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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

2016-01-02 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Bella,
Glad to see you on the list. Using  Gedmatch we learned we are 7th cousins
through our Cedros & Capelo, Faial ancestors. It took a while comparing &
sharing our trees but it is so  exciting to see each record that connects
us.

Patricia Butcher

Researching Pico & Faial
On Jan 1, 2016 10:41 AM, "Bellla" <bellacap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after
> showing up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in
> testing or genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup
> etc. Three grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth
> grandparent is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England
> with relatives in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI
> Mass and Calif growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help
> anyone just let me know!
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California on TLC and they are offering a trip to the motherland!

2013-07-24 Thread Patricia Butcher

Sorry about all the typos...eye exam earlier.  :)

Pat 

 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:37:00 -0700
 From: pereir...@cox.net
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California 
 on TLC and they are offering a trip to the motherland!
 CC: m...@nyu.edu
 
 Hi Everyone,
 Google Chrome which, I use did, not let me enter the contest. A red error 
 message came up. I called Ancestry  a patient guy had me try Fierfox while 
 he waited to see if It would work. Hooray, it did. 
 
 Patricia
  MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote: 
  Thanks, Cheri.  I missed the show last night but have saved it to my
  recorded shows.
  
  MaryAnn Santos
  
  On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California on TLC.  I'm guessing it's
   nationwide for those who get TLC (The Learning Channel) from their TV
   provider.  They are giving away a trip to the motherland if you watch the
   episode and answer the question correctly.  If you don't get TLC, but want
   to enter anyways, the answer is the Civil War.  http://goo.gl/Q34xee
  
   And I tried to enter twice, but I was blocked!
  
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt lake

2013-07-21 Thread Patricia Butcher

Thanks Rosemarie. Sometimes things are a little formal/stiff  here but I do 
understand.

Pat 

From: rcap...@redshift.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt lake
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 19:06:50 -0700

I think it was “Clowney” E.  Rosemarie

From: E Sharp 
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 6:20 PM
To: azores 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt lake

You all can Thelma and Louise it with Brad Pitt.  I'm bringing George 
Clooneyor was that George Clowney that just called.  

E

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 5:28 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote:

You 
  guys are a riot, Cheri  I will expect you to come in the TL 
  costumes! LOL

Rosemarie

-Original Message- From: pereir...@cox.net
Sent: 
  Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:15 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: Liz Migliori
Subject: Re: 
  [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt lake

Yes, yesI will accept your offer  
  Thelma  Louise it with you to the Salt Lake Conference !! Miracles happen 
  in s many ways! Thanks Prima. Have always wanted to gomainly to 
  meet  everyone on the list  my new found cousins.  I'll be 
  Thelma or was it Louise that was with Brad Pitt?

Pat

 Liz 
  Migliori lizmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hey 
Prima how about I drive to Vegas and pick u up and we Thelma and Louise it 
to Salt Lake next year for the Azores conference???

Sent from my 
iPhone

On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:03 PM, pereir...@cox.net 
wrote:

 Hi Emil  Dot,
 Thanks for encouraging me to 
travel to Toronto to meet my Machado Avila  Pico cousins. But  
prevents me from doing those trips at this time  of my life. But you 
never know, miracles happen.

 Speaking of miracles, I just 
found my Machado Avila grandmother's first  born child on Ancestry. For 
over 12 years, I searched for this baby boy  named Manuel, per my 
mother. I still remember the large framed picture  on the wall of this 
baby surrounded with roses. I was told he had passed  away before he was 
a year old. My grandparents, Thomas Pereira Jorge de  Escobar  
Maria Conceicao Avila, were married in New Bedford in 1898.  They 
appeared on the 1900 RI census as Thomas  Mary Perry. No children.  
But today, thanks to Ancestry, I found Manuel P George b. June 7, 1899  
in Fairhaven, MA. That's their first born. All the details match. Still  
haven't been able to find a death record in MA or RI for baby Manuel.  
Years ago I phoned all the town vital statistic offices in MA  RI but 
 never found the birth  death record of this child. No death 
records  appeared online either. Sometimes people we contact do the best 
they can  but don't search adequately enough... so persistence pays off. 
This  family of mine has used the surnames, George, Jorge, Perry, Perry 
Jorge   Pereira. As we all know, this is what makes our Portuguese 
research so  challenging.

 Ancestry is free till tomorrow 
for their New England Collections.

 Patricia
  ehsilve...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi cousin 
Pat,

 I am glad that you 
found some useful information in the update. A  few years ago Dot 
and I were able to get her mother's adoption records  opened and 
that led us to Prince Edward Island, Canada and her mother's  
scottish ancestry. We went there and met her mother's only living  
brother who was in a nursing home and had never knew he had a sister. 
 It was a great experience. He treated us as though he knew us all 
his  life and was extremely happy as were we. Please don't wait if 
you can  go to visit your Canadian relatives, our tomorrows are 
often wasted.  Dot's uncle Finlay died a few months after our visit 
with him, but he  is still alive in our genealogy and grateful 
memories. We meet many  cousins and have made many new 
friends.

Emil

 - Original Message 
-
 From: Patricia Butcher
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 
16:21:52 - (UTC)
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado 
Avila from Sao Jorge to  
California

Cousin Emil,Thank you so much. You simply amaze me!!! My Toronto Canada 
 Pico relatives told me I would have to visit them to get the 
details.  Never know. I might hop a plane one day. I do know that 
one of the  Machado Avila sons, not sure which generation, did move 
to Terceira.

 Pat

 Date: Fri, 
19 Jul 2013 02:16:02 +
 From: ehsilve...@comcast.net
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 CC: gfsche...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: 
[AZORES-Genealogy] Machado Avila from Sao Jorge to  
California

 Hi Pat,
  I have some 
additions on your line attached. I don't find any of the  others 
Patricia Phillips is looking for. Sorry.

Emil

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Mello   
Sent: Thu, 18 Jul 2013  18:26:18 - (UTC)  Subject: Re

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado Avila from Sao Jorge to California

2013-07-19 Thread Patricia Butcher

Cousin Emil,Thank you so much. You simply amaze me!!! My Toronto Canada Pico 
relatives told me I would have to visit them to get the details. Never know. I 
might hop a plane one day. I do know that one of the Machado Avila sons, not 
sure which generation, did move to Terceira. 

Pat 

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 02:16:02 +
From: ehsilve...@comcast.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com
CC: gfsche...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado Avila from Sao Jorge to California

Hi Pat,
  I have some additions on your line attached. I don't find any of the others 
Patricia Phillips is looking for. Sorry.
 
Emil

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azores@googlegroups.com  Cc: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com  Sent: Thu, 18 
Jul 2013 18:26:18 - (UTC)  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado Avila 
from Sao Jorge to CaliforniaHello Patricia Phillips,  My grandmother, Maria 
da Conceicao Avila born in Ribeiras, Pico in 1873 is from the Machado Avila 
line from Ribeiras, Pico.  My great Uncle,Manuel Machado Avila, b. Feb 10, 1878 
had 2 sons but I have no names or birth dates, all from Ribeiras, Pico.  His 
one daughter, Maria Moniz Jorge was born in Ribeiras abt 1908. They immigrated 
to Toronto, Canada. Maybe those sons island hopped?My ggrandfather, Manuel 
Machado Avila b. July 1, 1790 in Ribeiras, Pico had 2 sons that I have 
birthdates on  no further information.  Antonio Machado Avila b. Jan 19, 1837 
 Jose Machado Avila b. March 17, 1841. Maybe, they island hopped too.The 
ones that did immigrate changed their names just as yours did, Machado to Avila 
 also Avilla. Good luck in your search.Patricia  Las Vegas, NV 
  Cheri Mello  wrote:Repost for Patricia P, patricia.phillips1 at 
earthlink.net I am relatively new to discussion groups through 
Google.  My Great-Grandfather was Joseph Machado Avila, and I have his 
birth   location as Sao Jorge, Azores.  I understand he went by the Machado 
last   name when he decided to locate permanently to the United States. My   
Mother’s cousin advised me he changed his name to Avila after establishing   
himself in business with a gentleman who must have carried the Machado last   
name. Initially, the family went by the spelling “Avilla”.  His mother’s 
name as I understand it was Francisca de Avila.   My Great   Grandfather’s 
death certificate lists the name of his father as Joseph M.   Avila, and his 
mother’s maiden name is noted as Anna Francis.  For a long   time, I 
understood his name to be Joseph Machado.  My Great Aunt Ann Avila   completed 
the death certificate record.  He was born December 25, 1850.  He   died March 
9, 1924 in Newman, California.  He had  thirteen children:  Nine   boys and 
four girls.  One boy passed away in infancy, William.  The last   son was 
named William Joseph, but the other seven boys carried the middle   name 
Machado;  Daniel, Anthony, Joseph, Manuel, Frank, John, and George.  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial

2011-07-18 Thread Patricia Butcher


 Emil  Donna,

Wow, more cousins  more missing links to our Furtado Dutra line from 
Faial. Donna  I grew up with these families in Jamestown, RI. I was 
aware that some had gone on to California. Emil, you have everything 
current in your files. I am still plugging along slowly entering 
Donna's information to my PAF. Thanks for your continued research  
additions to our numerous cousin lines. And Donna, thank you for 
pursuing the Jamestown family lines that connect us. So glad you have 
the passion to do this.


Pat



At 10:27 AM 7/18/2011, you wrote:

Emil,

The Jose Furtado Dutra born April 25, 1899 was my uncle by 
marriage.  He came to the US in 1920 and married my aunt, Mary 
Elizabeth Lewis (Luis).  They had no children, but my widowed mother 
and I lived with them.  They also helped raise some other children as well.


His sister Rose also came to the US, not sure when.  She lived near 
New Port, RI and in her later years wintered in Florida where here 
daughters and son live.  Rose married a man named Woodson.


My uncle's other brother Antonio came to the US in the 60's as an 
older man to be with his daughters.  His daughter Rose had come to 
the US in the 50's with her husband, Antonio Souza and two sons and 
they lived in California near us.  His daughter Maria came when he 
did and she never married.  Antonio came first to the East and then 
came to California.


Another brother, Joao was a half brother.  My Uncle Joe sent for 
Joao's two sons, Manuel and Frank during the time of the volcano in 
the late 50's.  Their sister Maria came to the US later with her 
husband and two children and eventually Joao and his wife Maria also 
came to the US and lived here in Ca near us.


I am very close to this family and am in contact with them 
regularly.  We consider ourselves related even though we are not 
blood related.  My Uncle Jose Furtado Dutra had two cousins, Jose 
Garcia and Joao Da Rosa (later americanized to Rose).  I have early 
pictures of them together, but I am not sure if the pictures where 
taken here or in the Azores.  They may have even come to the US 
together.  There was also a Moitoso family that would visit us the 
were related to my Uncle Joe.  I don't remember the husband's name, 
but the wife was Maria, of course and sons were Frank and 
Manuel.  The whole family came from the Faial in the 60's also.


Oh and by the way, I also have Vargas relatives from Almoxarife.

Mary Ann

In a message dated 7/18/2011 9:16:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
ehsilve...@comcast.net writes:

Hi to all,
I do have an uncle Jose Dutra who was born Dec 01, 1899 in Ribeira 
Funda, Cedros, Faial. I don't know who he married, but I have six 
children listed for him. Three each girls and boys. I have Jose 
Furtado Dutra a 3rd cousin 2x removed who was born Nov 04, 1900 in 
Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial, and Jose Furtado Dutra born Apr 25, 
1899 Santa Barbara, Cedros, Faial. I have them but no marriage or 
children recorded for either as of now. My mother's father was 
Antonio Dutra Junior and her mother was Inacia Emilia da Conceicao Moitoso.

Emil
Emil Silveira
Currently Researching:
Names and Places;
Avila,  Horta, Angustias, Faial
Silveira, Horta, Sao Salvador, Faial

Leal, Horta, Angustias, Faial
Vargas, Horta, Almoxarife, Faial










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Sent: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:01:26 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial

Did any of these Furtados marry into the Dutra line?  My uncle by
marriage was Jose Furtado  Dutra, born in Cedros in about 1899.  In
his line, he had cousins named Rose and Garcia.

Mary Ann



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Katy Perry's Azorean Roots

2011-05-02 Thread Patricia Butcher

Elaine,
You are something else! I mean that in a complimentary way of
course!! :) Thanks, that is the family!!!

My mother in law, Gussie Perry, died in Jan 1967. She was married to
Thomas Saul Butcher. They lived in the Fremont, CA area. Will write
to you off list as they were not Portuguese. But my husband had that
beautiful skin tone grew up with all the Portuguese in the San
Leandro area. Thanks again...

Pat

At 03:54 PM 5/1/2011, you wrote:

Pat,

I found the following which might be her. There are a few Alvina's
but this on says Gussie:

1900 US Census 1545 K Street, Fresno CA
Alvin Perry b. Dec. 1874 CA father b. NY mother b. CA music teacher
wife: Myrtle b. Feb. 1879 b. MO father b. PA mother b. VA married 5
years, 2 children born, 2 children living.

dau. Gussie b. June 1896 CA
son Elmer b. Jan 1900 CA

Is this them? Can't seem to find much more on them. Did they stay in CA?

Alvina Gussie Perry born in California,June of 1896. Haven't tackled
that Perry line yet.

Pat

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Katy Perry's Azorean Roots

2011-05-02 Thread Patricia Butcher

Thanks Laura. I read the Wikipedia section and there are a few more
clues to work with. Will just have to contact Katy!!! :)

Pat

At 03:08 PM 5/2/2011, you wrote:
Check out Katy Perry's bio in Wikipedia. (Katy) Katherine Elizabeth
Hudson was born in Santa Barbara, CA. She is of Portuguese, Irish,
German, English ancestry. Her parents were both evangelical
pastors. Mother's maiden name was Perry. I have no idea which
Perry line. Her aunt, Eleanor Perry is a screenwriter and uncle,
Frank Perry a Director.

Laura

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pereir...@cox.net writes:

Elaine,
You are something else! I mean that in a complimentary way of
course!! :) Thanks, that is the family!!!

Pat

At 03:54 PM 5/1/2011, you wrote:

Pat,

I found the following which might be her. There are a few Alvina's
but this on says Gussie:

dau. Gussie b. June 1896 CA
son Elmer b. Jan 1900 CA

Is this them? Can't seem to find much more on them. Did they stay in CA?

Alvina Gussie Perry born in California,June of 1896. Haven't
tackled that Perry line yet.

Pat

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Katy Perry's Azorean Roots

2011-05-01 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Katherine,
Enjoyed your post about Katy Perry. Having the Perry name in my 
ancestry I have been very curious about her Portuguese roots and was 
trying to find out more about her Faial ggrandfather's surnames and 
families. If anyone has more information please let me know. Thanks


Pat


At 11:44 PM 4/30/2011, you wrote:

Be sure not to miss #1, #4 and #7

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/megan-smolenyak-smolenyak/katy-perry_b_852334.html

Click Like to help increase the ranking of this article. (We want
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Katy Perry's Azorean Roots

2011-05-01 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Elaine,
My mom's maiden name was Perry. (Pereira) and my mother in law was 
also a Perry, possibly English origin. Alvina Gussie Perry born in 
California,June of 1896. Haven't tackled that Perry line yet.


Pat

At 11:28 AM 5/1/2011, you wrote:
Perry is also a very English surname.  I assume most of the 
Portuguese Perry's are from the Pereira spelling?


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reliability of information Univ Minho NEPS and Familias Faialenses

2011-04-23 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hello Rosemarie,
It's about time we found a connection! I am thrilled! Half the list
are cousins to me nownot quite but it feels like it!!

Joao Garcia Pereira and Isabel Pereira Roxo are my 12th
ggrandparents. I just sent a list of names to Veronica to see how we connect.

Prima Pat

At 05:30 PM 4/22/2011, you wrote:

Dear Patricia Veronica,

JoaoGarcia Pereira and Isabel Pereira Roxo are my 15th grgrandparents
according to Familia Faialenses! Sooo, hello Primas!

Rosemarie

Hello Veronica,
My ancestry also traces back to Joao Garcia Pereira and Isabel Pereira
Roxo. I will email more to you later as I am not at home right now.

Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

vsp nypac...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello,

I am new to this group and want to say thank you for all of the
invaluable information I have found so far.
Since all 4 of my grandparents immigrated to the US but were born on
Faial (3 from Pedro Miguel and 1 from Cedros) I have been able to
trace via the Univ. of Minho NEPS geneweb and the Familias Faialenses
my family history.
How accurate is the information? Before I advise other family members
that our paternal grandfather is a
descendant of Joao Garcia Pereira and Isabel Pereira Roxo (original/
early families settling Faial) I would like to be assured of the
validity of the info.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help

2011-04-03 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Jacki,
Thanks for that picture. It is great! I have so few pictures of my ancestors.

No, I didn't hire a researcher but several of us who had roots in the 
village of Cedros received a copy of the file from the researcher and 
it included many notes. This was before it was posted on Neps. On 
Neps there is a note that also says Antonio's marriage record was not 
found. What an interesting story you relayed to us.


Pat

At 09:33 PM 4/2/2011, you wrote:

Hey Cousin,

Antonio  is my gg grandfather.  Thank you for that info. Did you or 
someone else hire a researcher or is this info from the NEPS website?


Here is a picture of him and his wife, Maria Clara (? Family lore is 
that they never married. She was supposedly the product of rape and 
considered unclean by the Catholic church and they were not allowed 
to marry.  I can't prove whether that's true or not, but I did ask a 
priest here if he thought that it could have been true and he said 
yes. So, who knows?)




Jacki


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help

2011-04-02 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Cousin Jacki,
According to my Cedros, Faial file you do have
the names correct Antonio Francisco de
Medeiros's birthdate is also correct. I do not
have the actual record but the Faial researcher
that did the village of Cedros, Faial also had a
note posted regarding Jose Francisco Alcaide
who was born in Vila da Madalena, Pico. The
alcunha, Alcaide translates as mayor.

Here is the note in Portuguese:
NOTA: O sobrenome ou alcunha Alcaide surge no registo de nascimento
(baptismo) do neto Salvador, filho de pai incógnito e de sua filha Inácia
Luísa. Recebeu todos os divinos sacramentos e foi sepultado no corpo da
igreja(sic), junto à grade, em frente do Bom Jesus, na Igreja Paroquial de
Santa Barbara. O padre não diz se o finado teve ou não acompanhamento.
Faleceu com 65 anos de idade pouco mais ou menos, segundo diz o padre.

Here is the google translation: a bit wild but good :)
NOTE: The name or nickname Mayor
appears on the birth registration
(Baptism) Salvador's grandson, son of father
Incognito and his daughter Inacia
Louise. Received all the divine
sacraments and was buried in the body of
church (sic) next to the grid in front of
Bom Jesus, in the Parish Church
Santa Barbara. The priest does not say whether the deceased
or had not followed up.
He died at age 65, more or
less, he says the priest.

Antonio Francisco de Medeiros is my 2nd cousin, 4x's removed

Hope this helps a bit.

Pat

At 10:59 PM 3/30/2011, you wrote:
Can someone look at this and tell me if I have
the right record? It should be the baptismal
record for Antonio Francisco de Medeiros born 10
Aug 1829 and baptized on 13 Aug 1829. His
parents were Jose Francisco de Medeiros and
Marianna Benarda. His grandparents were Vincente
Jose de Medeiros and Maria Silveira and Jose
Francisco Alcaide and Catarina Inacia. He was
born in Cedros on the island of Faial. I think I
am reading the names and dates correctly but I am not very good at it yet.

Any and all translation will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Jacki

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New records uploaded CCA site for island of Pico

2011-03-05 Thread Patricia Butcher

When I went to the Azores in 2001 the Pico records were housed in 
Horta, Faial not Terceira. Has that changed? Thanks..


Patricia
At 06:12 PM 3/4/2011, you wrote:
The Azores is divided into 3 districts each with its own 
archive:  Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel which houses the Sao Miguel 
and Santa Maria records.  Angra on Terceira which houses Terceira, 
Graciosa, Sao Jorge, and Pico.  Horta on Faial houses Faial, Flores, 
and Corvo.  Archives have records that are generally 100 years old or older


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Celestino

2011-02-05 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Ally,
No one in my Faial file with the Celestino name but do have these 
similar names from Pico.


Ines Celestina b.1756 in Sao Mateus, Pico, daugh of Mateus Vieira 
Fagundes  Domingas Rodrigues, both of Pico.


Also have a Rosa Celestina b. 1757 in Sao Mateus, Pico, daugh of 
Estevao Pereira Sarmento  Isabel Silveira, both of Sao Mateus.


Patricia

At 10:52 PM 2/2/2011, you wrote:

Pat and Shirley,

Did one of you have a Celestino from Faial, born in 1893?

Ally

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Castlewood, CA

2011-01-30 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Ally,
Interesting picture!!! Wow! I spent my honeymoon at Castlewood
Country Club in Pleasanton in 1966. Imagine being at a golf
tournament on your honeymoon. I married a golfer. :)

Patricia

At 08:09 AM 1/30/2011, you wrote:
The attached photo is for anyone who may have an ancestor who worked
for Phoebe Aperson Hearst, at her Hearst Hacienda in Pleasanton, CA.
in the early 1900's. This photo was before the fire and the estate
is now called Castlewood Country Club.

From comparing old family pictures Patsy and I think that the men
standing 4th from the left, 4th from the right, and sitting far
left and far right, are all Anselmo's. We do know that five of the
brothers worked as gardeners and one brother in law was a domestic
servant inside.

If this picture is a hit for anyone and you are interested in more
info on P. A. Hearst and her generosity to her workers and their
families, I'd be glad to share.

Ally
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Padro, Sao Miguel
Pinheiro and Nunes of Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas

2010-12-21 Thread Patricia Butcher

From the wet rainy Las Vegas desert, I'm sending Christmas
Blessings wishes for a healthy happy new year to all my wonderful
Azores friends.

Will be leaving Las Vegas for Spain on Dec 24th and was told by my
cousin to bring a rain coat. Yes, 'the rain in Spain is happening!!
Told her that this desert rat does not own a rain coat but will bring
my plastic poncho. New years will be in Lisbon. Looking forward to
some Fado Clubs

Merry Christmas to All!!

Pat

At 04:58 PM 12/21/2010, you wrote:

I asked my husband for a plane ticket to Mazatlan for Christmas but he
said he already bought my Christmas present.a warm, fuzzy,
waterproof jacket for this @(#*$*Z^%%^@*# weather we are having here
in Sacramento and it is not returnable. I am happy we have a home on
a hill as otherwise I'm afraid we might be flooded out in a few more
days. Come to think of it, this hill could give way...who
knows

Well, Sam, have a chocolate martini on the patio overlooking the ocean
for memake that a few, for all of us weather-ravaged people! It
could be worse, though, we could be stuck at the airport in London for
days.

MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR. Not too sure about the Merry and
Happy though

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Someone Found Me

2010-10-31 Thread Patricia Butcher

Dear Ally,
What a heartwarming story! I loved reading it!!

Pat
Las Vegas, NV

Researching in Faial Pico

At 08:14 PM 10/30/2010, you wrote:

Just wanted to share a hit with all of you.

My Mother got a letter with an early 1900's picture of a family with
11 children ( my Mother gave me the same picture years ago). The
letter was from a gentleman in Elk Grove, CA who received the letter
from a woman in TX doing family research on relatives who moved to
CA in the 1920's. This man, who also has done research on his
family with the same surname, knew this wasn't his family. He went
on to trace down my Mother and sent the letter and picture on to her
with a note I think this belongs to you. My Mother is now in her
80's and how he located her since her name has changed more than
twice is in itself a story of a dedicated good Samaritan researcher.

My Mother phoned Joyce (76), in TX. They shared stories and my
Mother told her how interested I am in genealogy, that I have been
trying to do research and that I had hit a wall and couldn't go any
further than my Grt. Grandfather. They all just disappeared.

As it turns out, my newfound cousin, Joyce, has been doing research
for the passed 30 some years. Her and another cousin would take one
or two week vacations and go back in history to where ever they
needed to go. They researched, and documented every town record,
bible, storyteller, library, school record, deeds, wills and
compiled a book beginning in 1702 forward. Our family was the
missing link to one of the 11 children in the picture. I was so
happy to send her all the info and docs that I have collected to
complete her work.

Even more. It seems that one of the 11 children's wife, didn't like
the her inlaws and when Grt. Grandma died, this she set fire and
was burning all the family pictures and china when the other family
members drove up to the old home after the funeral.

I sent Joyce what few family pictures I had. Joyce sent copies on
to her cousins (e-mail is so great). She wrote back and shared that
all the cousins haven't come down to earth yet as they are so
thrilled with pictures that they thought were lost forever. Four of
the pictures that I sent were of Joyce's Father that she had never seen before.

And yes, she is sending me a copy of her book: )

Ally Vieira Anselmo Chacon
Sao Miguel Faial

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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: family search, record search pilot

2010-09-28 Thread Patricia Butcher

Thank you Judi Phillips for your post about the record search 
pilot  on www.familysearch.org Although I have used their PAF 
program for 10 years, I haven't visited their site in quite some 
time. I wasn't aware of all their new features  information 
available online. Your post prompted me to look once again for my 
elusive great aunt, Maria Rosa Jorge. She has been my brick wall for 
over 8 years. Although I have her Cedros, Faial birth record and 
passport record from 1893, I could never find a trace of her in this 
country. A distant cousin told me she had married young. Another aunt 
told me she came to her brothers funeral in RI, in1950. No one seemed 
to know much about her. She would have been 68yrs old then. Well, lo 
 behold, yesterday, while checking out that feature, family search pilot,

I found a 1900 Fairhaven, MA death record for Maria P George.
The parents are correct  birth date is just a year off. She was only 
19 yrs old when she died. (actually 18 according to her birth record) 
This sounds like her. Waiting to hear back from the New Bedford 
library for more details. I don't have Ancestry to check for more 
details. Keeping my fingers crossed as I have done countless searches 
for this one great aunt hoping to find new cousins, but because of 
misinformation I was searching in the wrong time frame. Thanks again 
Judi for that post :) :)


Patricia

Las Vegas, Nevada




At 01:28 PM 9/27/2010, you wrote:

Barbara,
Go to http://www.familysearch.orgwww.familysearch.org.  Under 
search click on Record Search Pilot.  Put in Theresa Faria with 
the dates 1905-1915 in Fall River, MA.  You will find copies of the 
death certificates of 5 children with parents names, dates of birth 
and death and cemeteries.
The father is listed as Simao Augusto and the mother Theresa Faria 
or Theresa Viveiros.  All the addresses are Underwood St., Fall River.
The children are buried in St. John's cemetery and St. Francis 
Cemetery.  St. Francis has the records for St. John's.
The birth and death records after 1915 are not on line yet, so I 
can't find your grandmothers death or your mother's birth.
Simao is a rare name.  I'm pretty sure this is correct.  If you look 
in the Fall River street directory on Ancestry, you may be able to

track the family.
Good luck.
Judi


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I would love to take a look, maybe she did lose all those children 
before my mother and aunt were born.  Where did you find the 
records?  Thank you.


Barbara T.

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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias/Viveiros of Sao Miguel and Fall River
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:37 AM
I should have mentioned, the mother's name on the death certificates 
was Theresa Farias.  I have the names and dates of the children and 
where they are buried if you want them.


 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 22:31:40 -0700
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias/Viveiros of Sao Miguel and Fall River
 From: one...@yahoo.com
 To: azores@googlegroups.com

 I am 72 and trying in vain to find my family roots. My grandmother
 died in Massachussetts about 1917 or so. I suspect she was born about
 1895 give or take 5 years. I can not find any record of her
 death,birth or marriage. Or my mothers birth certificate (she was
 born in the US). I suspect Santo Christo Church in Fall River should
 have a record, but I do not know how to get it. I know my grandmother
 and my grandfather came from Sao Miguel around Punta del Garda. His
 name was Sameao Viveiros, hers was Teresa Frias although she may have
 Maria as her first name.
 Any one have any suggestions?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial

2010-09-15 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Jacki,
How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line of descendants 
starting with Francisco. If you need more details you can contact me privately.


Francisco Gomes b.1634
Gregorio Duarte
Domingas Pereira
Manuel Francisco Furtado de Mendonca
Domingos Antonio de Mendonca
Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobr
Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b.1824
Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. 1868
Isabel Louise Perry (my mother)

Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

At 01:01 PM 9/14/2010, you wrote:
Wow Patricia,  that is the first time I have come accross someone 
with a common relative in this side of my family. He is my 8th 
ggrandfather. That definitely makes us cousins. ;)


I also found the record for his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug 
1689 (my 6th ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth 
record though for either one though.


Jacki

Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help

Hi Jacki,
Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I have his birthdate in 
my file as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if you figure 
out the day. Thanks!!


Patricia

At 11:06 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote:

Can anyone make out what this says.

There is also a larger version that may be easier to see, on my 
family website here: 
http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htmhttp://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm


 I am trying to make sure I have the right record.

It should be the baptismal record for Francisco Gomes baptized 20 
Aug 1634. His parents were Lazaro Gomes and Barbara Duarte. 
Baptised at Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, Cedros Faial.


With my limited ability to read the old portuguese, I'm only pretty sure.

Thanks for the help

Jacki

Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial

2010-09-15 Thread Patricia Butcher

JR,
Good advice a reminder to all of us! Thank you!

Patricia

At 05:10 PM 9/15/2010, you wrote:

You should take note of the godparents. They appear to be related and
may help you later on. It says Padrinhos are: Fco (Francisco) Lemos
and Barbara Garsia mulher de Antonio Duarte todos desta fraguesia.
Antonio Duarte is probably the brother of Lazaro Duarte or related in
some other way.

On Sep 15, 1:42 pm, Patricia Butcher pereir...@cox.net wrote:
Hi Jacki,
How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line of descendants
starting with Francisco. If you need more details you can contact
me privately.

Francisco Gomes b.1634
Gregorio Duarte
Domingas Pereira
Manuel Francisco Furtado de Mendonca
Domingos Antonio de Mendonca
Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobr
Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b.1824
Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. 1868
Isabel Louise Perry (my mother)

Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

At 01:01 PM 9/14/2010, you wrote:

Wow Patricia, that is the first time I have come accross someone
with a common relative in this side of my family. He is my 8th
ggrandfather. That definitely makes us cousins. ;)

I also found the record for his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug
1689 (my 6th ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth
record though for either one though.

Jacki

Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help

2010-09-14 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Jacki,
Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I have his birthdate in
my file as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if you figure
out the day. Thanks!!

Patricia

At 11:06 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote:

Can anyone make out what this says.

There is also a larger version that may be easier to see, on my
family website here:
http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htmhttp://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm

I am trying to make sure I have the right record.

It should be the baptismal record for Francisco Gomes baptized 20
Aug 1634. His parents were Lazaro Gomes and Barbara Duarte. Baptised
at Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, Cedros Faial.

With my limited ability to read the old portuguese, I'm only pretty sure.

Thanks for the help

Jacki

Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help

2010-09-14 Thread Patricia Butcher

Regarding Francisco Gomes: Thanks George :)

At 11:59 AM 9/14/2010, you wrote:

Hi Pat

Only a Baptismal day the 20 day of August

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Patricia Butcher pereir...@cox.net wrote:
Hi Jacki,
Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I have his birthdate
in my file

as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if you figure out the day.
Thanks!!

Patricia

At 11:06 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote:

Can anyone make out what this says.

There is also a larger version that may be easier to see, on my family
website here: http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm

I am trying to make sure I have the right record.

It should be the baptismal record for Francisco Gomes baptized 20 Aug 1634.
His parents were Lazaro Gomes and Barbara Duarte. Baptised at Igreja
Paroquial de Santa Barbara, Cedros Faial.

With my limited ability to read the old portuguese, I'm only pretty sure.

Thanks for the help

Jacki

Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Rosa Jorge, Cedros, Faial

2010-07-19 Thread Patricia Butcher

Thank you John, for trying to be helpful by 
listing my ancestors from the Neps site. Maria 
Rosa, listed on the site, daughter of Thomas 
Pereira Jorge de Escobar  Maria Clara do Coracao 
de Jesus is actually, Maria Adelaide b. 1876 that 
married Jose Furtado Dutra. I provided this 
information to the researcher  it was entered 
incorrectly on the Neps site. Maria b. 1882 is 
actually Maria Rosa. I am searching for her 
descendents in the US. Unfortunately, without her 
married name this is difficult.
She immigrated in 1893 at 11yrs of age with her 
17yr old sister Maria Adelaide. Her older sister 
died in 1895 and by 1900, a census year, she may 
have been married. Thanks again.


Patricia
Las Vegas, NV


At 02:41 PM 7/18/2010, you wrote:



http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=P;v=tomas+pereira+jorgeTomás 
Pereira Jorge 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=N;v=de+escobarde 
Escobar




http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobar

 http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;
^^

   * Trabalhador/Lavrador
   * Nascido a 15 de Janeiro de 1824 - Freguesia de Cedros
   * Baptizado a 18 de Janeiro de 1824 - Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara
   * Falecido (11 DEZ 1891) - Freguesia de Cedros
   * Enterrado (12 DEZ 1891) - Cemitério Público de Cedros


Pais



   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobarAntónio 
Pereira Jorge de Escobar -
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=aurelia+rita+bernarda;n=de+escobarAurélia 
Rita Bernarda de Escobar 1794-1836



Casamentos e filhos



   * Casado a 6 de Março de 1848, Igreja 
Paroquial de Santa Barbara, com 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=angelica;n=rosa;oc=7Angélica 
Rosa -1863, tiveram
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=jose+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobarJosé 
Pereira Jorge
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=manuel;n=;oc=1170Manuel 
_ -
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio;n=;oc=1024António 
_
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio;n=;oc=1032António 
_
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=francisco;n=;oc=524Francisco 
_ -
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=filomena;n=;oc=35Filomena 
_
   * Casado (19 SET 1864), Igreja Paroquial de 
Santa Barbara, com 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria+clara+do+coracao;n=de+jesus;oc=4Maria 
Clara Do Coração de Jesus -, tiveram
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=francisco;n=;oc=413Francisco 
_ 1865-
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria;n=;oc=1546Maria 
_ -
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=tomas+pereira;n=jorge;oc=4Tomás 
Pereira Jorge 1868-
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=francisco;n=;oc=552Francisco 
_ -
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=manuel;n=perryManuel 
Perry 1874-
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria;n=rosa;oc=236Maria 
Rosa -
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=manuel;n=;oc=1337Manuel 
_ 1879-
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria;n=;oc=1719Maria 
_ 1882



Notas



   * NOTA: O Tomás recebeu todos os divinos 
sacramentos e não fez testamento.
   * Faleceu com cerca de 68 anos de idade e 
não 70 anos, como refere o padre.
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=R;p=tomas+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobar;oc=1Cálculo 
de parentesco


   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=A;p=tomas+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobar;oc=1Antepassados 

   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=D;p=tomas+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobar;oc=1Descendentes 

   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;m=C;p=tomas+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobar;oc=1Primos 

   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=antonio+pereira+jorge;n=de+escobar;oc=4Irmão 
precedente
   * 
http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS;lang=pt;p=maria;n=ameliaIrmã 
seguinte


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Rosa Jorge, Cedros, Faial

2010-07-18 Thread Patricia Butcher

To all my Azores friends,

Maria Rosa Jorge has been my brick wall for 8 years. I try to post
this on the list twice a year in hopes of a miracle. :)

My Great Aunt, Maria Rosa Jorge, daughter of
Thomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar Maria Clara do Coracao de Jesus
(also Maria Rosa on some records)
has been my brick wall for 8 years. I'm trying to locate her
descendants. All the above were from Cedros, Faial.

Maria Rosa Jorge was born 3-28-1882 in Cedros, Faial, Azores. She
immigrated in 1893 at 11yrs of age with sister, Maria Adelaide Jorge,
17yrs old, to RI. I have copies of this from the Passport book in
Horta. Her older sister, Maria Adelaide, married Jose Furtado Dutra,
also from Cedros, in Providence, RI. Maria Adelaide died less than
two years later in Jamestown, RI. Maria Rosa was only 13yrs old when
her sister died in 1895 in RI. No one in the family knows who she
lived with or had any contact with her for years. She was alive in
1950 at 68yrs of age. She surprisingly appeared at her brothers
funeral (Thomas Perry) in Jamestown, RI. I do not have her married
name but was told by a new found cousin on this list that she married
young. This family had lived in New Bedford, MA RI so I have been
searching both areas.

I have searched census records, family obituaries, a few cemeteries
ship lists for clues. Have not located her on any of these except for
the passenger list of the SS Vega ship that she her sister came
over on in 1893.

She could have used the name Perry. Maria Rosa Perry or Maria Jorge
(Maria Clara) or another variation. The double surnames are
challenging to work with. My goal is to find her U.S. marriage or
death record. I currently have her birth record and all other family
members birth, marriage death records. If anyone has any other
suggestions, I'd sure appreciate them. Thanks for reading this.

~Patricia~

P.S. grandparents of Maria Rosa Jorge are:
Antonio Pereira Jorge de Escobar Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobar
of Cedros, Faial.

Antonio Silveira Meirinho Maria Rosa of Cedros, Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Nancy Jean,
Looking through my files, I have a Frank Gracia from Fairhaven, Ma,
b. Sept 12, 1894, d. Jan 1969, Fairhaven. (from SS index) that was
married to Mary Perry Souza Gracia, my first cousin 1x removed. My
cousin, Mary's first husband was Manuel Souza. (no dates) The dates
don't match yours but you never know. I have no other details on her
two husbands.

Patricia

At 02:46 PM 7/12/2010, you wrote:

Greetings Group,

I'm searching for information regarding the Gracia family. I
have them located in the 1920 census but can't find a trace of any
of them after that census. Any help is appreciated.

Father is: Frank (Francisco) S. Gracia born in the Azores
in 1886 and arrived in New

Bedford in 1905

Mother is:Annie B. Graciaborn in New
Bedford in 1895

Known children: Mary GraciaNew Bedford around 1912

Annie Gracia New
Bedford around 1913

Lillian Gracia New
Bedford around 1917

Frank S. Gracia Jr. New
Bedford around 1918

Thank you,
Nancy Jean Baptista

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-10 Thread Patricia Butcher

Great post cousin Emil!!! Antonia de Bem Manuel Almeida, our
ancestors in common, from Cedros, Faial are my 8th ggrandparents.
Unfortunately, their birth dates ancestral origins are unknown
according to the notes that Faial researcher, Helder Oliveira, wrote.

Patricia

At 10:32 AM 7/10/2010, you wrote:

Repost for Emil: silveira.emil at http://gmail.comgmail.com

Hi to all,
I have listed the following referring to the de Bem found
in my file for anyone who is interested.

Antonia de Bem married to Manuel Almeida both born in
Cedros, Faial are my 9th great grandparents.

Antonio Rodrigues de Bem born abt 1658 in Pedro Miguel,
Faial married Catarina Ornelas born in Graciosa both died in Cedros, Faial.
Their son Joao Rodrigues de Bem born abt 1679 in Graciosa, married my 1st
cousin 8 times removed, Maria da Rosa born in Cedros, Faial.

Catarina Dias de Bem born abt 1659 in Pedro Miguel, Faial,
married Domingos Goncalves o Velho born Jan 1631 in Cedros, Faial.
He is my 1st

cousin 9 times removed.

Joao Antonio de Bem born in Santo Antonio, Pico, married
Paula Santo Antonio born in Santo Antonio, Pico. Their son Joaquim
Antonio Brum

Silveira born abt 1756 in Santo Antonio, Pico married Mariana Bernarda
Bettencourt born Jul 21, 1745 in Castelo Branco, Faial. She is my 4th
cousin 5 times removed.

Pedro Rodrigues de Bem, son of Antonio Rodrigues de Bem and Catarina
Ornelas shown above,

also married a Catarina Ornelas and had a daughter who was Catarina Silveira
she married Amaro Pereira Lacerda born abt 1625. He is my 1st cousin
10 times removed.

These lines are still in process work as is all of my work,
but my assumption is that my de Bem families all came from Pico.

Emil Silveira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Genealogy - Pimentel/Pementel from St. Michaels

2010-06-10 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Again Donna,
So glad you are looking for your ancestors. All of these names you
mentioned are people I knew on the island. (Jamestown, RI) I am
excited that you are doing the research. I told Jim Pemantell (this
is how Jim spells his name) that this list would be so helpful to him
if he ever wanted to research his Sao Miguel ancestors as there seems
to be more info here on Sao Miguel than any other island. How
wonderful that you have taken on the task! As far as I know I have no
connections to Sao Miguel but this list will certainly be able to
help you. They are a wonderful group of people and so willing to
share records and information.

Patricia
Las Vegas, Nevada

At 02:39 PM 6/9/2010, you wrote:
Looking for my grandmother's family from St. Michael's. Her father
was August Furtado Pimentel (also spelled Pementel and Pemantell
within the same family members here in US) born in St. Michael's
approx. 1875. His wife was Angelina DasMerces Estrella born about
1881. They left from San Miguel Portugal in early 1900's and
arrived in Bermuda and then onto New York and finally settled in
Jamestown, Rhode Island. Their children were John approx. 1899,
Mary approx. 1901, Ruben approx. 1903, Manuel approx. 1905 all born
in St. Michaels and Mary D'Estrella or Mary Fatado approx. 1906 born
in Bermuda, Frank 12/16/1907 in Bermuda, Lillian Esther or Estrella
7/11/1909 in Bermuda and Lucy Rose approx. 1911, Irene approx. 1913,
James Ernest 2/15/1915, Albert 3/25/1917 and William August
5/19/1918 born in Jamestown, RI. Any information you could forward
would be helpful.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Genealogy - Dutra in Faial

2010-06-10 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hello Donna,
I have your families ancestry. The Furtado Dutras from Cedros, Faial
are cousins of mine. Medeos, Faial? Could this possibly be Cedros,
Faial? I grew up in Jamestown, RI and my great Aunt, Maria Adelaide
Jorge b.1876 came from Cedros, Faial. She came to RI to marry your
ggrandfather's brother, Jose Furtado Dutra in 1893. Unfortunately,
Maria Adelaide died less than 2 years later in Jamestown, RI at
19yrs of age of typhoid fever. Your great uncle, Jose Furtado Dutra,
didn't marry again till 5-6 years later to another Maria. Their
descendants still live in Jamestown. We may have met in the past?

Your great grandfather, Francisco, did pass away in Cedros, Faial,
May 21, 1926. Unfortunately, in my file I only have one child listed
for your great grandparents, Francisco Furtado Dutra Maria Rosade (
Maria do Rosario Conceicao) and that is Antonio, born Nov 9, 1900. I
did not have your grandfather, Manuel's birthdate.

I will send more information to you.

Patricia Howe Butcher
Las Vegas, Nevada

At 02:28 PM 6/9/2010, you wrote:
Looking for my grandfather's family from Faial. His name was Manuel
Furtado Dutra born in Medeos, Faial on December 23, 1904 as our
records have it. His father was Frank or Francisco Furtado Dutra
born in Faial or possibly St. Georges approx. 1870's and passed away
approx. 1926 in Faial. His mother was Maria Rosade or Maria
Dorocario born approx. 1875 and passed away approx. 1977 in
Faial. They had children named Manuel Furtado Dutra, Joseph, Tony,
Frank, Henry, another named Manuel, and 2 sisters whose names are
unknown who died very young. Manuel Furtado Dutra (the first born,
my grandfather) came to Providence, Rhode Island aboard the ROMA
arriving in April or May 1917 when he was 13 years old. The ROMA
departed from Horta. He settled in Jamestown, RI. His brothers Joe
and Frank settled in California, although I have no other info on them.

Hope someone out there can help me out.
Donna Dutra Wood

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford, MA 1961 yearbook

2010-05-21 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hello Listers,
A new friend of mine, not Portuguese, graduated from New Bedford, Ma 
High School in 1961. There were over 600 students  more than half 
were of Portuguese descent.
Yesterday, I had the time of my life looking through his yearbook at 
all the faces  names of the graduates. He couldn't understand why I 
was so fascinated with his yearbookeven after I explained to him 
my passion for my Portuguese genealogy research. Of course my Azores 
google friends can relate to this! I'm sure that I looked upon a few 
distant cousins that I haven't found the connection to yet as New 
Bedford is where my Pico  Faial grandparents were married  lived 
for several years.


If anyone on the list thinks they may have a connection or a clue 
that could be found in this 1961 New Bedford high school yearbook, 
please let me know. I would be happy to search through it for you.



Patricia
Las Vegas, Nevada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: George J Vieira obit....

2010-04-06 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hello Kaylene,
Thanks for re-posting your information. Nothing rings a bell but I 
will check with some of the Vieira family back in RI to see if they 
have any additional info that I do not have.


Patricia

At 04:56 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

Hi Patricia

Yes, I have posted this before...but had no luck - keen to try again

My g g grandfather was Joseph Vieria (also known as William Joseph 
Simmiss born approx 1848 in Portugal, profession = sailor, married 
Susan Eliza Davy or Davey  on Aug 22 1887 in Nelson, NZ


his father - my g g g grandfather, as mentioned - was Joseph Vieria, 
a labourer, and his mother was Theresa??? Vieria, maiden name 
Simmiss.  I think that Joseph (g g g grandfather) died March 1886 as 
on his sons marriage licence it shows his mother as a widower.  I 
assume that she then took her maiden name again as we are of 
Simmiss, maybe Simas line.


Can anyone shed some light on any of this as I need help as to how 
to move forward with my research


regards
Kaylene

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To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: George J Vieira obit

Hello Kaylene,
Do you have an approximate birth date for your ggg grandfather, 
Joseph Vieira? ..and more details. I'm sure you posted before 
but sorry I do not recall. I did a quick search but found no link. 
Good luck in your search.


Patricia

At 01:50 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

Hi Patricia

Just wondering in I am also a distant relation of George - my 
ancestors were from Portugal - not sure which island.
I have a g g g grandfather who was Joseph Vieria, wife Theresa 
Vieriacould there be a link??


I have been trying to research my family tree and I would love to 
find any thread to this family as I am at a loss as to where to try next.


regards
Kaylene Simmiss
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: George J Vieira obit

Just wanted to post George J Vieira's obit. He was a distant 
cousin of mine. His ancestors were from Cedros, Faial.
http://faganquinnfuneralhome.com:8080/mwf/main/Visitation.seam?visitationID=1839conversationId=526381http://faganquinnfuneralhome.com:8080/mwf/main/Visitation.seam?visitationID=1839conversationId=526381 


Patricia
Las Vegas, NV
P.S. Happy Easter to all!


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: George J Vieira obit....

2010-04-04 Thread Patricia Butcher



Just wanted to post George J Vieira's obit. He was a distant cousin 
of mine. His ancestors were from Cedros, Faial.


http://faganquinnfuneralhome.com:8080/mwf/main/Visitation.seam?visitationID=1839conversationId=526381http://faganquinnfuneralhome.com:8080/mwf/main/Visitation.seam?visitationID=1839conversationId=526381 



Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

P.S. Happy Easter to all!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: George J Vieira obit....

2010-04-04 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hello Kaylene,
Do you have an approximate birth date for your ggg grandfather, 
Joseph Vieira? ..and more details. I'm sure you posted before but 
sorry I do not recall. I did a quick search but found no link. Good 
luck in your search.


Patricia

At 01:50 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

Hi Patricia

Just wondering in I am also a distant relation of George - my 
ancestors were from Portugal - not sure which island.
I have a g g g grandfather who was Joseph Vieria, wife Theresa 
Vieriacould there be a link??


I have been trying to research my family tree and I would love to 
find any thread to this family as I am at a loss as to where to try next.


regards
Kaylene Simmiss
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From: mailto:pereir...@cox.netPatricia Butcher
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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:30 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: George J Vieira obit

Just wanted to post George J Vieira's obit. He was a distant cousin 
of mine. His ancestors were from Cedros, Faial.


http://faganquinnfuneralhome.com:8080/mwf/main/Visitation.seam?visitationID=1839conversationId=526381http://faganquinnfuneralhome.com:8080/mwf/main/Visitation.seam?visitationID=1839conversationId=526381 



Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

P.S. Happy Easter to all!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico

2010-01-06 Thread Patricia Butcher


Dear Kaylene, Janis  all list members,
Attached is my grandmother, Maria Conceicao Avila's ancestry from 
Ribeiras, Pico  a few surrounding villages. If it doesn't come 
through, I will send it to you privately. I would check names for you 
but just had surgery2 weeks ago  not spending too much time online 
just yet. All is well and I am thankful!!!


Patricia

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial, Manuel Clara Amelia Rose

2009-09-27 Thread Patricia Butcher

Does anyone have any clues or possible connections to the Manuel  
Clara Amelia Kaishada Rose (Rosa) line from Faial? This info below 
is from a second cousin of mine  is posted on Ancestry. I questioned 
the Kaishada name thinking perhaps it was casada from the 
priest's record  was translated incorrectly but this cousin insists 
that is what his grandmother told him. However, I still feel it is an 
error. Thanks...

Patricia




Ahnentafel, Generation No. 1

1.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I018Clara 
Mary ROSE was born 9 MAR 1888 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and 
died 1986 in Jamestown, RI. She was the daughter of 2. 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I024Manuel 
ROSE and 3. 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I025Clara 
Amelia KAISHADA. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I017Edward 
Robert BARRY 1905 in Newport, RI, son of Henry BARRY and Mary KEAVY. 
He was born 1886 in Rockline, Massachusetts, and died 1954 in Jamestown, RI.



Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2

2.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I024Manuel 
ROSE was born ABT. 1858 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and died 
WFT Est. 1893-1949 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal.

3.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I025Clara 
Amelia KAISHADA was born ABT. 1858 in Fayal, Azores Islands, 
Portugal, and died WFT Est. 1893-1953 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal.


Children of Clara Amelia KAISHADA and Manuel ROSE are:
1. 
i.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I018Clara 
Mary ROSE was born 9 MAR 1888 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and 
died 1986 in Jamestown, RI. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I017Edward 
Robert BARRY 1905 in Newport, RI, son of Henry BARRY and Mary KEAVY. 
He was born 1886 in Rockline, Massachusetts, and died 1954 in Jamestown, RI.

ii.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I026Manuel 
ROSE , Jr. was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, 
Portugal, and died WFT Est. 1883-1984.

iii.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I027Frank 
ROSE was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, 
and died WFT Est. 1883-1984.

iv.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I028Mary 
ROSE was born 1885 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and died WFT 
Est. 1922-1980 in Jamestown, RI. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I361Manuel 
COREY WFT Est. 1900-1934. He was born WFT Est. 1868-1896, and died 
WFT Est. 1922-1980 in Jamestown, RI.

v.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I029Isabel 
ROSE was born ABT. 1890 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and died 
WFT Est. 1922-1984. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I365??? 
MOITOZA WFT Est. 1904-1937. He was born WFT Est. 1871-1897 in Fayal, 
Azores Islands, Portugal, and died WFT Est. 1923-1982 in Santa Clara, CA.

vi.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I392Female
 
ROSE was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, 
and died WFT Est. 1882-1987 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal.

vii.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I393Male
 
ROSE was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, 
and died WFT Est. 1882-1987.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors, Maria Rosa Jorge

2009-08-25 Thread Patricia Butcher

Maria Rosa Jorge is my brick wall. I try to post this on the list
twice a year in hopes of a miracle. :)

My Great Aunt, Maria Rosa Jorge, daughter of
Thomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar Maria Clara/Maria Rosa
has been my brick wall for 8 years. I'm trying to locate U.S.
descendants. All the above were from Cedros, Faial.

Maria Rosa Jorge was born 3-28-1882 in Cedros, Faial, Azores. She
immigrated in 1893 at 11yrs of age with sister, Maria Adelaide Jorge,
17yrs old, to RI. I have copies of this from the Passport book in
Horta. Her older sister, Maria Adelaide, married Jose Furtado Dutra,
also from Cedros, in Providence, RI in 1893. Maria Adelaide died less
than two years later in Jamestown, RI. Maria Rosa was
only 13yrs old when her sister died in 1895. No one in the family
knows who she lived with or had any contact with her for years. She
was alive in 1950 at 68yrs of age. She surprisingly appeared at her
brothers funeral in Jamestown, RI. I do not have her married name but
was told she married young. This family lived in New Bedford, MA RI
so I have been searching
both areas.

I have searched census records, obituaries, a few cemeteries ship
lists for clues. Have not located her on any of these except for the
passenger list of the SS Vega ship that she her sister came over on
in 1893. Have also searched several RI New Bedford area churches
for marriage records.

She could have used the name Perry. Maria Rosa Perry or Maria Jorge,
Maria Clara or another variation. The double surnames are
challenging to work with. My goal is to find her marriage or death
record. I currently have her Cedros, Faial birth record and all other
family members birth, marriage death records. If anyone has any
other suggestions, I'd sure appreciate them. Thanks for reading this.

~Patricia~

Las Vegas, NV
At 09:13 AM 8/25/2009, you wrote:
As Celeste Perry has recently posted about a brick wall ancestor, I
thought I'd mention this topic.

Post about your brick wall ancestor even if you posted about them 6
months ago. Or a year ago. I think a couple of you have it written
on your calendar about posting about yours, because I see them every
so often. New things come out now with so much digitizing. I think
we mention the CCA site at least monthly because of new members and
because people who are stuck at a brick wall may not initially
realize that some sources are worth searching.

Some queries do fall flat on their initial request. It takes some
time to figure out how to write a query to a list (any list, not
just this one) and get a response. A query of Looking for Manuel
de Mello, someone help me will not get much of a response. Listing
your ancestors dates (birth, marriage, death or any timeline dates
that you have (e.g. he lived in New Bedford during the 1910s), who
he was married to, kids, and places you have found him is much more
helpful and is more likely to get people to answer you back.

Brick wall ancestors (and for many of us, it's the immigrant
ancestor) are hard to research. You'll have to try one suggestion
at a time. I mentioned in a previous post that it took me 4 years
and 25 documents for me to figure out my brick wall/immigrant
ancestor. I think that with all the stuff coming on the Internet
now, it would be more like 2 weeks to find him. Pretty amazing how
much this hobby has progressed since I started in 1992.

For more information on researching brick wall/ immigrant ancestors,
look at my how to article posted on the Azores Genweb:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.htmlhttp://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some new-comer questions: Jorge line

2009-07-18 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Ben,
Or perhaps I should say hello cousin! Sebastio Jorge born in 
Lomba, Flores is my 6th ggrandfather. I will send my Cedros line to 
your email address so we can see how we connect.

John Vasconcelos, a great contributor to the list  very 
knowledgeable about the island of Flores gave this information
in a previous email that I saved:

Regarding Flores research: I think probably the most unfortunate 
island for researchers, myself included

And he went on to list the villages  the dates that records were 
available as follows:

Caveira...Records for baptism begin 1834 and marriages 1833.
  Cedros...Baptisms begin 1799, marriages 1840
  Faja Grande...Baptisms 1861, marriages 1860
  Fajazinha...Baptisms and marriages begin 1702.
  LajedoBaptisms begin 1826, marriages 1860.
  Lajes...Baptisms begin 1757, marriages 1763.
  Lomba...Baptisms begin 1844, marriages 1860.
  Mosteiro...Baptisms and marriages begin 1851.
  Two of the best parishes
  Ponta Delgada...Baptisms and marriages begin 1675.
  Santa Cruz...Baptisms begin 1681, marriages 1675.

John also stated that Lomba, Flores was one of the oldest original 
parishes on the island  many of their records were missing, lost or???

A big challenge for many of us with Lomba, Flores ancestors.

Patricia




At 10:21 PM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
Patricia,

Thank you so much!  Just from that I was able to find a further two 
generations beyond what we knew and also that we have the addition 
of de Escobar when I get back quite a ways.  I am really excited.

The names that I have on my line from Cedros are:
Manuel Pereira George
Jose Pereira George
Francisco Pereira Jorge
Joao Pereira Jorge
Joao Pereira Jorge de Escobar

and the new ones
Antonio Jorge
Sebastiao Jorge

Antonio and Sebastiao are both from Flores, so we had some island 
hopping going on.  I would love to find out if any of you have those 
names in your line.

Thanks again,

Ben

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Providence, RI cemeteries more..

2009-02-08 Thread Patricia Butcher


Thanks Emil, I was just going to tell Sam that Al Rose is a distant 
cousin and she may be too. Thanks so much, Emil!!

Pat

At 01:07 PM 2/8/2009, you wrote:

Hi Sam and Pat,

Just as a point of interest Al Butch' Rose is a 9th cousin of 
yours  Pat and Also my 8th cousin once removed. So it seems that you 
Sam would also be our Cousin.

Emil



 Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote:

=

Hi Pat;  I'm afraid I was just haystack searching.  My ggrandmother 
was Ana Amelia (not sure if it was spelled with an A or an E) Silva 
married to Jose Manuel Fraga.  They lived in East Providence and my 
cousin, Al Rose and I have never found which island either of them were from.

Thanks for the reply and good luch in your search.

Sam in CA :-)



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Emil Silveira

Researching:
AREAS; Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, Terceira, Brazil, and Prince 
Edward Island, Canada
SURNAMES: Silveira, Dutra, Avila, Moitoso, Medeiros, Rodrigues, 
Fialho, Goulart, Silva, Evangelho, Enes, Machado, Correia, Homem, 
and McLeod to name a few.



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Providence, RI cemeteries...

2009-02-07 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Sam,
Thanks for asking...but I do not know her siblings names...just her 
anglicized parents names. She died in childbirth in Providence with 
her 3rd child in 1886. I personally knew Rosa Amelia  Ernesto's 
daughter, Amelia, b.12 Dec 1882 in Providence. She was only 3yrs old 
when her mother died. She married Manuel Silveira Meirinho b. 22 
April 1880,Cedros, Faial. The marriage took place in RI...I believe, 
but don't have the record.

Patricia


At 09:10 PM 2/6/2009, you wrote:

Hi Patricia;  Just as a real long shot, do you know the names of Rosa
Amelia's sisters?  Thanks, Sam in CA

-Original Message-
From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Patricia Butcher
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:20 PM
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Providence, RI cemeteries...


Hi Judi,
How nice of you to reply. I knew someone would have the cemetery
details for me. I have all the marriage  death info on Rosa Amelia
Silva that died in Providence in childbirth (3rd child) in 1886.
(from RI archives) She was married to Ernesto da Rosa Vieira from
Cedros, Faial. He then returned to Cedros  remarried. Many of his
children returned to the US. I grew up with this family, distant
cousins, but we could never find Rosa Amelia's ancestry. (born Faial)
or her grave site. Her parents names were so shortened  anglicized
in the records. Example:
Rosa Amelia, dau of Francis  Isabella Thomas.

Rosa Amelia  Ernesto da Rosa Vieira listed their daughter Amelia
born in 1882 as Amelia Silva. Perhaps this was from mother's maternal line?

Thanks again!!

Patricia

   At 05:08 PM 2/5/2009, you wrote:
 Hi Pat, That depends on whether or not they stayed in the
 parish.  The closest catholic cemetery is St. Francis, 202
 Smithfield Ave., Pawtucket.  They started burials in 1871. The phone
 number is 401/724-3130.  If you know the name and exact date, you
 should be able to find the exact lot thru the Diocese office at
 401/944-8383.   There are a lot of names of people interred there on
 website called findagrave.  Sorry I don't have the exact address.  Good
Luck.
 Judi Phillips
 
   Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:13:47 -0800
   To: Azores@googlegroups.com
   From: pereir...@cox.net
   Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Providence, RI cemeteries...
  
  
   Does anyone have any idea what cemetery that someone would be buried
   at that died in 1886 in Providence, RI? They married at St Joseph's
   church on Hope St there in 1875. Portuguese of course. :) Thanks
  
   Patricia
  
  
  





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Providence, RI cemeteries...

2009-02-06 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Judi,
I have all the RI archive marriage  death records on Rosa 
Amelia...very detailed but no cemetery is listed. I was in touch with 
Kenneth Carlson via email there several years ago. Thanks for trying 
to help. May try again...you never know.

Patricia

At 06:36 AM 2/6/2009, you wrote:

Hi Pat,
If you know the name and exact date of death, contact the RI State
Archives, 337 Westminster St., Providence, RI at
401/222-2353.  They have all vital statistics over 100years.  They
sent me a copy of my uncle's death record in 1912 with the cemetery
listed.  Good Luck,
Judi

On Feb 5, 6:13 pm, Patricia Butcher pereir...@cox.net wrote:
  Does anyone have any idea what cemetery that someone would be buried
  at that died in 1886 in Providence, RI? They married at St Joseph's
  church on Hope St there in 1875. Portuguese of course. :)   Thanks
 
  Patricia



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Providence, RI cemeteries...

2009-02-05 Thread Patricia Butcher


Does anyone have any idea what cemetery that someone would be buried 
at that died in 1886 in Providence, RI? They married at St Joseph's 
church on Hope St there in 1875. Portuguese of course. :)   Thanks

Patricia


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FW: From Espaço Talassa

2009-02-03 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Nancy Jean,
Thanks for the comments and information about the 
video. I will look for it at my library.

Patricia


At 02:18 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote:
Hi Patricia,
The last time we went out on Serge's boat we 
were surrounded by very large pods of dolphins 
(3 different kinds) all playing with the boat! 
The same day we saw 5 sperm whales at close range!
PBS has a video called Sperm Whale Oasis that 
was filmed off of Pico and Fayal and has 
spectacular close up footage of these creatures. 
I borrowed my copy from our local librarydefinetly worth seeing!
I thought it was interesting that these most 
recent dolphins are usually in warmer oceans and 
not previously seen in the Azores until last summer.
Nancy Jean



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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FW: From Espaço Talassa

Thanks Nancy Jean for sharing that information  
the photo from Serge at Espaço Talassa. As a 
dolphin lover, I visited there in 2001  met 
Serge. It has been said that the Azores islands 
has more species of dolphins than anywhere else in the world.

Patricia

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mariza

2009-02-01 Thread Patricia Butcher


Thanks Herb! I love her music and have her on my MY Space site. 
Thanks for the update!!
Patricia

At 10:38 AM 2/1/2009, you wrote:

I thought I would pass this along

For those who like the fado music, Mariza is doing a US tour this
year.   She is a Grammy nominated artist and has performed in Carnegie
Hall, Central Park, the Sydney Opear House and Royal Albert Hall

Her mother is  Black African from Mozambique, and her father is
Portuguese.  She moved to Portugal when she was 3 and  grew up in the
Alfama district of Lisbon.  I was surprised to learn that she is
coming here to Richmond Virginia in April, and will be in New Bedford
for two nights in March  as well as in Turlock and Napa in late April
and  May.  You can also catch her in LA and NY

Even knowing this is not Mariza's first tour, it still is a remarkable
US Tour by a folk European artist:

See complete tour schedule below.

Herb



2009-02-14, Sat -- Chicago, IL
2009-02-19, Thu -- Amherst, MA
2009-02-20, Fri -- Fairfield, CT
2009-02-25, Wed -- Buffalo, NY
2009-02-27, Fri -- Greenvale, NY
2009-02-28, Sat -- New York, NY
2009-03-01, Sun -- Philadelphia, PA
2009-03-03, Tue -- Hanover, NH
2009-03-04, Wed -- Burlington, VT
2009-03-06, Fri -- Fairfax, VA
2009-03-07, Sat -- Pittsburgh, PA
2009-03-09, Mon -- Nashville, TN
2009-03-10, Tue -- Hampton, VA
2009-03-13, Fri -- New Bedford, MA
2009-03-14, Sat -- New Bedford, MA
2009-03-15, Sun -- New London, CT
2009-03-18, Wed -- Los Angeles, CA
2009-03-19, Thu -- Santa Barbara, CA
2009-03-21, Sat -- Savannah, GA
2009-03-27, Fri -- Ft. Lauderdale, FL
2009-03-28, Sat -- Miami, FL,
2009-03-29, Sun -- Atlanta, GA
2009-03-31, Tue -- Chapel Hill, NC
2009-04-01, Wed -- Richmond, VA
2009-04-03, Fri -- Germantown, TN
2009-04-04, Sat -- Fayetteville, AR
2009-04-05, Sun -- St. Louis, MO
2009-04-08, Wed -- Madison, WI
2009-04-10, Fri -- Cleveland, OH
2009-04-11, Sat -- Detroit, MI
2009-04-14, Tue -- West Lafayette, IN
2009-04-15, Wed -- Urbana, IL
2009-04-17, Fri -- Seattle, WA
2009-04-18, Sat -- Vancouver, BC
2009-04-20, Mon -- Vancouver, BC
2009-04-22, Wed -- Boulder, CO
2009-04-23, Thu -- Santa Fe, NM
2009-04-25, Sat -- Portland, OR
2009-04-26, Sun -- Eugene, OR
2009-04-28, Tue -- San Diego, CA
2009-04-30, Thu -- Napa, CA
2009-05-01, Fri -- Turlock, CA
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeirinha has been added to Faial Database - NEPS Databases

2009-01-25 Thread Patricia Butcher

Thanks so much Dee!!! I'm entering new data into 
my Cedros, Faial file. I found this discrepancy  hope SOMEONE can clarify it.
Cedros, Faial file states:

Ana Maria b. 8 August 1715, Cedros, Faial
The Ribeirinha, Faial site states she was born 
same date but in Salao, Faial  Her parents are 
the same in both files but different birth locations.
Cedros, Faial file states:
Manuel Alvernas b. Pedro Miguel (no dates)
Maria de Mendonca b, Cedros, Faial ( no dates)

Cedros file has further ancestry  Ribeirinha ends with Manuel
Alvernas  Maria de Mendonca, no further 
ancestors. Some of these are ancestors so I hope 
someone has an answer. Thanks...

Patricia


At 02:36 AM 1/25/2009, you wrote:
Ribeirinha was added to the Faial Database on 
January 22.  This is part of the Núcleo de 
Estudos de População e Sociedade Database --- 
http://www.uminho.pt/Universidade do Minho.  See below:

 
http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=ribeirinha;lang=enGenealogy 
- RIBEIRINHA

Enjoy..Doris

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Communicating with family for information

2009-01-19 Thread Patricia Butcher


Hi Michelle,
Pray about it. Keep it simple  send them what lines you have that 
would help them. Turn it over to the man upstairs  you never know 
what good will come from it  from whom. I believe that in sharing 
you will receive something in return. And it may not even be from 
them. Just my opinion  thoughts on this...and from my own 
experience. I wish you the best!

Patricia

At 11:00 AM 1/19/2009, you wrote:

Have been at a brick wall for a while trying to get more information
on Joseph Vera Perry  Emily B. Perry of Oakland, CA. Joseph was
married two times and from his second marriage had two daughters,
Patricia  Marie. Just recently found out that one of the daughters
(Patricia) passed away in 2003  regret her husband (Pat) in 2004 but
the other daughter (Marie) is still alive (88 years old) living in the
same area (Oakland). Through the internet managed to find a nephew 
niece of the Patricia  Pat. Contacted them  have been communicating
with them for the last two weeks. Was told that Patricia  Pat did not
have any children but Marie did have a daughter named Patricia aka/PJ.

This is the situation...PJ is apparently hesitant to share any info.
Her aunt (father's side) passed away in Sept so don't know if she
thinks I'm a relative coming out of the woodwork wanting something
from the estate or what. I've relayed to them that my only interest is
information and pictures. One response that was relayed to me was She
has requested that her mom not be contacted as she is now 88 and a bit
frail  her initial thought was you have the wrong family. But, she
wants to check thoroughly and then she'll give you a call. No call
yet.

This morning I received another email from the niece updating me and
this is what she said I have found pictures of Paul and Pat, but I
want to hear back from Patricia first before I send anything your way,
I hope you will understand (PJ requested this of me). I did find that
Aunt Pat went by the name of Patricia Vera Perry. I hope that Patricia
(PJ) will get back to you soon. With that said along with other
information I have I am now 100% sure I have the right family.

Thankfully, I did get a picture of Patricia  Pat before PJ put a stop
on getting anything else. Both nephew  niece have been very nice and
seemly willing to help until they involved PJ. The niece was the
executor to Pat's estate and she said she has a box of Paul's things
which she has now looked through and does have information that I
need. What I am hoping for is some help in how to respond to the email
to get her  PJ to share info  pictures. My cousin and I have already
had the pleasure of being sworn  yelled at by another relative (from
the first marriage) and told to never call again. I don't want to make
any mistakes with this family because they are our last hope as far as
pictures are concerned and of course breaking down the wall we've been
at for so long.

The niece is also working on their genealogy (part time) and has run
into a brick wall with Pat's side of the family. In two weeks I've
been able to go back 200+ years and find a lot of information that I'm
sure they would love to have. I also found a tree that Paul was
working on but I don't think the niece is aware of it. Regret his last
entry was in the mid 90's so anyone living at the time is hidden and I
can't gain access to it. Can I, should I use this as leverage with the
niece and if so what would be the best way to go about it if PJ
decides she doesn't want to share?  Just simply letting her know I've
traced back that far might be enough??? Should I provide them with as
much information I have on the Vera/Perry family or just a little
or  to make them feel more comfortable about sharing more? Any
suggestions would be much appreciated.

Sorry this was so long. I tried cutting it down as much as I could but
needed to explain the situation somewhat for a better understanding of
the situation.

Thank you,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: da Rosa in San Juan Bautista CA

2009-01-17 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Al,
Thanks for posting Mary Anne's email. I found another cousin!!
Take care...

Cousin Patricia

At 07:20 AM 1/17/2009, you wrote:
Hi Maryanne
On this note you have written that I have a Joseph da Rosa born oct
23 1877. I have over 6000 names on my data base with none born oct
23 1877. I have used the data base from the Azores which you
mentioned extensively. I also belong to a online group which deals
mainly with the Azores. The group address
is mailto:Azores@googlegroups.comazo...@googlegroups.com. You can
ask them to be included and that's all it takes. Send me your phone
number so I can talk to you

Al Sequeira

In a message dated 1/13/2009 5:47:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
maryanne_r...@msn.com writes:
Hello,

Old immigrant communities. San Juan Bautista?

My name is Mary Anne Rose and I have been doing genealogical
research on my da Rosa family since perhaps 2003, my cousin David
Wilson (b. 1940) got involved when he was in sixth grade and
interviewed my grandfather about his family, cousins, etc which is
hugely helpful. David's mother visited the Azores long before we
did in 2005, finding our great grandparents marriage certificate in
the Archives in Horal, Faial.

But I am more creative at internet research than he. . . so I was
able to build upon their research in different ways. And thus I am
contacting you. You have a

Joseph da Roza born

23 Oct 1877
San Juan Bautista, San Benito, CA

Bottom line, our grandfather Anthony Lawrence Rose (christened
Hollister CA in April 15, 1883) was of Azorean descent. His
godmother was Hyacintha Serpa, according to the priest, which my
research leads to connections to your family. i.e. Jacinta jessy de Serpa.

My grandfather's sister Minnie married Joseph Elmer Serpa (November
1874 - 1938), they had a son Elmer - who was my dad's first cousin
and I remember visiting cousin Elmer and his sons in Willow Glen
area of san jose, CA. Minnie and Joe Serpa are buried in St. Mary's
Cemetery in Gilroy. My great grandmother Rosa Gomes da Conceicao
born in Cedros, Faial, lived with them after her husband died in
1913 and she died about 1934. Her brother was Joseph Gomes who
married Rosa da Conceicao (Garcia da Rosa) and they lived with their
large family near Hollister. You have them listed in the tree notes
somewhere as well.

In any case, it was a very small Azorean community in San Juan
bautista and Hollister in San Juan Bautista. I have not been able to
make a connection with the other da Rosa family from the area, but
if they came at the same time as my great grandfather Manuel
Francisco da Rosa, I am sure they must be cousins, etc. My aunt told
me he left Faial about 1864 on a whaling ship and returned to Faial
in 1975 to marry his sweetheart in the village. I believe they came
from Cascalho, Cedros in Faial. My research at the Archives in Horta
bore out much of the family history.

On line there is much more available, though I believe there to be
transcription errors in this: If the link does not work you can
connect to the site through azores genweb, which is where I found
this. Took my family back 24 generations.

http://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=enhttp://sarmento.eng.uminho.pt/cgi-bin/geneweb?b=CEDROS;lang=en

So I will not write more until I find that you are still interested
in this research, or that this email still is valid. I live in
Manhattan in New York, so I am on the East Coast. My California
research has involved my visits home. And then to Faial.

Sincerely,

Mary Anne Rose

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford Churches

2009-01-09 Thread Patricia Butcher

Hi Nancy,
Found a website for St Lawrence Catholic church in New Bedford, Ma 
with beautiful photos. They even have one of Father Sullivan. Thought 
you might be interested. Here is the link:
http://www.saintlawrencemartyr.com/gallery/pages/photo1.htm

Still looking for my elusive great Aunt's marriage record, Maria Rosa 
Jorge. Have searched every church in New Bedford for the past 7 years 
except this one. Looks like I can email them. Thanks for the tip.

Patricia
Las Vegas, Nevada

At 02:24 PM 1/9/2009, you wrote:
Hi Cheri,
Well after your note I decided I'd call and clarify things. The 
priest, Father Sullivan answered the phone and after explaining 
everything he told me he'd look it up right then and call me back! 
So.he just called...found the record and he said that that far 
back 1866 they didn't put down all the info like they began doing 
later. It had my ggrandparents names but not their parents or 
villages. Anyway, he's sending me a copy of it and suggested I get a 
copy from the state. The civil record that I found on NEGHS was how 
I found the date of the marraige and the fact that Josephs father 
was Antone Pereira and his mother Zabina de Jesus.I can't quite 
read the mothers name of Rosa Luiza.it looks like Hannah which 
doesn't seem Portuguese but it does say she's from Pico which is 
what the family says.the priest said her last name could be 
Luza.my family says either Gracia or Furtado..I just don't know!
I'm putting my check in tomorrows mail and appreciate the gracious 
help they gave me so much!
Thanks for the nudge!
Nancy




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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:13:14 -0800
From: gfsche...@gmail.com
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford Churches

Nancy,

The church will send you a fill in the blank certificate that they 
would hand to a bride and groom today.  It will say that the bride 
married the groom by the priest on this date and the witnesses 
were.  If you want to know if the village was recorded in the 
marriage book, you could ask if that information was noted in the 
marriage book and if so, you need to ask for a xerox copy from the 
book and if that is not possible, a typed transcription that also 
includes any margin notes.  Tell them that you are sending a 
donation to the church and then do it (it helps the rest of us genealogists).

Cheri


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Feliz Natal / Merry Christmas

2008-12-25 Thread Patricia Butcher


Elaine,
Wish I did have some of that delicious Port wine. When I visited the 
church of Santa Barbara in Ribeiras, Pico in 2001, the new young 
priest invited me into his home for some refreshment. Was so 
surprised when it turned out to be a small glass of Port wine. Have 
never tasted anything so good!!

Merry Christmas to all the wonderful members of the list. I want to 
thank each and everyone of you for the help you have given me over 
the years. May your 2009 be filled with many blessings, good health  
happiness.

Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

At 09:02 PM 12/24/2008, you wrote:

Have yourselves a Very Merry Christmas and if your wine glass is
empty, fill it with some good Portuguese Port and toast our great list
moderator.

This List is the best and so are the Listmembers!

Elaine



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ancestor from Portugal to Australia

2008-12-10 Thread Patricia Butcher

Thanks for commenting, John. I had forgotten about the name, Vianna.

Pat

At 09:11 PM 12/9/2008, you wrote:
Lynne and Pat,
There is a Portuguese surname Vianna. Could it 
possibly have been that originally?
John Vasconcelos


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] ancestor from Portugal to Australia

Dear Listers,
Lynne Barnard from my Tipperary genealogy list 
asked for suggestions  help. I've sent her 
several websites to search. If anyone has any 
other suggestions, please contact Lynne at:

Lynne Barnard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here is her query:

I am looking for the Vienna family.  In particular Antonio Vienna
(Viena?...I found a website that advised that 
Viena (Vieira?) is the Portuguese
spelling?) born 1826 in Portugal (possibly Lisbon?) to Joseph Vienna and
Rose Rivers.

He died in Geelong Victoria Australia in 1893.

He married Catherine Hogan in Geelong Victoria Australia  22/07/1856.
Catherine was born 1834 in Tipperary, Ireland.  I have a copy of their
wedding certificate but it only confirms the parents names and lists
Portugal only, no town.

I cannot find Antonio on any shipping lists but his occupation is listed as
seaman.  One Australian distant relative has come to the conclusion that he
probably jumped ship here but this is only a guess.

He had a brother John Vienna born circa 1830 in Portugal and died in Geelong
Victoria Australia 1907.

Thanks again

Regards
Lynne Lynne Barnard 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] ancestor from Portugal to Australia

2008-12-08 Thread Patricia Butcher

Dear Listers,
Lynne Barnard from my Tipperary genealogy list asked for suggestions 
 help. I've sent her several websites to search. If anyone has any 
other suggestions, please contact Lynne at:

Lynne Barnard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here is her query:

I am looking for the Vienna family.  In particular Antonio Vienna
(Viena?...I found a website that advised that Viena (Vieira?) is the Portuguese
spelling?) born 1826 in Portugal (possibly Lisbon?) to Joseph Vienna and
Rose Rivers.

He died in Geelong Victoria Australia in 1893.

He married Catherine Hogan in Geelong Victoria Australia  22/07/1856.
Catherine was born 1834 in Tipperary, Ireland.  I have a copy of their
wedding certificate but it only confirms the parents names and lists
Portugal only, no town.

I cannot find Antonio on any shipping lists but his occupation is listed as
seaman.  One Australian distant relative has come to the conclusion that he
probably jumped ship here but this is only a guess.

He had a brother John Vienna born circa 1830 in Portugal and died in Geelong
Victoria Australia 1907.

Thanks again

Regards
Lynne Lynne Barnard [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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