Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Joanne, PDF Manoel Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 16:25:19 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Thanks for José family, Manoel. I will send you his descendents in either a PDF or GEDCOM privately. Which would you prefer? Joanne On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM, mances man...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Joanne, I made a mistake. My ancestor Rosa Emília Carreiro is the sister of your José, not the daughter. Sorry for my lapsus calami! Here are the children born to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, that I could find in Rabo de Peixe: . Maria e Josefa, gêmeas, n. 13.7.1821 - CCA #81. Netas paternas de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e netas maternas de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Manuel Gonçalves, casado, morador neste mesmo lugar. . Manuel, n. 10.7.1822 - CCA #117. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco Carreiro filho familar de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva de Jesus, deste referido lugar. . José, n. 3.1.1824 - CCA #8. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Luciano da Silva de Gouveia. . Maria (2ª do nome), n. 4.2.1827 - CCA #91. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Luciano de Gouveia da Silva, morador neste lugar. . Francisco, n. 19.12.1827 - CCA #132. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Francisco Carreiro filho familiar de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva de Jesus. . Luciano, n. 2.9.1830 - CCA #237. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco filho de Luciano Carreiro. . Rosa, n. 16.3.1833 - CCA #44. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins de Gouveia e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Norberto José Martins, filho familiar de Francisco Martins e de Ana Maria, deste mesmo lugar. (Obs.: A data de seu falecimento está anotada à margem do assento de batismo). Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 22:18:43 UTC-3, mances escreveu: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Joanne, I made a mistake. My ancestor Rosa Emília Carreiro is the sister of your José, not the daughter. Sorry for my lapsus calami! Here are the children born to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, that I could find in Rabo de Peixe: . Maria e Josefa, gêmeas, n. 13.7.1821 - CCA #81. Netas paternas de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e netas maternas de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Manuel Gonçalves, casado, morador neste mesmo lugar. . Manuel, n. 10.7.1822 - CCA #117. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco Carreiro filho familar de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva de Jesus, deste referido lugar. . José, n. 3.1.1824 - CCA #8. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Luciano da Silva de Gouveia. . Maria (2ª do nome), n. 4.2.1827 - CCA #91. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Luciano de Gouveia da Silva, morador neste lugar. . Francisco, n. 19.12.1827 - CCA #132. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Francisco Carreiro filho familiar de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva de Jesus. . Luciano, n. 2.9.1830 - CCA #237. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco filho de Luciano Carreiro. . Rosa, n. 16.3.1833 - CCA #44. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins de Gouveia e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Norberto José Martins, filho familiar de Francisco Martins e de Ana Maria, deste mesmo lugar. (Obs.: A data de seu falecimento está anotada à margem do assento de batismo). Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 22:18:43 UTC-3, mances escreveu: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Hi, Not that this is helpful, but my family is from Rabo de Peixe and I have a relative named Francisco Martins Gouveia. I dont know his dates of birth but I a assume its in the mid 1800's. I'm just curious if he is related to any or your ancestors from the same time period. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 6:18:43 PM UTC-7, mances wrote: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Hi Sean, I have done a lot of research in Rabo de Peixe and I think that all those Martins de Gouveia are connected. As far as I know they all descend from Manuel Martins Mascarenhas, from Rabo de Peixe born around 1610, and Maria de Gouveia, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande born on 1 sep 1613. Do you have the names of the parents for your Francisco Martins de Gouveia? Manoel Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 11:36:15 UTC-3, Sean Andrade escreveu: Hi, Not that this is helpful, but my family is from Rabo de Peixe and I have a relative named Francisco Martins Gouveia. I dont know his dates of birth but I a assume its in the mid 1800's. I'm just curious if he is related to any or your ancestors from the same time period. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 6:18:43 PM UTC-7, mances wrote: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Thanks for José family, Manoel. I will send you his descendents in either a PDF or GEDCOM privately. Which would you prefer? Joanne On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, I made a mistake. My ancestor Rosa Emília Carreiro is the sister of your José, not the daughter. Sorry for my lapsus calami! Here are the children born to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, that I could find in Rabo de Peixe: . Maria e Josefa, gêmeas, n. 13.7.1821 - CCA #81. Netas paternas de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e netas maternas de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Manuel Gonçalves, casado, morador neste mesmo lugar. . Manuel, n. 10.7.1822 - CCA #117. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco Carreiro filho familar de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva de Jesus, deste referido lugar. . José, n. 3.1.1824 - CCA #8. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Luciano da Silva de Gouveia. . Maria (2ª do nome), n. 4.2.1827 - CCA #91. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Luciano de Gouveia da Silva, morador neste lugar. . Francisco, n. 19.12.1827 - CCA #132. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Francisco Carreiro filho familiar de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva de Jesus. . Luciano, n. 2.9.1830 - CCA #237. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco filho de Luciano Carreiro. . Rosa, n. 16.3.1833 - CCA #44. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins de Gouveia e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Norberto José Martins, filho familiar de Francisco Martins e de Ana Maria, deste mesmo lugar. (Obs.: A data de seu falecimento está anotada à margem do assento de batismo). Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 22:18:43 UTC-3, mances escreveu: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
My grandmother had a brother by the same name - born around 1900. I’m still looking for his baptism record. Could this be your relative? On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:41 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sean, I have done a lot of research in Rabo de Peixe and I think that all those Martins de Gouveia are connected. As far as I know they all descend from Manuel Martins Mascarenhas, from Rabo de Peixe born around 1610, and Maria de Gouveia, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande born on 1 sep 1613. Do you have the names of the parents for your Francisco Martins de Gouveia? Manoel Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 11:36:15 UTC-3, Sean Andrade escreveu: Hi, Not that this is helpful, but my family is from Rabo de Peixe and I have a relative named Francisco Martins Gouveia. I dont know his dates of birth but I a assume its in the mid 1800's. I'm just curious if he is related to any or your ancestors from the same time period. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 6:18:43 PM UTC-7, mances wrote: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
I have a relative named Jose Martins Amaral that was born around 1896. I'm not sure when Francisco Martins Gouveia was born but I'm assuming 20-30 years prior to 1896. On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-7, Joanne wrote: Thanks for José family, Manoel. I will send you his descendents in either a PDF or GEDCOM privately. Which would you prefer? Joanne On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM, mances man...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Joanne, I made a mistake. My ancestor Rosa Emília Carreiro is the sister of your José, not the daughter. Sorry for my lapsus calami! Here are the children born to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, that I could find in Rabo de Peixe: . Maria e Josefa, gêmeas, n. 13.7.1821 - CCA #81. Netas paternas de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e netas maternas de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Manuel Gonçalves, casado, morador neste mesmo lugar. . Manuel, n. 10.7.1822 - CCA #117. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco Carreiro filho familar de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva de Jesus, deste referido lugar. . José, n. 3.1.1824 - CCA #8. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Luciano da Silva de Gouveia. . Maria (2ª do nome), n. 4.2.1827 - CCA #91. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Luciano de Gouveia da Silva, morador neste lugar. . Francisco, n. 19.12.1827 - CCA #132. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio materno Francisco Carreiro filho familiar de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva de Jesus. . Luciano, n. 2.9.1830 - CCA #237. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco filho de Luciano Carreiro. . Rosa, n. 16.3.1833 - CCA #44. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins de Gouveia e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Norberto José Martins, filho familiar de Francisco Martins e de Ana Maria, deste mesmo lugar. (Obs.: A data de seu falecimento está anotada à margem do assento de batismo). Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 22:18:43 UTC-3, mances escreveu: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
I don't. I haven't researched that side of my family at all (My mother's side.) I have been working with one of my relatives to focus on my father's side for now. I don't want to overwhelm myself with information so one thing at a time. But I saw this post and I wanted to reach out because there may be a connection at some point. On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 9:41:52 AM UTC-7, mances wrote: Hi Sean, I have done a lot of research in Rabo de Peixe and I think that all those Martins de Gouveia are connected. As far as I know they all descend from Manuel Martins Mascarenhas, from Rabo de Peixe born around 1610, and Maria de Gouveia, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande born on 1 sep 1613. Do you have the names of the parents for your Francisco Martins de Gouveia? Manoel Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 11:36:15 UTC-3, Sean Andrade escreveu: Hi, Not that this is helpful, but my family is from Rabo de Peixe and I have a relative named Francisco Martins Gouveia. I dont know his dates of birth but I a assume its in the mid 1800's. I'm just curious if he is related to any or your ancestors from the same time period. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 6:18:43 PM UTC-7, mances wrote: Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
My husband's aunt's father came to the U.S. to earn money to send for his wife and son from Portugal. It took ten (10 years) before his wife finally got in the U.S. Therefore, there is a ten year gap between his children. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joanne Mercier To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe Interesting…as far as I know he never came to the US but there could be a second marriage because the birthdates of my grandmother’s known siblings begin a good 10 years later. Guess I have more digging to do! :) Thanks, Bill! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, bsei2...@gmail.com bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: I believe it says Premiera certidao em 7 de Novembro 1880 meaning that he needed a certification of this record. This would probably be for a marriage or passport so this could be a hint as to his immigration time. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Hello Cousin, I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share everything I have in my files. My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to Brazil on 1891. As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de Travassos; Jorge Velho. Manoel Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: Hello cousin! I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have seen your name there. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Joanne, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91. I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
I believe it says Premiera certidao em 7 de Novembro 1880 meaning that he needed a certification of this record. This would probably be for a marriage or passport so this could be a hint as to his immigration time. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Thanks, Bill! It’s nice when another pair of eyes sees what you see - also means my Portuguese reading skills are getting better. I sincerely appreciate your help. What I also should have added to my first email was I really can’t discipher what is written in the margin. My working knowledge of Catholic sacramental records and the clear date of 1880 suggests it might be a death entry. Could you or someone else confirm my suspicions? Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:16 AM, null bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: I see the dates exactly as you see them. I believe the father, José Martins de Gouveia and his parents, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are all from Senhor Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe. I believe the mother, Barbara da Concepção and her parents, Luiz Pereira and Catherina Izabel are all from Nossa Senhora do Livramento, Rosto do Cão. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
Interesting…as far as I know he never came to the US but there could be a second marriage because the birthdates of my grandmother’s known siblings begin a good 10 years later. Guess I have more digging to do! :) Thanks, Bill! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
I see the dates exactly as you see them. I believe the father, José Martins de Gouveia and his parents, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are all from Senhor Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe. I believe the mother, Barbara da Concepção and her parents, Luiz Pereira and Catherina Izabel are all from Nossa Senhora do Livramento, Rosto do Cão. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.