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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-26 Thread Don Miguel

Thanks so much!

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 6:19:05 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> "Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii" compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, 
> copyright 1993 by the Maui Portuguese Cultural Club, page 282
> Medeiros, Jacintho Mi
> guel de, Monarch 1882, from Sao Miguel
> with Antonia Hermina do Rego, 19.
>
> "Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich 
> Isles, 1879-1883," by Bob De Mello (no stated copyright, but he published 
> in the 1980s or so, therefore it is copyrighted), page 237
>
> Medeiros, Jacintho Miguel de, age 21
> Father: Miguel de Medeiros
> Mother: Maria de Jesus
> From: Bretanha
> Wife: Antonia Ermina, 19
> On the Monarch
>
> The Monarch left Sao Miguel island on Mar. 28, 1882 and arrived in Hawaii 
> in April, May or June.
>
> Check the OUTBOUND "passaportes" beginning on 28 Mar 1882 (or so) and work 
> your way back. It's before image 100:
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 7:59 AM Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> The Knowlton book has Antonia as 19. The Bob De Mello has the same thing 
>> and lists Jacinto as the son of Miguel de Medeiros and Maria de Jesus from 
>> Bretanha.
>>
>> I will type up the full citation in a few hours. Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 7:53 AM Joe Matias > > wrote:
>>
>>> This might be them.  
>>> https://digitalcollections.hawaii.gov/greenstone3/sites/localsite/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASH5c34/140ebca4.dir/doc.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:18 PM Don Miguel >> > wrote:
>>>
 Thank You, We are headed to Delgada in August for 2 weeks house hunting 
 and plan on doing some research while there.

 On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:46 AM Cheri Mello >>> > wrote:

> Don M.,
>
> Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of 
> Hawaii. They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, 
> so 
> be sure to verify it with other sources.  
> https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci  > wrote:
>
>> Don, 
>> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not 
>> Jo). I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas 
>> and the family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to 
>> start and also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the 
>> birth 
>> was not found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic 
>> Church in their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If 
>> the 
>> village is listed anywhere it may be there. 
>>
>> Rosemarie 
>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>>>
>>> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>>>
>>> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>>>
>>> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-23 Thread Cheri Mello

Oops. The URL for the OUTBOUND passaportes is here:
https://tombo.pt/d/acores#PDL
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 6:18 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> "Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii" compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr,
> copyright 1993 by the Maui Portuguese Cultural Club, page 282
> Medeiros, Jacintho Mi
> guel de, Monarch 1882, from Sao Miguel
> with Antonia Hermina do Rego, 19.
>
> "Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
> Isles, 1879-1883," by Bob De Mello (no stated copyright, but he published
> in the 1980s or so, therefore it is copyrighted), page 237
>
> Medeiros, Jacintho Miguel de, age 21
> Father: Miguel de Medeiros
> Mother: Maria de Jesus
> From: Bretanha
> Wife: Antonia Ermina, 19
> On the Monarch
>
> The Monarch left Sao Miguel island on Mar. 28, 1882 and arrived in Hawaii
> in April, May or June.
>
> Check the OUTBOUND "passaportes" beginning on 28 Mar 1882 (or so) and work
> your way back. It's before image 100:
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 7:59 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> The Knowlton book has Antonia as 19. The Bob De Mello has the same thing
>> and lists Jacinto as the son of Miguel de Medeiros and Maria de Jesus from
>> Bretanha.
>>
>> I will type up the full citation in a few hours. Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 7:53 AM Joe Matias  wrote:
>>
>>> This might be them.
>>> https://digitalcollections.hawaii.gov/greenstone3/sites/localsite/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASH5c34/140ebca4.dir/doc.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:18 PM Don Miguel 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank You, We are headed to Delgada in August for 2 weeks house hunting
 and plan on doing some research while there.

 On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:46 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Don M.,
>
> Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of
> Hawaii. They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, so
> be sure to verify it with other sources.
> https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Don,
>> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not
>> Jo). I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas
>> and the family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to
>> start and also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the 
>> birth
>> was not found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic
>> Church in their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the
>> village is listed anywhere it may be there.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>>>
>>> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>>>
>>> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>>>
>>> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-23 Thread Cheri Mello

"Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii" compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr,
copyright 1993 by the Maui Portuguese Cultural Club, page 282
Medeiros, Jacintho Mi
guel de, Monarch 1882, from Sao Miguel
with Antonia Hermina do Rego, 19.

"Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
Isles, 1879-1883," by Bob De Mello (no stated copyright, but he published
in the 1980s or so, therefore it is copyrighted), page 237

Medeiros, Jacintho Miguel de, age 21
Father: Miguel de Medeiros
Mother: Maria de Jesus
From: Bretanha
Wife: Antonia Ermina, 19
On the Monarch

The Monarch left Sao Miguel island on Mar. 28, 1882 and arrived in Hawaii
in April, May or June.

Check the OUTBOUND "passaportes" beginning on 28 Mar 1882 (or so) and work
your way back. It's before image 100:
Good luck,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 7:59 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> The Knowlton book has Antonia as 19. The Bob De Mello has the same thing
> and lists Jacinto as the son of Miguel de Medeiros and Maria de Jesus from
> Bretanha.
>
> I will type up the full citation in a few hours. Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 7:53 AM Joe Matias  wrote:
>
>> This might be them.
>> https://digitalcollections.hawaii.gov/greenstone3/sites/localsite/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASH5c34/140ebca4.dir/doc.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:18 PM Don Miguel  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank You, We are headed to Delgada in August for 2 weeks house hunting
>>> and plan on doing some research while there.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:46 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 Don M.,

 Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of
 Hawaii. They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, so
 be sure to verify it with other sources.
 https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/


 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


 On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
 wrote:

> Don,
> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not
> Jo). I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and
> the family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start
> and also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was
> not found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church 
> in
> their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is
> listed anywhere it may be there.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>>
>> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>>
>> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>>
>> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-23 Thread Cheri Mello

The Knowlton book has Antonia as 19. The Bob De Mello has the same thing
and lists Jacinto as the son of Miguel de Medeiros and Maria de Jesus from
Bretanha.

I will type up the full citation in a few hours. Cheri
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 7:53 AM Joe Matias  wrote:

> This might be them.
> https://digitalcollections.hawaii.gov/greenstone3/sites/localsite/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASH5c34/140ebca4.dir/doc.pdf
>
>
>
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> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:18 PM Don Miguel  wrote:
>
>> Thank You, We are headed to Delgada in August for 2 weeks house hunting
>> and plan on doing some research while there.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:46 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Don M.,
>>>
>>> Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of
>>> Hawaii. They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, so
>>> be sure to verify it with other sources.
>>> https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Don,
 Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not
 Jo). I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and
 the family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start
 and also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was
 not found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church in
 their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is
 listed anywhere it may be there.

 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


 On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel 
 wrote:

>
> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>
> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>
> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>
> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-23 Thread Joe Matias

This might be them.
https://digitalcollections.hawaii.gov/greenstone3/sites/localsite/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASH5c34/140ebca4.dir/doc.pdf



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On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:18 PM Don Miguel  wrote:

> Thank You, We are headed to Delgada in August for 2 weeks house hunting
> and plan on doing some research while there.
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:46 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Don M.,
>>
>> Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of
>> Hawaii. They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, so
>> be sure to verify it with other sources.
>> https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Don,
>>> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not
>>> Jo). I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and
>>> the family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start
>>> and also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was
>>> not found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church in
>>> their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is
>>> listed anywhere it may be there.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Attached file is all I can find so far.

 Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863

 Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864

 Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello

I know it took Kalani Mondoy a long time to get his mother's birth
certificate (and she's alive and well). I remember him saying he got A LOT
of that running around stuff that government officials tell the public!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 6:46 PM TERESA Phillips  wrote:

> Don:
>
> If the person who called about getting a birth certificate said Charly was
> born on Molokai and not in Honolulu, that may explain why the Dept of
> Health had no record.  One thing I have learned about Hawaii--they do not
> play well with others and don't necessarily follow the same basic
> procedures.  Honestly, I'm surprised whoever called even got them to check
> over the phone.  Based on my experience, when it comes to getting records
> if you don't have the CORRECT information shown on the document you will
> rarely get a copy of it.  It is highly possible there was no record on
> Molokai for your ancestor because it actually exists for Oahu.  Basically,
> they could have had all of the information correct except the place of
> birth and would have been told no record, even though all of that same info
> brought up a record for a person in Honolulu.  The reality is that the
> printed documents we can get through them will usually just list
> generalized location (Portugal, Maui, Oahu, etc) if at all.  It was the
> original "Territory of Hawaii" version that usually went into great detail
> (from the ones I've seen anyway).  But if we had that we wouldn't be
> looking, right?  As Rosemarie suggested church records are often more
> detailed and easier to obtain.  However, you still have to be looking in
> the right area.
>
> As an example:  we had an adventure getting my mother-in-law's birth
> certificate and we were standing there in person (records for all islands
> are obtained in Honolulu).  She was hanai--a legal Hawaiian adoption at the
> time but unofficial on paper.  Even with her date and place of birth (a
> very small town on Maui--census done 3 months before her birth shows all of
> 100 people living in it) , given name, and biological mother's first name
> (MIL knew that much) they told us there was no record.  After much talking,
> pleading, and producing hubbies birth certificate and his parents marriage
> certificate (ie: purchasing another as the ones we had were back on the
> mainland), they finally gave us her birth certificate.  For the record, her
> middle and surname were listed differently on all three records--only her
> given stayed the same.  Not like they could follow on paper it was the same
> person, so why  Our only guess that they are so picky is too many
> people are trying to be "royal" hawaiian.  Perhaps they have done this out
> of necessity.  Imaging & online access  of census and other records is
> great for those of us trying to find family but too easy for less than
> honorable folks trying to create false ties.  Probably off the mark but as
> good a theory as any.
>
> Hopefully I've been able to share a little knowledge to assist you, even
> though probably not truly helpful in getting your information.
>
> Teresa Phillips
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Don Miguel 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2019 9:49 AM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand
> Parents
>
>
> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>
> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>
> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>
> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread TERESA Phillips

Don:

If the person who called about getting a birth certificate said Charly was born 
on Molokai and not in Honolulu, that may explain why the Dept of Health had no 
record.  One thing I have learned about Hawaii--they do not play well with 
others and don't necessarily follow the same basic procedures.  Honestly, I'm 
surprised whoever called even got them to check over the phone.  Based on my 
experience, when it comes to getting records if you don't have the CORRECT 
information shown on the document you will rarely get a copy of it.  It is 
highly possible there was no record on Molokai for your ancestor because it 
actually exists for Oahu.  Basically, they could have had all of the 
information correct except the place of birth and would have been told no 
record, even though all of that same info brought up a record for a person in 
Honolulu.  The reality is that the printed documents we can get through them 
will usually just list generalized location (Portugal, Maui, Oahu, etc) if at 
all.  It was the original "Territory of Hawaii" version that usually went into 
great detail (from the ones I've seen anyway).  But if we had that we wouldn't 
be looking, right?  As Rosemarie suggested church records are often more 
detailed and easier to obtain.  However, you still have to be looking in the 
right area.

As an example:  we had an adventure getting my mother-in-law's birth 
certificate and we were standing there in person (records for all islands are 
obtained in Honolulu).  She was hanai--a legal Hawaiian adoption at the time 
but unofficial on paper.  Even with her date and place of birth (a very small 
town on Maui--census done 3 months before her birth shows all of 100 people 
living in it) , given name, and biological mother's first name (MIL knew that 
much) they told us there was no record.  After much talking, pleading, and 
producing hubbies birth certificate and his parents marriage certificate (ie: 
purchasing another as the ones we had were back on the mainland), they finally 
gave us her birth certificate.  For the record, her middle and surname were 
listed differently on all three records--only her given stayed the same.  Not 
like they could follow on paper it was the same person, so why  Our only 
guess that they are so picky is too many people are trying to be "royal" 
hawaiian.  Perhaps they have done this out of necessity.  Imaging & online 
access  of census and other records is great for those of us trying to find 
family but too easy for less than honorable folks trying to create false ties.  
Probably off the mark but as good a theory as any.

Hopefully I've been able to share a little knowledge to assist you, even though 
probably not truly helpful in getting your information.

Teresa Phillips





From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Don Miguel 

Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents


Attached file is all I can find so far.

Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863

Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864

Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread Don Miguel

Thank You, We are headed to Delgada in August for 2 weeks house hunting and
plan on doing some research while there.

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:46 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Don M.,
>
> Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of Hawaii.
> They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, so be sure
> to verify it with other sources.
> https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Don,
>> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not Jo).
>> I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and the
>> family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start and
>> also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was not
>> found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church in
>> their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is
>> listed anywhere it may be there.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>>>
>>> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>>>
>>> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>>>
>>> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread Don Miguel

Thank You!!
*DON MIGUEL*
*DON MIGUEL TRANSPORT*
*702.591.7620*
*877.287.8125 F*

*MC585179*



On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Don,
> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not Jo).
> I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and the
> family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start and
> also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was not
> found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church in
> their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is
> listed anywhere it may be there.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel  wrote:
>
>>
>> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>>
>> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>>
>> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>>
>> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello

Don M.,

Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of Hawaii.
They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, so be sure
to verify it with other sources.
https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Don,
> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not Jo).
> I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and the
> family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start and
> also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was not
> found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church in
> their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is
> listed anywhere it may be there.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel  wrote:
>
>>
>> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>>
>> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>>
>> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>>
>> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci

Don,
Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not Jo). I
checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and the family
is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start and also the
Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was not found in
the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church in their town
and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is listed
anywhere it may be there.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel  wrote:

>
> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>
> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>
> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>
> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread Don Miguel

Thank You!!
*DON MIGUEL*
*DON MIGUEL TRANSPORT*
*702.591.7620*
*877.287.8125 F*

*MC585179*



On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:07 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Don M,
>
> Here's how to get started researching:
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/
>
> Because Hawaii was a U.S. Territory for awhile, there are other sources
> (they have an 1890 Kingdom of Hawaii census - order from your local Family
> History Center. Ancestry didn't scan everything). Also you may want to try
> this Portuguese Hawaiian web site: www.yourislandroutes.com
>
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel  wrote:
>
>>
>> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>>
>> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>>
>> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>>
>> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

2019-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello

Don M,

Here's how to get started researching:
http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/

Because Hawaii was a U.S. Territory for awhile, there are other sources
(they have an 1890 Kingdom of Hawaii census - order from your local Family
History Center. Ancestry didn't scan everything). Also you may want to try
this Portuguese Hawaiian web site: www.yourislandroutes.com

Good luck,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel  wrote:

>
> Attached file is all I can find so far.
>
> Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863
>
> Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864
>
> Ant help pointing us in the right direction would be grateful!
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