Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Azorean Island Girl Connie Raposo]

Gordon,
I think I have those name's on my family tree. Let me look into it and get
back to you.

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 4:28 PM Gordon soares  wrote:

> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t
> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>
>  Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing
> it is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>
> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who
> applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete
> the process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization
> papers that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find
> his ship or other immigration info for him. He came from Pico.
>
> Gordon
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Cheri Mello]

Paul,

Great, and be sure to join the Azores DNA Project on FTDNA (email me at
gfscherim at gmail.com if you need directions). And we play wait-and-see.
(The longest game ever invented).

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:05 PM Comcast  wrote:

> Thank, you for that info,and I sent my DNA  two weeks ago. Sorry to say
> but just myself and one cousin are the only ones left. All that I know is
> on her death certificate it says that she was from St. Michaels and there
> is no one I can turn to for any more info.
>
> Thanks Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> You have to have a freguesia in order to start researching over there. Sao
> Miguel island has over 70 churches to wade through.
>
> Have you tried every single thing here (and really, I mean every single
> thing):
>
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/
>
> It took me 4 years and 25 documents (going through every single thing I
> could find) before I figured out the freguesia. This was all B.C. though
> (Before Computers).
>
> And while you are trying every single thing, you need to do DNA. You just
> don't know what you don't know. Suppose your 2nd cousin once removed with a
> tree of 10,000 people took a DNA test? That cousin would have your
> freguesia and then you wouldn't have to go through every single suggestion
> and you could go straight to a freguesia. DNA is on sale this month too:
> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands
> You want the Family Finder test ($59 USD + $12.95 S&H - includes return
> postage back to the lab if you are a U.S. resident). If your mother is
> alive, test her. If she is not alive, test one of her siblings. If none of
> them are alive, test yourself.
>
> Good luck!
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Comcast  wrote:
>
>> I need help badly,and currently looking for my grandmother my mother's
>> mother who died here in the USA when my mother was 3 years old. All we know
>> about her from her death cert it says that Anna Cabral was the daughter of
>> Antonio Cabral Silva and Anna Luciana from St Michaels Azores and she was
>> born in 1879. I looked for her birth based on that info and came up empty.
>> Currently trying to find a marriage for Antonio and Anna Luciana. Thanks
>> for any help from anyone. My email is pj...@comcast.net
>>
>> Thanks,Paul
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Margaret Vicente 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mahalo, Rich.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just to say thank you.  The great thing about being in a group is that
>> all of the other members are also at a ready to help and assist.  There are
>> a few I could name 😊.   None-the-less your email is very  much
>> appreciated, thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy to assist if and when you will have a question.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Rich Mueller 
>> *Sent: *August 14, 2019 7:10 PM
>> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>>
>>
>>
>> Margaret, I haven't had to ask a question on my wife's side of our family
>> but I have noticed that you are absolutely amazing at helping folks when
>> they get stuck. Mahalo!
>>
>>
>>
>> *E malama pono*
>>
>> Rich Mueller
>>
>> *"Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can
>> work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those
>> acts will be written the history of this generation." - Robert F. Kennedy*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:30 PM Margaret Vicente <
>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gordon,
>>
>>
>>
>> Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html
>>
>>
>>
>> From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Gordon soares 
>> *Sent: *August 14, 2019 4:28 PM
>> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] help
>>
>>
>>
>> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t
>> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
>>
>> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing
>> it is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares
>> who applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t
>> complete the process since my grand

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Comcast]

Thank, you for that info,and I sent my DNA  two weeks ago. Sorry to say but 
just myself and one cousin are the only ones left. All that I know is on her 
death certificate it says that she was from St. Michaels and there is no one I 
can turn to for any more info.

Thanks Paul

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 15, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> You have to have a freguesia in order to start researching over there. Sao 
> Miguel island has over 70 churches to wade through.
> 
> Have you tried every single thing here (and really, I mean every single 
> thing):
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/
> 
> It took me 4 years and 25 documents (going through every single thing I could 
> find) before I figured out the freguesia. This was all B.C. though (Before 
> Computers). 
> 
> And while you are trying every single thing, you need to do DNA. You just 
> don't know what you don't know. Suppose your 2nd cousin once removed with a 
> tree of 10,000 people took a DNA test? That cousin would have your freguesia 
> and then you wouldn't have to go through every single suggestion and you 
> could go straight to a freguesia. DNA is on sale this month too: 
> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands 
> You want the Family Finder test ($59 USD + $12.95 S&H - includes return 
> postage back to the lab if you are a U.S. resident). If your mother is alive, 
> test her. If she is not alive, test one of her siblings. If none of them are 
> alive, test yourself.
> 
> Good luck!
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Comcast  wrote:
>> I need help badly,and currently looking for my grandmother my mother's 
>> mother who died here in the USA when my mother was 3 years old. All we know 
>> about her from her death cert it says that Anna Cabral was the daughter of 
>> Antonio Cabral Silva and Anna Luciana from St Michaels Azores and she was 
>> born in 1879. I looked for her birth based on that info and came up empty. 
>> Currently trying to find a marriage for Antonio and Anna Luciana. Thanks for 
>> any help from anyone. My email is pj...@comcast.net
>> 
>> Thanks,Paul
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Margaret Vicente  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mahalo, Rich.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Just to say thank you.  The great thing about being in a group is that all 
>>> of the other members are also at a ready to help and assist.  There are a 
>>> few I could name 😊.   None-the-less your email is very  much appreciated, 
>>> thank you!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Happy to assist if and when you will have a question.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Rich Mueller
>>> Sent: August 14, 2019 7:10 PM
>>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Margaret, I haven't had to ask a question on my wife's side of our family 
>>> but I have noticed that you are absolutely amazing at helping folks when 
>>> they get stuck. Mahalo!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> E malama pono
>>> 
>>> Rich Mueller
>>> 
>>> "Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can 
>>> work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those 
>>> acts will be written the history of this generation." - Robert F. Kennedy
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:30 PM Margaret Vicente 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gordon,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Gordon soares
>>> Sent: August 14, 2019 4:28 PM
>>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t 
>>> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
>>> 
>>> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing it 
>>> is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who 
>>> applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete 
>>> the process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization 
>>> papers that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find 
>>> his ship or other immigration info for him. He came from Pico.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gordon
>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Cheri Mello]

American arrival records can be tricky. It was up to the captain to decide
which ports people would be counted at (see John P. Coletta's "They Came In
Ships" and Michael C. Tepper's "American Arrival Records" for further
discussion). The captain could have sailed to NY (before 1890/1891 it was
Castle Garden, after that date, it was Ellis Island), said everybody off,
and they were counted there. Or he could have said only those whose
destination was NY get off and those going to New Bedford, etc, may stay on
the ship. My ancestor sailed into NY, but disembarked in New Bedford. She's
counted in NY. And then again, the immigrant my say that they immigrated to
NY because that's where they first saw America, regardless of where they
actually disembarked. So you have to check multiple ports.

The Morton Allen Directory lists all the ships and dates coming into NY.

Your local public library has all the books that I've mentioned.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Hello Gordon,
>
>
>
> The last Couple of columns, starting at the very last, are: Observations
> [here they record physical characteristics], next is, Nome de Navio/Ship’s
> Name.
>
>
>
> Some times findings turn out some surprises but that’s how it was.  Sorry,
> can’t answer your question about the port of arrival but if you say it’s
> New York, most likely you will find them in Ellis Island records.
>
>
>
> Actually, Joe Matias was the one who found your grandmother Marcelina’s
> passport.  The link below is for your grandfather Manuel.  I won’t post the
> link here to avoid confusion, but please do check your email for his
> message to you.
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> *From: *Gordon soares 
> *Sent: *August 15, 2019 1:47 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>
>
>
> Hi Margaret:
>
> As usual you are amazing at finding these documents.I’m having trouble
> reading the column headings and all the scratch scratch in the last couple
> of columns.What they heck is that?
>
> I have the marriage certificate for my grandparents…It created a great
> deal of angst for my father when he found out his mother and dad both had
> incognitos. Kind of unnerving in his day, I guess.
>
> Do you think if the ship my grandmother was on—the SS Dona Maria—landed in
> New York would she be listed in Ellis Island?
>
> Finally, how do I find Manuel Machado Soares’ ship manifest like you did
> for Marcelina?
>
> Gordon
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Gordon,
>
>
>
> Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html
>
>
>
> From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> *From: *Gordon soares 
> *Sent: *August 14, 2019 4:28 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] help
>
>
>
> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t
> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>
>
>
> Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
>
> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing
> it is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>
>
>
> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who
> applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete
> the process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization
> papers that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find
> his ship or other immigration info for him. He came from Pico.
>
>
>
> Gordon
>
>
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Margaret Vicente]

Hello Gordon,

The last Couple of columns, starting at the very last, are: Observations [here 
they record physical characteristics], next is, Nome de Navio/Ship’s Name.

Some times findings turn out some surprises but that’s how it was.  Sorry, 
can’t answer your question about the port of arrival but if you say it’s New 
York, most likely you will find them in Ellis Island records.  

Actually, Joe Matias was the one who found your grandmother Marcelina’s 
passport.  The link below is for your grandfather Manuel.  I won’t post the 
link here to avoid confusion, but please do check your email for his message to 
you.

Margaret 

From: Gordon soares
Sent: August 15, 2019 1:47 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

Hi Margaret:
As usual you are amazing at finding these documents.I’m having trouble reading 
the column headings and all the scratch scratch in the last couple of 
columns.What they heck is that?
I have the marriage certificate for my grandparents…It created a great deal of 
angst for my father when he found out his mother and dad both had incognitos. 
Kind of unnerving in his day, I guess. 
Do you think if the ship my grandmother was on—the SS Dona Maria—landed in New 
York would she be listed in Ellis Island?
Finally, how do I find Manuel Machado Soares’ ship manifest like you did for 
Marcelina?
Gordon


On Aug 14, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

Hi Gordon,
 
Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html
 
>From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html
 
Margaret
 
From: Gordon soares
Sent: August 14, 2019 4:28 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
 
I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t seem 
to find the ship passenger list.
 
Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing it is 
an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
 
I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who 
applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete the 
process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization papers 
that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find his ship 
or other immigration info for him. He came from Pico.
 
Gordon
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Paul,

You have to have a freguesia in order to start researching over there. Sao
Miguel island has over 70 churches to wade through.

Have you tried every single thing here (and really, I mean every single
thing):
http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/

It took me 4 years and 25 documents (going through every single thing I
could find) before I figured out the freguesia. This was all B.C. though
(Before Computers).

And while you are trying every single thing, you need to do DNA. You just
don't know what you don't know. Suppose your 2nd cousin once removed with a
tree of 10,000 people took a DNA test? That cousin would have your
freguesia and then you wouldn't have to go through every single suggestion
and you could go straight to a freguesia. DNA is on sale this month too:
https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands
You want the Family Finder test ($59 USD + $12.95 S&H - includes return
postage back to the lab if you are a U.S. resident). If your mother is
alive, test her. If she is not alive, test one of her siblings. If none of
them are alive, test yourself.

Good luck!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Comcast  wrote:

> I need help badly,and currently looking for my grandmother my mother's
> mother who died here in the USA when my mother was 3 years old. All we know
> about her from her death cert it says that Anna Cabral was the daughter of
> Antonio Cabral Silva and Anna Luciana from St Michaels Azores and she was
> born in 1879. I looked for her birth based on that info and came up empty.
> Currently trying to find a marriage for Antonio and Anna Luciana. Thanks
> for any help from anyone. My email is pj...@comcast.net
>
> Thanks,Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
> Mahalo, Rich.
>
>
>
> Just to say thank you.  The great thing about being in a group is that all
> of the other members are also at a ready to help and assist.  There are a
> few I could name 😊.   None-the-less your email is very  much
> appreciated, thank you!
>
>
>
> Happy to assist if and when you will have a question.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> *From: *Rich Mueller 
> *Sent: *August 14, 2019 7:10 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>
>
>
> Margaret, I haven't had to ask a question on my wife's side of our family
> but I have noticed that you are absolutely amazing at helping folks when
> they get stuck. Mahalo!
>
>
>
> *E malama pono*
>
> Rich Mueller
>
> *"Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can
> work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those
> acts will be written the history of this generation." - Robert F. Kennedy*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:30 PM Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Gordon,
>
>
>
> Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html
>
>
>
> From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side
>
>
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html
>
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>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> *From: *Gordon soares 
> *Sent: *August 14, 2019 4:28 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] help
>
>
>
> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t
> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>
>
>
> Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
>
> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing
> it is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>
>
>
> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who
> applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete
> the process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization
> papers that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find
> his ship or other immigration info for him. He came from Pico.
>
>
>
> Gordon
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Gordon soares]

Hi Margaret:
As usual you are amazing at finding these documents.I’m having trouble reading 
the column headings and all the scratch scratch in the last couple of 
columns.What they heck is that?
I have the marriage certificate for my grandparents…It created a great deal of 
angst for my father when he found out his mother and dad both had incognitos. 
Kind of unnerving in his day, I guess. 
Do you think if the ship my grandmother was on—the SS Dona Maria—landed in New 
York would she be listed in Ellis Island?
Finally, how do I find Manuel Machado Soares’ ship manifest like you did for 
Marcelina?
Gordon

> On Aug 14, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gordon,
>  
> Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html
>  
> 
>  
> From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html
>  
> 
>  
> Margaret
>  
> From: Gordon soares 
> Sent: August 14, 2019 4:28 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>  
> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t 
> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>  
> Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing it 
> is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>  
> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who 
> applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete the 
> process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization papers 
> that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find his ship 
> or other immigration info for him. He came from Pico.
>  
> Gordon
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Comcast]

I need help badly,and currently looking for my grandmother my mother's mother 
who died here in the USA when my mother was 3 years old. All we know about her 
from her death cert it says that Anna Cabral was the daughter of Antonio Cabral 
Silva and Anna Luciana from St Michaels Azores and she was born in 1879. I 
looked for her birth based on that info and came up empty. Currently trying to 
find a marriage for Antonio and Anna Luciana. Thanks for any help from anyone. 
My email is pj...@comcast.net

Thanks,Paul

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> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Mahalo, Rich.
>  
> Just to say thank you.  The great thing about being in a group is that all of 
> the other members are also at a ready to help and assist.  There are a few I 
> could name 😊.   None-the-less your email is very  much appreciated, thank you!
>  
> Happy to assist if and when you will have a question.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Margaret
>  
> From: Rich Mueller
> Sent: August 14, 2019 7:10 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>  
> Margaret, I haven't had to ask a question on my wife's side of our family but 
> I have noticed that you are absolutely amazing at helping folks when they get 
> stuck. Mahalo!
>  
> E malama pono
> Rich Mueller
> "Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work 
> to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will 
> be written the history of this generation." - Robert F. Kennedy
>  
>  
>  
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:30 PM Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
>  
> Found your grandfather in passports 1901, # 329
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P146.html
>  
> From their, found their marriage, # 8 right side
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P79.html
>  
> Margaret
>  
> From: Gordon soares
> Sent: August 14, 2019 4:28 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help
>  
> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t 
> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>  
> Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing it 
> is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>  
> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares who 
> applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t complete the 
> process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her naturalization papers 
> that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions on how to find his ship 
> or other immigration info for him. He came from Pico.
>  
> Gordon
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