[AZORES-Genealogy] Update from the CCA site

[Marie]

I just  received an e-mail from the CCA site.  It is a recognition of the 
problems.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

[Dave Worman]

Linda,
I am just happy that you were looking!
Dave

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:18 PM, linda  wrote:

> DOH!  I knew that!
>
> I should have drawn a timeline to remind myself of significant
> events/dates.
>
> I wonder if it would be productive to scroll through the WWI draft
> registrations before and after Herculano Lopes's registration.  My Great
> Grandfather's WWI registration is numerically filed in near those of other
> Portuguese fellows (and right before or after one of his brothers, IIRC),
> and I imagine that they might have showed up to the registration as a
> group.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the reply, Dave, and sorry for the red-herring.
>
> best,
>
> Linda
>
> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 6:20:16 PM UTC-7, dvc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Linda,
>> Thank you for looking.  We think Joe Cotta was in California by 1918
>> since his 2nd daughter was born in Calif. in 1910.
>> But you never know where a lead will come from.
>> Dave
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:16 PM, linda  wrote:
>>
>>> I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB
>>>
>>>
>>> I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one of the
>>> records that has already been posted in the thread.
>>>
>>>
>>> L.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

[linda]

DOH!  I knew that!  

I should have drawn a timeline to remind myself of significant 
events/dates.  

I wonder if it would be productive to scroll through the WWI draft 
registrations before and after Herculano Lopes's registration.  My Great 
Grandfather's WWI registration is numerically filed in near those of other 
Portuguese fellows (and right before or after one of his brothers, IIRC), 
and I imagine that they might have showed up to the registration as a 
group. 

Anyway, thanks for the reply, Dave, and sorry for the red-herring. 

best,

Linda

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 6:20:16 PM UTC-7, dvc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Linda,
> Thank you for looking.  We think Joe Cotta was in California by 1918 since 
> his 2nd daughter was born in Calif. in 1910.
> But you never know where a lead will come from.
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:16 PM, linda 
> > wrote:
>
>> I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:
>>
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB
>>
>>
>> I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one of the 
>> records that has already been posted in the thread.
>>
>>
>> L.
>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[Manita M]

Check this out.

The father died in 1904 according to this link.

http://olharpovoacense.blogspot.ca/2013/11/tracos-da-nossa-historia-jacinto-manuel.html?m=1
On Oct 12, 2015 2:03 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" 
wrote:

> Just foud out that he went also by the name Alberto Porfírio de Araújo.
> His parents were Jacinto Manuel de Arruda (Presidente da Câmara of
> Povoação) Povoação Mayor, married to Ana Ermelinda Botelho.
>
> You have it all in my tree J.
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
> de *Manita M
> *Enviada:* 12 de outubro de 2015 17:51
> *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda -
> Povoacao, São Miguel
>
>
>
> Thank you primo :)
>
> Do you have the names of his parents,  wife and children by chance?
>
> Once I'm able to access CCA,  I will look for the source documents.
>
> No marriage information?  Private chapel?  I've never heard of that.
> Hm.  I wonder why Lagoa?  Maybe his wife was from there?
>
> I'd be interested to know if anyone in this group is a descendant of this
> man.
>
> Thank you!
>
> On Oct 12, 2015 1:43 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" 
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Alberto was:
>
> - born in 21.11.1852, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores
>
> - died in 1.6.1905, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores
>
>
>
> I think they have married in a private chapel in the House of Nossa
> Senhora do Cabo… suspect the marriage is in Lagoa, Sta. Cruz… but never
> checked!
>
>
>
> eliseu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
> de *Manita M
> *Enviada:* 12 de outubro de 2015 17:07
> *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda -
> Povoacao, São Miguel
>
>
>
> I'll take any information on him.
>
> Ideally, his birth, marriage and death records.
>
> On Oct 12, 2015 12:34 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" <
> eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Manita!
> What would you need on Alberto Porfírio Botelho Arruda?
> May be I can help
> eliseu
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de
> manita.morgado
> Enviada: 12 de outubro de 2015 15:27
> Para: Azores Genealogy 
> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao,
> São Miguel
>
> Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:
>
> Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of
> Povoacao and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily.
>
> Could you please look in your trees for:
>
> *** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***
>
> He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He
> was definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I
> saw his tombstone a few weeks ago when I was there.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

[Dave Worman]

Linda,
Thank you for looking.  We think Joe Cotta was in California by 1918 since
his 2nd daughter was born in Calif. in 1910.
But you never know where a lead will come from.
Dave

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:16 PM, linda  wrote:

> I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB
>
>
> I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one of the
> records that has already been posted in the thread.
>
>
> L.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

Caton is likely Caetano.
JMR
 


 On Monday, October 12, 2015 5:54 PM, John Vasconcelos  
wrote:
   

 I read the name as Joseph Caton

John Vasconcelos

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:16 AM, linda  wrote:

I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB


I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one of the 
records that has already been posted in the thread.


L.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

[linda]

Yes, or "Cateu" or "Coter".  No argument there.  It may well not be his 
record, but it was the only WWI registration record I found that came close 
when I searched using the Familysearch.org site.  

His birth year, wife's name and general location are right.  If the date of 
birth and/or address can be confirmed, it would strengthen the case for it 
being his record.  

best,

Linda

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 2:54:03 PM UTC-7, John Vasconcelos wrote:
>
>
>
> *I read the name as Joseph Caton*
>
> *John Vasconcelos*
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:16 AM, linda 
> > wrote:
>
>> I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:
>>
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB
>>
>>
>> I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one of the 
>> records that has already been posted in the thread.
>>
>>
>> L.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

[John Vasconcelos]

*I read the name as Joseph Caton*

*John Vasconcelos*

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:16 AM, linda  wrote:

> I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB
>
>
> I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one of the
> records that has already been posted in the thread.
>
>
> L.
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[Manita M]

Excellent.

Thank you!
On Oct 12, 2015 2:03 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" 
wrote:

> Just foud out that he went also by the name Alberto Porfírio de Araújo.
> His parents were Jacinto Manuel de Arruda (Presidente da Câmara of
> Povoação) Povoação Mayor, married to Ana Ermelinda Botelho.
>
> You have it all in my tree J.
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
> de *Manita M
> *Enviada:* 12 de outubro de 2015 17:51
> *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda -
> Povoacao, São Miguel
>
>
>
> Thank you primo :)
>
> Do you have the names of his parents,  wife and children by chance?
>
> Once I'm able to access CCA,  I will look for the source documents.
>
> No marriage information?  Private chapel?  I've never heard of that.
> Hm.  I wonder why Lagoa?  Maybe his wife was from there?
>
> I'd be interested to know if anyone in this group is a descendant of this
> man.
>
> Thank you!
>
> On Oct 12, 2015 1:43 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" 
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Alberto was:
>
> - born in 21.11.1852, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores
>
> - died in 1.6.1905, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores
>
>
>
> I think they have married in a private chapel in the House of Nossa
> Senhora do Cabo… suspect the marriage is in Lagoa, Sta. Cruz… but never
> checked!
>
>
>
> eliseu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
> de *Manita M
> *Enviada:* 12 de outubro de 2015 17:07
> *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda -
> Povoacao, São Miguel
>
>
>
> I'll take any information on him.
>
> Ideally, his birth, marriage and death records.
>
> On Oct 12, 2015 12:34 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" <
> eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Manita!
> What would you need on Alberto Porfírio Botelho Arruda?
> May be I can help
> eliseu
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de
> manita.morgado
> Enviada: 12 de outubro de 2015 15:27
> Para: Azores Genealogy 
> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao,
> São Miguel
>
> Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:
>
> Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of
> Povoacao and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily.
>
> Could you please look in your trees for:
>
> *** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***
>
> He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He
> was definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I
> saw his tombstone a few weeks ago when I was there.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Could the CCA records be down??

[Mary Pimentel Wheeler]

I emailed them and got the following reply:

We inform that  “Inventário Genealógico” and “Biblioteca Digital” of portal 
Cultura Açores  are temporarily unavailable.

We’re doing our best to solve the problem as soon as possible.

Please accept our apologizes for the inconvenience.

Best regards.

 

*Filomena Maria da Silva Barcelos*

(diretora do Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores)

 

SECRETARIA REGIONAL DA EDUCAÇÃO  E CULTURA

DIREÇÃO REGIONAL DA CULTURA

Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores

Palacete Silveira e Paulo - Rua da Conceição

9700-054 Angra do Heroísmo - Terceira - Açores

(  +351 295 403000 / 7+351 295 403001

[image: Assinatura correio eletrónico] 


*http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ 
*

9:15 AM (2 hours ago)


 


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Just foud out that he went also by the name Alberto Porfírio de Araújo. His 
parents were Jacinto Manuel de Arruda (Presidente da Câmara of Povoação) 
Povoação Mayor, married to Ana Ermelinda Botelho.

You have it all in my tree :).

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Manita M
Enviada: 12 de outubro de 2015 17:51
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São 
Miguel

 

Thank you primo :) 

Do you have the names of his parents,  wife and children by chance? 

Once I'm able to access CCA,  I will look for the source documents. 

No marriage information?  Private chapel?  I've never heard of that. Hm.  I 
wonder why Lagoa?  Maybe his wife was from there? 

I'd be interested to know if anyone in this group is a descendant of this man. 

Thank you! 

On Oct 12, 2015 1:43 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" mailto:eliseuman...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi!

Alberto was:

- born in 21.11.1852, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores

- died in 1.6.1905, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores

 

I think they have married in a private chapel in the House of Nossa Senhora do 
Cabo… suspect the marriage is in Lagoa, Sta. Cruz… but never checked!

 

eliseu

 

 

 

 

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Enviada: 12 de outubro de 2015 17:07
Para: azores@googlegroups.com  
Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São 
Miguel

 

I'll take any information on him. 

Ideally, his birth, marriage and death records.

On Oct 12, 2015 12:34 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" mailto:eliseuman...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Manita!
What would you need on Alberto Porfírio Botelho Arruda?
May be I can help
eliseu

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Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São 
Miguel

Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:

Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of Povoacao 
and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily.

Could you please look in your trees for:

*** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***

He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He was 
definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I saw his 
tombstone a few weeks ago when I was there.

Thank you in advance for your help.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[Manita M]

Thank you primo :)

Do you have the names of his parents,  wife and children by chance?

Once I'm able to access CCA,  I will look for the source documents.

No marriage information?  Private chapel?  I've never heard of that.
Hm.  I wonder why Lagoa?  Maybe his wife was from there?

I'd be interested to know if anyone in this group is a descendant of this
man.

Thank you!
On Oct 12, 2015 1:43 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Alberto was:
>
> - born in 21.11.1852, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores
>
> - died in 1.6.1905, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores
>
>
>
> I think they have married in a private chapel in the House of Nossa
> Senhora do Cabo… suspect the marriage is in Lagoa, Sta. Cruz… but never
> checked!
>
>
>
> eliseu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
> de *Manita M
> *Enviada:* 12 de outubro de 2015 17:07
> *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda -
> Povoacao, São Miguel
>
>
>
> I'll take any information on him.
>
> Ideally, his birth, marriage and death records.
>
> On Oct 12, 2015 12:34 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" <
> eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Manita!
> What would you need on Alberto Porfírio Botelho Arruda?
> May be I can help
> eliseu
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de
> manita.morgado
> Enviada: 12 de outubro de 2015 15:27
> Para: Azores Genealogy 
> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao,
> São Miguel
>
> Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:
>
> Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of
> Povoacao and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily.
>
> Could you please look in your trees for:
>
> *** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***
>
> He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He
> was definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I
> saw his tombstone a few weeks ago when I was there.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi!

Alberto was:

- born in 21.11.1852, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores

- died in 1.6.1905, Matriz, Povoação, S. Miguel, Açores

 

I think they have married in a private chapel in the House of Nossa Senhora do 
Cabo… suspect the marriage is in Lagoa, Sta. Cruz… but never checked!

 

eliseu

 

 

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Manita M
Enviada: 12 de outubro de 2015 17:07
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São 
Miguel

 

I'll take any information on him. 

Ideally, his birth, marriage and death records.

On Oct 12, 2015 12:34 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" mailto:eliseuman...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Manita!
What would you need on Alberto Porfírio Botelho Arruda?
May be I can help
eliseu

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Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São 
Miguel

Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:

Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of Povoacao 
and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily.

Could you please look in your trees for:

*** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***

He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He was 
definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I saw his 
tombstone a few weeks ago when I was there.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

[linda]

I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB


I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one of the 
records that has already been posted in the thread.


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[Manita M]

I'll take any information on him.

Ideally, his birth, marriage and death records.
On Oct 12, 2015 12:34 PM, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" 
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> Hi Manita!
> What would you need on Alberto Porfírio Botelho Arruda?
> May be I can help
> eliseu
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de
> manita.morgado
> Enviada: 12 de outubro de 2015 15:27
> Para: Azores Genealogy 
> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao,
> São Miguel
>
> Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:
>
> Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of
> Povoacao and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily.
>
> Could you please look in your trees for:
>
> *** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***
>
> He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He
> was definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I
> saw his tombstone a few weeks ago when I was there.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi Manita!
What would you need on Alberto Porfírio Botelho Arruda?
May be I can help
eliseu

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Miguel

Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:

Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of Povoacao 
and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily. 

Could you please look in your trees for:

*** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***

He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He was 
definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I saw his 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Well, they answered and now we know that they are aware of the problem and
are working to fix it! That's good news and we just have to be patient and
wait it out! Thanks for sharing, Cheri!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> From the CCA, to me, Cheri:
>
>
> We inform that  “Inventário Genealógico” and “Biblioteca Digital” of
> portal Cultura Açores  are temporarily unavailable.
>
> We’re doing our best to solve the problem as soon as possible.
>
> Please accept our apologizes for the inconvenience.
>
> Best regards.
>
>
>
> *Filomena Maria da Silva Barcelos*
> (diretora do Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores)
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:44 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Angela!!
>>
>> mas
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ângela Loura 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I called them today and talked to Rui Marques. He told me that they were
>>> aware of the situation and were fixing it. I asked him if they were
>>> transffering the records to the arquivos.azores.gov.pt and he told me
>>> that everything remained the same, so this is just a server error and we'll
>>> have to wait for the CCA to be functional.
>>>
>>> 2015-10-12 15:59 GMT+01:00 João Ventura :
>>>
 Hi everyone..

 I've been away for a few months... I haven't been doing much research
 on the Azorean side lately, so I dropped out for a while..

 I can see you're all having withdrawal pains from the CCA site being
 down. It's their site that's down, not tombo.pt, so there's nothing I
 can do.

 As to the 'new' site, this is OLD news (search in this group for my
 messages announcing it more than 18 months ago: "arquivos.azores.gov.pt'").
 It's a catalog site, and for now I see no evidence that they're adding
 records to it.. The one book that you've found there (Estrela baptisms from
 1541 to 1563) has been there since at least March 13 2014. I see no
 evidence that anything is changing regarding that site (and trust me, I
 would know within 24hrs). This other site served a purpose for all of us
 once, when they still hadn't provided everything online. Now that they've
 digitized everything upto 1911, I don't think we'll get any news from them
 in some time.. The tombo.pt sites still checks every week, so if there
 are any news, it will find out automatically. Also, if they ever switch to
 this new site also for the digitized images, tombo.pt will adapt and
 provide you with the listings for each parish, same as today.

 I see that Cheri has already contacted them, and I'm sure they're aware
 of the problem. Let's hope that it's not serious.. Unfortunately, I know as
 much as you. These things happen, but usually it's solved with a simple
 reboot of the machines.

 João C. Ventura
 http://tombo.pt/en

 On Sunday, 11 October 2015 19:59:46 UTC+2, Maryann Santos wrote:
>
> I do the same! Yikes!
> mas
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
> rca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh boy, this is going to take some getting used to! I really, really,
>> hope that the image numbers on the docs are the same as the old site, if
>> not I'm in BIG trouble! I use those image numbers to reference where in 
>> the
>> book my doc is, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge records are such a mess that some
>> of the pages have 3 numbers listed as a page number, I've used the Image
>> numbers so I wouldn't have to worry about those page numbers.
>> I hope that they will put the tag at the top also that says what
>> Island, village, baptism etc. and time period also listed.
>>
>> Let's hope that Joao C. Ventura is aware of the change and that he
>> will be able to figure it out and list the 'easy' way on his Tombo site!
>> Keep your fingers crossed people!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, linda  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No kidding!  I'm very comfortable with the old system too!  Not
>>> looking forward to this new thing...
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:56:58 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos
>>> wrote:

 Thank you so much, Linda. Didn't realize how addicted I was to the
 old way of viewing the documents - nearly panicked!!

 MaryAnn

 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:52 AM, linda 
 wrote:

>
> Hi Maryann,
>
> There was no choice.  I clicked on "Registo de B

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??

[Cheri Mello]

>From the CCA, to me, Cheri:


We inform that  “Inventário Genealógico” and “Biblioteca Digital” of portal
Cultura Açores  are temporarily unavailable.

We’re doing our best to solve the problem as soon as possible.

Please accept our apologizes for the inconvenience.

Best regards.



*Filomena Maria da Silva Barcelos*
(diretora do Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:44 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

> Thank you Angela!!
>
> mas
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ângela Loura 
> wrote:
>
>> I called them today and talked to Rui Marques. He told me that they were
>> aware of the situation and were fixing it. I asked him if they were
>> transffering the records to the arquivos.azores.gov.pt and he told me
>> that everything remained the same, so this is just a server error and we'll
>> have to wait for the CCA to be functional.
>>
>> 2015-10-12 15:59 GMT+01:00 João Ventura :
>>
>>> Hi everyone..
>>>
>>> I've been away for a few months... I haven't been doing much research on
>>> the Azorean side lately, so I dropped out for a while..
>>>
>>> I can see you're all having withdrawal pains from the CCA site being
>>> down. It's their site that's down, not tombo.pt, so there's nothing I
>>> can do.
>>>
>>> As to the 'new' site, this is OLD news (search in this group for my
>>> messages announcing it more than 18 months ago: "arquivos.azores.gov.pt'").
>>> It's a catalog site, and for now I see no evidence that they're adding
>>> records to it.. The one book that you've found there (Estrela baptisms from
>>> 1541 to 1563) has been there since at least March 13 2014. I see no
>>> evidence that anything is changing regarding that site (and trust me, I
>>> would know within 24hrs). This other site served a purpose for all of us
>>> once, when they still hadn't provided everything online. Now that they've
>>> digitized everything upto 1911, I don't think we'll get any news from them
>>> in some time.. The tombo.pt sites still checks every week, so if there
>>> are any news, it will find out automatically. Also, if they ever switch to
>>> this new site also for the digitized images, tombo.pt will adapt and
>>> provide you with the listings for each parish, same as today.
>>>
>>> I see that Cheri has already contacted them, and I'm sure they're aware
>>> of the problem. Let's hope that it's not serious.. Unfortunately, I know as
>>> much as you. These things happen, but usually it's solved with a simple
>>> reboot of the machines.
>>>
>>> João C. Ventura
>>> http://tombo.pt/en
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 11 October 2015 19:59:46 UTC+2, Maryann Santos wrote:

 I do the same! Yikes!
 mas

 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci >>> > wrote:

> Oh boy, this is going to take some getting used to! I really, really,
> hope that the image numbers on the docs are the same as the old site, if
> not I'm in BIG trouble! I use those image numbers to reference where in 
> the
> book my doc is, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge records are such a mess that some
> of the pages have 3 numbers listed as a page number, I've used the Image
> numbers so I wouldn't have to worry about those page numbers.
> I hope that they will put the tag at the top also that says what
> Island, village, baptism etc. and time period also listed.
>
> Let's hope that Joao C. Ventura is aware of the change and that he
> will be able to figure it out and list the 'easy' way on his Tombo site!
> Keep your fingers crossed people!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, linda  wrote:
>
>>
>> No kidding!  I'm very comfortable with the old system too!  Not
>> looking forward to this new thing...
>>
>> L.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:56:58 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you so much, Linda. Didn't realize how addicted I was to the
>>> old way of viewing the documents - nearly panicked!!
>>>
>>> MaryAnn
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:52 AM, linda  wrote:
>>>

 Hi Maryann,

 There was no choice.  I clicked on "Registo de Baptismos"  with the
 book image in the link that Joanne provided.  It goes to that page.

 It might be possible to navigate by changing the values in the
 address bar, but that would take some experimentation.  The site isn't
 functional as far as I can see.  Best practice is to "sandbox" a new
 site/software before the posting public links, but mistakes happen.

 If you go to the information page:

 http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/help

 you can

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??

[MaryAnn Santos]

Thank you Angela!!

mas

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ângela Loura 
wrote:

> I called them today and talked to Rui Marques. He told me that they were
> aware of the situation and were fixing it. I asked him if they were
> transffering the records to the arquivos.azores.gov.pt and he told me
> that everything remained the same, so this is just a server error and we'll
> have to wait for the CCA to be functional.
>
> 2015-10-12 15:59 GMT+01:00 João Ventura :
>
>> Hi everyone..
>>
>> I've been away for a few months... I haven't been doing much research on
>> the Azorean side lately, so I dropped out for a while..
>>
>> I can see you're all having withdrawal pains from the CCA site being
>> down. It's their site that's down, not tombo.pt, so there's nothing I
>> can do.
>>
>> As to the 'new' site, this is OLD news (search in this group for my
>> messages announcing it more than 18 months ago: "arquivos.azores.gov.pt'").
>> It's a catalog site, and for now I see no evidence that they're adding
>> records to it.. The one book that you've found there (Estrela baptisms from
>> 1541 to 1563) has been there since at least March 13 2014. I see no
>> evidence that anything is changing regarding that site (and trust me, I
>> would know within 24hrs). This other site served a purpose for all of us
>> once, when they still hadn't provided everything online. Now that they've
>> digitized everything upto 1911, I don't think we'll get any news from them
>> in some time.. The tombo.pt sites still checks every week, so if there
>> are any news, it will find out automatically. Also, if they ever switch to
>> this new site also for the digitized images, tombo.pt will adapt and
>> provide you with the listings for each parish, same as today.
>>
>> I see that Cheri has already contacted them, and I'm sure they're aware
>> of the problem. Let's hope that it's not serious.. Unfortunately, I know as
>> much as you. These things happen, but usually it's solved with a simple
>> reboot of the machines.
>>
>> João C. Ventura
>> http://tombo.pt/en
>>
>> On Sunday, 11 October 2015 19:59:46 UTC+2, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> I do the same! Yikes!
>>> mas
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh boy, this is going to take some getting used to! I really, really,
 hope that the image numbers on the docs are the same as the old site, if
 not I'm in BIG trouble! I use those image numbers to reference where in the
 book my doc is, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge records are such a mess that some
 of the pages have 3 numbers listed as a page number, I've used the Image
 numbers so I wouldn't have to worry about those page numbers.
 I hope that they will put the tag at the top also that says what
 Island, village, baptism etc. and time period also listed.

 Let's hope that Joao C. Ventura is aware of the change and that he will
 be able to figure it out and list the 'easy' way on his Tombo site! Keep
 your fingers crossed people!

 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, linda  wrote:

>
> No kidding!  I'm very comfortable with the old system too!  Not
> looking forward to this new thing...
>
> L.
>
>
> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:56:58 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>
>> Thank you so much, Linda. Didn't realize how addicted I was to the
>> old way of viewing the documents - nearly panicked!!
>>
>> MaryAnn
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:52 AM, linda  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Maryann,
>>>
>>> There was no choice.  I clicked on "Registo de Baptismos"  with the
>>> book image in the link that Joanne provided.  It goes to that page.
>>>
>>> It might be possible to navigate by changing the values in the
>>> address bar, but that would take some experimentation.  The site isn't
>>> functional as far as I can see.  Best practice is to "sandbox" a new
>>> site/software before the posting public links, but mistakes happen.
>>>
>>> If you go to the information page:
>>>
>>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/help
>>>
>>> you can read a bit about this new viewer.  You can also see "Ipsum
>>> Lorem" placeholder text in at least one of the boxes.  This also 
>>> suggests
>>> that they haven't finished filling in information in the templates 
>>> provided
>>> by the new software.
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:36:25 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos
>>> wrote:

 How did you get it to the right parish and how did you get it to
 display. Sorry is this seems like a dumb question but I haven't been 
 able
 to figure out how to navigate this site.

 mas

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??

[MaryAnn Santos]

Thank you, João!

mas

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:59 AM, João Ventura  wrote:

> Hi everyone..
>
> I've been away for a few months... I haven't been doing much research on
> the Azorean side lately, so I dropped out for a while..
>
> I can see you're all having withdrawal pains from the CCA site being down.
> It's their site that's down, not tombo.pt, so there's nothing I can do.
>
> As to the 'new' site, this is OLD news (search in this group for my
> messages announcing it more than 18 months ago: "arquivos.azores.gov.pt'").
> It's a catalog site, and for now I see no evidence that they're adding
> records to it.. The one book that you've found there (Estrela baptisms from
> 1541 to 1563) has been there since at least March 13 2014. I see no
> evidence that anything is changing regarding that site (and trust me, I
> would know within 24hrs). This other site served a purpose for all of us
> once, when they still hadn't provided everything online. Now that they've
> digitized everything upto 1911, I don't think we'll get any news from them
> in some time.. The tombo.pt sites still checks every week, so if there
> are any news, it will find out automatically. Also, if they ever switch to
> this new site also for the digitized images, tombo.pt will adapt and
> provide you with the listings for each parish, same as today.
>
> I see that Cheri has already contacted them, and I'm sure they're aware of
> the problem. Let's hope that it's not serious.. Unfortunately, I know as
> much as you. These things happen, but usually it's solved with a simple
> reboot of the machines.
>
> João C. Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
>
> On Sunday, 11 October 2015 19:59:46 UTC+2, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>
>> I do the same! Yikes!
>> mas
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh boy, this is going to take some getting used to! I really, really,
>>> hope that the image numbers on the docs are the same as the old site, if
>>> not I'm in BIG trouble! I use those image numbers to reference where in the
>>> book my doc is, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge records are such a mess that some
>>> of the pages have 3 numbers listed as a page number, I've used the Image
>>> numbers so I wouldn't have to worry about those page numbers.
>>> I hope that they will put the tag at the top also that says what Island,
>>> village, baptism etc. and time period also listed.
>>>
>>> Let's hope that Joao C. Ventura is aware of the change and that he will
>>> be able to figure it out and list the 'easy' way on his Tombo site! Keep
>>> your fingers crossed people!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, linda  wrote:
>>>

 No kidding!  I'm very comfortable with the old system too!  Not looking
 forward to this new thing...

 L.


 On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:56:58 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:
>
> Thank you so much, Linda. Didn't realize how addicted I was to the old
> way of viewing the documents - nearly panicked!!
>
> MaryAnn
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:52 AM, linda  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Maryann,
>>
>> There was no choice.  I clicked on "Registo de Baptismos"  with the
>> book image in the link that Joanne provided.  It goes to that page.
>>
>> It might be possible to navigate by changing the values in the
>> address bar, but that would take some experimentation.  The site isn't
>> functional as far as I can see.  Best practice is to "sandbox" a new
>> site/software before the posting public links, but mistakes happen.
>>
>> If you go to the information page:
>>
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/help
>>
>> you can read a bit about this new viewer.  You can also see "Ipsum
>> Lorem" placeholder text in at least one of the boxes.  This also suggests
>> that they haven't finished filling in information in the templates 
>> provided
>> by the new software.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:36:25 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> How did you get it to the right parish and how did you get it to
>>> display. Sorry is this seems like a dumb question but I haven't been 
>>> able
>>> to figure out how to navigate this site.
>>>
>>> mas
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:02 AM, linda  wrote:
>>>
 It looks like they're changing the page format and/or the viewer:

 http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/viewer?id=1021142

 As of 8:00am Pacific time the link works and goes to a page with
 thumbnail images on the left with a main image of a registry page to 
 their
 right.  It's similar to the format we're accustomed to but updated.

 --
 For options, such as changing to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??

[Ângela Loura]

I called them today and talked to Rui Marques. He told me that they were
aware of the situation and were fixing it. I asked him if they were
transffering the records to the arquivos.azores.gov.pt and he told me that
everything remained the same, so this is just a server error and we'll have
to wait for the CCA to be functional.

2015-10-12 15:59 GMT+01:00 João Ventura :

> Hi everyone..
>
> I've been away for a few months... I haven't been doing much research on
> the Azorean side lately, so I dropped out for a while..
>
> I can see you're all having withdrawal pains from the CCA site being down.
> It's their site that's down, not tombo.pt, so there's nothing I can do.
>
> As to the 'new' site, this is OLD news (search in this group for my
> messages announcing it more than 18 months ago: "arquivos.azores.gov.pt'").
> It's a catalog site, and for now I see no evidence that they're adding
> records to it.. The one book that you've found there (Estrela baptisms from
> 1541 to 1563) has been there since at least March 13 2014. I see no
> evidence that anything is changing regarding that site (and trust me, I
> would know within 24hrs). This other site served a purpose for all of us
> once, when they still hadn't provided everything online. Now that they've
> digitized everything upto 1911, I don't think we'll get any news from them
> in some time.. The tombo.pt sites still checks every week, so if there
> are any news, it will find out automatically. Also, if they ever switch to
> this new site also for the digitized images, tombo.pt will adapt and
> provide you with the listings for each parish, same as today.
>
> I see that Cheri has already contacted them, and I'm sure they're aware of
> the problem. Let's hope that it's not serious.. Unfortunately, I know as
> much as you. These things happen, but usually it's solved with a simple
> reboot of the machines.
>
> João C. Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
>
> On Sunday, 11 October 2015 19:59:46 UTC+2, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>
>> I do the same! Yikes!
>> mas
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh boy, this is going to take some getting used to! I really, really,
>>> hope that the image numbers on the docs are the same as the old site, if
>>> not I'm in BIG trouble! I use those image numbers to reference where in the
>>> book my doc is, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge records are such a mess that some
>>> of the pages have 3 numbers listed as a page number, I've used the Image
>>> numbers so I wouldn't have to worry about those page numbers.
>>> I hope that they will put the tag at the top also that says what Island,
>>> village, baptism etc. and time period also listed.
>>>
>>> Let's hope that Joao C. Ventura is aware of the change and that he will
>>> be able to figure it out and list the 'easy' way on his Tombo site! Keep
>>> your fingers crossed people!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, linda  wrote:
>>>

 No kidding!  I'm very comfortable with the old system too!  Not looking
 forward to this new thing...

 L.


 On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:56:58 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:
>
> Thank you so much, Linda. Didn't realize how addicted I was to the old
> way of viewing the documents - nearly panicked!!
>
> MaryAnn
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:52 AM, linda  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Maryann,
>>
>> There was no choice.  I clicked on "Registo de Baptismos"  with the
>> book image in the link that Joanne provided.  It goes to that page.
>>
>> It might be possible to navigate by changing the values in the
>> address bar, but that would take some experimentation.  The site isn't
>> functional as far as I can see.  Best practice is to "sandbox" a new
>> site/software before the posting public links, but mistakes happen.
>>
>> If you go to the information page:
>>
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/help
>>
>> you can read a bit about this new viewer.  You can also see "Ipsum
>> Lorem" placeholder text in at least one of the boxes.  This also suggests
>> that they haven't finished filling in information in the templates 
>> provided
>> by the new software.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:36:25 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> How did you get it to the right parish and how did you get it to
>>> display. Sorry is this seems like a dumb question but I haven't been 
>>> able
>>> to figure out how to navigate this site.
>>>
>>> mas
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:02 AM, linda  wrote:
>>>
 It looks like they're changing the page format and/or the viewer:

 http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/viewer?id=1021142

 As 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda - Povoacao, São Miguel

[manita.morgado]

Attention to anyone that has ancestors from:

Povoacao, São Miguel born in the early 1800s. I suspect the Vila of Povoacao 
and so Matriz Mãe de Deus church records but not necessarily. 

Could you please look in your trees for:

*** Alberto Profirio Botelho Arruda ***

He was most likely born around 1810 to 1830 in Povoacao, São Miguel. He was 
definitely buried in the Povoacao cemetery, Santa Barbara.  I know as I saw his 
tombstone a few weeks ago when I was there. 

Thank you in advance for your help. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of Baptismal Record for Claudia, daughter of Florencia - Ponta Delgada, Flores 1806

[João Ventura]

David,

This is all amazing information. Thanks a lot! You're related to wife as 
you can see in this relationship diagram from her to Florencia Rosa:

http://venturas.org/familytree/relationship.php?ged=venturas&pid1=I5&pid2=I152

This is all I know about her (and her children):

http://venturas.org/familytree/family.php?famid=F60&ged=venturas

In this case I think that Maria de Fraga Nunes is also Maria Coelho. Women 
didn't really have surnames at the time, and they basically had their 
parents surnames or a religious one. 

Such a lousy time for the CCA site to be offline..

João C. Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en

On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 00:38:58 UTC+2, Kawika322 wrote:
>
> Eric, 
>
> I found the death record for Maria de Jesus - one of the other children of 
> Florencia. It states that Florencia was a native of Corvo. Top right, No. 12
>
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-O-1860-1870/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-O-1860-1870_item1/P83.html
>
> I have look through quite a few records and yet to find death record of 
> Florencia, however I looked for her baptismal record (in Corvo) and the 
> only thing I could find was this record: Left side, top record. 
>
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779_item1/P121.html
>
> The mother is listed as Maria de Fraga Nunes, and in the other records of 
> Florencia's children, the mother of Florencia is listed as Maria Coelho, so 
> I am not sure if this is the right one. However, it seems from looking 
> through all the records, this is the only Florencia born on Corvo during 
> the appropriate time frame to a single mother, so it very well could be the 
> right one. 
>
> If you could let me know what you think it would be greatly appreciated. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
>  David
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 9:17:06 AM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's a Santa Cruz, Flores marriage record of a Monica  :
>>
>>
>> João Pimentel Canhoto [f.º de Manuel Pimentel Canhoto e de Inácia
>> Rosa] c. 1816.08.12 c. Mónica Coelho [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das
>> Flores, f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência Rosa].
>>
>>
>> *If it's the same as in the baptism record, she'd be 20 yrs old*
>>
>>
>> Here's Pedro Jose de Avelar's marriage record from  Lajes das Flores:
>>
>> Pedro José de Avelar [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de
>> pai incógnito e de Florência Maria] c. 1813.02.18 c. Úrsula Joaquina [f.ª
>> de pai incógnito e de Isabel Maria].
>>
>> *If it was the same Pedro in the baptism record, he would be 20 years old*
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are marriage records of children  of Florencia a single woman from 
>> Ponta Delgada, Flores
>>
>> Faustino José de Avelar [f.º de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher
>> solteira] c. 1813.10.31 c. Úrsula Maria [f.ª de Joaquim de Sousa e de
>> Mariana de Jesus].
>>
>> *I think this is the brother to Pedro Jose de Avelar*
>>
>>
>> José Álvares [f.º de Manuel Álvares, j. d., e de Mariana de Jesus] c.
>> 1813.11.25 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher
>> solteira].
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 8:38 AM, luiznoia .  wrote:
>>
>>> I think that tracking down Florencia's baptism record , obit, or the 
>>> marriage record of either Pedro or Monica could provide some confirmation.  
>>> I tend to think it is the same mother. 
>>>
>>> The 1792 to 1806 time frame would easily be in childbearing years. It is 
>>> also a time when many people left Corvo to settle in Flores. My ancestor , 
>>> Joao Antonio Vieira was born to a single mother in Corvo in 1789
>>>
>>> and settled in Cedros by 1810.
>>>
>>>  Slavery had been abolished in Continental Portugal in 1761, in Madeira 
>>> in 1775, and by 1800 was on the wane in the Azores, being banned in 1830.
>>>
>>>
>>> The priest in the Claudia record of 1806, and the Monica record of 1796 
>>> is Domingo Bernardo da Sylvera
>>>
>>> The priest in the Pedro record of 1792 is Antonio Lourenco Coelho
>>>
>>> Eric Edgar
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Theresa Entin  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Depending on how common the name Florencia appears in the records 
 during that time frame of 13 years would determine to me if it was the 
 same 
 person.  If it appears as a very uncommon name, then I would say they were 
 the same person.  

 Also, In order to make a good determination, I would check ten years 
 prior to the birth of Pedro and 10 years after the birth of Claudia.

 Were you able to find the birth of Florencia, child of Maria in Corvo?  
 If Maria was also a slave, that would help solving the puzzle.


 On Sep 30, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Kawika322  wrote:

 There is a baptismal record I would like to have people's 
 interpretation on. The record is for a Claudia born 7 Jul 1806 in Sao 
 Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Flores. The mother is names Floren

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??

[João Ventura]

Hi everyone..

I've been away for a few months... I haven't been doing much research on 
the Azorean side lately, so I dropped out for a while..

I can see you're all having withdrawal pains from the CCA site being down. 
It's their site that's down, not tombo.pt, so there's nothing I can do.

As to the 'new' site, this is OLD news (search in this group for my 
messages announcing it more than 18 months ago: "arquivos.azores.gov.pt'"). 
It's a catalog site, and for now I see no evidence that they're adding 
records to it.. The one book that you've found there (Estrela baptisms from 
1541 to 1563) has been there since at least March 13 2014. I see no 
evidence that anything is changing regarding that site (and trust me, I 
would know within 24hrs). This other site served a purpose for all of us 
once, when they still hadn't provided everything online. Now that they've 
digitized everything upto 1911, I don't think we'll get any news from them 
in some time.. The tombo.pt sites still checks every week, so if there are 
any news, it will find out automatically. Also, if they ever switch to this 
new site also for the digitized images, tombo.pt will adapt and provide you 
with the listings for each parish, same as today.

I see that Cheri has already contacted them, and I'm sure they're aware of 
the problem. Let's hope that it's not serious.. Unfortunately, I know as 
much as you. These things happen, but usually it's solved with a simple 
reboot of the machines.

João C. Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en

On Sunday, 11 October 2015 19:59:46 UTC+2, Maryann Santos wrote:
>
> I do the same! Yikes!
> mas
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  > wrote:
>
>> Oh boy, this is going to take some getting used to! I really, really, 
>> hope that the image numbers on the docs are the same as the old site, if 
>> not I'm in BIG trouble! I use those image numbers to reference where in the 
>> book my doc is, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge records are such a mess that some 
>> of the pages have 3 numbers listed as a page number, I've used the Image 
>> numbers so I wouldn't have to worry about those page numbers. 
>> I hope that they will put the tag at the top also that says what Island, 
>> village, baptism etc. and time period also listed. 
>>
>> Let's hope that Joao C. Ventura is aware of the change and that he will 
>> be able to figure it out and list the 'easy' way on his Tombo site! Keep 
>> your fingers crossed people! 
>>
>> Rosemarie 
>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, linda 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No kidding!  I'm very comfortable with the old system too!  Not looking 
>>> forward to this new thing...
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:56:58 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:

 Thank you so much, Linda. Didn't realize how addicted I was to the old 
 way of viewing the documents - nearly panicked!!

 MaryAnn

 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:52 AM, linda  wrote:

>
> Hi Maryann,
>
> There was no choice.  I clicked on "Registo de Baptismos"  with the 
> book image in the link that Joanne provided.  It goes to that page.  
>
> It might be possible to navigate by changing the values in the address 
> bar, but that would take some experimentation.  The site isn't functional 
> as far as I can see.  Best practice is to "sandbox" a new site/software 
> before the posting public links, but mistakes happen.
>
> If you go to the information page:
>
> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/help
>
> you can read a bit about this new viewer.  You can also see "Ipsum 
> Lorem" placeholder text in at least one of the boxes.  This also suggests 
> that they haven't finished filling in information in the templates 
> provided 
> by the new software.
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 8:36:25 AM UTC-7, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>
>> How did you get it to the right parish and how did you get it to 
>> display. Sorry is this seems like a dumb question but I haven't been 
>> able 
>> to figure out how to navigate this site.
>>
>> mas
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:02 AM, linda  wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like they're changing the page format and/or the viewer:
>>>
>>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/viewer?id=1021142
>>>
>>> As of 8:00am Pacific time the link works and goes to a page with 
>>> thumbnail images on the left with a main image of a registry page to 
>>> their 
>>> right.  It's similar to the format we're accustomed to but updated.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] resources

[Barbara Davis]

Thursday works well. Are you available this week? And can we assume the CCA Wil 
be up?

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