[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: `1886 Rabo de Peixe baptism of Jose Taveres de Teves

[JR]

It's ganhadeiro. It looks like a nickname to me, meaning one who is a 
"winner', or who is winning. It may have a specific meaning in its 
historical time that I am not aware of. 

*ga·nha·dei·ro* 
(*ganhar + -deiro*)
*adjectivo e substantivo masculino*

1. Que ou quem aufere ganhos, lucros.

2. Que ou quem é agenciador. = AGENCIOSO

3. Que ou quem faz qualquer tipo de serviço. = GANHÃO

4. Que ou quem é interesseiro.
Parecidas

"ganhadeiro", in Dicionário Priberam da Língua Portuguesa [em linha], 
2008-2013, https://www.priberam.pt/dlpo/ganhadeiro [consultado em 
28-08-2016].

On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 12:54:10 AM UTC-4, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have most of this, but need help with one word (a name or occupation.).
>
> It's on the ninth line of the right page: Luis da Costa ??? e de...
>
> It looks like Gandadeiro but its nothing I've seen before.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1885-1889/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1885-1889_item1/P93.html
>
> Thank you,
> Bill Seidler
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] `1886 Rabo de Peixe baptism of Jose Taveres de Teves

[bsei2816]

I have most of this, but need help with one word (a name or occupation.).

It's on the ninth line of the right page: Luis da Costa ??? e de...

It looks like Gandadeiro but its nothing I've seen before.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1885-1889/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1885-1889_item1/P93.html

Thank you,
Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Bretanha Baptism puzzle - Grandparents of Antonio de Medeiros 1852

[linda]

I'm not very experienced-- JR has the the definitive word here. :)

But, I'm very happy to have a look at your record, and this is what I can 
read about Alexandria:

Alexandria, 29 yrs old, single, [---ada de servir = I guess, domestic 
service/duties], native and baptised in the parish of Nossa Senhora 
d'Ajuada, Bertanha, this council, living in this Matriz, legitimate 
daughter of Antonio de Medeiros, native of the [previously] referred to 
parish of Nossa Senhora d'Ajuada, and of Maria Jose, native of [the] City 
of Braganca [--?] Portugal

If Alexandria was a native and resident of the parish, then it seems likely 
her mother--if still living-- would have resided in Bretanha for that long 
too.  But the record doesn't say that.

Do you have Alexandria's or Antonio's Baptisms?  Or Antonio de Medeiro's + 
Maria Jose's Marriage?  

good luck!

:)

Linda

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-7, Joanne wrote:
>
> That makes a little more sense, Linda, and looks closer to what looks like 
> Garcia on another granddaughter’s baptismal entry. Tereza is looking pretty 
> good as well. JR seems to agree as well and all the other info is what I 
> could read so thanks for the confirmation!
>
> From your experience, would a marriage entry have more information on a 
> parent’s time living in a village. In reading Antonio’s sister’s marriage 
> entry (Alexandrina and her husband Joao Carvalho) I thought I read 
> something about the mother residing some 30 years in Bretanha. I’ll include 
> the links here if you care to take a look —> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879_item1/P177.html
>  & 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879_item1/P178.html
>
> I really want to follow them into the mainland because I’m wondering if 
> they are my Jewish connection - it’s just a hunch but I’m willing to track 
> it down.
>
> Thanks again for the help!
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
>
>
> On August 27, 2016 at 11:24:01 PM, linda (menese...@gmail.com 
> ) wrote:
>
> Hi Joanne,
>
> Right side, Top entry
>
> I think it looks like Andre Gracia, which is a variant of Garcia, if I 
> understand rightly.  If you look at the "C" in "nasces" (right after 
> Maria's last name), it's the same as in "Gracia".  The "a" looks like an 
> "o" to me too, but I'm fairly sure it's an "a".
>
> As for Maria's last name, at first I couldn't make it out at all, but then 
> it snapped into being: "Tereza".  I could easily still be wrong, so others 
> should weigh in too!
>
> hope that helps,
>
> :)
>
> Linda
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 7:32:53 PM UTC-7, Joanne wrote: 
>>
>> Ok, here’s a brick wall I’ve been trying to crack for years. The surnames 
>> of the maternal grandparents in this document are different than the little 
>> information I have had on them. Here is their grandson’s baptism info —> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853_item1/P147.html
>>
>> I’m interpreting the last name of Andre as GROLIA and Maria as SENRA 
>> (I’ve had them as GARCIA & ALVES from other sources) but I’ve never seen 
>> names like this before. Since they appear to be from the mainland I have no 
>> experience tracing anyone back there so I might need some help. Please tell 
>> me if the names are correct and how I can best follow the trail next. 
>>
>> As always, thanks for your help!
>> Joanne Grota Mercier
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Bretanha Baptism puzzle - Grandparents of Antonio de Medeiros 1852

[Joanne Mercier]

That makes a little more sense, Linda, and looks closer to what looks like
Garcia on another granddaughter’s baptismal entry. Tereza is looking pretty
good as well. JR seems to agree as well and all the other info is what I
could read so thanks for the confirmation!

>From your experience, would a marriage entry have more information on a
parent’s time living in a village. In reading Antonio’s sister’s marriage
entry (Alexandrina and her husband Joao Carvalho) I thought I read
something about the mother residing some 30 years in Bretanha. I’ll include
the links here if you care to take a look —>
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879_item1/P177.html
 &
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1870-1879_item1/P178.html

I really want to follow them into the mainland because I’m wondering if
they are my Jewish connection - it’s just a hunch but I’m willing to track
it down.

Thanks again for the help!
Joanne Grota Mercier



On August 27, 2016 at 11:24:01 PM, linda (menesesli...@gmail.com) wrote:

Hi Joanne,

Right side, Top entry

I think it looks like Andre Gracia, which is a variant of Garcia, if I
understand rightly.  If you look at the "C" in "nasces" (right after
Maria's last name), it's the same as in "Gracia".  The "a" looks like an
"o" to me too, but I'm fairly sure it's an "a".

As for Maria's last name, at first I couldn't make it out at all, but then
it snapped into being: "Tereza".  I could easily still be wrong, so others
should weigh in too!

hope that helps,

:)

Linda

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 7:32:53 PM UTC-7, Joanne wrote:
>
> Ok, here’s a brick wall I’ve been trying to crack for years. The surnames
> of the maternal grandparents in this document are different than the little
> information I have had on them. Here is their grandson’s baptism info —>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-
> 1853_item1/P147.html
>
> I’m interpreting the last name of Andre as GROLIA and Maria as SENRA (I’ve
> had them as GARCIA & ALVES from other sources) but I’ve never seen names
> like this before. Since they appear to be from the mainland I have no
> experience tracing anyone back there so I might need some help. Please tell
> me if the names are correct and how I can best follow the trail next.
>
> As always, thanks for your help!
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[linda]

Hooray! Cheri cracked the case!

:D



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>
> Record 401, upper left:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P247.html
>
> They registered in Angra but sailed out of Sao Miguel
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Bretanha Baptism puzzle - Grandparents of Antonio de Medeiros 1852

[JR]

Bretanha bap- Antonio filho de Antonio de Medeiros nat de Bretanha and 
Maria de Sao Jose, nat de cidade de Braganca, Pat- Antonio de Medeiros and 
Victoria de Oliveira, ja defuntos and Mat- Andre Gracia and Maria Tereza , 
born- Dec 14- 1852, bap- Dec 23, Pad- Francisco Cabral Botelho  e sua 
mulher Maria Ricarda

JR

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 10:32:53 PM UTC-4, Joanne wrote:
>
> Ok, here’s a brick wall I’ve been trying to crack for years. The surnames 
> of the maternal grandparents in this document are different than the little 
> information I have had on them. Here is their grandson’s baptism info —> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853_item1/P147.html
>
> I’m interpreting the last name of Andre as GROLIA and Maria as SENRA (I’ve 
> had them as GARCIA & ALVES from other sources) but I’ve never seen names 
> like this before. Since they appear to be from the mainland I have no 
> experience tracing anyone back there so I might need some help. Please tell 
> me if the names are correct and how I can best follow the trail next. 
>
> As always, thanks for your help!
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Cheri Mello]

Record 401, upper left:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P247.html

They registered in Angra but sailed out of Sao Miguel

Cheri Mello
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Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Bretanha Baptism puzzle - Grandparents of Antonio de Medeiros 1852

[linda]

Hi Joanne,

Right side, Top entry

I think it looks like Andre Gracia, which is a variant of Garcia, if I 
understand rightly.  If you look at the "C" in "nasces" (right after 
Maria's last name), it's the same as in "Gracia".  The "a" looks like an 
"o" to me too, but I'm fairly sure it's an "a".

As for Maria's last name, at first I couldn't make it out at all, but then 
it snapped into being: "Tereza".  I could easily still be wrong, so others 
should weigh in too!

hope that helps,

:)

Linda

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 7:32:53 PM UTC-7, Joanne wrote:
>
> Ok, here’s a brick wall I’ve been trying to crack for years. The surnames 
> of the maternal grandparents in this document are different than the little 
> information I have had on them. Here is their grandson’s baptism info —> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853_item1/P147.html
>
> I’m interpreting the last name of Andre as GROLIA and Maria as SENRA (I’ve 
> had them as GARCIA & ALVES from other sources) but I’ve never seen names 
> like this before. Since they appear to be from the mainland I have no 
> experience tracing anyone back there so I might need some help. Please tell 
> me if the names are correct and how I can best follow the trail next. 
>
> As always, thanks for your help!
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with names.

[linda]

This is what it looks like to me, but I'm not positive about it all:

Antonio Paes viuvo de Victoria Novais filho de Joao dos Reis Balieiro e de 
sua mulher Izabel G.lz [Goncalves] com Luzia de Gloria de S.to An.to [Santo 
Antonio] f.a de Joao de Avis defunto e de sua mulher Maria Luis 

Baliero is a surname, and if you enter it in the search box, you'll get 
some hits about it here in the group.

Good luck!

:)

Linda


On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 5:29:35 PM UTC-7, jemendonca642 wrote:
>
> Left page, 2nd record.  Some of these names are unfamiliar to me.  
> Starting on the 11th line I think it is the following: ?- means I'm not 
> sure.
>
> Antonio Paes viuvo de Victoria Novais? filho de Joao do Reis Balieiro? e 
> sua mulher Izabel G R? com Luzia da Gloria def to? Anto? fa. de Joao de 
> Alves? de funto e sua mulher Maria Paes?.
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-C-1702-1741/GRA-SC-LUZ-C-1702-1741_item1/P95.html
>
> Thank you again.
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Another Bretanha Baptism puzzle - Grandparents of Antonio de Medeiros 1852

[Joanne Mercier]

Ok, here’s a brick wall I’ve been trying to crack for years. The surnames
of the maternal grandparents in this document are different than the little
information I have had on them. Here is their grandson’s baptism info —>
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1845-1853_item1/P147.html

I’m interpreting the last name of Andre as GROLIA and Maria as SENRA (I’ve
had them as GARCIA & ALVES from other sources) but I’ve never seen names
like this before. Since they appear to be from the mainland I have no
experience tracing anyone back there so I might need some help. Please tell
me if the names are correct and how I can best follow the trail next.

As always, thanks for your help!
Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[E. Sharp]

Lisbon church records are online same place Azores and fairly easy to find if 
you have church and date to go by. They also have some passport records too. 
"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Cheri Mello]

I sent you a private email and asked for your contact information.

If you tested after the mid-May date (no, Ancestry isn't going to tell
FTDNA the competition when they are changing formats), it wouldn't
transfer. FTDNA would refund you.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Christian Day 
wrote:

> I can't tell. It might be after that we tested. I can't remember. But it
> would have been after that that they processed the test. But the page you
> sent me has a separate section for third party uploads and it does not say
> family finder in that section so it's just impossible. The only person I
> know who knows anything about this is practically impossible to reach so
> I'm at my wits end and will probably put this on hold till I can call the
> company because it very much does not say Family Finder under the third
> party section. It just lists by markers (33 or 46) and nothing at Ancestry
> that I can find says anything like that. It's so frustrating. LOL
>
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 8:17:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> If you tested with Ancestry before mid-May of this year (2016), you can
>> transfer. It will be the Family Finder.
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Christian Day]

I can't tell. It might be after that we tested. I can't remember. But it 
would have been after that that they processed the test. But the page you 
sent me has a separate section for third party uploads and it does not say 
family finder in that section so it's just impossible. The only person I 
know who knows anything about this is practically impossible to reach so 
I'm at my wits end and will probably put this on hold till I can call the 
company because it very much does not say Family Finder under the third 
party section. It just lists by markers (33 or 46) and nothing at Ancestry 
that I can find says anything like that. It's so frustrating. LOL

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 8:17:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> If you tested with Ancestry before mid-May of this year (2016), you can 
> transfer. It will be the Family Finder.
>
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Christian Day]

It would be nice if FTDNA listed that May 2016 thing. What if I'd already 
bought the upload version? I wasn't doing it to save $10 ($58 versus $69). 
I was doing it to speed things up. 

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> If you tested with Ancestry before mid-May of this year (2016), you can 
> transfer. It will be the Family Finder.
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Cheri Mello]

If you tested with Ancestry before mid-May of this year (2016), you can
transfer. It will be the Family Finder.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Cheri Mello]

St. Michael's is Sao Miguel. In the Azores. San Miguel island is one of the
Channel Islands off the coast of California. Wrong ocean. Sao is Portuguese
and San is Spanish.

The Romanic arrived in Boston on Feb. 1, Mar 14, Apr. 25, June 6, Sep 7,
Oct 16, and Nov 22, of 1911. It was part of the White Star Line. I don't
know that it went to the Azores every single time though.

The Passaportes (emigration OUT of the Azores) exist for 1911 and are
online here:
http://tombo.pt/en/d/acores
1911 is split between two books. You are going to have to go down the name
column, stopping at every Joao Machado Silva or Joao Silva Machado that you
see. Hopefully, you find the one with the wife Ludovina and child Maria.
Once you find them, you'll want to look over to the right for the columns
for Concelho & Freguesia.

You'll probably want to do a Ctrl++ a few times to make those images
larger. If you find them, copy the URL and post it to the list. State the
line (passenger or passport number) and someone will give you the headings
and a translation.

Yeah, you'll get used to the name game.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Christian Day]

Oh, and one last thing. FTDNA allows transfer from Ancestry for a smaller 
fee but I have no earthly idea what one I have. 

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 8:02:28 PM UTC-5, Christian Day wrote:
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> p.s. Cheri, would it help you if I got the Y DNA thingie for $339?
>
> On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 7:44:08 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Christian,
>>
>> Do as many of the things in the How To link I provided as you can: 
>> http://goo.gl/ToCPC0
>>
>> Yes, it is like looking for a needle in the haystack. That's why you need 
>> the island he came from, then his freguesia (village). Finding his ship is 
>> good, but you need to know which island before you can find the ship.
>>
>> You *think* you have his exact birthdate. Maybe you do. Maybe he's using 
>> his baptism date. How many different sources have you found that birthdate 
>> on? And it never varied? If so,then you have either his birth or his 
>> baptism date. If you are finding different dates, then he's like all the 
>> other immigrants coming to America. They were illiterate back then and 
>> kinda knew when they were born.
>>
>> And you should order a Family Finder test between now and Tuesday, while 
>> the sale is on. I mentioned that in the previous email. goo.gl/V0dHk3
>>
>> It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I found my freguesia. This was 
>> all before computers too. My immigrant's name was Manuel de Mello. There's 
>> about 5 of those in every freguesia as well. And I thought I had his 
>> birthdate too. I didn't.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Margaret Vicente]

1833-34 in Sao Miguel Arcanjo, Vila Franca
1835 - N. Sra. da Mae de Deus, Povoacao.

I think the mother's name is Ana Matilde (looks like he wrote Metilde)

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Here it is in his marriage, on the left, the line above where the
> watermark starts:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840_item1/P119.html
>
> It looks like Santos something, I think Santos Velhos, but I'm to record
> it as Santos-o-Velho, correct?
>
> The lines after look like it says Candido fulfilled his Lenten obligations
> there or in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. I can't figure out which. I
> kinda think SMA. Then he did his 1835 Lenten ones in Povoacao?
> Thanks! Cheri
>
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> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rosemari and Cheri.
>>
>> There used to be the parish of Santos as well but in 2012 it was
>> separated and absorbed by the parish of Estrela.  The bairro/neighbourhood
>> of Santos i.e. where the church was built is still there but no longer
>> considered of "freguesia".
>>
>> Hope this helps clarify.
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it's just Santos city of Lisboa?? I Googled Santos de Lisboa and
>>> it came up. Maybe someone more familier with Lisbon can tell us!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Top right for Anna:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
 RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853
 _item1/P40.html

 Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
 Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
 this one.

 This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt.
 So no blood relation.
 Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Christian Day]

p.s. Cheri, would it help you if I got the Y DNA thingie for $339?

On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 7:44:08 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Christian,
>
> Do as many of the things in the How To link I provided as you can: 
> http://goo.gl/ToCPC0
>
> Yes, it is like looking for a needle in the haystack. That's why you need 
> the island he came from, then his freguesia (village). Finding his ship is 
> good, but you need to know which island before you can find the ship.
>
> You *think* you have his exact birthdate. Maybe you do. Maybe he's using 
> his baptism date. How many different sources have you found that birthdate 
> on? And it never varied? If so,then you have either his birth or his 
> baptism date. If you are finding different dates, then he's like all the 
> other immigrants coming to America. They were illiterate back then and 
> kinda knew when they were born.
>
> And you should order a Family Finder test between now and Tuesday, while 
> the sale is on. I mentioned that in the previous email. goo.gl/V0dHk3
>
> It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I found my freguesia. This was 
> all before computers too. My immigrant's name was Manuel de Mello. There's 
> about 5 of those in every freguesia as well. And I thought I had his 
> birthdate too. I didn't.
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for Joao Machado!

[Christian Day]

Hi Cheri,

Thank you. I am still digging out which part of the Azores he is from but 
it turns out the naming conventions making things even weirder. I am 99% 
sure I tracked him to the boat he came over on, which was the Romanic in 
1911. His name on the boat was actually Joao M. Silva. He had his wife 
Ludovina Silva and their one year old baby, Maria, which was confirmed by 
family (though Ancestry's OCR translation of census mistakenly said she was 
7 when the image clearly says 1). They were going to stay with his brother 
Manoel Jose Machado in Peabody, MA. All the ages (years anyway) match up. I 
also found (and verified by numbered street address in Peabody, MA) that 
his WW1 draft card said Joao Silva, Dec 1 1887 while his WW2 card said Joao 
Machado Dec 1 1887 with the same 2 Collins Street, Peabody address. I guess 
a lot of this has to do with flipping of names. 

I do have the island. It's St. Michaels. I'm guessing that's San Miguel?

I will check out the Family Finder test. I haven't heard of that one, only 
NatGeo, Ancestry, and FamilyTreeDNA. 

Thank you again,

Christian



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> Christian,
>
> Do as many of the things in the How To link I provided as you can: 
> http://goo.gl/ToCPC0
>
> Yes, it is like looking for a needle in the haystack. That's why you need 
> the island he came from, then his freguesia (village). Finding his ship is 
> good, but you need to know which island before you can find the ship.
>
> You *think* you have his exact birthdate. Maybe you do. Maybe he's using 
> his baptism date. How many different sources have you found that birthdate 
> on? And it never varied? If so,then you have either his birth or his 
> baptism date. If you are finding different dates, then he's like all the 
> other immigrants coming to America. They were illiterate back then and 
> kinda knew when they were born.
>
> And you should order a Family Finder test between now and Tuesday, while 
> the sale is on. I mentioned that in the previous email. goo.gl/V0dHk3
>
> It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I found my freguesia. This was 
> all before computers too. My immigrant's name was Manuel de Mello. There's 
> about 5 of those in every freguesia as well. And I thought I had his 
> birthdate too. I didn't.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Margaret Vicente]

Yes, it says "Santos Velhos" but you got it...it should be recorded
Santos-o-Velho. and do you know why?

Simply because there are two (2) in Lisbon, named Santos: Santos-o-Velho
(church) and Santos-o-Novo (monastery).

Have a look.
http://www.openhouselisboa.com/places/convento-de-santos-o-novo/

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Oops, and Candido's mom's name, right at the watermark. I have an idea, I
> just want to be sure. Thanks!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Here it is in his marriage, on the left, the line above where the
>> watermark starts:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-
>> MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840_item1/P119.html
>>
>> It looks like Santos something, I think Santos Velhos, but I'm to record
>> it as Santos-o-Velho, correct?
>>
>> The lines after look like it says Candido fulfilled his Lenten
>> obligations there or in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. I can't figure
>> out which. I kinda think SMA. Then he did his 1835 Lenten ones in Povoacao?
>> Thanks! Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Margaret Vicente <
>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rosemari and Cheri.
>>>
>>> There used to be the parish of Santos as well but in 2012 it was
>>> separated and absorbed by the parish of Estrela.  The bairro/neighbourhood
>>> of Santos i.e. where the church was built is still there but no longer
>>> considered of "freguesia".
>>>
>>> Hope this helps clarify.
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think it's just Santos city of Lisboa?? I Googled Santos de Lisboa
 and it came up. Maybe someone more familier with Lisbon can tell us!

 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> Top right for Anna:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
> RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853
> _item1/P40.html
>
> Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
> Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
> this one.
>
> This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt.
> So no blood relation.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with names.

[Joseph Mendonca]

Left page, 2nd record.  Some of these names are unfamiliar to me.  Starting
on the 11th line I think it is the following: ?- means I'm not sure.

Antonio Paes viuvo de Victoria Novais? filho de Joao do Reis Balieiro? e
sua mulher Izabel G R? com Luzia da Gloria def to? Anto? fa. de Joao de
Alves? de funto e sua mulher Maria Paes?.



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-
SC-LUZ-C-1702-1741/GRA-SC-LUZ-C-1702-1741_item1/P95.html

Thank you again.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Cheri Mello]

Oops, and Candido's mom's name, right at the watermark. I have an idea, I
just want to be sure. Thanks!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Here it is in his marriage, on the left, the line above where the
> watermark starts:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840_item1/P119.html
>
> It looks like Santos something, I think Santos Velhos, but I'm to record
> it as Santos-o-Velho, correct?
>
> The lines after look like it says Candido fulfilled his Lenten obligations
> there or in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. I can't figure out which. I
> kinda think SMA. Then he did his 1835 Lenten ones in Povoacao?
> Thanks! Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rosemari and Cheri.
>>
>> There used to be the parish of Santos as well but in 2012 it was
>> separated and absorbed by the parish of Estrela.  The bairro/neighbourhood
>> of Santos i.e. where the church was built is still there but no longer
>> considered of "freguesia".
>>
>> Hope this helps clarify.
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it's just Santos city of Lisboa?? I Googled Santos de Lisboa and
>>> it came up. Maybe someone more familier with Lisbon can tell us!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Top right for Anna:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
 RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853
 _item1/P40.html

 Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
 Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
 this one.

 This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt.
 So no blood relation.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Cheri Mello]

Here it is in his marriage, on the left, the line above where the watermark
starts:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840_item1/P119.html

It looks like Santos something, I think Santos Velhos, but I'm to record it
as Santos-o-Velho, correct?

The lines after look like it says Candido fulfilled his Lenten obligations
there or in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. I can't figure out which. I
kinda think SMA. Then he did his 1835 Lenten ones in Povoacao?
Thanks! Cheri

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On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Rosemari and Cheri.
>
> There used to be the parish of Santos as well but in 2012 it was separated
> and absorbed by the parish of Estrela.  The bairro/neighbourhood of Santos
> i.e. where the church was built is still there but no longer considered of
> "freguesia".
>
> Hope this helps clarify.
>
> Margaret
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> I think it's just Santos city of Lisboa?? I Googled Santos de Lisboa and
>> it came up. Maybe someone more familier with Lisbon can tell us!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
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>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Top right for Anna:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
>>> RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853
>>> _item1/P40.html
>>>
>>> Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
>>> Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
>>> this one.
>>>
>>> This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt. So
>>> no blood relation.
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Margaret Vicente]

Rosemari and Cheri.

There used to be the parish of Santos as well but in 2012 it was separated
and absorbed by the parish of Estrela.  The bairro/neighbourhood of Santos
i.e. where the church was built is still there but no longer considered of
"freguesia".

Hope this helps clarify.

Margaret


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> I think it's just Santos city of Lisboa?? I Googled Santos de Lisboa and
> it came up. Maybe someone more familier with Lisbon can tell us!
>
> Rosemarie
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> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Top right for Anna:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
>> RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853
>> _item1/P40.html
>>
>> Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
>> Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
>> this one.
>>
>> This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt. So
>> no blood relation.
>> Cheri Mello
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>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Margaret Vicente]

Cheri,

It reads "igreja de Santos da cidade de Lisboa"  The full name is actually
Santos-o-Velho.  I was there last month.

Here's a link for a quick view.

http://www.cm-lisboa.pt/equipamentos/equipamento/info/igreja-de-santos-o-velho

Margaret


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> Top right for Anna:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-
> 1853_item1/P40.html
>
> Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
> Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
> this one.
>
> This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt. So
> no blood relation.
> Cheri Mello
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> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I think it's just Santos city of Lisboa?? I Googled Santos de Lisboa and it
came up. Maybe someone more familier with Lisbon can tell us!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Top right for Anna:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-
> 1853_item1/P40.html
>
> Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
> Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
> this one.
>
> This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt. So
> no blood relation.
> Cheri Mello
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

[Cheri Mello]

Top right for Anna:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1839-1853_item1/P40.html

Her father, Candido Jose was from Igreja dos Santos in Lisboa? Or just
Santos? I'm not familiar with Lisbon, so I'm not too sure how to record
this one.

This is the 2 great grandfather of the husband of my great-grandaunt. So no
blood relation.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA's Sizzling Summer Sale ends Tuesday, August 30, 11:59 pm CDT

[Liz Migliori]

I got her. I think

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> On Aug 27, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Elizabeth Migliori  
>> wrote:
>> OK so here I go again.
>> I ordered 1 family finder for male and gave name of Anthony Cabral
>> now I want to order another but female for Lucy Peixoto and it wont' let me.
>> 
>> Is it really just me???
>> 
>> Liz
>> I think i've been at this to long today
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>>> 
>>> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) announced that their Sizzling Summer Sale will end 
>>> on Tuesday, August 30, at 11:59 pm CDT. For those who missed the original 
>>> announcement:
>>> 
>>> This sale is mostly bundled tests. The only test that will be on sale alone 
>>> will be Family Finder for $69 USD instead of $99 USD (it's never been this 
>>> low before and is below the cost of running the test). 
>>> 
>>> If you are an EXISTING customer of FTDNA, log into your kit and order 
>>> additional tests from your page. 
>>> 
>>> If you are testing a NEW family member or if you are NEW to testing, (never 
>>> ordered before), use the links below (Join through one project and then add 
>>> other projects later if you qualify (say you have both Madeira and Azores 
>>> lines you can be in both projects, but just  order through one project).
>>> 
>>> Azores: https://goo.gl/V0dHk3
>>> Madeira: https://goo.gl/XH3yEB
>>> Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/yJzNv1
>>> Here is the pricing:
>>> Product  Retail PriceSale Price   Group Price
>>> 
>>> Family Finder $99   $69 $69 
>>> Y37 + Family Finder $268  $228 $218 
>>> Y67 + Family Finder $367  $327 $317 
>>> Comprehensive Genome (FF+Y67+FMS) $566$499 $489 
>>> FMS + Family Finder $298 $258  $258
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My great grandfather Manuel Rose listed on 1910 census at Pierce street in East Providence, RI - Brick Wall

[Walt Teixeira]

Jenna, I agree with Judy.  Look at the city directories.  My mother was 
told by her mother that her dad had died when she was a baby.  In one of 
the city directories it stated that he had returned to Portugal.  Through 
ship's records I found the village he came from and eventually found his 
daughter from another marriage (my mother's half sister).  You got the 
short version but it ended well with sisters getting together and loving 
each other as well as a terrific relationship between my aunt and myself.  
Another piece of the puzzle was that I checked with the cemeteries in the 
area and one responded that they didn't have my grandfather but did have a 
sister of my mother's that had died at 1 year old who my mother new nothing 
about.  That gave me some information that my grandfather was alive a lot 
longer that we were led to believe.Good luck - keep looking. 

On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 11:44:26 PM UTC-5, Jennea Nunes-Rose- Young 
wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>   I have been digging for several months to locate my great 
> grandfather, Manuel Rose. I believe he married a Mary/Maria Fonseca born in 
> New Bedford about 1877. Her first marriage may have been to a Joseph neves.
>
> I have found mary/Maria and Manuel together only once on the 1910 census 
> in East Providence, RI. On the 1920 census Mary Rose lists herslf as a 
> widow. I have not been able to pinpoint his death year or location. They 
> have the following children from their union:
>
>
> John Rose b.1906/07 died 1935 in Providence, RI
> Lewis/Louis b.1908described as a hobo. He lived under the fox point 
> bridge at times, was a light drinker, never married, he played the 
> accordian and was able to speak French! possible mental illness
> Flora? died in childhood?
> Lena b.1909/1910
> Jennie Mae Rose b. 9/24/1911 (my paternal grandmother)
>
>
>
>
>   
> 
> Please help, I want to understand my lineage
>
>   
> 
>  Jennea Nunes Rose- Young
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA's Sizzling Summer Sale ends Tuesday, August 30, 11:59 pm CDT

[Cheri Mello]

Order Lucy Peixoto here: http://goo.gl/V0dHk3

Cheri Mello
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Elizabeth Migliori 
wrote:

> OK so here I go again.
> I ordered 1 family finder for male and gave name of Anthony Cabral
> now I want to order another but female for Lucy Peixoto and it wont' let
> me.
>
> Is it really just me???
>
> Liz
> I think i've been at this to long today
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>>
>> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) announced that their Sizzling Summer Sale will
>> end on Tuesday, August 30, at 11:59 pm CDT. For those who missed the
>> original announcement:
>>
>> This sale is mostly bundled tests. The only test that will be on sale
>> alone will be Family Finder for $69 USD instead of $99 USD (it's never been
>> this low before and is below the cost of running the test).
>>
>> If you are an EXISTING customer of FTDNA, log into your kit and order
>> additional tests from your page.
>>
>> If you are testing a NEW family member or if you are NEW to testing,
>> (never ordered before), use the links below (Join through one project and
>> then add other projects later if you qualify (say you have both Madeira and
>> Azores lines you can be in both projects, but just order through one
>> project).
>>
>> Azores: https://goo.gl/V0dHk3
>> Madeira: https://goo.gl/XH3yEB
>> Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/yJzNv1
>> Here is the pricing:
>> *Product  Retail PriceSale Price   Group Price*
>>
>> *Family Finder* *$99* *  $69* *$69*
>> *Y37 + Family Finder* *$268*  *$228* *$218*
>> *Y67 + Family Finder* *$367*  *$327* *$317*
>> *Comprehensive Genome (FF+Y67+FMS)* *$566* *   $499* *$489*
>> *FMS + Family Finder* *$298* *$258  $258*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA's Sizzling Summer Sale ends Tuesday, August 30, 11:59 pm CDT

[Elizabeth Migliori]

OK so here I go again.
I ordered 1 family finder for male and gave name of Anthony Cabral
now I want to order another but female for Lucy Peixoto and it wont' let me.

Is it really just me???

Liz
I think i've been at this to long today

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>
> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) announced that their Sizzling Summer Sale will end
> on Tuesday, August 30, at 11:59 pm CDT. For those who missed the original
> announcement:
>
> This sale is mostly bundled tests. The only test that will be on sale
> alone will be Family Finder for $69 USD instead of $99 USD (it's never been
> this low before and is below the cost of running the test).
>
> If you are an EXISTING customer of FTDNA, log into your kit and order
> additional tests from your page.
>
> If you are testing a NEW family member or if you are NEW to testing,
> (never ordered before), use the links below (Join through one project and
> then add other projects later if you qualify (say you have both Madeira and
> Azores lines you can be in both projects, but just order through one
> project).
>
> Azores: https://goo.gl/V0dHk3
> Madeira: https://goo.gl/XH3yEB
> Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/yJzNv1
> Here is the pricing:
> *Product  Retail PriceSale Price   Group Price*
>
> *Family Finder* *$99* *  $69* *$69*
> *Y37 + Family Finder* *$268*  *$228* *$218*
> *Y67 + Family Finder* *$367*  *$327* *$317*
> *Comprehensive Genome (FF+Y67+FMS)* *$566* *   $499* *$489*
> *FMS + Family Finder* *$298* *$258  $258*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Bretanha baptism 1871 - Alminda Benevides

[Joanne Mercier]

Thanks, Bill - then I’ll go with those two dates unless someone else
seeings it differently. You folks on this list are the best!


On August 27, 2016 at 3:39:58 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com (bsei2...@gmail.com)
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I see the same.  7 May for the baptism and 19 March for the birth.   Most
baptisms seem to be within a few days to two weeks.  This one was at about
seven weeks.


Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Bretanha baptism 1871 - Alminda Benevides

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I see the same.  7 May for the baptism and 19 March for the birth.   Most 
baptisms seem to be within a few days to two weeks.  This one was at about 
seven weeks.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] contact

[Cheri Mello]

There's a blue envelope under their name. See the attached screen shot. I
put a red arrow pointing to the envelope. Click that and you should get
their email address.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Elizabeth Migliori 
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> Hi
> How do I contact someone listed on my family finder?  I thought it used to
> give the email address but I can't seem to find it now.
>
> This is the first person I've ever seen with the last name of my family
> besides me.  I really need to connect with this person.
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> Liz
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[AZORES-Genealogy] contact

[Elizabeth Migliori]

Hi
How do I contact someone listed on my family finder?  I thought it used to
give the email address but I can't seem to find it now.

This is the first person I've ever seen with the last name of my family
besides me.  I really need to connect with this person.

Liz

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My great grandfather Manuel Rose listed on 1910 census at Pierce street in East Providence, RI - Brick Wall

[Cheri Mello]

Jennea,
Here's a whole how-to of what you should do on the America side to find a
document with your island and hopefully your freguesia: goo.gl/ToCPC0
Good Luck, Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Bretanha baptism 1871 - Alminda Benevides

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

It looks like dezanove de Marco to me. I could be wrong.
JMR
 

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:29 AM, Joanne Mercier 
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 #yiv6467042821 body{font-family:Helvetica, 
Arial;font-size:13px;}http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1870-1879_item1/P63.html

Fading pages and fading eyesight don’t mesh sometimes. I think the baptism date 
is 7 May 1871 but I cannot make out the birth date at all before the parents’ 
names. If someone can decipher this for me I would be grateful. 
Thanks!Joanne Grota Mercier
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Bretanha baptism 1871 - Alminda Benevides

[Joanne Mercier]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1870-1879_item1/P63.html


Fading pages and fading eyesight don’t mesh sometimes. I think the baptism
date is 7 May 1871 but I cannot make out the birth date at all before the
parents’ names. If someone can decipher this for me I would be grateful.

Thanks!
Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My great grandfather Manuel Rose listed on 1910 census at Pierce street in East Providence, RI - Brick Wall

[Judi Phillips]

Jenna,
If you are on Ancestry, look at the city directories.  Many of them have dates 
of death.  If you live in East Providence, go to the Weaver Library and ask to 
see the East Providence city directories.  They have a large selection, again 
with dates of death.  The RI state archives on Westminster Street, Providence 
should have death certificates for Manuel as well as birth/death records for 
his children.  
Good luck
Judi

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On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Jennea Nunes-Rose- Young  
wrote:

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> Hello all,
> 
>   I have been digging for several months to locate my great grandfather, 
> Manuel Rose. I believe he married a Mary/Maria Fonseca born in New Bedford 
> about 1877. Her first marriage may have been to a Joseph neves.
> 
> I have found mary/Maria and Manuel together only once on the 1910 census in 
> East Providence, RI. On the 1920 census Mary Rose lists herslf as a widow. I 
> have not been able to pinpoint his death year or location. They have the 
> following children from their union:
> 
> 
> John Rose b.1906/07 died 1935 in Providence, RI
> Lewis/Louis b.1908described as a hobo. He lived under the fox point 
> bridge at times, was a light drinker, never married, he played the accordian 
> and was able to speak French! possible mental illness
> Flora? died in childhood?
> Lena b.1909/1910
> Jennie Mae Rose b. 9/24/1911 (my paternal grandmother)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Please 
> help, I want to understand my lineage
> 
>   
>  
> Jennea Nunes Rose- Young
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