Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque
Bill, thank you for catching my error and for taking the time to look for the correct record. I think you're right abt the indexer trying to clarify which Joao this was. They had obviously run into this couple elsewhere in their indexing of this village. Thanks, Cheri for checking out Roccio as a surname. I had never run into it before either. Glad I know now what it means! Gustavo, I'm glad that Cheri pointed you to the indexes. They are a wonderful help. Good luck! And Margaret, thank you for your info. I now have a new word for my personal Portuguese Language collection! So do we think then maybe that Joao lived near the town square??? Thank you, everyone. I really appreciate your time & input. Fawn <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link> <#m_1302283438134376765_m_-6001457540848237017_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:41 PM Gustavo Martins wrote: > Thank you very much Cheri > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 25 févr. 2019 à 17:35, Margaret Vicente a > écrit : > > Bill, > > > > Indeed, thank you so much for catching it was sent to the wrong thread. > Thought the info might help Fawn. As an fyi the “Rocio/rossio’ explanation > was taken from the book of Padre Antonio Correia, Historia Insulana das > ilhas de Portugal. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > *From: *bsei2...@gmail.com > *Sent: *February 25, 2019 2:58 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque > > > > Thank you Margaret. I've pasted your response here where I am sure you > intended to post it. > > > > From Margaret: > > Hello, one and all. > > > > For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname. It is > indicating a place. i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s > saying. A Rossio is the town square. > > > > Margaret > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Gustavo, > > > > Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb. > We try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs: > > http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ > > > > Bookmark or save that site. > > > > Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island. > > > > If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact > the webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com > > > > If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy > the URL and send it to Kathy as well. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS > wrote: > > Hello, Fawn! > > > > Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from > that Island. > > Would you send me the file, if possible? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Gustavo Martins > > Santa Catarina - Brasil > > > > > > > > > > > > Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index. I appreciate > all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes > and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others. Thank > you so much to all who have done this. > > > > My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism > record. The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao > Vieira Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, > there is no mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document. > > > > I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from > Joao's marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra > who is married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during > this same time period. > > > > Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index. Thank you > for any thoughts on this. > > > > Fawn Silva > > St. Louis, MO > > > > Third baptism down on left side > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html > > > > [image: > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/JjzEPM_1UQiAcgcIii9zH3wa
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial
Thank you so much everyone for your thoughts and help. Does not sound like this is the child I am looking for. I wish they included more info in these old records. So hard to know if who you are finding is family or not! Sorry I was so slow in responding. Got caught up with issues here at home but am back at this again now!! Thanks again for your help. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:00 AM, mnk <kamis...@comcast.net> wrote: > Definitely viuva. Look closely at the records written by this priest to > compare his style of writing, you will see the difference between his n's > and v's. > MNK > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial
Hello Everyone, I am looking for an obito for Maria, the illegitimate child of Agada Rodrigues, who was born in 1670. Agada had another Maria who was born in 1680 so I believe this first Maria had died. I remember Joao Ventura saying in a seminar that during this time period the deaths of children under the age of 7 were not recorded but I did find this obito. After Maria Rodrigues it says what looks like nenna. Can't find a translation for that. Does anyone know what that means or if I am reading it wrong?? Could this have been a child? Thank you for any ideas you have to offer! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO 1st entry on top right: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1649-1705/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1649-1705_item1/P28.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help w/baptism from Pedro Miguel, Horta, Faial
Thank you for your help, Margaret. The passport was from 1873 and says he was 21. I thought maybe this was the husband of a grgr aunt but I didn't know which vlg he was from on Faial. I found this passport record then the baptism the name of the mother was correct, according to our Jose's marriage record in CA, but the father is supposed to be Dominico Silveira Furtado. I have found family whose first names are different on different records so I thought maybe that might be the case. The fact that this Jose died in the Azores means that he is probably not the one I want. I am going to keep this info, tho, just in case. I can usually get most of the records but those margin notes really confuse me!! Thanks so much for helping. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Fawn, This person died in Pedro Miguel, Faial as per the side note. The year of death is half hidden, Apr 14 1894? doc. no. 108 pg. ?54 . Since you found the passport, what age does it say he was and when was it issued? Was he single when he left? usually the parents names are listed for single persons.. On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I am needing help with the margin notes in the baptism for Jose Silveira Furtado, the 2nd baptism down on the right hand page. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1839-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1839-1855_item1/P141.html The Jose Silveira Furtado I am looking for came to CA where he was married in 1885. I believe I have found his passport record in the 1873 Horta records but I can't read the margin notes here in the baptism and am wondering if this is the same person I want. If anyone could help with these margin notes I would very much appreciate it. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help w/baptism from Pedro Miguel, Horta, Faial
Hello Everyone, I am needing help with the margin notes in the baptism for Jose Silveira Furtado, the 2nd baptism down on the right hand page. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1839-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1839-1855_item1/P141.html The Jose Silveira Furtado I am looking for came to CA where he was married in 1885. I believe I have found his passport record in the 1873 Horta records but I can't read the margin notes here in the baptism and am wondering if this is the same person I want. If anyone could help with these margin notes I would very much appreciate it. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA index?
Antonio, So does the ? after a first name on the NEPS site mean that they have no other records for this person, marriage, or death? Does is mean that they immigrated or possibly moved to another village or island?? Thank you, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Antonio Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, How old was Manuel when he immigrated to the US? If he was a child the only thing recorded on NEPS would be his first name and it would be followed by a question mark(Manuel?). You may have to look for a Manuel?, your best bet may be to look for all Manuel's born in 1884 on Pico and see if you find one born on Feb 25 1884 Antonio Faria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Hello Nancy Jean, Thank you for thinking of my father. He is doing some better I will be going home to St Louis on Friday. Dennis Silva is my husband Buzzie Mendonca is his mother's brother. Dennis' mother passed away so we asked Uncle Buzzie to do a DNA test for us and he kindly accepted. Just wondering if you are Portuguese thru your mother your father. If you are Azorean on both sides of your family, like my husband is, the DNA matches you mention might be closer for you because you are related closer on the family side that your uncle is not related to. Am I making sense?? You might be related to my husband on both sides of his family, his mother's side (Buzzie) and his father's side (Dennis' DNA) but the DNA match will give you the closest one, in this case 4th remote. I think that could explain this. Cheri, is that right??? Rosemarie, how fun to be connected to you! You worked with my cousin, Noreene, and you are a cousin to my husband!! Our Silva's were also Silveira are from Calheta then Ribeira Seca then it goes to Topo. Have no Lemos in the family tree but have Silveira, Soares Sigueira, Bettencourt Avila, Alveres Silveira others from Rosais. Also family from Pico Faial Terceira but the majority are from Sao Jorge Pico. Would love to find out how we all connect!! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:58 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Fawn, I hope your father is improving. Both myself and my Uncle John Cardoza Baptiste match Buzzie Mendonca.he shows as 4th -remote match to me and 5th-remote to my uncle.I would have thought it would be just the opposite since Uncle John's a generation earlier. I noticed you are the contact for Dennis Wilbert Silva who is a 4th-remote match to me but not to my uncle. Best regards, Nancy Jean -- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:52:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: 2sil...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com A belated thank you to those who helped me with this. My father had a stroke I am in CA caring for him my mother I failed to thank you for your help and ideas. Mary Nancy, my husband's uncle also had his DNA done for us is on the site as Buzzie Mendonca. My husband has a number of family lines that link to Rosais and then the one to Norte Grande. Thanks again, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm also watching this thread with interest since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande. These witness names are similar to my names. I haven't noticed a FF match though to others from here for me or my uncle, John Baptiste.except to Rosemarie as a 5th to remote. Nancy Jean -- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:45:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: busybo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt. I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't see an immediate connection to these people. :) Mary On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Sam, My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:36 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I just noticed I am also showing a relation to Buzzie Mendonca. Anyone know his ancestry? There is no gedcom. We have 23 common matches between us. We're not showing a relation, but if Bill Antoine is related to Wally, then we should show it. But maybe too remote. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message On Apr 26, 2014, at 14:02, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
A belated thank you to those who helped me with this. My father had a stroke I am in CA caring for him my mother I failed to thank you for your help and ideas. Mary Nancy, my husband's uncle also had his DNA done for us is on the site as Buzzie Mendonca. My husband has a number of family lines that link to Rosais and then the one to Norte Grande. Thanks again, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm also watching this thread with interest since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande. These witness names are similar to my names. I haven't noticed a FF match though to others from here for me or my uncle, John Baptiste.except to Rosemarie as a 5th to remote. Nancy Jean -- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:45:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: busybo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt. I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't see an immediate connection to these people. :) Mary On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help w/Father's Name on Topo Baptism
Thank you so much Manoel and Isabella. I'm glad you could read it!! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.comwrote: Good morning Fawn, Yes, Matheus Silveira is the father and Maria de Souza the mother. She was born 28 May 1710 and baptized on the 1 Jun 1710.. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:28:50 AM UTC-5, 2si...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone has a minute to check out this baptismal record for Maria daughter of __ Silveira and Maria de Souza. I am looking for children of Mateus Silveira Agueda and Maria de Sousa and am wondering if this is one of them... Can't read the father's first name. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR- CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719_item1/P117.html Thank you, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Witnesses @ marriages
Thank you so much for your help, everyone. I appreciated your thoughts. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't state that the mother was from Velas, it states that the parents were from Sao Jorge. It states, however, that Ignacio Soares de Albergaria is Capitao-mor of Velas, Sao Jorge. Therefore, the Velas that the record was referring to was in Sao Jorge - which was the question you were asking. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Witnesses @ marriages
Thank you for your help. So the witnesses to the ceremony were not necessarily family members. I'm not wonderful at translating but I'm not seeing where it says the mother is from Velas. After the paternal grandparents names doesn't it say native of Sao Jorge but no village? I'm wondering if that refers to Jorge Jose, the groom. I'm not seeing Velas in that part. Thanks again, Fawn Silva On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, the entire congregation present at the event are witnesses to the marriage, but the family may invite someone special ( family members, priests, or prominent members of the community) to act as godparent/s, or to witness the ceremony. As for literacy, few commoners may have the opportunity to have an education, but, generally all priests, and upper class members of society were literate. The record states that this marriage ceremony was celebrated in Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, in the district of Se, Concelho of Angra,on the island of Terceira. The record mentions, Velas, Sao Jorge, as birthplace of the mother, so it is likely that is the place referred to. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA test for maternal uncle?
Just wondering if it would be useful to have my husband's maternal uncle tested. I am working on my husband's family tree he has been DNA tested in a number of the available tests but would testing his uncle be an additional help? Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Witnesses @ marriages
Hi Everyone, I have a question on witnesses @ marriages. Were they family members, like godparents @ baptisms? This is my husband's 3rd grgrandparent's 1822 marriage record and from what I can translate the witnesses are: Ignacio Soares de Albergaria Souza Capitão-mor in the village of Velas Joao Antonio Cordeiro, single, native of corte of Lisbon And they both signed the document. Wasn't that unusual for people to be able to write then? What Velas are they referring to? Velas, Sao Jorge??? Here is the link to the marriage record on the CCA site: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-C-1814-1828/TER-AH-SE-C-1814-1828_item1/P106.html I know the groom's parents are from Sao Jorge but that is all the info I have. Any ideas anyone may have on this marriage would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records
Thank you Joao and Shirley. Not what I wanted to hear but now I know!! On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:25 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hello According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feteira_(Horta)), Feteira has been a parish since 1568. According to the Azorean government archive catalog ( http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=981249), there's no marriage books for Feteira prior to 1720. From these two facts, I'd deduce that they did marry in Feteira before 1720, but the books are no longer in existence. You'll have to resort to indirect sources for further research, such as priest processes or similar. Regards, João Ventura On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 6:03:25 PM UTC+2, Shirley Allegre wrote: I don't know. Can anyone answer Fawn's question? Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Fawn Silva *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 07, 2013 1:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records Thank you, Shirley. Since I sent the post I checked online to see what the LDS films contain it looks like they only go back to 1720 also. Where did people go before that time??? Fawn On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Shirley Allegre shi...@digitalpath.netwrote: ** Fawn: I have the Feteira, Fails films. I will see if I can find anything for you. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Fawn Silva *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:25 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records I am looking for a marriage record for Manuel Dutra Mendonca and Violante Do Rosario from Feteira, Faial. I checked the marriages on the CCA site from 1726 back to 1720 (their first child I have was probably born abt 1727) but they weren't there. Unfortunately their records don't go back any further than that. Are there previous Feteira records and the CCA doesn't have them up yet or did the people from Feteira go to another fregusia previous to 1720?? Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records
Thank you, Shirley. Since I sent the post I checked online to see what the LDS films contain it looks like they only go back to 1720 also. Where did people go before that time??? Fawn On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: ** Fawn: I have the Feteira, Fails films. I will see if I can find anything for you. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:25 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records I am looking for a marriage record for Manuel Dutra Mendonca and Violante Do Rosario from Feteira, Faial. I checked the marriages on the CCA site from 1726 back to 1720 (their first child I have was probably born abt 1727) but they weren't there. Unfortunately their records don't go back any further than that. Are there previous Feteira records and the CCA doesn't have them up yet or did the people from Feteira go to another fregusia previous to 1720?? Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Pre 1720 Feteira, Faial Marriage Records
I am looking for a marriage record for Manuel Dutra Mendonca and Violante Do Rosario from Feteira, Faial. I checked the marriages on the CCA site from 1726 back to 1720 (their first child I have was probably born abt 1727) but they weren't there. Unfortunately their records don't go back any further than that. Are there previous Feteira records and the CCA doesn't have them up yet or did the people from Feteira go to another fregusia previous to 1720?? Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help w/ Madalena, Pico baptism
Thank you, Joao. I did have the yr as 1788. Don't know why I typed 1785... The Vicencia who is in the death marriage records above is my husband's 3rd great grandmother. Somehow when I was trying to read the records late last nite, I thought I saw Madalena somewhere in the record. Sure can't see it now!! I checked the Santa Luzia baptisms for Vicencia and couldn't find her. I probably missed her will check again. Thanks again for your help, Fawn Silva On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hello, Fawn I think the year is 1788, the wife's name is Rosa Maria residents of Vale Levante the Parish is of course, the Santa Maria Madalena in Pico, the godfather's name seems to be José Inácio Oliveira of the village of Faial. Note that Vale Levante, means eastern valley, so it doesn't have to be a specific place existing today. Also, I'm not sure this is the same Vicencia Rosa.. It clearly says that the Vicencia in the marriage record was born and baptized in Sta. Luzia. In any case, the second one is this person: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=StaLuzia;lang=pt;p=vicencia;n=rosa Her death record is: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-O-1795-1853/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-O-1795-1853_item1/P167.html Note that it's not that uncommon for women to have morphing names.. Try to research her mother's family comes from some 'Francisco' family. Also, it's quite possible she lied about having been abandoned. It's also possible she didn't know. João On Monday, July 1, 2013 5:51:49 AM UTC+2, 2si...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Group, I have not posted for quite a while but need some help with a baptism I just found. This is for Vincencia Roza, who was left on a doorstep @ birth at the home of Joseph de Rosa and his wife __ Maria and was baptized in Madalena, Pico. I can't read all of it but what I got out of it was: Vicenta, daughter of unknown parents September 5, 1785, was laid at the door of Joseph da Rosa and his wife _ Maria, residents of _ natives of this parish __Madelena, Pico, and was baptized on the 6thday of the same month, godfather was grandson, Joseph Ignatio_ Fayal But in her Sept 1811 Santa Luzia, Pico, marriage record Vincentia is listed as the legitimate daughter of Joze Roza and Maria Francisca. Did they adopt her and so she became legitimate? Was Maria Francisca a different wife than the __ Maria in the baptism record? Also, when you come across someone who has been adopted, do you then follow the adopted family line? That sounds like what I would like to do since they obviously became her parents. I don't know how to attach these baptism marriage records but here are the sites: Baptism: ***http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC- MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html Marriage: http://culturacores.azores.**gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-** SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815/PIC-**SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815_** item1/P267.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815_item1/P267.html Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help w/ Madalena, Pico baptism
Hello Group, I have not posted for quite a while but need some help with a baptism I just found. This is for Vincencia Roza, who was left on a doorstep @ birth at the home of Joseph de Rosa and his wife __ Maria and was baptized in Madalena, Pico. I can't read all of it but what I got out of it was: Vicenta, daughter of unknown parents September 5, 1785, was laid at the door of Joseph da Rosa and his wife _ Maria, residents of _ natives of this parish __Madelena, Pico, and was baptized on the 6thday of the same month, godfather was grandson, Joseph Ignatio_ Fayal But in her Sept 1811 Santa Luzia, Pico, marriage record Vincentia is listed as the legitimate daughter of Joze Roza and Maria Francisca. Did they adopt her and so she became legitimate? Was Maria Francisca a different wife than the __ Maria in the baptism record? Also, when you come across someone who has been adopted, do you then follow the adopted family line? That sounds like what I would like to do since they obviously became her parents. I don't know how to attach these baptism marriage records but here are the sites: Baptism: *** http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html Marriage: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815_item1/P267.html Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
