[AZORES-Genealogy] "New Bedford and Fall River Vital Records to 1968"

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I was talking to a friend about the New Bedford info on vitals. I work at
the FHC here in Seaside I thought that some of these records were
available  for later dates,this is what he wrote:

Familysearch, Ancestry, and other websites have Massachusetts Birth,
Marriage, and Death Records available until around 1915 with actual images
of the records.  Records going up to 1920 (an extra 5 years) are available
online in one Familysearch Collection "Massachusetts State Vital Records,
1841-1920".  Many of the records from 1915-1920 are online but not indexed.
You can browse through the images by date city and date and find the
records that you are looking for that way. There* are* many indexes
available for the later years such as some Massachusetts Death Indexes on
Ancestry that span from 1901-1980 and 1970-2003, but these do not include
the actual records.

While they have not been digitized as of yet, the LDS church has microfilms
of the *Fall River AND New Bedford Birth & Marriage Certificates all the
way to 1968*!  I have a cousin who works in the Salt Lake City library.
She looked at the films for me and confirmed that these are indeed the
actual certificates, and are complete for the whole town. There are
typescript indexes on each film.  She also told me that because the
material is so recent and would contain living people, they will most
likely not become available online anytime in the near future.
Apparently FamilySearch
has also them earmarked for "no circulation" and the post 1915 records are
not available at any Family History Center other than in Salt Lake City.
Even back when you could request microfilms be sent out to your local
center these were not available.

With the upcoming Salt Lake City trip, perhaps someone will want to check
those films.

You can get a list of the microfilm numbers and coverage here:

Fall River Microfilms: https://www.familysearch.org/search/
catalog/234068?availability=Family%20History%20Library
New Bedford Microfilms: https://www.familysearch.org/search/
catalog/819611?availability=Family%20History%20Library

I have many ancestors in Massachusetts on all sides of my family - most of
whom resided there since the early/mid 1600s.  I can tell you with great
certainty that this is relatively unique, and does not apply to the vast
majority of Massachusetts towns.

So, like many other records, you can see them in Salt Lake City but not
anywhere else! Even the Portuguese records of the Azores which the Family
History Library has digitized can only be accessed online if you have an
LDS person sign you in on the
computer

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com 
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage of Francisco Jose Cordeiro and Maria Isabel

[bsei2816]

I found a marriage this morning that I've been trying to find for about 
three years.  An Urzelina, Sao Jorge baptism from 1852 said they married on 
Sao Miguel Island but didn't name a freguesia. I found it in Sao Sebastiao, 
Ponta Delgada.

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854_item1/P121.html*
 

 
(starts bottom left and continues on right)

The groom is from Sao Mateus da Praia, Graciosa and the bride from Santo 
Amaro, Sao Jorge.  I now know that they married in July 1849 in Ponta 
Delgada (Sao Sebastiao); had a son Manuel born five months later in Praia, 
Graciosa; and a son born in Urzelina, Sao Jorge in 1852 (who died after 
four months) and another (my wife's great grandfather) in Urzelina in 1854.

There is text beginning on line 5 and continuing on the next page that I 
think is saying that a ruling was made that nothing resulted in impediments 
and this document was deposited in the archive of this matrix but I'm not 
sure I fully get it.  Is there anything of importance here?

Thanks for any help.

Bill Seidler



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dispensations

[JR]

Hey, thanks for all that information. I have some early ancestors in Ponta 
Garca that received dispensations in pre and early 1700's stating 4th 
degree consanguinity. If ever I found the document that could take some of 
my ancestors back to 1600 or before. Maybe one day...

JR

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 5:01:47 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> For those interested in the dispensations:
>
> A dispensation is what a couple needed to obtain when they were going to 
> marry a relative. The dispensation should contain interviews with the 
> couple and how they are related (will state the lineage).
>
> Because the Diocese for the Azores is in Angra, the dispensations are 
> housed in the Angra archive. 
>
> The dispensations are very hit and miss. I'd say more on the "miss" side. 
> They have only what they have. Many dispensations no longer exist.
>
> The first photo (80244) shows the request I made to see some 
> dispensations. They call them "Dispensations of Matrimony" so that is what 
> I called them. I am in their country, so I write in Portuguese. I include 
> the island and the years I want. Not all years exist.
>
> The next photo (92811) shows how the dispensations come. They are bound up 
> in packets, tied with a cotton ribbon. You can see a couple of other 
> packets to the side.
>
> Photo 920845 shows what it looks like when you open the packet. There's a 
> stack of dispensations. They are chronological. You have to look through 
> them.
>
> Photo 92945 shows a later dispensation. It names the bride and groom and 
> to the right, states the degree. The left states the church. The older ones 
> are not as nice as this. Some are a few pages and some are many pages. They 
> all varied.
>
> Photo 94345 shows 50 years of dispensations on Pico. The third most 
> populated island. That's not the much considering how intermarried the 
> Azoreans are.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Francisca daughter of Joao de Viveiros (Mosteiros) and Maria da Conceicao (Ginetes)

[Hana Johnson]

Thank you very much!

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 1:28 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Maternal granddaughter of avo incognito and of Josefa do Nascimentto (sic).
>
> Both grandpa and grandma unknown would be avoS incognitoS.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Hana Johnson  wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm having trouble making out the words of the following baptism record
>> of Francisca, left side of page, second entry, lines 9 and 10.
>>
>> On line #9 I believe that it states that the maternal grandfather (or
>> grandparents) is/are unknown and then there is the name Jozefa da
>> ?
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819_item1/P81.html
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Hana Johnson
>>
>> Researching Vieira (Vierra) of Ginetes and Sete-Cidades
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Francisca daughter of Joao de Viveiros (Mosteiros) and Maria da Conceicao (Ginetes)

[Cheri Mello]

Maternal granddaughter of avo incognito and of Josefa do Nascimentto (sic).

Both grandpa and grandma unknown would be avoS incognitoS.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Hana Johnson  wrote:

>
> I'm having trouble making out the words of the following baptism record of
> Francisca, left side of page, second entry, lines 9 and 10.
>
> On line #9 I believe that it states that the maternal grandfather (or
> grandparents) is/are unknown and then there is the name Jozefa da
> ?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819_item1/P81.html
>
> Thank you,
> Hana Johnson
>
> Researching Vieira (Vierra) of Ginetes and Sete-Cidades
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Francisca daughter of Joao de Viveiros (Mosteiros) and Maria da Conceicao (Ginetes)

[Hana Johnson]

I'm having trouble making out the words of the following baptism record of 
Francisca, left side of page, second entry, lines 9 and 10.

On line #9 I believe that it states that the maternal grandfather (or 
grandparents) is/are unknown and then there is the name Jozefa da 
?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819_item1/P81.html

Thank you,
Hana Johnson

Researching Vieira (Vierra) of Ginetes and Sete-Cidades

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Inventories (Inventarios) and wills

[Cheri Mello]

While I was in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, I made extensive use of
the inventories or wills. I was able to find them on the Archives Catalog
at http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/  I don't know how to find them for
other islands. I don't think the other archives entered them or perhaps the
inventories or wills are not housed at the other archives.

The inventories and wills varied a lot and from time period to time period.
The more recent ones were better, as they were more organized and followed
a format.

They started with a cover page, naming the deceased and who was in charge
of their inventory. Some had maybe 7 pieces of paper (so potentially 14
pages of information). Some had 144 pieces of paper (288 pages of
information). The more "recent" ones (1920s forward) had a copy of the
death certificate with the cause of death listed. Or the best that medicine
knew for that time period. They named children, grandchildren,
great-grandchildren if they had any. If you can read the births and
marriages, then you already know the words of "filhos" and "netos."
"Bisnetos" are the great-grandchildren. Some listed relatives on the
paternal side "pelo lado paterno" or the maternal side "pelo lada materna,"
Anytime I saw the word "familia" I scanned the page. Some listed what I
believe were people they owed. Some listed what they owned, as in the
furnishings and whatnot. My 2 great-grandmother's had a declaration from
her husband. I don't know what it says yet. I'm waiting on my cousin to
tell me. And there was a lot of legal stuff in there too.

The earliest will/inventory that I looked at was from 1807. Some exist from
the 1700s.

Not every ancestor will have an inventory or will. You didn't need to own
property to have an will or inventory. As I said, it appeared that one guy
owed a lot of people a lot of money.

They allowed me to take pictures with my camera (found out I need a
different pair of reading glasses to take pictures). They said that the
inventories are NEVER to be posted anywhere on the Internet. That means
Ancestry.com, Geni.com, My Heritage, FamilySearch.org, your own personal
page, etc. They consider the inventories private Yes, I understand that if
the person died in 1807, no one alive today was mentioned in that will. But
they have their rules. I said it was going to be left on my computer so I
could consult it. I would extract only genealogy information from the
documents, but would never post an image of any them. So for those
utilizing the inventories/wills, do NOT post them ANYWHERE on the Internet
or you mess it up for future genealogists.

Hopefully the other archives will get their inventories/wills up on the
Archives Catalog.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Archives Catalog

[Cheri Mello]

 The librarian told me that is the Archives Catalog. For all 3 archives:
http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/

I google: archeevo azores
and it pulls it up.

She said it's the "Archives Catalog." So we can quit calling it the "Secret
Site" or the "Back Door." It's their Archives Catalog. Now we have the
correct terminology.

I really don't think this is complete. I can pull up the inventories and
wills, but it only pulls up Sao Miguel residents.

When searching, you don't need diacritics (the accented marks) and you can
use quotes. If you are looking for information for anyone who lived in São
Pedro on Santa Maria island, you can search "sao pedro" "santa maria" and
it will pull it up. If you put just "sao pedro" only, you'd get anything
from any church named São Pedro anywhere in the Azores. So use quotes.

For those who have never taken an Internet class: Quotes keep a series of
words together. "george washington" will turn up things on people named
George Washington. A search for: george washington
Will turn up George Smith who went to Seattle, Washington. (This is an
example. Don't search the Azorean Archives Catalog for George Washington).

Also, they have special searches. I asked the librarian for Ernesto do
Canto's index (it's a Sao Miguel thing), but the way I wrote it on the
request wasn't right. She searched the above site and put "ec" in there.
How would I know to use abbreviations? So there's stuff that they are
trained in and they know better how to search.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

[Cory G.]

Thanks Cheri very informative :) Also thanks for the name change that will 
definitely help.

Thanks again

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 1:15:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Cory G,
>
> She's probably Maria Estrella da Costa (or would be in the Portuguese 
> records).
>
> I don't understand why you say that you don't know where she is from but 
> then go on to say most of your family is from Arrifes and Lagoa.
>
> Here's a list of things to look into (a how-to from the Azores GenWeb): 
> https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar 
>
> You could write or call Santo Cristo in Fall River and ask them for a copy 
> of what is in the book (if they cannot photocopy it, maybe they can take a 
> picture on a cell and text it to you). I can't remember if Massachusetts 
> falls under the 90 year rule (if so, you should be able to obtain it) or 
> the 100 year rule (you'd have to wait until next year). You want what is in 
> the book, as the bride may have stated the village where she was from. 
> Maybe they can just tell you that part over the phone.
>
> The U.S. Censuses will give her year of immigration and naturalization. If 
> she did not naturalize and lived until 1940, she had to file the paperwork 
> for the Smith Act/Alien Registration. Immigration, naturalization, and 
> alien registration are things to look into as well. IF (giant IF) she is 
> consistent on her immigration year, you *might* be able to find her 
> emigrating from the Azores - IF (giant IF) the records exist.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Cory G. > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is 
>> all but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one 
>> specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella 
>> Raposa Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa 
>> Barbosa.
>>
>> I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I 
>> don't know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where. 
>> Most of my side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record 
>> of her there as far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.
>>
>> I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the 
>> brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma
>>
>> Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where 
>> to search next and of course any help would be amazing.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Cory
>>
>> Her Page
>> https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

[Cory G.]

Thanks Rick I didn't know about that database to search thanks :)

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 2:01:34 PM UTC-4, Richard Frances Pimentel 
wrote:
>
> *Massachusetts vital records are available up to 1926 at the state 
> archives. You can search online up to the year 1910 at this site: 
> http://www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcsrch/SearchWelcome.html 
>   . The index 
> for the remaining years is at the archives in Boston (Near the JFK 
> Library). You can search on Family Search (LDS site) as well.  Santo Cristo 
> is part of the Fall River Diocese. The marriage record book is most likely 
> at the parish.  *
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:15 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.
>
>  
>
> Cory G,
>
>  
>
> She's probably Maria Estrella da Costa (or would be in the Portuguese 
> records).
>
>  
>
> I don't understand why you say that you don't know where she is from but 
> then go on to say most of your family is from Arrifes and Lagoa.
>
>  
>
> Here's a list of things to look into (a how-to from the Azores GenWeb): 
> https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar 
>
>  
>
> You could write or call Santo Cristo in Fall River and ask them for a copy 
> of what is in the book (if they cannot photocopy it, maybe they can take a 
> picture on a cell and text it to you). I can't remember if Massachusetts 
> falls under the 90 year rule (if so, you should be able to obtain it) or 
> the 100 year rule (you'd have to wait until next year). You want what is in 
> the book, as the bride may have stated the village where she was from. 
> Maybe they can just tell you that part over the phone.
>
>  
>
> The U.S. Censuses will give her year of immigration and naturalization. If 
> she did not naturalize and lived until 1940, she had to file the paperwork 
> for the Smith Act/Alien Registration. Immigration, naturalization, and 
> alien registration are things to look into as well. IF (giant IF) she is 
> consistent on her immigration year, you *might* be able to find her 
> emigrating from the Azores - IF (giant IF) the records exist.
>
>  
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Cory G. > 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is 
> all but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one 
> specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella 
> Raposa Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa 
> Barbosa.
>
> I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I 
> don't know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where. 
> Most of my side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record 
> of her there as far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.
>
> I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the 
> brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma
>
> Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where 
> to search next and of course any help would be amazing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cory
>
> Her Page
> https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nossa Senhora da Agua de Lupe, Graciosa

[bsei2816]

Very interesting; thank you Margaret for enlightening me.  

Bill

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Massachusetts vital records are available up to 1926 at the state archives. You 
can search online up to the year 1910 at this site: 
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcsrch/SearchWelcome.html  . The index for the 
remaining years is at the archives in Boston (Near the JFK Library). You can 
search on Family Search (LDS site) as well.  Santo Cristo is part of the Fall 
River Diocese. The marriage record book is most likely at the parish.  

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:15 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

 

Cory G,

 

She's probably Maria Estrella da Costa (or would be in the Portuguese records).

 

I don't understand why you say that you don't know where she is from but then 
go on to say most of your family is from Arrifes and Lagoa.

 

Here's a list of things to look into (a how-to from the Azores GenWeb): 
https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar 

 

You could write or call Santo Cristo in Fall River and ask them for a copy of 
what is in the book (if they cannot photocopy it, maybe they can take a picture 
on a cell and text it to you). I can't remember if Massachusetts falls under 
the 90 year rule (if so, you should be able to obtain it) or the 100 year rule 
(you'd have to wait until next year). You want what is in the book, as the 
bride may have stated the village where she was from. Maybe they can just tell 
you that part over the phone.

 

The U.S. Censuses will give her year of immigration and naturalization. If she 
did not naturalize and lived until 1940, she had to file the paperwork for the 
Smith Act/Alien Registration. Immigration, naturalization, and alien 
registration are things to look into as well. IF (giant IF) she is consistent 
on her immigration year, you *might* be able to find her emigrating from the 
Azores - IF (giant IF) the records exist.

 

Good luck,




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Cory G.  wrote:


Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is all 
but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one 
specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella Raposa 
Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa Barbosa.

I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I don't 
know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where. Most of my 
side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record of her there as 
far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.

I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the 
brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma

Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where to 
search next and of course any help would be amazing.

Thanks

Cory

Her Page
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Brickwall.

[Cheri Mello]

Your link works. We just have to sign into our Family Search account (if we
have one).

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Cory G.  wrote:

> Sorry link doesnt work
>
> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 1:04:56 PM UTC-4, Cory G. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is
>> all but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one
>> specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella
>> Raposa Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa
>> Barbosa.
>>
>> I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I
>> don't know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where.
>> Most of my side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record
>> of her there as far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.
>>
>> I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the
>> brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma
>>
>> Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where
>> to search next and of course any help would be amazing.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Cory
>>
>> Her Page
>> https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

[Cheri Mello]

Cory G,

She's probably Maria Estrella da Costa (or would be in the Portuguese
records).

I don't understand why you say that you don't know where she is from but
then go on to say most of your family is from Arrifes and Lagoa.

Here's a list of things to look into (a how-to from the Azores GenWeb):
https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar

You could write or call Santo Cristo in Fall River and ask them for a copy
of what is in the book (if they cannot photocopy it, maybe they can take a
picture on a cell and text it to you). I can't remember if Massachusetts
falls under the 90 year rule (if so, you should be able to obtain it) or
the 100 year rule (you'd have to wait until next year). You want what is in
the book, as the bride may have stated the village where she was from.
Maybe they can just tell you that part over the phone.

The U.S. Censuses will give her year of immigration and naturalization. If
she did not naturalize and lived until 1940, she had to file the paperwork
for the Smith Act/Alien Registration. Immigration, naturalization, and
alien registration are things to look into as well. IF (giant IF) she is
consistent on her immigration year, you *might* be able to find her
emigrating from the Azores - IF (giant IF) the records exist.

Good luck,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Cory G.  wrote:

>
> Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is
> all but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one
> specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella
> Raposa Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa
> Barbosa.
>
> I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I
> don't know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where.
> Most of my side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record
> of her there as far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.
>
> I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the
> brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma
>
> Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where
> to search next and of course any help would be amazing.
>
> Thanks
> Cory
>
> Her Page
> https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John's Cemetery Book (New Bedford, Massachusetts)

[Ken Costa]

Thanks,

I will mail a check out tomorrow to him.I really appreciate this.
 I have many family members buried in St. John's Cemetery and don't
know the plot.My own parents and grandparents are buried there.

Maggie Costa

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> The American Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society (APGHS)
> published the work of the Amarals (Gil and Pat, I think), who walked the St.
> John's Cemetery in New Bedford, Massachusetts and recorded the tombstones.
> For those who don't know, St. John the Baptist Church was the first
> Portuguese Catholic Church in the United States (it has since closed). The
> cemetery associated with this church has many Portuguese people.
>
> Ernest Cardoza was the last president of the APGHS before they closed shop.
> He kept the remaining books in his attic. He has found 3 boxes and only
> opened one. It had 12 books in it. He does not know how many books are in
> the remaining boxes.
>
> If you would like a book, it's $30 and includes postage. Even though the
> APGHS no longer is in business, he kept their account open. So make a check
> for $30 to the APGHS and mail to:
> Ernest Cardoza
> 5 New Carver St.
> Raynham, MA 02767
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nossa Senhora da Agua de Lupe, Graciosa

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

What a great story, Margaret! Thank you for sharing, never knew the origin
of the name!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 5:39 AM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> The Priest sure knew.  The name Guadalupe, originally was - Agoa de Lupe
> and it has a story with it.
>
> There was this place where the wolves [lupe] prowled to catch their prey
> when they came to the water [agua] to drink.  They named it Agoa de Lupe
> {Wolves' water] and invoked our Lady as their protector. Nossa Senhora da
> Agua de Lupe.  Over time the two names were joined Agua+de+Lupe =
> Guadalupe.
>
> Cheers,
> Margaret
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 8:40 PM  wrote:
>
>> I found these in Ribeirinha, Terceira but I wasn't looking for a
>> freguesia called "Agua de Lupe" These are written by the same priest who
>> perhaps never heard of Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe.
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842_item1/P23.html*
>> 
>> (center right)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842_item1/P14.html*
>> 
>> (bottom right)
>>
>>
>> Bill Seidler
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nossa Senhora da Agua de Lupe, Graciosa

[Margaret Vicente]

Bill,

The Priest sure knew.  The name Guadalupe, originally was - Agoa de Lupe
and it has a story with it.

There was this place where the wolves [lupe] prowled to catch their prey
when they came to the water [agua] to drink.  They named it Agoa de Lupe
{Wolves' water] and invoked our Lady as their protector. Nossa Senhora da
Agua de Lupe.  Over time the two names were joined Agua+de+Lupe =
Guadalupe.

Cheers,
Margaret

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 8:40 PM  wrote:

> I found these in Ribeirinha, Terceira but I wasn't looking for a freguesia
> called "Agua de Lupe" These are written by the same priest who perhaps
> never heard of Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe.
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842_item1/P23.html*
> 
> (center right)
>
>
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842_item1/P14.html*
> 
> (bottom right)
>
>
> Bill Seidler
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