[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with baptism translation

2015-04-02 Thread linda
If I read this correctly, then:

Maria-- filha de Manoel furtado Solteiro, filho de domingos furtado 
Rezende, ja defunto, ed de Sua mulher Maria Cabral, aqual menino des sua 
may. E fo. de ditto Manoel furtado [can't really get this section]... e de 
Francisca de Simas [nossa ?], Solteira, filha familias de Manoel Furtado 
Souza, e de Sua mulher Izabel de Simas ...

Approximately:

Manoel Furtado, unmarried, the son of Domingos Furtado Rezende, deceased, 
and his wife Maria Cabral, that boy [... I think this section means that 
Manoel had attained his majority]  and the son of said Manoel Furtado.. and 
of Francis de Simas, unmarried, [and] not yet of age daughter of Manoel 
Furtado Souza and his wife Izabel de Simas

I hope others will correct my errors.



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> I am having some trouble with this document, top left - Maria - daughter 
> of Manuel Furtado...
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> I see many more names after that - and not sure where the mother is listed 
> - maybe Francisca something?  And who are all the names in between - 
> parents of Manuel Furtado?
>
> Thanks for any help - I appreciate it!
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1/P107.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about preferred method for entering last names in Ancestry.com or other databases

2015-04-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Mary,
I do method 1 unless de/da/do is part of their legal name.

For Maria do Rosario Silva, I would have her under Silva. But for others,
it depends. My Mello Barbosa line is under M because when I traced him he
was a Mello for a long time before tacking on Barbosa to distinguish
himself from his uncle, cousin, and nephew, all with the exact same name.
Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] help with baptism translation

2015-04-02 Thread familyfrancisphotos
I am having some trouble with this document, top left - Maria - daughter of 
Manuel Furtado...

I see many more names after that - and not sure where the mother is listed 
- maybe Francisca something?  And who are all the names in between - 
parents of Manuel Furtado?

Thanks for any help - I appreciate it!

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1/P107.html




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual: Judas

2015-04-02 Thread Andrew Rapoza
I've researched through lots and lots of Azorean records over the years, 
but don't remember seeing this boy's name used in this overwhelmingly 
Catholic archipelago: Judas. Just thought it was interesting and worth 
sharing:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1563-1629/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1563-1629_item1/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1563-1629_JPG/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1563-1629_0020.jpg

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Question about preferred method for entering last names in Ancestry.com or other databases

2015-04-02 Thread Mary Pimentel Wheeler
I have have lots of ancestors with do/da/de in their names (as do we 
all...).  I have a question about the preferred method of entering their 
names in a database.  

1) I've been putting the do/da/de in the first/middle name field - 
following the middle name, so it doesn't alphabetize by the do's and 
da's.Should I be doing that, or just leaving the do/da/de out 
completely?

2) Also, I have some with compound names.  Let's use "Maria do Rosario da 
Silva" as an example.Would I enter her last name as "Rosario da Silva", 
or "Rosario Silva" or just "Silva" (and leave Rosario as her middle name)?  

Any advice on the preferred method would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Mary

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation

2015-04-02 Thread brownat68
Thank you everyone. This is fantastic. You helped me find the cousin of my 
last grandmother Luzia de Teves.

Todd

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> Hello
>
> Can the last record on the right at this link be translated?
>
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P25.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Most efficient way of researching ancestors?

2015-04-02 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy
Elaine;  I like that idea.  Thanks, Sam






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Sam,




I copy the site address of the record and send it to myself in an email with 
their name in the Subject area and have a folder named Famiy-TBD. If I find 
they connect, I then put them in my Tree and I always put the site address in 
my Notes (I am using FTM 16) for future reference.




"E" 



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Sam,


I guess you could tie this sub-families together and have them "floating" in 
your database.  Then when you make the connection, you only have a few mouse 
clicks to tie them in.  Then your tree will really sprout.

Maybe others have different ideas.

Cheri





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I’m not sure if I can even adequately explain my question but; I’ll try.  When 
trying to locate an ancestor’s birth, death, marriage document I constantly 
come across other documents that seem highly likely to be in my line but; for 
which I do not yet have a connection.  Once you save these documents, how do 
you most efficiently organized them for future reference in trying to place 
them in your tree?




Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.  Sam in Maz






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Most efficient way of researching ancestors?

2015-04-02 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy
Cheri;  I’m trying to ‘flesh out’ my ancestors siblings families to try to make 
connections with other on ‘the list’ and I’m finding it very frustrating to be 
looking for one person and see all these other ‘most likely’ connections and 
not know what to do with them to keep them organized.  I save each of the 
documents I find on my ancestors and load them into my FTM program.  I guess I 
need to make some folders and sub-folders on my desktop and put the documents 
into them. Labeling each folder by extended family name, for future use.  It’s 
all s  time consuming.


Thanks and take care, Sam in Maz






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Sam,


I guess you could tie this sub-families together and have them "floating" in 
your database.  Then when you make the connection, you only have a few mouse 
clicks to tie them in.  Then your tree will really sprout.

Maybe others have different ideas.

Cheri



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I’m not sure if I can even adequately explain my question but; I’ll try.  When 
trying to locate an ancestor’s birth, death, marriage document I constantly 
come across other documents that seem highly likely to be in my line but; for 
which I do not yet have a connection.  Once you save these documents, how do 
you most efficiently organized them for future reference in trying to place 
them in your tree?




Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.  Sam in Maz






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Most efficient way of researching ancestors?

2015-04-02 Thread "E" Sharp
Sam,

I copy the site address of the record and send it to myself in an email
with their name in the Subject area and have a folder named Famiy-TBD. If I
find they connect, I then put them in my Tree and I always put the site
address in my Notes (I am using FTM 16) for future reference.

"E"

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Sam,
>
> I guess you could tie this sub-families together and have them "floating"
> in your database.  Then when you make the connection, you only have a few
> mouse clicks to tie them in.  Then your tree will really sprout.
>
> Maybe others have different ideas.
>
> Cheri
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>  I’m not sure if I can even adequately explain my question but; I’ll
>> try.  When trying to locate an ancestor’s birth, death, marriage document I
>> constantly come across other documents that seem highly likely to be in my
>> line but; for which I do not yet have a connection.  Once you save these
>> documents, how do you most efficiently organized them for future reference
>> in trying to place them in your tree?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.  Sam in Maz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Most efficient way of researching ancestors?

2015-04-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Sam,

I guess you could tie this sub-families together and have them "floating"
in your database.  Then when you make the connection, you only have a few
mouse clicks to tie them in.  Then your tree will really sprout.

Maybe others have different ideas.

Cheri

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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  I’m not sure if I can even adequately explain my question but; I’ll
> try.  When trying to locate an ancestor’s birth, death, marriage document I
> constantly come across other documents that seem highly likely to be in my
> line but; for which I do not yet have a connection.  Once you save these
> documents, how do you most efficiently organized them for future reference
> in trying to place them in your tree?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.  Sam in Maz
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Most efficient way of researching ancestors?

2015-04-02 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy
I’m not sure if I can even adequately explain my question but; I’ll try.  When 
trying to locate an ancestor’s birth, death, marriage document I constantly 
come across other documents that seem highly likely to be in my line but; for 
which I do not yet have a connection.  Once you save these documents, how do 
you most efficiently organized them for future reference in trying to place 
them in your tree?


Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.  Sam in Maz






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

2015-04-02 Thread mances
George,

I found the marriage in Ribeira Seca. It's Clara Roiz.

left page, 4th record:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P41.html

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 2 de abril de 2015 07:23:00 UTC-3, Moreno22 escreveu:
>
> Clara Luiz if you look at the R in Ribeira is much different,  to me it is 
> an L see attachment with just the record
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, mances > 
> wrote:
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>> ... son of Pedro Gonçalves and his wife Clara Roiz.
>>
>> Manoel
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>> Em quarta-feira, 1 de abril de 2015 21:12:05 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
>>>
>>> .The date is as entered by Rickson of Pedro Goncalves and his wife 
>>> (name is a guess of my part but it may be Maria Carvalho) residing in Sao 
>>> Pedro, Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande.with Maria de Teves daughter of Joao de 
>>> Teves and his wife Maria Ferreira.
>>>
>>> Margaret Vicente
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>> rfrancis...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
 *This is real difficult. I can make out some of it. The date is 5 Dec 
 1641. The 4th line down it starts with Manuel Afonso son of Joao …….? and 
 his wife ?  with Maria Teves? Daughter of Joao de Teves? And ???*

  

 *The writing is very faint making it difficult. Perhaps someone else 
 can add to it.*

  

 *Rick*

  

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*

  

  

 *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *brownat68
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 *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

  

 Hello

  

 Can the last record on the right at this link be translated?

  

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P25.html

  

 Thanks

  

 Todd

  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

2015-04-02 Thread George Pacheco
Clara Luiz if you look at the R in Ribeira is much different,  to me it is
an L see attachment with just the record

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, mances  wrote:

> ... son of Pedro Gonçalves and his wife Clara Roiz.
>
> Manoel
>
> Em quarta-feira, 1 de abril de 2015 21:12:05 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
>>
>> .The date is as entered by Rickson of Pedro Goncalves and his wife
>> (name is a guess of my part but it may be Maria Carvalho) residing in Sao
>> Pedro, Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande.with Maria de Teves daughter of Joao de
>> Teves and his wife Maria Ferreira.
>>
>> Margaret Vicente
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
>> rfrancis...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> *This is real difficult. I can make out some of it. The date is 5 Dec
>>> 1641. The 4th line down it starts with Manuel Afonso son of Joao …….? and
>>> his wife ?  with Maria Teves? Daughter of Joao de Teves? And ???*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *The writing is very faint making it difficult. Perhaps someone else can
>>> add to it.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rick*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>
>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *brownat68
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:02 PM
>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can the last record on the right at this link be translated?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>>> PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P25.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
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