in Jan 1569


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:42 PM, George Pacheco wrote:

> Doug that is only what I have on my database, not what is in the whole
> Island..
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM,  wrote:
>
>> That's all? You mean they didn't live anywhere else? :-)
>>
>> I suppose the 1584 date is what you can find now in records. If that is
>> when they arrived, then I suppose they did come over from Terceira, because
>> it's at least another 100 years older on Terceira.
>>
>> I have a line from Pico and one from Terceira, but haven't yet hooked
>> them up to the tronco.
>>
>> Thanks for the info, Jorge.
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>> 916-550-1618
>> www.dholmes.com
>>
>>
>>   Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel
>> From: George Pacheco 
>> Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 10:03 am
>> To: Azores-Gen 
>>
>> The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo
>> Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz,
>> Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada,
>> São Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila
>> Franca, the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Manoel,
>>>
>>> From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao
>>> Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.
>>>
>>> Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo
>>> Rodrigues?
>>>
>>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>>> Sacramento, California
>>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>>> 916-550-1618
>>> www.dholmes.com
>>>
>>>
>>>   Original Message 
>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO
>>> From: mances 
>>> Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am
>>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
>>> Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They
>>> are parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with
>>> Vital da Costa Rodovalho.
>>> Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
>>> line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.
>>>
>>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[George Pacheco]

Doug that is only what I have on my database, not what is in the whole
Island..


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM,  wrote:

> That's all? You mean they didn't live anywhere else? :-)
>
> I suppose the 1584 date is what you can find now in records. If that is
> when they arrived, then I suppose they did come over from Terceira, because
> it's at least another 100 years older on Terceira.
>
> I have a line from Pico and one from Terceira, but haven't yet hooked them
> up to the tronco.
>
> Thanks for the info, Jorge.
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel
> From: George Pacheco 
> Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 10:03 am
> To: Azores-Gen 
>
> The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo
> Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz,
> Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada,
> São Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila
> Franca, the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas.
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Hi Manoel,
>>
>> From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao
>> Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.
>>
>> Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo
>> Rodrigues?
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>> 916-550-1618
>> www.dholmes.com
>>
>>
>>   Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO
>> From: mances 
>> Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
>> Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They
>> are parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with
>> Vital da Costa Rodovalho.
>> Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
>> line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.
>>
>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Fialho - Obitos, Flamengos, Faial

[Lee]

Thanks Rick!  
 

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:20:03 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:

> *The date is 29 Dec 1747 *
>
>  
>
> *He was 65 years old*
>
>  
>
> *Husband of Maria Perreira*
>
>  
>
> *It looks like he was using some earlier spelling of words/numbers and 
> mixing styles of writing letters. *
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Spring, TX*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Lee
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:54 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Fialho - Obitos, Flamengos, Faial
>
>  
>
> This is the obitos of Antonio Fialho (top of right page)
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1723-1759/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1723-1759_item1/P88.html
>
>  
>
> I read that he is 75 years of age, the widower of Maria Pereira
>
>  
>
> I am reading the date as December 1740?  or am I way off on the year??  (I 
> don't think I have that correct).
>
>  
>
> Thanks!
>
>  
>
> Lee Estep, Oak Hill, WV
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>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenço Vaz Franco & Maria de Macedo

[mnk]

Hi Rodney,
I think this might not have been her first marriage after all.  To me it 
looks like it says Maria was the Va (abbreviation for widow)of Joao 
Gonsalves Lucas (?)
MNK
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 4:00:53 PM UTC-6, Rodney Figueiredo wrote:

> I finally found her first marriage record, but it's a bit damaged.  At the 
> bottom of the page (right side), is Maria Cardoso de Macedo's name and then 
> the name of her father.  I think it says João Gonçalves Lucas.  I was 
> hoping to get a second opinion.  João Nicolas' information is almost all 
> gone.  Any help would be appreciated.  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-C-1665-1682/TER-AH-SE-C-1665-1682_item1/P157.html
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 3:10:11 PM UTC-5, Rodney Figueiredo wrote:
>>
>> I recently discovered more of my Azorean ancestors going back to the 
>> 1680s in Angra do Heroísmo.  However, I'm having trouble deciphering the 
>> information next to my 8th great-grandmother's name.  Can anyone make it 
>> out?  The record is on the following page, bottom right.  
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-C-1681-1714/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-C-1681-1714_item1/P16.html
>>
>> Lourenço Franco (also known as Lourenço Vaz Franco) was a ship captain 
>> and there are actually some records of him being part of a shipwreck off 
>> the coast of Brazil in 1693.  However, what I'm intrigued about on this 
>> record is the information about his wife Maria de Macedo.  It says that he 
>> married Maria de Macedo, and then there's a word that follows that I can't 
>> make out.  It looks like "uececca" which means nothing to me.  I would 
>> appreciate anyone's help if they can decipher it.  
>>
>> Thanks. 
>>
>> Rodney
>>
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Fialho - Obitos, Flamengos, Faial

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The date is 29 Dec 1747 

 

He was 65 years old

 

Husband of Maria Perreira

 

It looks like he was using some earlier spelling of words/numbers and mixing
styles of writing letters. 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lee
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:54 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Fialho - Obitos, Flamengos, Faial

 

This is the obitos of Antonio Fialho (top of right page)

 

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1723
-1759/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1723-1759_item1/P88.html

 

I read that he is 75 years of age, the widower of Maria Pereira

 

I am reading the date as December 1740?  or am I way off on the year??  (I
don't think I have that correct).

 

Thanks!

 

Lee Estep, Oak Hill, WV

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Fialho - Obitos, Flamengos, Faial

[Lee]

This is the obitos of Antonio Fialho (top of right page)
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1723-1759/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1723-1759_item1/P88.html
 
I read that he is 75 years of age, the widower of Maria Pereira
 
I am reading the date as December 1740?  or am I way off on the year??  (I 
don't think I have that correct).
 
Thanks!
 
Lee Estep, Oak Hill, WV
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] USA Online Records

[Sam Koester]

I should have remember this.  Thanks for the clarification.  Sam in Maz


>
> From: Eileen Leite 
>To: azores@googlegroups.com 
>
>In some fortunate baptism entries there is a note in the margin that gives the 
>marriage info. As I understand it, sometimes contact was made with the church 
>of baptism when a person got married, to confirm they were indeed baptized in 
>the church and to assure they were not married before. I have seen such 
>entries in Irish-American parishes.  Or the entry might be made later, I don’t 
>know for what purpose. The word “Casou” is your tip! 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help please - Flamengos, Faial

[Pam Santos]

Yeah I only know Spanish, and to me its is very similar (writing not
speaking)  I had gone thru  Spanish/Latin Church records for years before
attempting to look at the Portuguese records. Stupid on my part, I could of
been done with this all years ago!! (I started back in 1996) But I had it
in my mind that it was going to be extremely hard to read the Portuguese
records. Which it is not, the more you read the easier it becomes.


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Joao S. Lopes wrote:

> Francisco da Costa filho de pay incognito e Hyeronima Sylv.ra
> Roza Francisca filha de Pedro Dutra e Agada Pereira.
>
>
>   Em Domingo, 12 de Janeiro de 2014 2:50, Lee 
> escreveu:
>  Thanks, Cheri...I think what has helped is that I have several friends
> who are from Mexico and I took the task to do research on their
> familiesthat's when I realized that Spanish and Portuguese are similar
> to each other (but also vastly different)..
>
> It has been fun doing this research for my cousins Corey  De Mello and
> Nadine Hill.
>
> Lee
>
> On Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:44:15 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Groom = Francisco da Costa.  Looks like "do Costa" in the document and "da
> Costa" in the margin.
>
> Groom's parents correct.  Bride's parents correct.  After Pedro Dutra's
> name it says "ja defuncto" which means he was deceased at the time of this
> marriage.
>
> Date: 28 April 1748.  He wrote on the top line "1000 700 30 and 8" and the
> next line he wrote "digo" (oops - or I meant to say) 40 and 8.  I checked
> the other 4 records on that link and it's clearest on the lower right.
>
> You're really getting the hang of picking these records apart!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help please - Flamengos, Faial

[Joao S. Lopes]

Francisco da Costa filho de pay incognito e Hyeronima Sylv.ra
Roza Francisca filha de Pedro Dutra e Agada Pereira.




Em Domingo, 12 de Janeiro de 2014 2:50, Lee  escreveu:
 
Thanks, Cheri...I think what has helped is that I have several friends who are 
from Mexico and I took the task to do research on their familiesthat's when 
I realized that Spanish and Portuguese are similar to each other (but also 
vastly different)..
 
It has been fun doing this research for my cousins Corey  De Mello and Nadine 
Hill.
 
Lee

On Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:44:15 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
Groom = Francisco da Costa.  Looks like "do Costa" in the document and "da 
Costa" in the margin.
>
>Groom's parents correct.  Bride's parents correct.  After Pedro Dutra's name 
>it says "ja defuncto" which means he was deceased at the time of this marriage.
>
>Date: 28 April 1748.  He wrote on the top line "1000 700 30 and 8" and the 
>next line he wrote "digo" (oops - or I meant to say) 40 and 8.  I checked the 
>other 4 records on that link and it's clearest on the lower right.
>
>You're really getting the hang of picking these records apart!
>
>
>Cheri Mello
>Listowner, Azores-Gen
>Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
>Achada 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Question

[lisahbskt]

Happy New Year everyone!

Before FTDNA changed the layout, I used to be able to sort results by "in 
Common with" and I do not seem to be able to find that now.

I have a match from my grandmother that shows a 2nd to 4th cousin relationship 
and would like to see who else matches him.

Thanks and I am looking forward to meeting all of you who will be attending the 
Azores Genealogy Conference in Salt Lake City this April!

Lisa Caetano Harley
Southern Cal

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[pico]

That's all? You mean they didn't live anywhere else? :-)I suppose the 1584 date is what you can find now in records. If that is when they arrived, then I suppose they did come over from Terceira, because it's at least another 100 years older on Terceira.I have a line from Pico and one from Terceira, but haven't yet hooked them up to the tronco.Thanks for the info, Jorge.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel
From: George Pacheco 
Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 10:03 am
To: Azores-Gen 

The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz, Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada, São Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila Franca, the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM,  wrote: Hi Manoel,From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira. Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo Rodrigues?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com    Original Message  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO From: mances  Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am To: azores@googlegroups.com  Hi George,I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital da Costa Rodovalho. Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.Manoel Cesar Furtado --  





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[George Pacheco]

The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo
Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz,
Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada,
São Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila
Franca, the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM,  wrote:

> Hi Manoel,
>
> From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao
> Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.
>
> Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo
> Rodrigues?
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO
> From: mances 
> Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
> Hi George,
>
> I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
> Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are
> parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital
> da Costa Rodovalho.
> Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
> line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.
>
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO

[George Pacheco]

Mi Manoel,

The Morenno's in Santo Antonio are Father Jose Viveiros family, my Moreno
in Bretanha.

I Have Manuel Moreno who maried Maria Cabral March 1703 son of Antonio
Moreno and Maria Soares unfortunately the Records don't go back to prove
it, I believe it to be the same family.
 Maria Cabral the daughter of Manuel Afonso and of Barbara Cabral


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM, mances  wrote:

> Hi George,
>
> I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
> Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are
> parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital
> da Costa Rodovalho.
> Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
> line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.
>
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>
> Em domingo, 12 de janeiro de 2014 12h00min02s UTC-2, Moreno22 escreveu:
>>
>> I have Moreno in Bretanha and Santo Antonio.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a George/Jorge Moreno who married Paula de Resendes, their
>>> daughter Barbara de Resendes married in Vila Franco do Campo in 1711
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
>>> eliseu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Moreno stuff:



 -  As far as we know, MORENO comes from a nickname of an Old
 Spanish Family. The word for dark skinned people was (back then) PARDO
 (man) or PARDA (woman).

 -  I have a direct ancestor named MORENO.



 J eliseu



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[pico]

Hi Manoel,From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo Rodrigues?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO
From: mances 
Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Hi George,I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital da Costa Rodovalho.Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.Manoel Cesar Furtado  





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO

[mances]

Hi George,

I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are 
parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital 
da Costa Rodovalho.
Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a line 
that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em domingo, 12 de janeiro de 2014 12h00min02s UTC-2, Moreno22 escreveu:
>
> I have Moreno in Bretanha and Santo Antonio.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Pam Santos 
> > wrote:
>
>> I have a George/Jorge Moreno who married Paula de Resendes, their 
>> daughter Barbara de Resendes married in Vila Franco do Campo in 1711
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
>> eliseu...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Moreno stuff:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -  As far as we know, MORENO comes from a nickname of an Old 
>>> Spanish Family. The word for dark skinned people was (back then) PARDO 
>>> (man) or PARDA (woman).
>>>
>>> -  I have a direct ancestor named MORENO. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> J eliseu
>>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] USA Online Records

[Eileen Leite]

In some fortunate baptism entries there is a note in the margin that gives
the marriage info. As I understand it, sometimes contact was made with the
church of baptism when a person got married, to confirm they were indeed
baptized in the church and to assure they were not married before. I have
seen such entries in Irish-American parishes.  Or the entry might be made
later, I don't know for what purpose. The word "Casou" is your tip! 

 

I have one baptism record that lists his two wives and lots of relevant
dates in the margin! 

 

By the way, this was the way I identified my husband's great-grandmother's
birth record. I was uncertain on her parents' names, she was born a couple
of years earlier than her obit would have us believe, and it turned out she
was a Maria  "Second of that name".  Oy.  It was only the margin note that
told me it was her.  Oh happy day that was! 

 

Here is the note: (as best as I could transcribe it, those notes are so
scrawled!): "Casou com Jose Pedro Leite nem Igrejia parochial de freguesia
Ponta Garca desta concelho, 17 de Marco de 1897.  Avanto (?) de? 11 de
Octobre 1982." (Question marks mine, impossible to make out the writing. ) I
don't understand the last part, or why someone would want that info in 1982.
She died in 1941.

 

As hard as they can be to decipher, you have to look carefully at those
baptism margin notes! They can give marriage and death dates. 

 

Eileen Leite 

 

From: Sam Koester [mailto:aportu...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 10:45 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] USA Online Records

 

Richardo,  There are many Manuel Rochas married in Fall River in 1910.  Can
you give us more information to go on.  Also, how can a birth record tell
when/where someone was married?  Sam in Maz

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO

[George Pacheco]

I have Moreno in Bretanha and Santo Antonio.


On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> I have a George/Jorge Moreno who married Paula de Resendes, their daughter
> Barbara de Resendes married in Vila Franco do Campo in 1711
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
> eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Moreno stuff:
>>
>>
>>
>> -  As far as we know, MORENO comes from a nickname of an Old
>> Spanish Family. The word for dark skinned people was (back then) PARDO
>> (man) or PARDA (woman).
>>
>> -  I have a direct ancestor named MORENO.
>>
>>
>>
>> J eliseu
>>
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