Re: [backstage] RE: When are we going to get another list?
Damn good question... It was going to role out with the new website but given the issues surrounding that role out (broken DBs) - I think we ought to do this now let me work on getting it live this afternoon and I¹ll post the details. m On 3/10/07 19:09, Barry Carlyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was just going thru my items for follow up in outlook, and found this one. So, do we have another list yet? Bazza ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] New APIs... What next
News 24 subtitles in some just-about-live form please :) Steve On 4 Oct 2007, at 13:51, Matthew Cashmore wrote: So come on then... With a fresh burst of energy now the new mailing list is live I thought it was about time we asked that question again... What new feeds and APIs would you like to see from the BBC? Shout loudly and we’ll chase them up – if you’ve got a specific idea that requires a specific feed even better – but if you just fancy messing around with the innards of an obscure part of the organisation, that’s fun too ;-) m ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] New APIs... What next
Matt, I presume the 'generic minutes' from BBC wireless reporters around the globe is a non-starter? I would still like feeds of the subtitles from the BBC channels, so they can be used to index the visual content - including the BBC regional news at 1830-1859 Some way of getting the correct location (lat, long) for a BBC News web page would be great too - could map the content on maps then... iPlayer content feeds, as I suggested a while ago too... On 04/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So come on then... With a fresh burst of energy now the new mailing list is live I thought it was about time we asked that question again... What new feeds and APIs would you like to see from the BBC? Shout loudly and we'll chase them up – if you've got a specific idea that requires a specific feed even better – but if you just fancy messing around with the innards of an obscure part of the organisation, that's fun too ;-) m ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] New Developer Focused List
goodness me Richard... well for one, I'm giving a short talk on SVG in email tomorrow, see this list last week... unfortunately the deadline past, unless you have a really great reason, or want to meet for drinks afterwards... best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet On 4 Oct 2007, at 15:02, Richard Lockwood wrote: Why would you be sending SVG in an email? Cheers, Rich. On 10/4/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew, usualy chaos registering, perhaps not helped by your instructions? seems majordomo doesn't like html, neither do I, but it's currently the only way to send SVG and majordomo doesn't like anything in the subject line and best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet With either subscribe backstage-developer [your email] Or subscribe backstage-developer [your email] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] New Developer Focused List
Why would you be sending SVG in an email? Cheers, Rich. On 10/4/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew, usualy chaos registering, perhaps not helped by your instructions? seems majordomo doesn't like html, neither do I, but it's currently the only way to send SVG and majordomo doesn't like anything in the subject line and best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet With either subscribe backstage-developer [your email] Or subscribe backstage-developer [your email] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] New Developer Focused List
Matthew, usualy chaos registering, perhaps not helped by your instructions? seems majordomo doesn't like html, neither do I, but it's currently the only way to send SVG and majordomo doesn't like anything in the subject line and best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet With either subscribe backstage-developer [your email] Or subscribe backstage-developer [your email] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] New APIs... What next
Change to flash's crossdomain policy file on bbc.co.uk. Currently Flash's security sandbox won't allow flash hosted on non-BBC (sub)domains to load data like rss feeds. Its crossdomain policy file disallows access to data for all but *.bbc.co.uk hosted flash: http://www.bbc.co.uk/crossdomain.xml Yahoo allow non- *.yahoo sites already for Pipes: http://pipes.yahooapis.com/crossdomain.xml so you can get BBC data that way by using Pipes as a proxy, but it'd be good to get data direct from the source. S. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Newey Sent: 04 October 2007 14:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [backstage] New APIs... What next News 24 subtitles in some just-about-live form please :) Steve On 4 Oct 2007, at 13:51, Matthew Cashmore wrote: So come on then... With a fresh burst of energy now the new mailing list is live I thought it was about time we asked that question again... What new feeds and APIs would you like to see from the BBC? Shout loudly and we'll chase them up - if you've got a specific idea that requires a specific feed even better - but if you just fancy messing around with the innards of an obscure part of the organisation, that's fun too ;-) m ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] DMI prototype - a global media hub
Hi Richard Always interested in projects in this space. I'm not aware of any one project mapping all the standards you mention together but more open prototypes are definitely worthwhile. Have you posted this to Kendra's membership? Maybe you could pick up some partners there? HYPERLINK http://www.kendra.org.uk/http://www.kendra.org.uk/ We' re prototyping in this area, from a content creator's perspective, and tracking open content which could perhaps be useful. I think your idea has a lot of potential for creative brand management amongst other things, but the heterogenous nature of film/TV production means that formal mapping between content types is tricky. Best .M. Michela Ledwidge MOD Films +44 (0) 207 723 4764(phone/fax) +44 (0) 7775 840 950 (mobile) HYPERLINK http://modfilms.com/http://modfilms.com MOD Films on Facebook HYPERLINK http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8193990437http://www.facebook.com/gr oup.php?gid=8193990437 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Cartwright Sent: 03 October 2007 21:53 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] DMI prototype - a global media hub Having left the BBC back in February when I was aware of initial rumblings of the Digital Media Initiative, I was pleased to see that the BBC released information about DMI through Backstage. Joined-up end-to-end production of cross-media services will deliver a whole load of new and exciting services to the user and DMI is about providing the core technology for the capture, production, distribution and archive to do just that. For some great examples of the services of the future, see the use cases developed as part of the micro-navigation of data under development by “JUMMP: Joined Up Metadata for Media Playback” HYPERLINK http://www.jummp.net/;http://www.jummp.net/ I have a very ambitious idea about implementing a prototype version of the DMI model outside of the BBC using only open-source tools and open standards, possibly hosted in an environment such as the Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud with the Amazon Simple Storage Service (HYPERLINK http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=3435361;http://www.amazon.com/gp /browse.html?node=3435361). My vision is to create a global media hub using web services. Rather than using the data model released by the BBC, the prototype would map the concepts contained in the model to existing open standards, such as: * Advanced Authoring Format and Material Exchange Format (AAF/MXF) for wrapping essence (video, audio, data) with its metadata (HYPERLINK http://www.amwa.tv/;http://www.amwa.tv/), including edit decision lists, as supported by Avid, Quantel, Adobe et al.; * Ingex for low-cost content ingest of file-based content (http://ingex.sourceforge.net/); * Descriptive Metadata Scheme DMS-1 – a standard and extensible set of metadata to use in describing production content (SMPTE 380M downloadable for a fee from HYPERLINK http://store.smpte.org/;http://store.smpte.org/), which can be mapped to any of the following: * Dublin Core (HYPERLINK http://dublincore.org/;http://dublincore.org/), * TV Anytime (HYPERLINK http://www.tv-anytime.org/;http://www.tv-anytime.org/), * MPEG-7 (HYPERLINK http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm;http://www.ch iariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm); * MPEG-21 for expressing rights management information (HYPERLINK http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-21/mpeg-21.htm;http://www. chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-21/mpeg-21.htm); * MXF Mastering Format – for management of multiple versions of the similar content (different languages, title sequences for the same core video content etc.) (also HYPERLINK http://www.amwa.tv/;http://www.amwa.tv/); * Open Document Format for scripts, financial data, presentations, diagrams etc. associated with a production (HYPERLINK http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office;http://w ww.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office). All of the above standards should be generic enough to avoid the need to commit to any specific codec. What surprises me is that the data model as released by the BBC makes no external reference to existing standards such as those listed above. Surely this conflicts with a stated aim of DMI ... that it should “support open standards”? So what is my motivation? I am about to release an open-source API for AAF in Java that can be deployed to JBoss (HYPERLINK http://www.portability4media.com/publications/p4m_ibc2007_handout.pdf;http ://www.portability4media.com/publications/p4m_ibc2007_handout.pdf) and this would be the ultimate project to test it with. My concept is to set up a load-balanced cluster of JBoss application servers, possibly configured as a JBoss ESB, and to create process orchestration driven by JBPM (see HYPERLINK
Re: [backstage] New Developer Focused List
Sadly, much as I'd be interested to hear this, I'll be spending the evening investigating the interactive possibilities of the Wellingborough Beer Festival. I'm still very much of the opinion that email is for plain text with attachments, not HTML / Flash / embedded graphics / scripts etc. Call me old school if you like. ;-) Cheers, Rich. On 10/4/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: goodness me Richard... well for one, I'm giving a short talk on SVG in email tomorrow, see this list last week... unfortunately the deadline past, unless you have a really great reason, or want to meet for drinks afterwards... best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet On 4 Oct 2007, at 15:02, Richard Lockwood wrote: Why would you be sending SVG in an email? Cheers, Rich. On 10/4/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew, usualy chaos registering, perhaps not helped by your instructions? seems majordomo doesn't like html, neither do I, but it's currently the only way to send SVG and majordomo doesn't like anything in the subject line and best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet With either subscribe backstage-developer [your email] Or subscribe backstage-developer [your email] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] New Developer Focused List
The intial email that matthew sent didn’t specify so I used common sense and put the line in the subject and the message, So I am successfully on the list now :-) -- Barry Carlyon Webmaster LSRfm.com/LSweb.org.uk/leedsaction.co.uk/luubackstage.com mobile: 07729048443 skype: barrycarlyon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood Sent: 04 October 2007 15:02 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] New Developer Focused List Why would you be sending SVG in an email? Cheers, Rich. On 10/4/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew, usualy chaos registering, perhaps not helped by your instructions? seems majordomo doesn't like html, neither do I, but it's currently the only way to send SVG and majordomo doesn't like anything in the subject line and best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet With either subscribe backstage-developer [your email] Or subscribe backstage-developer [your email] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] New Developer Focused List
Richard, well the condensed version is that a very high proportion of the population cannot read and write. and for a significant proportion of these symbol support can prove successful. there are a number of commercial products out there, this is the open source version... from the senit list recently: Absolutely! The largest single group of pupils with additional support needs in Scotland are those with moderate/severe learning difficulties (25%), who are likely to benefit from symbol support regards Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet On 4 Oct 2007, at 15:30, Richard Lockwood wrote: Sadly, much as I'd be interested to hear this, I'll be spending the evening investigating the interactive possibilities of the Wellingborough Beer Festival. I'm still very much of the opinion that email is for plain text with attachments, not HTML / Flash / embedded graphics / scripts etc. Call me old school if you like. ;-) Cheers, Rich. On 10/4/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: goodness me Richard... well for one, I'm giving a short talk on SVG in email tomorrow, see this list last week... unfortunately the deadline past, unless you have a really great reason, or want to meet for drinks afterwards... best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet On 4 Oct 2007, at 15:02, Richard Lockwood wrote: Why would you be sending SVG in an email? Cheers, Rich. On 10/4/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew, usualy chaos registering, perhaps not helped by your instructions? seems majordomo doesn't like html, neither do I, but it's currently the only way to send SVG and majordomo doesn't like anything in the subject line and best wishes Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet With either subscribe backstage-developer [your email] Or subscribe backstage-developer [your email] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Thoughts from a previous BBC employee
Wasn't exactly what I was asking but there you go. I actually asked if Matt had noticed a natural cycle of communities starting, dying, reviving, peaking, dying... It was also in challenge to Matt saying he'd never seen a community die earlier in the talk. I'm not a keen metafilter person so prefered to hear what Derek Powazek had to say later to the same question. Because in his book design for communities he talks about this cycle in the last chapter as natural - http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Jhvfh6thHS8C#reviews_anchor I'm surprised Bobbie hasn't said anything about my blog post yet, I know he's aware of it ;) Cheers Ian Brian Butterworth wrote: Ian Forrester from BBC Backstage asks how dying communities can revive themselves. (Wonder why?) http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/10/03/future_of_web_apps_metafiltercom.html Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] From FoWA - Paul Graham from Y Combinator
I attended the FOWA conference and have quite a blog post saved up from my notes. But I wanted to explorer the myths or truths of Silicon Valley. Paul Graham this morning said you should move to silicon valley if your serious about this stuff or at least its an advantage. This caused quite a stir and prompted Ryan Carson (co-owner of the conference) to stand on stage afterwards and say its not about Silicon Valley and you can run successful start-ups anywhere in the world. This was further brought up in a discussion with the guys from Jaiku (finland) and Placez (germany). Tom Coates announced late this afternoon (not seen anything on his blog about it) he would be moving to San Francisco to run the yahoo startup-like project The Brickhouse (congrats tom!). And finally Dick Costolo from Feedburner (Chicago) had a few choice words to say about Paul Graham's its all about Silicon Valley comments. So anyway, I wondered what others felt about this issue? Bobbie has a nice overview of what was said by Paul earlier - http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/10/04/future_of_web_apps_paul_graham.html Cheers Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
