Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General question

[Brian Margarit]

Thanks Cheri!

I'm going to take a swing at Legacy and see how it goes

On Monday, 16 December 2019 13:23:02 UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hi Brian M,
>
> You are talking about what us genealogists call genealogy software. You 
> will never get a consensus on the "strongest" no matter where you are 
> searching. It's like trying to poll people for the "best" car. We pick 
> whatever car suits us and our budgets best. So it is with genealogy 
> software.
>
> Currently, there are 2 groups of genealogy software out there. One is the 
> fully-featured genealogy software programs. This is a computer program that 
> lives on your computer. The most popular ones on the market today are 
> Family Tree Maker (https://www.mackiev.com/ftm/), Legacy Family Tree (
> www.legacyfamilytree.com), and RootsMagic (www.rootsmagic.com). Legacy's 
> "Standard Edition" is free. Download it and give it a try. RootsMagic's 
> Essentials is also free. Download that and give it a try. Family Tree Maker 
> doesn't have a free trial version. 
>
> The other group of genealogy software (if you want to call it that) is the 
> cloud based systems. They definitely aren't fully featured like the ones I 
> listed above. They are more of a display of your genealogy work. I believe 
> you need a monthly subscription if you are going to be working on your tree 
> for most of them. The most popular ones out there are Ancestry.com, 
> MyHeritage, and Geni.com. These online versions definitely have limitations.
>
> Some of the fully-featured genealogy software programs sync with My 
> Heritage. I don't know which one(s). You can always create a Gedcom on any 
> genealogy software and override your tree on My Heritage. My suggestion to 
> you would be to download Legacy and RootsMagic and play around with them. 
> Enter yourself, parents, and grandparents. Make a "mistake" and enter a 
> death date BEFORE the birth date to see how it handles it. Try thinking of 
> other "mistakes" that you typically make and see how the software handles 
> it. Then go with the software that grabs you. That's the software that is 
> for you. All have Gedcom format, so your work can be shared with others. 
> Right now, I believe Legacy and RootsMagic may be having a sale for the 
> holidays.
>
> If you want to know, my criteria for a genealogy program was if it 
> accepted diacritics (accented letters) and could take a place field that 
> was 19 or 20 characters long. This was in the mid-90s, when things were 
> more limited. Both are a non-issue now. My current criteria would be able 
> to search for the correct Maria de Jesus or Manuel Silva and to be able to 
> filter the program for groups of people. So I'd need an index that I could 
> customize so I could see all my Maria de Jesuses with various details 
> (birth and death dates, parents, and spouse are my favorite). And a 
> customizable filter. And UTF-8, which my old program didn't have. Your 
> criteria may be different.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:53 AM Brian Margarit  > wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I'm curious as to what platform everyone here prefers, or which is 
>> considered the strongest (especially for the Acores).
>>
>> I currently use MyHeritage, and I'm really happy with it.  I'll be 
>> keeping the account no matter what.  But does anyone have any input on an 
>> alternative or maybe a supplemental platform?  I have Ancestry years ago 
>> and haven't touched it since.  I've used Geneall a bit, but it didn't seem 
>> to be worth the trouble.  
>>
>> Any insights are greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Brian
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General question

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Brian M,

You are talking about what us genealogists call genealogy software. You
will never get a consensus on the "strongest" no matter where you are
searching. It's like trying to poll people for the "best" car. We pick
whatever car suits us and our budgets best. So it is with genealogy
software.

Currently, there are 2 groups of genealogy software out there. One is the
fully-featured genealogy software programs. This is a computer program that
lives on your computer. The most popular ones on the market today are
Family Tree Maker (https://www.mackiev.com/ftm/), Legacy Family Tree (
www.legacyfamilytree.com), and RootsMagic (www.rootsmagic.com). Legacy's
"Standard Edition" is free. Download it and give it a try. RootsMagic's
Essentials is also free. Download that and give it a try. Family Tree Maker
doesn't have a free trial version.

The other group of genealogy software (if you want to call it that) is the
cloud based systems. They definitely aren't fully featured like the ones I
listed above. They are more of a display of your genealogy work. I believe
you need a monthly subscription if you are going to be working on your tree
for most of them. The most popular ones out there are Ancestry.com,
MyHeritage, and Geni.com. These online versions definitely have limitations.

Some of the fully-featured genealogy software programs sync with My
Heritage. I don't know which one(s). You can always create a Gedcom on any
genealogy software and override your tree on My Heritage. My suggestion to
you would be to download Legacy and RootsMagic and play around with them.
Enter yourself, parents, and grandparents. Make a "mistake" and enter a
death date BEFORE the birth date to see how it handles it. Try thinking of
other "mistakes" that you typically make and see how the software handles
it. Then go with the software that grabs you. That's the software that is
for you. All have Gedcom format, so your work can be shared with others.
Right now, I believe Legacy and RootsMagic may be having a sale for the
holidays.

If you want to know, my criteria for a genealogy program was if it accepted
diacritics (accented letters) and could take a place field that was 19 or
20 characters long. This was in the mid-90s, when things were more limited.
Both are a non-issue now. My current criteria would be able to search for
the correct Maria de Jesus or Manuel Silva and to be able to filter the
program for groups of people. So I'd need an index that I could customize
so I could see all my Maria de Jesuses with various details (birth and
death dates, parents, and spouse are my favorite). And a customizable
filter. And UTF-8, which my old program didn't have. Your criteria may be
different.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:53 AM Brian Margarit <
analyticadvantag...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm curious as to what platform everyone here prefers, or which is
> considered the strongest (especially for the Acores).
>
> I currently use MyHeritage, and I'm really happy with it.  I'll be keeping
> the account no matter what.  But does anyone have any input on an
> alternative or maybe a supplemental platform?  I have Ancestry years ago
> and haven't touched it since.  I've used Geneall a bit, but it didn't seem
> to be worth the trouble.
>
> Any insights are greatly appreciated.
>
> Brian
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[AZORES-Genealogy] General question

[Brian Margarit]

Hey everyone,

I'm curious as to what platform everyone here prefers, or which is 
considered the strongest (especially for the Acores).

I currently use MyHeritage, and I'm really happy with it.  I'll be keeping 
the account no matter what.  But does anyone have any input on an 
alternative or maybe a supplemental platform?  I have Ancestry years ago 
and haven't touched it since.  I've used Geneall a bit, but it didn't seem 
to be worth the trouble.  

Any insights are greatly appreciated.

Brian

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Question

['Bob's AOL Accounts' via Azores Genealogy]

I have search the records on Family Search from the time period and expand it a 
few years before and after with no help, unless I am missing something I am not 
finding anything

Bob

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From: Aaron Pereira
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 11:12 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Question

Bob,
Have you tried both civil and catholic records?  I believe you can browse 
through both sets of records for that time period.  If the record you mentioned 
is from a catholic church, its just a matter of determining the civil parish it 
was registered in, or vice versa.  The record may give you more insight.  

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Bob,
Have you tried both civil and catholic records?  I believe you can browse 
through both sets of records for that time period.  If the record you mentioned 
is from a catholic church, its just a matter of determining the civil parish it 
was registered in, or vice versa.  The record may give you more insight.  

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Hi Group, so I have a general questions. I have family members from Terceira, 
but they have travel back and forth to Brazil. Some of my research has moved to 
Brazil now. So to my question, I have been using Family Search. But the one 
village I am looking at is Rio de Janeiro. I have not been able to find a death 
date for my 2x GGrandfather has not been found in Terceira so I have move it to 
Brazil which I found a document that showed he had passed away at the age of 
42, which make sense which is the year of his last child's birth. 1898-1899 for 
them. My question is this, does Brazil have a web site to look for records. 
"Family Search only has death Records for that village that goes up to 1890 and 
nothing past that, or am I looking at this incorrectly? I have tried different 
ways and still come up with nothing. I have found records for his wife which 
shows she passed away in Terceira in 1919. I have tried and google Brazil and 
the village and only come up with Family Search.
Thanks for the help.
Bob Camacho


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Question

[Edna Epps]

THANKS JOHN I didn’t know that!   Wishing everyone a Happy Easter!

Edna Lemos Epps
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Let them not have dominion over me. (Psalm 19:12-13)




On Mar 26, 2016, at 12:52 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

The church has always maintained that any Christian may baptize an  individual 
who is in danger of dying before he can be baptized by a priest or deacon. The 
formula must be exact "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son 
and of the Holy Spirit." Many babies were baptized at birth, usually by the 
"parteira" (the midwife) or some member of the family. Those baptisms were 
usually recorded by the priest in the parish registry. A sub condicione baptism 
is when the priest then re-baptizes the baby in case the original baptism 
performed at home was not valid for whatever reason (usually because the 
correct formula was not used). 

John Miranda Raposo


On Saturday, March 26, 2016 1:53 PM, linda  wrote:


hi Suzanne,

Can you provide a link for the record where the term appears?  

My understanding is that a baptism may be recorded "sub condicione" by a priest 
when it is the second baptism of an individual, and the priest has a concern 
that the first baptism might not have been performed exactly right-- such as a 
baptism done by a lay person.  The term describes the condition of the 
baptismal rite rather than that of the baby.

Linda

On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 10:24:47 AM UTC-7, Suzanne Edvalson wrote:
What does it mean when a baby was born sub condicianco?  Was this baby a 
preemie?  I get the general gist that the baby was born in less than ideal 
health, just wondering if there was something specifically wrong.

Thanks.
Suzanne
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What does it mean when a baby was born sub condicianco?  Was this baby a
preemie?  I get the general gist that the baby was born in less than ideal
health, just wondering if there was something specifically wrong.

Thanks.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Question about records

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You have to write to the Civil Registry. Hopefully you know the date.
It is item 2 on this link:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/genresources.html

Cheri Mello
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On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com
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 How do you retrieve someone's death record if they died after 1911? Is
 there a place to email that has this information?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Question about records

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How do you retrieve someone's death record if they died after 1911? Is there a 
place to email that has this information?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] General Question about records

[Sean Andrade]

Hi,

As I search through baptism records I came across people with only first 
names. If you look at the link on the bottom left and bottom right it looks 
like records for two different people named Ignacia: 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1805-1818/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1805-1818_item1/P5.html

My question is, if you are looking for someone with a common name and you 
don't know their parents or their dates of birth, death or marriage and the 
records aren't listing their second name or surnames, is there a way to 
dicier more information about who the person is? So using these two 
Ignacia's as an example, is there a line that maybe lists their second name?

Hope this question wasn't two confusing.

Sean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Question about records

[Cheri Mello]

Sean,

That's the way it works.a baby is baptized by first name ONLY. I think
in my 23 years so of research, I've seen only 1 baby with two given names.
It was someone who posted it recently on this list.

Start with what you know and work back. That way you will always have the
parents' names.

My ancestor was Manuel de Mello. Pretty common. Once I had his parents'
names, I went to his freguesia and started searching in 1889 working my way
back, stopping at every Manuel until I found mine in 1887 (he had multiple
birth dates). Then I collected ALL his siblings. I wanted to learn how to
read the writing AND to get used to the format of that time period. Also,
I pick up additional names or alcunhas of the parents (not this line, but
another line they went from Mello to Mello Barboza).

Cheri

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On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 As I search through baptism records I came across people with only first
 names. If you look at the link on the bottom left and bottom right it looks
 like records for two different people named Ignacia:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1805-1818/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1805-1818_item1/P5.html

 My question is, if you are looking for someone with a common name and you
 don't know their parents or their dates of birth, death or marriage and the
 records aren't listing their second name or surnames, is there a way to
 dicier more information about who the person is? So using these two
 Ignacia's as an example, is there a line that maybe lists their second name?

 Hope this question wasn't two confusing.

 Sean

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