RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-11 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hi Pam,

 

If you click on the person to see the details you seem to get more or most of 
the name but there are cases where you only get the woman’s first name such as 
Maria in tree view and in detail.  I am beginning to think they transferred the 
old data by something other than a gedcom and in the transfer it could not read 
all the names or if it did it scrambled them.  Consider my wife’s first name it 
is “Man Chun” in tree view it shows as Man Pimentel, in details it shows Man 
Chun Pimentel with “Chun” treated as a middle name. (I had to go to edit to see 
this). So in going from the old format to the new half of her first name was 
changed to her middle name. 

The only thing I have not tried is to delete the whole tree and reenter it and 
see what happens.

 

There is a huge problem with the new trees and we need to let them know loud 
and clear we do not like it.

 

Pam which way do you want to change the number of generations?  I see you can 
try and delete some if you have too many.  I also notice that it is not showing 
all the generations I previously had but I can view more of a line by clicking 
the branch symbol next to the person. In the old format you had to click on the 
arrow to see more of the line.  Also in the old tree you had numbers for each 
person so you could refer to a number person when communicating to others. This 
was helpful if there were people that had the same name.  You could quickly 
know that Manuel de Sousa #32 was your connection and not Manuel de Sousa #84. 
There is no way to do this in the new tree.

 

Rick

 

Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project

  

Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators

All unpaid volunteers 

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Rick Pimentel –  mailto:rickredle...@gmail.com rickredle...@gmail.com 

Nancy Jean Baptista -  mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com 
fishsongf...@hotmail.com

Kalani Mondoy - mamoah...@gmail.com 

 

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Santos
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up

 

Or people living and showing their birthdate when you have it private. I also 
noticed (not sure if someone mentioned this already) that both names will not 
show up for example Manuel de Medeiros Correia it only shows up as Manuel 
Medeiros.  

 

How do you change the number of generations?

 

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

They did Bata test the family tree and Cheri was in the loop to review it. 
Cheri sent it to me to play with and when I sent my comments back to her they 
were almost the same as hers. It appears that the programmer’s at FTDNA did not 
hear what we told them. Because it was a Beta test I could only look at the 
Tree Cheri had and could not look at other trees from the FF matches. The 
problems I found are no comparison to the ones we are now having with Names 
showing up as private because there is no death date entered even if the birth 
date was 1590 and being able to correct the names and edit.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:17 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is 
up

 

FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.

 

 It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond the 
most simplistic model of how this would actually work.

 

 

Eric Edgar

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way - So 
let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field 
for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not 
link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am trying to figure 
out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I 
have no idea how someone else would record the name.

 

Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not 
showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this could be why.

 

Denise D’Antona

 

 

On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
Cheri

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-11 Thread 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy
Hi Rick, 

I believe we connected through Sebastiao Machado and Isabel Resendes that were 
married in Achada in 1699. I don't have access to my entire tree at this 
moment, you do have this couple correct?

Denise D'Antona

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 11, 2014, at 7:22 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi Pam,
  
 If you click on the person to see the details you seem to get more or most of 
 the name but there are cases where you only get the woman’s first name such 
 as Maria in tree view and in detail.  I am beginning to think they 
 transferred the old data by something other than a gedcom and in the transfer 
 it could not read all the names or if it did it scrambled them.  Consider my 
 wife’s first name it is “Man Chun” in tree view it shows as Man Pimentel, in 
 details it shows Man Chun Pimentel with “Chun” treated as a middle name. (I 
 had to go to edit to see this). So in going from the old format to the new 
 half of her first name was changed to her middle name.
 The only thing I have not tried is to delete the whole tree and reenter it 
 and see what happens.
  
 There is a huge problem with the new trees and we need to let them know loud 
 and clear we do not like it.
  
 Pam which way do you want to change the number of generations?  I see you can 
 try and delete some if you have too many.  I also notice that it is not 
 showing all the generations I previously had but I can view more of a line by 
 clicking the branch symbol next to the person. In the old format you had to 
 click on the arrow to see more of the line.  Also in the old tree you had 
 numbers for each person so you could refer to a number person when 
 communicating to others. This was helpful if there were people that had the 
 same name.  You could quickly know that Manuel de Sousa #32 was your 
 connection and not Manuel de Sousa #84. There is no way to do this in the new 
 tree.
  
 Rick
  
 Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
 Azores DNA Project
  
 Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators
 All unpaid volunteers
 Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com
 Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com
 Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com
 Kalani Mondoy - mamoah...@gmail.com
  
 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Pam Santos
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:53 PM
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) 
 is up
  
 Or people living and showing their birthdate when you have it private. I also 
 noticed (not sure if someone mentioned this already) that both names will not 
 show up for example Manuel de Medeiros Correia it only shows up as Manuel 
 Medeiros.  
  
 How do you change the number of generations?
  
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
 They did Bata test the family tree and Cheri was in the loop to review it. 
 Cheri sent it to me to play with and when I sent my comments back to her they 
 were almost the same as hers. It appears that the programmer’s at FTDNA did 
 not hear what we told them. Because it was a Beta test I could only look at 
 the Tree Cheri had and could not look at other trees from the FF matches. The 
 problems I found are no comparison to the ones we are now having with Names 
 showing up as private because there is no death date entered even if the 
 birth date was 1590 and being able to correct the names and edit.
  
 Rick
  
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 Epping, NH
  
  
 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 luiznoia .
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:17 PM
 To: Azores Genealogy
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) 
 is up
  
 FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.
  
  It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond the 
 most simplistic model of how this would actually work.
  
  
 Eric Edgar
  
  
  
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
 azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way - So 
 let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field 
 for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will 
 not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am trying to 
 figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field 
 because I have no idea how someone else would record the name.
  
 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not 
 showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this could be why.
  
 Denise D’Antona
  
  
 On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 
 Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
 Cheri
 
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread luiznoia .
You can edit names and information for individuals in the Family Tree

In either Family View or Ancestry view,  click on the person, click view
profile

The edit button is at the top. You can then correct spelling, names and
birth and death dates.

You can add photos.


I doubt that FTDNA is going to fix the spelling issue on their end, so I'm
going through my page and fixing them.


Eric Edgar

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hi Cheri,

 I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied
 in with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not
 show up as connections. Any suggestions?

 Denise D'Antona

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mary B,

 Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first
 names and I got the middle name dropped.

 As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it to
 them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that you
 found with the trees

 Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that
 Gedcom.

 I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen
 Louise.  That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have
 Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and
 everything, it may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I
 have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show
 Altino as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.

 Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy
Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way - So 
let's say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field 
for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not 
link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am trying to figure 
out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I 
have no idea how someone else would record the name.

Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not 
showing up in my list of relatives.  I'm just wondering if this could be why.

Denise D'Antona


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 Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Tish M
Denise,
Is Rick not showing up in your list of DNA relatives, or in the gedcom
program? If it is in the DNA relatives maybe you just didn't get enough of
the same DNA. If it is in the gedcom program I would say they have a great
deal of tweaking to do before their program is usable. I do think they are
trying, though.
Tish

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way -
 So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name
 field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we
 will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am
 trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the
 edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name.

 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is
 not showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this could
 be why.

 Denise D’Antona


 On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy
I wonder if it could be due to how FTM wrote the Gedcom.

When I write a surname into my program I try to avoid the issue of screwing up 
the surname by entering the d' or de, do etc on the first line name.

For example...

I enter José de on the Given name of the FTM program.
And Paiva on the surname.

I wonder if by entering de on the middle name section is what is causing it 
not to match.

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:59 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
 azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheri,
 
 I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied in 
 with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not show up 
 as connections. Any suggestions?
 
 Denise D'Antona
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Mary B,
 
 Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first 
 names and I got the middle name dropped.
 
 As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it to 
 them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that you 
 found with the trees
 
 Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that 
 Gedcom.
 
 I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen 
 Louise.  That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have 
 Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and 
 everything, it may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I 
 have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show 
 Altino as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.
 
 Cheri
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Edgar, I went into my file and changed the mistakes also. I had the double
surnames and I just deleted the middle one and it comes out alright. My
problem is that the women with the given name and a religious name was not
showing on the main page. I went it and put the Sao Joao or de Jesus in
their surname field and it comes out correctly on the main 'tree'.



Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can edit names and information for individuals in the Family Tree

 In either Family View or Ancestry view,  click on the person, click view
 profile

 The edit button is at the top. You can then correct spelling, names and
 birth and death dates.

 You can add photos.


 I doubt that FTDNA is going to fix the spelling issue on their end, so I'm
 going through my page and fixing them.


 Eric Edgar

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
 azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hi Cheri,

 I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied
 in with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not
 show up as connections. Any suggestions?

 Denise D'Antona

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mary B,

 Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first
 names and I got the middle name dropped.

 As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it to
 them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that you
 found with the trees

 Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that
 Gedcom.

 I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen
 Louise.  That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have
 Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and
 everything, it may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I
 have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show
 Altino as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.

 Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Seekgene via Azores Genealogy
I just never put in de or da in my family tree or gedcom names for  
this very reason.  The reason is to avoid this very  problem.   De or da is 
only a preposition and it only means  of.
 
 
In a message dated 9/10/2014 2:57:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
azores@googlegroups.com writes:

I wonder if it could be due to how FTM wrote the Gedcom.


When I write a surname into my program I try to avoid the issue of  
screwing up the surname by entering the d' or de, do etc on the first  
line 
name.


For example...


I enter José de on the Given name of the FTM program.
And Paiva on the surname.


I wonder if by entering de on the middle name section is what is  causing 
it not to match.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:59 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
_azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com)   wrote:




Hi Cheri,


I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have  tied 
in with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not  show 
up as connections. Any suggestions?


Denise D'Antona

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello _gfscherim@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com)   wrote:




 
Mary B,

Yes, keep on playing and making a list of  things.  You got double first 
names and I got the middle name  dropped.


As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as  José.  I sent it to 
them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it  to your list of things that you 
found with the trees


Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you  ended with her on that 
Gedcom.

I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H.  Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen 
Louise.  That is why it  wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have 
Joe Mello  and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and 
everything, it  may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I 
have the 
 surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show Altino  
as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.

Cheri


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread luiznoia .
FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.

 It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond the
most simplistic model of how this would actually work.


Eric Edgar



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 Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way -
 So let's say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name
 field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we
 will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am
 trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the
 edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name.

 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is
 not showing up in my list of relatives.  I'm just wondering if this could
 be why.

 Denise D'Antona


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Tish M
Eric,
I don't think your statement is completely true. I have been in contact
with ftDNA today. Cheri has already stated that she did 4 months of Beta
testing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. In
this case, you can tell the designers what you don't like about their
program, but you can't make them change it. Here is what they said:

Our beta test was completed by people with both computer and genealogy
experience, then we released the Family Tree to about 10% of our most
regular users for further testing.  Sometimes all of the best planning and
testing still does not catch all of the problems, unfortunately.

We are getting much of the same feedback regarding names and sizing of the
tree and I will add your comments to the mix.  Thank you!

I then thanked them for the quick response and concerns.

This was their reply:

Tish -- Anytime!  I love getting honest feedback from our customers,
especially when it backs up what we've been telling the designers.  Thank
you for *your* time!

Tish

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 FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.

  It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond
 the most simplistic model of how this would actually work.


 Eric Edgar



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 Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way -
 So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name
 field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we
 will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am
 trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the
 edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name.

 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is
 not showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this could
 be why.

 Denise D’Antona


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Cheri Mello
When I was beta testing, that purple band-aid link would disappear on
me.  What is that thing?


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Tish M
Oops. I thought Cheri tested the beta version for 4 MONTHS. I thought that
enough time... but, 4 HOURS is probably not enough time. When I was testing
new programs for work we would run both programs for at least a few weeks,
before using the new one. It was a lot of work, but was well worth it.
Tish

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Mary Bordi busybo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Silly me...I got confused with the add relationship feature. I thought
 that when it showed a DNA link with someone in your tree that you clicked
 there. Today I went to add myself as my mom's daughter to her tree (I had
 not gone beyond my mom on her Gedcom). I was able to add myself to her tree
 there. But the possible link icon was not there today.

 I'm sure we will learn how this works someday. :)

 Mary



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 Been playing!

 I need to redo my gedcom. And my mom's. I guess I didn't use ASCII
 characters in the names (had noticed it before) so names like José end up
 looking like José (If that even shows up here in email...!) It would be
 difficult to match similar names in other trees.

 Some womwn's have double first names... Maria Maria, Rosa Rosa, Joana
 Joana...

 Also, For me, it showed my mom as a possible link to me but then for
 relationship I was only given the choices of spouse, sibling, son,
 daughter. It wasn't clear if the relationship was hers to mine or mine to
 hers.

 My mom doesn't show a link to me, but I don't think I'm on her gedcom--I
 ended it with her! :)

 I'm on my iPad so I should check it out on my desktop computer. At least
 this is better than Ancestry--I can no longer view my DNA matches there on
 my iPad. :)

 Mary

 On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those wanting to upload their Gedcoms to FTDNA, you can do it.

 For others, you can play with the new family tree feature.

 Don't know what they did with my 4 hours of beta testing.  Looks like
 they didn't take a single suggestion.  Such as Maria de Jesus.  I told them
 not to assume the last name in the field was a last name.  So they deleted
 it.  I now have several women just named Maria.

 And low and behold, I'm not even connected to my mother!  We share DNA,
 yet we have ZERO people in common in our family trees.  Really?  It's the
 same database!

 Play around with it.  Make a list of features that don't work for you
 (because they did it from a North American centric point of view).  I'll
 tell you were to send it next week.  You can discuss it, but give Rick and
 Kalani some time to play around with it themselves.  They were not beta
 testers and Kalani is on overload from work and Nancy Jean is not back from
 the Azores yet.  And I'm out of town.  So save up your suggestions!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread luiznoia .
Tish,

I didn't say they didn't solicit input from genealogists, I said the didn't
take the input.

 The naming difficulties are not unique to Portuguese research, it's big
problem for any Latin American  and  Scandanavian naming forms also.

Eric Edgar

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 Eric,
 I don't think your statement is completely true. I have been in contact
 with ftDNA today. Cheri has already stated that she did 4 months of Beta
 testing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. In
 this case, you can tell the designers what you don't like about their
 program, but you can't make them change it. Here is what they said:

 Our beta test was completed by people with both computer and genealogy
 experience, then we released the Family Tree to about 10% of our most
 regular users for further testing.  Sometimes all of the best planning and
 testing still does not catch all of the problems, unfortunately.

 We are getting much of the same feedback regarding names and sizing of the
 tree and I will add your comments to the mix.  Thank you!

 I then thanked them for the quick response and concerns.

 This was their reply:

 Tish -- Anytime!  I love getting honest feedback from our customers,
 especially when it backs up what we've been telling the designers.  Thank
 you for *your* time!

 Tish

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

 FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.

  It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond
 the most simplistic model of how this would actually work.


 Eric Edgar



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 - So let's say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle
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 then we will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what
 I am trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in
 the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the
 name.

 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he
 is not showing up in my list of relatives.  I'm just wondering if this
 could be why.

 Denise D'Antona


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Cheri Mello
I would play around with it for a few hours and send them feed back.  Then
I'd play around with it for a few hours more.  I'm guessing I did about 4
hours.  Over the course of a month.  Nah, more like 6 hours.

I think that IT/Engineering may get beat up at the next FTDNA conference!
LOL

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 Tish,

 I didn't say they didn't solicit input from genealogists, I said the
 didn't take the input.

  The naming difficulties are not unique to Portuguese research, it's big
 problem for any Latin American  and  Scandanavian naming forms also.

 Eric Edgar

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 Eric,
 I don't think your statement is completely true. I have been in contact
 with ftDNA today. Cheri has already stated that she did 4 months of Beta
 testing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. In
 this case, you can tell the designers what you don't like about their
 program, but you can't make them change it. Here is what they said:

 Our beta test was completed by people with both computer and genealogy
 experience, then we released the Family Tree to about 10% of our most
 regular users for further testing.  Sometimes all of the best planning and
 testing still does not catch all of the problems, unfortunately.

 We are getting much of the same feedback regarding names and sizing of
 the tree and I will add your comments to the mix.  Thank you!

 I then thanked them for the quick response and concerns.

 This was their reply:

 Tish -- Anytime!  I love getting honest feedback from our customers,
 especially when it backs up what we've been telling the designers.  Thank
 you for *your* time!

 Tish

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.

  It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond
 the most simplistic model of how this would actually work.


 Eric Edgar



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 Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way
 - So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle
 name field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva -
 then we will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what
 I am trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in
 the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the
 name.

 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he
 is not showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this
 could be why.

 Denise D’Antona


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread luiznoia .
Rosemarie,


Have you noticed whether the program tries to connect the woman with the
same religious surname?

Eric

Edgar is my last name, actually my second last name. It's Robledo
Edgar. I'm used to naming difficulties in the Anglo-centric world

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Edgar, I went into my file and changed the mistakes also. I had the double
 surnames and I just deleted the middle one and it comes out alright. My
 problem is that the women with the given name and a religious name was not
 showing on the main page. I went it and put the Sao Joao or de Jesus in
 their surname field and it comes out correctly on the main 'tree'.



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 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You can edit names and information for individuals in the Family Tree

 In either Family View or Ancestry view,  click on the person, click view
 profile

 The edit button is at the top. You can then correct spelling, names and
 birth and death dates.

 You can add photos.


 I doubt that FTDNA is going to fix the spelling issue on their end, so
 I'm going through my page and fixing them.


 Eric Edgar

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
 azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hi Cheri,

 I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied
 in with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not
 show up as connections. Any suggestions?

 Denise D'Antona

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mary B,

 Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first
 names and I got the middle name dropped.

 As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it to
 them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that you
 found with the trees

 Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that
 Gedcom.

 I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen
 Louise.  That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have
 Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and
 everything, it may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I
 have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show
 Altino as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.

 Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Cheri Mello
We only have a dozen Maria de Jesus'

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:51 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rosemarie,


 Have you noticed whether the program tries to connect the woman with the
 same religious surname?

 Eric

 Edgar is my last name, actually my second last name. It's Robledo
 Edgar. I'm used to naming difficulties in the Anglo-centric world

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Edgar, I went into my file and changed the mistakes also. I had the
 double surnames and I just deleted the middle one and it comes out alright.
 My problem is that the women with the given name and a religious name was
 not showing on the main page. I went it and put the Sao Joao or de Jesus in
 their surname field and it comes out correctly on the main 'tree'.



 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You can edit names and information for individuals in the Family Tree

 In either Family View or Ancestry view,  click on the person, click view
 profile

 The edit button is at the top. You can then correct spelling, names and
 birth and death dates.

 You can add photos.


 I doubt that FTDNA is going to fix the spelling issue on their end, so
 I'm going through my page and fixing them.


 Eric Edgar

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 azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hi Cheri,

 I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have
 tied in with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do
 not show up as connections. Any suggestions?

 Denise D'Antona

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mary B,

 Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first
 names and I got the middle name dropped.

 As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it
 to them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that
 you found with the trees

 Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that
 Gedcom.

 I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen
 Louise.  That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have
 Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and
 everything, it may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I
 have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show
 Altino as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.

 Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
I was thinking that our connection is past the range of the Family Finder.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tish M
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:18 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is 
up

 

Denise,

Is Rick not showing up in your list of DNA relatives, or in the gedcom program? 
If it is in the DNA relatives maybe you just didn't get enough of the same DNA. 
If it is in the gedcom program I would say they have a great deal of tweaking 
to do before their program is usable. I do think they are trying, though.

Tish

 

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azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way - So 
let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name field 
for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we will not 
link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am trying to figure 
out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the edit field because I 
have no idea how someone else would record the name.

 

Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is not 
showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this could be why.

 

Denise D’Antona

 

 

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Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
Cheri

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hi Denise,

 

I do not seem to recall that we ever established a connection. I know we both 
have people coming from Achada.  We do have a common match with George Mello So 
we are related somewhere.

This new family tree thing on FTDNA is very frustrating in trying to track down 
connections. 

In looking on the admin page I was able to find one kit (91556) which you 
administer. Is there another?  

 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:00 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
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up

 

Hi Cheri,

 

I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied in 
with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not show up as 
connections. Any suggestions?

 

Denise D'Antona

Sent from my iPhone


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Mary B,

Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first names 
and I got the middle name dropped.

As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it to them 
both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that you found with 
the trees

 

Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that Gedcom.

I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen Louise. 
 That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have Joe Mello 
and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and everything, it may 
not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I have the surname as 
Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show Altino as a link.  This 
is a problem.  Ugh.

Cheri



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Tish M
I agree Cheri, IT (used to be called MIS) but didn't like the connotation,
will hear a lot. Don't be surprised to see the old family trees back for
awhile LOL.
Tish

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 I would play around with it for a few hours and send them feed back.  Then
 I'd play around with it for a few hours more.  I'm guessing I did about 4
 hours.  Over the course of a month.  Nah, more like 6 hours.

 I think that IT/Engineering may get beat up at the next FTDNA conference!
 LOL

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:45 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tish,

 I didn't say they didn't solicit input from genealogists, I said the
 didn't take the input.

  The naming difficulties are not unique to Portuguese research, it's big
 problem for any Latin American  and  Scandanavian naming forms also.

 Eric Edgar

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 Eric,
 I don't think your statement is completely true. I have been in contact
 with ftDNA today. Cheri has already stated that she did 4 months of Beta
 testing. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. In
 this case, you can tell the designers what you don't like about their
 program, but you can't make them change it. Here is what they said:

 Our beta test was completed by people with both computer and genealogy
 experience, then we released the Family Tree to about 10% of our most
 regular users for further testing.  Sometimes all of the best planning and
 testing still does not catch all of the problems, unfortunately.

 We are getting much of the same feedback regarding names and sizing of
 the tree and I will add your comments to the mix.  Thank you!

 I then thanked them for the quick response and concerns.

 This was their reply:

 Tish -- Anytime!  I love getting honest feedback from our customers,
 especially when it backs up what we've been telling the designers.  Thank
 you for *your* time!

 Tish

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 wrote:

 FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.

  It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond
 the most simplistic model of how this would actually work.


 Eric Edgar



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 Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain
 way - So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the 
 middle
 name field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva -
 then we will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what
 I am trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names 
 in
 the edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the
 name.

 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he
 is not showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this
 could be why.

 Denise D’Antona


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 Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
They did Bata test the family tree and Cheri was in the loop to review it.
Cheri sent it to me to play with and when I sent my comments back to her
they were almost the same as hers. It appears that the programmer's at FTDNA
did not hear what we told them. Because it was a Beta test I could only look
at the Tree Cheri had and could not look at other trees from the FF matches.
The problems I found are no comparison to the ones we are now having with
Names showing up as private because there is no death date entered even if
the birth date was 1590 and being able to correct the names and edit.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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luiznoia .
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:17 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom)
is up

 

FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.

 

 It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond the
most simplistic model of how this would actually work.

 

 

Eric Edgar

 

 

 

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Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way - So
let's say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name
field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we
will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am
trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the
edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name.

 

Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is
not showing up in my list of relatives.  I'm just wondering if this could be
why.

 

Denise D'Antona

 

 

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Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
Cheri

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-10 Thread Pam Santos
Or people living and showing their birthdate when you have it private. I
also noticed (not sure if someone mentioned this already) that both names
will not show up for example Manuel de Medeiros Correia it only shows up as
Manuel Medeiros.

How do you change the number of generations?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

 *They did Bata test the family tree and Cheri was in the loop to review
 it. Cheri sent it to me to play with and when I sent my comments back to
 her they were almost the same as hers. It appears that the programmer’s at
 FTDNA did not hear what we told them. Because it was a Beta test I could
 only look at the Tree Cheri had and could not look at other trees from the
 FF matches. The problems I found are no comparison to the ones we are now
 having with Names showing up as private because there is no death date
 entered even if the birth date was 1590 and being able to correct the names
 and edit.*



 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *luiznoia .
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:17 PM
 *To:* Azores Genealogy
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees
 (Gedcom) is up



 FTDNA seemed to have overreached with this Family Tree function.



  It's clear they took no input from any genealogist  nor thought beyond
 the most simplistic model of how this would actually work.





 Eric Edgar







 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
 azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Thank you Eric for your comment.  I have my names entered a certain way -
 So let’s say I have José de Paiva (the de is showing up in the middle name
 field for some reason) and you have the same person as Jose Paiva - then we
 will not link because of the difference in his name?  That is what I am
 trying to figure out.  So for me I have no need to change the names in the
 edit field because I have no idea how someone else would record the name.



 Rick and I have a known connection that we documented years ago but he is
 not showing up in my list of relatives.  I’m just wondering if this could
 be why.



 Denise D’Antona





 On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:



 Rick P, can you help Denise? I won't be able to until next week.
 Cheri



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-09 Thread Tish M
Very funny. At least your name is Cheri... not Maria.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those wanting to upload their Gedcoms to FTDNA, you can do it.

 For others, you can play with the new family tree feature.

 Don't know what they did with my 4 hours of beta testing.  Looks like they
 didn't take a single suggestion.  Such as Maria de Jesus.  I told them not
 to assume the last name in the field was a last name.  So they deleted it.
 I now have several women just named Maria.

 And low and behold, I'm not even connected to my mother!  We share DNA,
 yet we have ZERO people in common in our family trees.  Really?  It's the
 same database!

 Play around with it.  Make a list of features that don't work for you
 (because they did it from a North American centric point of view).  I'll
 tell you were to send it next week.  You can discuss it, but give Rick and
 Kalani some time to play around with it themselves.  They were not beta
 testers and Kalani is on overload from work and Nancy Jean is not back from
 the Azores yet.  And I'm out of town.  So save up your suggestions!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-09 Thread Marilyn Thompson
I looked at my information and it only showed my maternal line in my
tree. I know that I put in both sides, dad and mom's lines.

Guess I will see if I can find the upload location again

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very funny. At least your name is Cheri... not Maria.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those wanting to upload their Gedcoms to FTDNA, you can do it.

 For others, you can play with the new family tree feature.

 Don't know what they did with my 4 hours of beta testing.  Looks like they
 didn't take a single suggestion.  Such as Maria de Jesus.  I told them not
 to assume the last name in the field was a last name.  So they deleted it.
 I now have several women just named Maria.

 And low and behold, I'm not even connected to my mother!  We share DNA,
 yet we have ZERO people in common in our family trees.  Really?  It's the
 same database!

 Play around with it.  Make a list of features that don't work for you
 (because they did it from a North American centric point of view).  I'll
 tell you were to send it next week.  You can discuss it, but give Rick and
 Kalani some time to play around with it themselves.  They were not beta
 testers and Kalani is on overload from work and Nancy Jean is not back from
 the Azores yet.  And I'm out of town.  So save up your suggestions!

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-09 Thread Cheri Mello
The upload location is in the lower right corner.
Cheri

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote:

 I looked at my information and it only showed my maternal line in my
 tree. I know that I put in both sides, dad and mom's lines.

 Guess I will see if I can find the upload location again

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote:
  Very funny. At least your name is Cheri... not Maria.
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  For those wanting to upload their Gedcoms to FTDNA, you can do it.
 
  For others, you can play with the new family tree feature.
 
  Don't know what they did with my 4 hours of beta testing.  Looks like
 they
  didn't take a single suggestion.  Such as Maria de Jesus.  I told them
 not
  to assume the last name in the field was a last name.  So they deleted
 it.
  I now have several women just named Maria.
 
  And low and behold, I'm not even connected to my mother!  We share DNA,
  yet we have ZERO people in common in our family trees.  Really?  It's
 the
  same database!
 
  Play around with it.  Make a list of features that don't work for you
  (because they did it from a North American centric point of view).  I'll
  tell you were to send it next week.  You can discuss it, but give Rick
 and
  Kalani some time to play around with it themselves.  They were not beta
  testers and Kalani is on overload from work and Nancy Jean is not back
 from
  the Azores yet.  And I'm out of town.  So save up your suggestions!
 
  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
  Tainhas, Achada
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-09 Thread Mary Bordi
Been playing!

I need to redo my gedcom. And my mom's. I guess I didn't use ASCII
characters in the names (had noticed it before) so names like José end up
looking like José (If that even shows up here in email...!) It would be
difficult to match similar names in other trees.

Some womwn's have double first names... Maria Maria, Rosa Rosa, Joana
Joana...

Also, For me, it showed my mom as a possible link to me but then for
relationship I was only given the choices of spouse, sibling, son,
daughter. It wasn't clear if the relationship was hers to mine or mine to
hers.

My mom doesn't show a link to me, but I don't think I'm on her gedcom--I
ended it with her! :)

I'm on my iPad so I should check it out on my desktop computer. At least
this is better than Ancestry--I can no longer view my DNA matches there on
my iPad. :)

Mary

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those wanting to upload their Gedcoms to FTDNA, you can do it.

 For others, you can play with the new family tree feature.

 Don't know what they did with my 4 hours of beta testing.  Looks like they
 didn't take a single suggestion.  Such as Maria de Jesus.  I told them not
 to assume the last name in the field was a last name.  So they deleted it.
 I now have several women just named Maria.

 And low and behold, I'm not even connected to my mother!  We share DNA,
 yet we have ZERO people in common in our family trees.  Really?  It's the
 same database!

 Play around with it.  Make a list of features that don't work for you
 (because they did it from a North American centric point of view).  I'll
 tell you were to send it next week.  You can discuss it, but give Rick and
 Kalani some time to play around with it themselves.  They were not beta
 testers and Kalani is on overload from work and Nancy Jean is not back from
 the Azores yet.  And I'm out of town.  So save up your suggestions!

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

2014-09-09 Thread Cheri Mello
Mary B,

Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first
names and I got the middle name dropped.

As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it to
them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that you
found with the trees

Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that
Gedcom.

I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen
Louise.  That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have
Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and
everything, it may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I
have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show
Altino as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.

Cheri

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