Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread Kathy Cardoza 
Yes, that definitely was my experience with The Freitas Library. They don’t 
seem to be at all interested in genealogy research. For the UPEC, now something 
else, they are a business, dealing with insurance. Sadly, it doesn’t seem that 
the old records mean anything to them.

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
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> Exactly!! That's why I've been giving this a lot of thought!! The Freitas 
> Library was not helpful at all when Kathy needed some help on another matter 
> a couple of years ago. They could have cared less about helping 
> researchers.I say that because they would give her lip service when she 
> approached them numerous times but NEVER get back to her:( 
> Susan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
> 
>> Someone will put them away, then there will be a new committee the next year 
>> and they will move the books and the following year someone else will move 
>> the books, then the next committee will not know what to do with such "old" 
>> things and through them away. You just don't know what decision that someone 
>> will make. And if you go to ask to view them? They won't know who's on first.
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
Exactly!! That's why I've been giving this a lot of thought!! The Freitas 
Library was not helpful at all when Kathy needed some help on another matter a 
couple of years ago. They could have cared less about helping researchers.I 
say that because they would give her lip service when she approached them 
numerous times but NEVER get back to her:( 
Susan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Someone will put them away, then there will be a new committee the next year 
> and they will move the books and the following year someone else will move 
> the books, then the next committee will not know what to do with such "old" 
> things and through them away. You just don't know what decision that someone 
> will make. And if you go to ask to view them? They won't know who's on first.
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:04 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Because that group joined Luso, it could make sense that they MIGHT want to 
>> have the old books.  However, I don't know if they are interested so maybe 
>> something like the Freitas Library would make sense.
>> Celeste
>> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 3/19/17, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
>> 
>>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>>  To: "azores" 
>>  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 5:58 PM
>> 
>>  Susan and Celeste,
>>  My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos
>>  Sousa was a member and for many years, an officer of Council
>>  42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her
>>  death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one
>>  from 1916 to 1924  and the other from 1934 to 1941.
>>  Wondering to which organization I should donate them to,
>>  John Vasconcelos
>> 
>>  On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at
>>  5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do
>>  Estado do California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal
>>  organization (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I
>>  put into a database.  I think the S.P.R.S.I. joined
>>  Luso.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one
>>  other organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal
>>  Society of America.)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I.,
>>  (probably 20 years ago) I was told the "old"
>>  records were somewhere in their basement and they could not
>>  locate them.
>> 
>>  Celeste
>> 
>>  Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>  On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello
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>>   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
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>>   To: azores@googlegroups.com
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>>   Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Celeste Perry had some,
>> 
>>   but I don't remember which ladies organization.
>> 
>>   Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>> 
>>   On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
>> 
>>   AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
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>>   Does anyone know if and
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>>   where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
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>>   My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
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>>   Thank you!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello 
Someone will put them away, then there will be a new committee the next
year and they will move the books and the following year someone else will
move the books, then the next committee will not know what to do with such
"old" things and through them away. You just don't know what decision that
someone will make. And if you go to ask to view them? They won't know who's
on first.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:04 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Because that group joined Luso, it could make sense that they MIGHT want
> to have the old books.  However, I don't know if they are interested so
> maybe something like the Freitas Library would make sense.
> Celeste
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> 
> On Sun, 3/19/17, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>  To: "azores" 
>  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 5:58 PM
>
>  Susan and Celeste,
>  My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos
>  Sousa was a member and for many years, an officer of Council
>  42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her
>  death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one
>  from 1916 to 1924  and the other from 1934 to 1941.
>  Wondering to which organization I should donate them to,
>  John Vasconcelos
>
>  On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at
>  5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
>
>
>  The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do
>  Estado do California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal
>  organization (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I
>  put into a database.  I think the S.P.R.S.I. joined
>  Luso.
>
>
>
>   The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one
>  other organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal
>  Society of America.)
>
>
>
>  The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I.,
>  (probably 20 years ago) I was told the "old"
>  records were somewhere in their basement and they could not
>  locate them.
>
>  Celeste
>
>  Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
>
>
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>  On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello
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>   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
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>   To: azores@googlegroups.com
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>   Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
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>
>   Celeste Perry had some,
>
>   but I don't remember which ladies organization.
>
>   Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>
>   On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
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>   AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>
>   wrote:
>
>   Does anyone know if and
>
>   where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
>
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>   My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
>
>   state President at one time.
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>   Thank you!
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>   Lisa Caetano Harley
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>   researching Pico & Sao Jorge
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 

Because that group joined Luso, it could make sense that they MIGHT want to 
have the old books.  However, I don't know if they are interested so maybe 
something like the Freitas Library would make sense.  
Celeste
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Sun, 3/19/17, John Vasconcelos  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
 To: "azores" 
 Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 5:58 PM
 
 Susan and Celeste,
 My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos
 Sousa was a member and for many years, an officer of Council
 42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her
 death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one
 from 1916 to 1924  and the other from 1934 to 1941.
 Wondering to which organization I should donate them to,
 John Vasconcelos 
 
 On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at
 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
 
 
 The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do
 Estado do California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal
 organization (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I
 put into a database.  I think the S.P.R.S.I. joined
 Luso.
 
 
 
  The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one
 other organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal
 Society of America.)
 
 
 
 The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I.,
 (probably 20 years ago) I was told the "old"
 records were somewhere in their basement and they could not
 locate them.
 
 Celeste
 
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
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 On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
 
 
 
  Celeste Perry had some,
 
  but I don't remember which ladies organization.
 
  Hopefully she'll answer soon.
 
  On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
 
  AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
 
  wrote:
 
  Does anyone know if and
 
  where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
 
  state President at one time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Thank you!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Lisa Caetano Harley
 
 
 
  researching Pico & Sao Jorge
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 

That sounds correct to me.  Thanks for helping my "old" memory.
Celeste
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Sun, 3/19/17, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy  
wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 5:44 PM
 
 CeleseI think maybe
 the S.E.S also joined P.F.S.A.?
 
 Susan
 
 Sent
 from my iPhone
 
 > On Mar
 19, 2017, at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores
 Genealogy 
 wrote:
 > 
 > 
 > The death records for the Union Portuguese
 Protetorda do Estado do California (not sure of spelling) is
 the fraternal organization (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only
 organization I put into a database.  I think the S.P.R.S.I.
 joined Luso. 
 > 
 > The
 U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other
 organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society
 of America.)
 > 
 > The
 one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20
 years ago) I was told the "old" records were
 somewhere in their basement and they could not locate
 them.
 > Celeste
 >
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 > 
 >
 
 > On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:
 > 
 > Subject:
 Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
 >
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 > Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
 > 
 > Celeste Perry had
 some,
 > but I don't remember which
 ladies organization.
 > Hopefully
 she'll answer soon.
 > On Mar 19, 2017
 8:15
 > AM, "lisahbskt via Azores
 Genealogy" 
 > wrote:
 > Does anyone
 know if and
 > where any existing records
 for SPRSI might be found?
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > My great grandmother
 Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
 > state
 President at one time.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Thank you!
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Lisa Caetano Harley
 >
 
 > researching Pico & Sao Jorge
 > 
 > 
 > 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
Great idea Cheri!
Susan 

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> John, I think you should give them to me so I can take them to Salt Lake to 
> be filmed. Then they will have world wide distribution.
> 
> Cheri
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:32 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> I have been wondering the same thing John! I would not give them to these 
>> organizations that have taken in the SPRSI and the others (Luso and 
>> PFSA) I just don't think they will be interested in sharing the 
>> information with people who are searching. This is just my intuition, not 
>> based on any inquiry. I did try to find info on one of the men's groups once 
>> and the person I talked to was not cooperative.
>> 
>> I have thought about the Freitas Library as I think they allow others to 
>> look at them (I know Kathy Cardoza went there many years ago and got access 
>> to UPEC) 
>> I have also thought about the Portuguese History Museum in San Jose but 
>> don't know exactly what their focus is.
>> 
>> I'm leaning on giving what I have to the Museum of Local History in Mission 
>> San Jose as I like the idea of keeping them within the community where these 
>> women lived and think that those who are really interested will probably 
>> access their collection. 
>> 
>> I was responsible for my mom's cousin who died last year at age 95. She had 
>> all the scrap books and the flag used in parades and the regalia that they 
>> wore at meetings. I have already given them the flag and am making 
>> arrangements right now to give the regalia. I hope to give the books also 
>> but am not quite ready to give them up;)
>> 
>> I am concerned for the legacy of the books... That is why I bothered to 
>> carry them to Salt Lake to be microfilmed. That makes me feel good to know 
>> if someone really searches, they will find them! 
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:58 PM, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Susan and Celeste,
>>> My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos Sousa was a member and for many years, an 
>>> officer of Council 42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her 
>>> death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one from 1916 to 1924  
>>> and the other from 1934 to 1941. Wondering to which organization I should 
>>> donate them to,
>>> John Vasconcelos 
>>> 
 On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
  wrote:
 
 The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do 
 California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization 
 (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I put into a database.  I think 
 the S.P.R.S.I. joined Luso.
 
  The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other 
 organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)
 
 The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years 
 ago) I was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and 
 they could not locate them.
 Celeste
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 
 
 On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
 
  Celeste Perry had some,
  but I don't remember which ladies organization.
  Hopefully she'll answer soon.
  On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
  AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
  wrote:
  Does anyone know if and
  where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
 
 
 
 
  My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
  state President at one time.
 
 
 
 
 
  Thank you!
 
 
 
 
 
  Lisa Caetano Harley
 
  researching Pico & Sao Jorge
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello 
John, I think you should give them to me so I can take them to Salt Lake to
be filmed. Then they will have world wide distribution.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:32 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I have been wondering the same thing John! I would not give them to these
> organizations that have taken in the SPRSI and the others (Luso and
> PFSA) I just don't think they will be interested in sharing the
> information with people who are searching. This is just my intuition, not
> based on any inquiry. I did try to find info on one of the men's groups
> once and the person I talked to was not cooperative.
>
> I have thought about the Freitas Library as I think they allow others to
> look at them (I know Kathy Cardoza went there many years ago and got access
> to UPEC)
> I have also thought about the Portuguese History Museum in San Jose but
> don't know exactly what their focus is.
>
> I'm leaning on giving what I have to the Museum of Local History in
> Mission San Jose as I like the idea of keeping them within the community
> where these women lived and think that those who are really interested will
> probably access their collection.
>
> I was responsible for my mom's cousin who died last year at age 95. She
> had all the scrap books and the flag used in parades and the regalia that
> they wore at meetings. I have already given them the flag and am making
> arrangements right now to give the regalia. I hope to give the books also
> but am not quite ready to give them up;)
>
> I am concerned for the legacy of the books... That is why I bothered to
> carry them to Salt Lake to be microfilmed. That makes me feel good to know
> if someone really searches, they will find them!
>
> Susan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:58 PM, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
>
>
> *Susan and Celeste,*
>
> *My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos Sousa was a member and for many years, an
> officer of Council 42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her
> death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one from 1916 to 1924
> and the other from 1934 to 1941. Wondering to which organization I should
> donate them to,John Vasconcelos *
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do
>> California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization
>> (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I put into a database.  I think
>> the S.P.R.S.I. joined Luso.
>>
>>  The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other
>> organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)
>>
>> The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years
>> ago) I was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and they
>> could not locate them.
>> Celeste
>> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>>
>> 
>> On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>>  To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
>>
>>  Celeste Perry had some,
>>  but I don't remember which ladies organization.
>>  Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>>  On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
>>  AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>>  wrote:
>>  Does anyone know if and
>>  where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
>>  state President at one time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Lisa Caetano Harley
>>
>>  researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Off Line

2017-03-19 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel 
Thank you Joao that is helpful.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
João Ventura
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Off Line

 

:(

 

I did something a few weeks ago, mostly for the continental Archives, but it 
seems it might be useful to track the CCA after all: 
https://status.tombo.pt/?page=2

 

And in specific the CCA details: https://status.tombo.pt/778734960

 

João Ventura

http://tombo.pt/en


On Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:52:44 UTC, Louie Avila wrote:

Done

 

On Mar 18, 2017 11:44 PM, "Cheri Mello"  
wrote:

Report it here:
drac...@azores.gov.pt  

Always thank them for their valuable database, etc, then let them know that 
it's down. Writing in English is OK.




Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

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Here we go again ... :'(

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Off Line

2017-03-19 Thread João Ventura 
:(

I did something a few weeks ago, mostly for the continental Archives, but 
it seems it might be useful to track the CCA after 
all: https://status.tombo.pt/?page=2

And in specific the CCA details: https://status.tombo.pt/778734960

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en

On Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:52:44 UTC, Louie Avila wrote:
>
> Done
>
> On Mar 18, 2017 11:44 PM, "Cheri Mello"  
> wrote:
>
>> Report it here:
>> drac...@azores.gov.pt 
>>
>> Always thank them for their valuable database, etc, then let them know 
>> that it's down. Writing in English is OK.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Louie Avila > > wrote:
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
Hi John,

I have been wondering the same thing John! I would not give them to these 
organizations that have taken in the SPRSI and the others (Luso and PFSA) I 
just don't think they will be interested in sharing the information with people 
who are searching. This is just my intuition, not based on any inquiry. I did 
try to find info on one of the men's groups once and the person I talked to was 
not cooperative.

I have thought about the Freitas Library as I think they allow others to look 
at them (I know Kathy Cardoza went there many years ago and got access to UPEC) 
I have also thought about the Portuguese History Museum in San Jose but don't 
know exactly what their focus is.

I'm leaning on giving what I have to the Museum of Local History in Mission San 
Jose as I like the idea of keeping them within the community where these women 
lived and think that those who are really interested will probably access their 
collection. 

I was responsible for my mom's cousin who died last year at age 95. She had all 
the scrap books and the flag used in parades and the regalia that they wore at 
meetings. I have already given them the flag and am making arrangements right 
now to give the regalia. I hope to give the books also but am not quite ready 
to give them up;)

I am concerned for the legacy of the books... That is why I bothered to carry 
them to Salt Lake to be microfilmed. That makes me feel good to know if someone 
really searches, they will find them! 

Susan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:58 PM, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
> 
> Susan and Celeste,
> My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos Sousa was a member and for many years, an 
> officer of Council 42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her 
> death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one from 1916 to 1924  
> and the other from 1934 to 1941. Wondering to which organization I should 
> donate them to,
> John Vasconcelos 
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do 
>> California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization (U.P.P.E.C.) 
>> and was the only organization I put into a database.  I think the S.P.R.S.I. 
>> joined Luso.
>> 
>>  The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other 
>> organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)
>> 
>> The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years ago) 
>> I was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and they could 
>> not locate them.
>> Celeste
>> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>>  To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
>> 
>>  Celeste Perry had some,
>>  but I don't remember which ladies organization.
>>  Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>>  On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
>>  AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>>  wrote:
>>  Does anyone know if and
>>  where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
>>  state President at one time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Thank you!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Lisa Caetano Harley
>> 
>>  researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread John Vasconcelos 
*Susan and Celeste,*

*My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos Sousa was a member and for many years, an
officer of Council 42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her
death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one from 1916 to 1924
and the other from 1934 to 1941. Wondering to which organization I should
donate them to,John Vasconcelos *

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do
> California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization
> (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I put into a database.  I think
> the S.P.R.S.I. joined Luso.
>
>  The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other
> organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)
>
> The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years
> ago) I was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and they
> could not locate them.
> Celeste
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> 
> On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>  To: azores@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
>
>  Celeste Perry had some,
>  but I don't remember which ladies organization.
>  Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>  On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
>  AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>  wrote:
>  Does anyone know if and
>  where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
>
>
>
>
>  My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
>  state President at one time.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
>  Lisa Caetano Harley
>
>  researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
I agree with what Susan says about the individual council record books.  The 
members who had "insurance" policies were noted in the membership death record 
book (for the U.P.P.E.C.).  I was able to extract all of the death records of 
their members almost from the beginning of the organization.  I was told that 
the "first book" was burned in a fire when the Supreme Secretary's had a fire 
at her home where the books were kept at that time.  

Since U.P.P.E.C. joined with P.F.S.A. I have been told that they are no longer 
able to let me do that because of "privacy" issues.  The information I 
extracted is from 1905 to May, 2009.  
Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:57 PM
 
 Celeste
 has UPPEC death records I believe.
 I have the membership
 book from one councilvery small, #84 Warm Springs CA
 (now part of Fremont).
 You could call the main
 office and see if they have contact info for the council
 that was located where your ancestor lived. SPRSI has been
 taken in by Luso-American Life Insurance Society, 7080
 Donlon Way Suite 200,Dublin, CaWww.luso-American.org877-525-LUSO 
 I'd be interested
 to hear what you find out. 
 I have a hunch each of
 the councils were not organized with what they did with
 their membership rosters. I am just guessing from my
 experience with #84. 
 I took 84 membership
 book and their minutes to Salt Lake City and had them
 microfilmed some years back.
 Susan Vargas
 Murphy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Mar 19,
 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:
 
 Celeste Perry had some, but I
 don't remember which ladies organization. Hopefully
 she'll answer soon.
 On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
 AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
 wrote:
 Does anyone know if and
 where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
 
 
 
 
 My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
 state President at one time.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you!
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
CeleseI think maybe the S.E.S also joined P.F.S.A.?

Susan

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do California 
> (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the 
> only organization I put into a database.  I think the S.P.R.S.I. joined Luso. 
> 
> The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other organization 
> became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)
> 
> The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years ago) I 
> was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and they could 
> not locate them.
> Celeste
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
> 
> Celeste Perry had some,
> but I don't remember which ladies organization.
> Hopefully she'll answer soon.
> On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
> AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
> wrote:
> Does anyone know if and
> where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
> state President at one time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Caetano Harley
> 
> researching Pico & Sao Jorge
> 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 

The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do California 
(not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the 
only organization I put into a database.  I think the S.P.R.S.I. joined Luso. 

 The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other organization 
became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)

The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years ago) I 
was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and they could not 
locate them.
Celeste
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
 
 Celeste Perry had some,
 but I don't remember which ladies organization.
 Hopefully she'll answer soon.
 On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
Yes only women. I will check for Rose Coelho (nee Fraga). 
Susan 

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:03 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Susan;  The SPRSI was women only, right?  By chance does your book hold any 
> record of my mom, Rose Coelho, nee Fraga?  I know my dad belonged to a 
> fraternal organization but; not sure if my mom did or not.  I think, not.
>  
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>  
> From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:58 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>  
> Celeste has UPPEC death records I believe.
>  
> I have the membership book from one councilvery small, #84 Warm Springs 
> CA (now part of Fremont).
>  
> You could call the main office and see if they have contact info for the 
> council that was located where your ancestor lived. SPRSI has been taken in 
> by Luso-American Life Insurance Society, 7080 Donlon Way Suite 200,Dublin, Ca
> Www.luso-American.org
> 877-525-LUSO 
>  
> I'd be interested to hear what you find out. 
>  
> I have a hunch each of the councils were not organized with what they did 
> with their membership rosters. I am just guessing from my experience with 
> #84. 
>  
> I took 84 membership book and their minutes to Salt Lake City and had them 
> microfilmed some years back.
>  
> Susan Vargas Murphy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Celeste Perry had some, but I don't remember which ladies organization. 
> Hopefully she'll answer soon.
> 
> On Mar 19, 2017 8:15 AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>  wrote:
> Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
>  
> My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one 
> time.
>  
> Thank you!
>  
> Lisa Caetano Harley
> researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>  
>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'Sam Koester' via Azores Genealogy 
Ok, thanks Cheri. Sam (Camas, WA)

  From: Cheri Mello 
 To: Azores Genealogy  
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 5:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
   
You can find the women mentioned as beneficiaries in their husband's UPEC 
records too.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:03 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Susan;  The SPRSI was women only, right?  By chance does your book hold any 
record of my mom, Rose Coelho, nee Fraga?  I know my dad belonged to a 
fraternal organization but; not sure if my mom did or not.  I think, not. Sam 
(Mazatlán, MX) From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:58 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records Celeste has UPPEC death records I 
believe. I have the membership book from one councilvery small, #84 Warm 
Springs CA (now part of Fremont). You could call the main office and see if 
they have contact info for the council that was located where your ancestor 
lived. SPRSI has been taken in by Luso-American Life Insurance Society, 7080 
Donlon Way Suite 200,Dublin, CaWww.luso-American.org877-525-LUSO  I'd be 
interested to hear what you find out.  I have a hunch each of the councils were 
not organized with what they did with their membership rosters. I am just 
guessing from my experience with #84.  I took 84 membership book and their 
minutes to Salt Lake City and had them microfilmed some years back. Susan 
Vargas Murphy

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On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
Celeste Perry had some, but I don't remember which ladies organization. 
Hopefully she'll answer soon.On Mar 19, 2017 8:15 AM, "lisahbskt via Azores 
Genealogy"  wrote:
Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?  
My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one time. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello 
You can find the women mentioned as beneficiaries in their husband's UPEC
records too.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:03 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Susan;  The SPRSI was women only, right?  By chance does your book hold
> any record of my mom, Rose Coelho, nee Fraga?  I know my dad belonged to a
> fraternal organization but; not sure if my mom did or not.  I think, not.
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
> *Sent: *Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:58 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>
>
>
> Celeste has UPPEC death records I believe.
>
>
>
> I have the membership book from one councilvery small, #84 Warm
> Springs CA (now part of Fremont).
>
>
>
> You could call the main office and see if they have contact info for the
> council that was located where your ancestor lived. SPRSI has been taken in
> by Luso-American Life Insurance Society, 7080 Donlon Way Suite 200,Dublin,
> Ca
>
> Www.luso-American.org 
>
> 877-525-LUSO
>
>
>
> I'd be interested to hear what you find out.
>
>
>
> I have a hunch each of the councils were not organized with what they did
> with their membership rosters. I am just guessing from my experience with
> #84.
>
>
>
> I took 84 membership book and their minutes to Salt Lake City and had them
> microfilmed some years back.
>
>
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Celeste Perry had some, but I don't remember which ladies organization.
> Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>
> On Mar 19, 2017 8:15 AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be
> found?
>
>
>
> My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one
> time.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> Lisa Caetano Harley
>
> researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>
>
>
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
Susan;  The SPRSI was women only, right?  By chance does your book hold any 
record of my mom, Rose Coelho, nee Fraga?  I know my dad belonged to a 
fraternal organization but; not sure if my mom did or not.  I think, not.

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:58 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

Celeste has UPPEC death records I believe.

I have the membership book from one councilvery small, #84 Warm Springs CA 
(now part of Fremont).

You could call the main office and see if they have contact info for the 
council that was located where your ancestor lived. SPRSI has been taken in by 
Luso-American Life Insurance Society, 7080 Donlon Way Suite 200,Dublin, Ca
Www.luso-American.org
877-525-LUSO 

I'd be interested to hear what you find out. 

I have a hunch each of the councils were not organized with what they did with 
their membership rosters. I am just guessing from my experience with #84. 

I took 84 membership book and their minutes to Salt Lake City and had them 
microfilmed some years back.

Susan Vargas Murphy


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
Celeste Perry had some, but I don't remember which ladies organization. 
Hopefully she'll answer soon.
On Mar 19, 2017 8:15 AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
 wrote:
Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be found? 

My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one time.

Thank you!

Lisa Caetano Harley
researching Pico & Sao Jorge


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
Celeste has UPPEC death records I believe.

I have the membership book from one councilvery small, #84 Warm Springs CA 
(now part of Fremont).

You could call the main office and see if they have contact info for the 
council that was located where your ancestor lived. SPRSI has been taken in by 
Luso-American Life Insurance Society, 7080 Donlon Way Suite 200,Dublin, Ca
Www.luso-American.org
877-525-LUSO 

I'd be interested to hear what you find out. 

I have a hunch each of the councils were not organized with what they did with 
their membership rosters. I am just guessing from my experience with #84. 

I took 84 membership book and their minutes to Salt Lake City and had them 
microfilmed some years back.

Susan Vargas Murphy


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Celeste Perry had some, but I don't remember which ladies organization. 
> Hopefully she'll answer soon.
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017 8:15 AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>>  wrote:
>> Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
>> 
>> My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one 
>> time.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Lisa Caetano Harley
>> researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread luiznoia . 
You can find a lot of fraternal society news in local newspapers.
Newspaper.com, and California Digital Newspaper Collection are good sources.
Searching by your person's name in a specific paper is the most effective
way.

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> Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be
> found?
>
> My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one
> time.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Lisa Caetano Harley
> researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello 
Celeste Perry had some, but I don't remember which ladies organization.
Hopefully she'll answer soon.
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> Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be
> found?
>
> My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one
> time.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Lisa Caetano Harley
> researching Pico & Sao Jorge
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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA

2017-03-19 Thread Pat Mello 
Hi I'm trying to get on CCA site and It's not working. I'm wondering if 
it's down. I was on it yesterday morning but then it wouldn't work after 
lunch. 

Thanks Pat

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose de Medeiros of Ilha Sao Miguel

2017-03-19 Thread Paul 
Thanks JR. I did find the following baptism record in 1832 Mae de Deus:

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1829-1835/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1829-1835_item1/P83.html
 
(left page)

Parent names match, but I do not see the grandparent names. Maybe the 
family did not want them listed or the priest forgot to write them. I will 
be double checking those early 1829 records though.

Paul G.

On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 12:00:48 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>
> I don't have the baptism of Jose, but I think you will find it about one 
> year after Antonio and Bernanrdina married in late 1828. That would make 
> him about 20 years old.
>
>  
>
> *Ancestors of Jose de Medeiros*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Generation No. 1*
>
>  
>
> *1.*  *Jose de Medeiros,* born in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  He was 
> the son of *2. Antonio de Medeiros* and *3. Bernardina or Bernarda 
> Francisca de Resendes*.  He married *(1) Ana Jacinta* 04 Jan 1849 in 
> Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  She was born in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  She was the 
> daughter of Francisco de Melo and Quiteria Maria or Maria Quiteria.
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for Jose Medeiros and Ana:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854_item1/P111.html
>
>  
>
> *Generation No. 2*
>
>  
>
> *2.*  *Antonio de Medeiros,* born in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  He 
> was the son of Andre de Medeiros and Ana Francisca de Jesus.  He married *3. 
> Bernardina or Bernarda Francisca de Resendes* 01 Nov 1828 in Povoacao, 
> Mae de Deus.
>
> *3.*  *Bernardina or Bernarda Francisca de Resendes,* born in 
> Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  She was the daughter of Joao de Almeida Resendes 
> and Laureana Francisca.
>
>  
>
> Notes for Bernardina or Bernarda Francisca de Resendes:
>
> She married with name Bernardina Francisca de Rezende
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for Antonio Medeiros and Bernardina Resendes:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840_item1/P55.html
>
> 
>
> Child of Antonio Medeiros and Bernardina Resendes is:
>
> 1 i.Jose de Medeiros, born in Povoacao, Mae de 
> Deus; married Ana Jacinta 04 Jan 1849 in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 12:41:01 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> I have been trying to find the baptism record of my 5th great uncle Jose 
>> de Medeiros. So far the only item I have been able to find if the marriage 
>> record to my 5th great aunt Anna de Jesus.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854_item1/P111.html
>>  
>> (right side)
>>
>> This record is a bit light and hard to read. I have tried everything I 
>> could to be able to read the record.
>>
>> Jose's parents are Antonio de Medeiros & Bernardina de Resendes. This 
>> information came from the above marriage record and his son's baptism 
>> record. The marriage record states that both families are from Mae de Deus, 
>> but I have yet to find Jose's baptism record (back to 1815). Nor have I 
>> been able to locate his parents marriage record. 
>>
>> Does the marriage record list another village Jose is from, or his age at 
>> the time he was married?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul G
>>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meeting List Members

2017-03-19 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
That's great, Lisa! Always fun to put a face to a name with our genealogy
groups!! That's what is so fun in SLC, finally meeting everyone you've been
'talking' to for years.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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> Yesterday while attending the DNA Interest Group for the North San Diego
> Co. Genealogy Society at a Carlsbad library, I had the pleasure of meeting
> Kathleen Fernandes and George Marshall who are list members.
>
> Nice to meet you both and hope I got your names correct!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Meeting List Members

2017-03-19 Thread lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy 
Yesterday while attending the DNA Interest Group for the North San Diego Co. 
Genealogy Society at a Carlsbad library, I had the pleasure of meeting Kathleen 
Fernandes and George Marshall who are list members.


Nice to meet you both and hope I got your names correct!


Lisa Caetano Harley
researching Pico & Sao Jorge

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[AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-19 Thread lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy 
Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?


My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one time.


Thank you!


Lisa Caetano Harley
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Off Line

2017-03-19 Thread Louie Avila 
Done

On Mar 18, 2017 11:44 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> Report it here:
> drac@azores.gov.pt
>
> Always thank them for their valuable database, etc, then let them know
> that it's down. Writing in English is OK.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Louie Avila 
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>> Here we go again ... :'(
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Off Line

2017-03-19 Thread Cheri Mello 
Report it here:
drac@azores.gov.pt

Always thank them for their valuable database, etc, then let them know that
it's down. Writing in English is OK.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Louie Avila 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Off Line

2017-03-19 Thread Louie Avila 
Here we go again ... :'(

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