[Bacula-users] request to update documentation

2006-06-13 Thread Florian Schnabel
since the debian sarge package doesn't contain the create database 
script i just noticed nowhere in documentation is database encoding 
mentioned ... at least for me it's working with LATIN1 (got german 
characters in some files) .. UTF-8 and UNICODE both fail when bacula 
tries to insert records for some files

i suggest adding some info about that to documentation :-)


Florian


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Re: [Bacula-users] Error: You must specify a use catalog-namecommand before continuing

2006-06-13 Thread Ger Apeldoorn
Hi,

I've resolved the problem, but neglected to report in.. Sorry about that! :)

In bacula-dir.conf you have to find this section:

Console {
  Name = beagle-mon
  Password = boguspwd
  CatalogACL = MyCatalog -- Add this line
  CommandACL = status, .status
}

Restart or reload the director and you'll be fine!

Greetings,
Ger.

PS: thanks rlafond for reminding me!


On Tuesday 06 June 2006 13:05, Ger Apeldoorn wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 Thanks a lot for your reply!

 I'm sorry to say that I cannot find where to put it. My Client resources
 were already configured with a Catalog = MyCatalog line.

 Do I have to put it anywhere else?

 Btw: I could not find any reference to this in the releasenotes

 Many Thanks,
 Ger.

 On Tuesday 06 June 2006 11:37, you wrote:
  Hello Ger,
 
  it's in the release-notes... there is no more default-catalog
  since 1.38.6 (i think)...
 
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   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
   Of Ger Apeldoorn
   Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:09 AM
   To: bacula-users
   Subject: [Bacula-users] Error: You must specify a use
   catalog-namecommand before continuing
  
   Hi!
  
   I've reinstalled my system and copied the bacula database and
   configfiles of
   the previous installation.
  
   Now I get in the tray monitor: You must specify a use
   catalog-name
   command before continuing
  
   Furthermore; i'm having difficulties restoring files:
  
   %
   06-jun 10:13 beagle-dir: Start Restore Job
   RestoreFiles.2006-06-06_10.13.51
   06-jun 10:13 beagle-sd: RestoreFiles.2006-06-06_10.13.51 Fatal error:
   acquire.c:109 Read open device FileStorage (/mnt/bacula)
   Volume HDDWeekly02 failed: ERR=dev.c:450 Could not
   open: /mnt/bacula/HDDWeekly02, ERR=No such file or directory
   %
  
   I'm still investigating this, but they are probably related...
  
   Any ideas? The catalog name has not changed, the bacula
   version has gone up
   from 1.38.5 to 1.38.9.
  
   As bacula is our primary (and only) means of backup, I'd be
   grateful for any
   help!!
  
   Many thanks,
   Ger.
  
  
  
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Re: [Bacula-users] request to update documentation

2006-06-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
This issue is documented in the create_postgresql_database script. If Debian 
does not use this script, then they should be doing essentially the same 
thing (setting the encoding to SQL_ASCII or UTF8 depending on how you are 
running your system).  If they are not doing so, I would recommend that you 
file a Debian packaging bug report and refer them to the above mentioned 
script.  Note, Bacula consoles are only guaranteed to work correctly with 
UTF8 setting.  There is also code in the script to set the datestyle to a 
format that is usable by Bacula.

I believe that the documentation in the script is sufficient. If you do not 
agree, then please submit proposed text for the manual.

On Tuesday 13 June 2006 09:55, Florian Schnabel wrote:
 since the debian sarge package doesn't contain the create database
 script i just noticed nowhere in documentation is database encoding
 mentioned ... at least for me it's working with LATIN1 (got german
 characters in some files) .. UTF-8 and UNICODE both fail when bacula
 tries to insert records for some files

 i suggest adding some info about that to documentation :-)


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[Bacula-users] FreeBSD port for brestore

2006-06-13 Thread Dan Langille
Last night I created a FreeBSD port for brestore, a  restoration GUI 
for bacula

brestore:  http://cousinmarc.free.fr/
FreeBSD port: http://www.langille.org/www/brestore.tgz

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Re: [Bacula-users] FreeBSD port for brestore

2006-06-13 Thread Silver Salonen
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 14:39, Dan Langille wrote:
 Last night I created a FreeBSD port for brestore, a  restoration GUI 
 for bacula
 
 brestore:  http://cousinmarc.free.fr/
 FreeBSD port: http://www.langille.org/www/brestore.tgz

I guess you mean http://www.langille.org/tmp/brestore.tgz ? :)

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[Bacula-users] Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

2006-06-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello,

This is to let you know that Bacula 1.38.10 has been released to Source Forge, 
including the rpms.  The FC5 rpms are not yet posted, but will probably be 
uploaded in the next day or two (more on FC5 below).

This is primarily a bug fix release to 1.38.9, but also has a few backported 
fixes from the 1.39 code such as code to make the reload command much more 
stable and less prone to failure as well as code that *should* handle 
daylight savings changes (or any other radical clock change).  I say *should* 
because the new clock and reload code has not been tested as much as I would 
like.

Here are the major highlights for 1.38.10:
=
Warning for version 1.38.8 and greater:
- The Windows FD no longer automatically folds the case
  in wild-card comparions. To get the same behavior as before,
  you must explicitly use Ignore Case = yes in your FileSet.
- Backslashes are no longer permitted in File directives
  (typical error for Windows users), unless the string is
  enclosed in double quotes, in which case, the backslashes
  must be doubled.

Major Changes for 1.38.10:
- This is a primarily a bug fix release, with the following bugs being
  resolved #570, 609, 611, 613, 614, 617 as well as other bugs not
  reported in the bugs database. See below for details.
- The bconsole reload command should now work properly in virtually
  all situations thanks to the efforts of a number of people (Eric,
  Christopher, and myself).
- There is an untested fix to eliminate the scheduling problems (either
  no job run or the same job run twice) during sudden clock shifts (daylight
  savings time change).
- The manual has been released under the GNU Free Documentation License (FDL).
  The major difference is that this removes the prior restriction on
  commercial reproduction of the manual.
- Fixed a race condition (thanks to Christopher) on dual processor machines
  that caused jobs to block when starting with the SD.
===

Please read the ReleaseNotes for more details (included at the end of this 
email).

Fedora FC5 warning !!
I have recently upgraded a number of my machines (fortunately not my web 
server) to FC5, and I can say without reservation that it is the most 
unstable RedHat/Fedora system that I have ever seen.   Among my gripes:

- The new GNU C++ compiler spews out tons of warning messages for Bacula
  mostly concerning type punned pointers and strict anti-aliasing problems.
  It is now necessary to be a rocket scientist before even considering using
  the GNU C++ compiler :-(
- If I attempt to configure my printer, cups consumes every byte of available
  space on my / partition continuously logging the same authentication error
  message.
- All lpr filename output gets printed in Landscape rather than Portrait
  (programs such as OO and browsers that explicitly set the orientation do
  print correctly).
- At random all my Window borders disappear requiring me to abort X otherwise
  there is NO window management.
- The Bacula storage daemon gets a lot of errors of the following kind:
 Matou.2006-06-13_03.05.00 Error: block.c:538 Write error at 71:0 on
 device HP DLT 80 (/dev/nst0). ERR=Device or resource busy.
  which is absurd; there is only one file descriptor open, how can it be
  busy on a write request?
- While running the SD under gdb debugging this problem (which IMO is a kernel
  driver bug), the OS hangs.  An OS hang while running gdb, you got to be
  kidding, I haven't seen that for 5 years -- cool guys!
- The FC4 to FC5 upgrade fails in numerous ways, often leaving you with a
  system with half FC4 rpms and half FC5 rpms (this happened on several
  systems).  Trying to upgrade a half FC4/FC5 system is not fun, because
  nearly every way you turn, you have unresolved dependencies ...

In short FC5 is a *BAD* release, and if you are on FC4 and considering moving 
up to FC5, I would recommend reading over my list of woes before making any 
decision.

Concerning the FC5 rpms. Scott is not yet running an FC5 system (good choice 
Scott), so I am going to make the FC5 rpms, but given the general lack of 
stability, I am not sure when or how I am going to do it.

I'd sure like to get back to programming, and starting to wonder if it is 
possible to upgrade from FC5 to FC4 ...

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[ReleaseNotes] I
  Release Notes for Bacula 1.38.10

  Bacula code: Total files = 423 Total lines = 139,479 (*.h *.c *.in)

Warning for version 1.38.8 and greater:
- The Windows FD no longer automatically folds the case
  in wild-card comparions. To get the same behavior as before,
  you must explicitly use Ignore Case = yes in your FileSet.
- Backslashes are no longer permitted in File directives
  (typical error for Windows users), unless the string is
  enclosed in double quotes, in which case, the backslashes
  must be doubled.

Major Changes for 1.38.10:
- This 

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,
 
 This is to let you know that Bacula 1.38.10 has been released to Source 
 Forge, 
 including the rpms.  The FC5 rpms are not yet posted, but will probably be 
 uploaded in the next day or two (more on FC5 below).

I just want to express my thanks to Dan Langille for doing such a great
job of maintaining the FreeBSD port of Bacula.

The FreeBSD port of 1.38.10 was available faster than Kern could make this
announcement!

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[Bacula-users] Bcopy problems

2006-06-13 Thread Mario Augusto
Hello all.I have one bacula server, where the backup strategy occurs in the following way:- i have backup jobs that runs on the monday to friday at 12:30pm- and other backup jobs that runs at 09:00pm on the same weekdays- all of these jobs are written to volume (Backup-00[12]) on the disk(/backup partition)Example:Monday - the volume used is Backup-001Tuesday - the volume used is Backup-002Wednesday - the volume used is Backup-001 (the volume is recycled)and so onThe problem is that, this server have one unit of tape (DAT-72).What i want is to transfer all the backup made on the day to tape,without re-make all the jobs again in the bacula.I actually using the bcopy utility to do this task, however when iuse the bscan utility to scan the tape and store the backup informationto catalog (after 67%) i get these errors:bscan: bscan.c:563 Could not find SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 for EOS
 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40
 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.bscan: bscan.c:630 Could not find Job for SessId=40 SessTime=1149104161 record.And this errors repeat until the end, the count of files is incomplete, and sizeof the volume tested was 890MB.The comands i have used are:# bcopy -c /opt/bacula/etc/bacula-sd.conf -i Backup-002 -o Temp FileStorage FileStorageto make a copy of Backup-002 to disk on /backup, with the name Temp# bscan -c /opt/bacula/etc/bacula-sd.conf -P 'xx' -S -V Temp FileStorageto scan the volume previous copiedPS.: If i run the bscan in the original volume (Backup-002), i don't get errors.Info of my system:Linux: Suse Linux 10.0Kernel: 2.6.13-15-bigsmpBacula: 1.38.10Anyone have ideas? __Fale com seus amigos  de graça com o novo Yahoo!
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Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

2006-06-13 Thread Georger Araujo
Guys,
I too came across this problem, and solved it rather
easily.
The problem was that several files had restrictive
ACLs - the end users were (wrongfully) granted Full
Control to their folders, where Modify would suffice.
So I went through each folder with the error
ERR=Access is denied in the log file, and

1) Granted ownership of the folder to the
Administrators group, with the option to replace the
owner in all child objects;
2) Granted Full Control permissions to the
Administrators group, changed the users' group to only
have Modify, and replaced the permissions on all child
objects.

That did the trick for me. Regards,

Georger

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Hello jimbox, 
 
 maybe you detected the same problem I did some time
 ago. You should have a 
 look at postings with the subject Windows FD and
 Backup API. I didn't 
 solve the problem up to now and we stopped moving to
 bacula for most of 
 our backup jobs. But maybe you find a way to solve
 it. Would be great, 
 because bacula would be the backup-software of my
 choice if this problem 
 wouldn't exist. 
 
 Greetings 
 Christoph
 
 
 
 
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 Subject
 [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is
 denied
 
 
 
 
 
 
 bacula client version 1.38
 windows NT 4.0 SBS 4.5
 
 fyi: i was persistently (and inconsistently across
 directories)
 getting the error ERR=Access is denied while
 backing up this client.
 
 i couldnt find any online info addressing this.  i
 eventually deducted
 the problem to be subtrees that did not have at
 least read permissions
 for the local NT user System were unreadable by
 the bacula client.
 
 just sharing my findings so others might benefit.
 
 jimbox.

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[Bacula-users] Commercial Support

2006-06-13 Thread Hans Reichenecker



Hello,

we need a tool to 
backup from SAN to an autoloader (DELL PV-132). Our plattform is linux 
(RedHat).

To configure and 
test bacula we need professional Support. 

Locattion: near 
Stuttgart / Germany

Any experiences 
?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Client console restrictions

2006-06-13 Thread David Rodriguez Demelos

On Monday 12 June 2006 13:09, David Rodriguez Demelos wrote:
 I'm a new bacula user and I have a little problem with client console.
 I have configured the client console restrictions in bacula-dir.conf like
 this:

 ...

 Console {
   Name = Client Name
   Password = 
   JobACL = Job Client Name, RestoreFiles-Linux
   ClientACL = client-fd
   StorageACL = My Storage
   ScheduleACL = *all*
   PoolACL = *all*
   FileSetACL = Linux
   CatalogACL = MyCatalog
   CommandACL = run, q, quit, restore, status
 }

 ...

 With this configuration I want the client console only can use its jobs.
 When I execute run jobs from client it work ok, but when I execute a
 restore job from client with bconsole program and select the option number
 3 (Enter list of comma separated JobIds to select), I can select a other
 client job. Bacula launch a error message (bacula can not use this job),
 but the restore process continue and finally it restore this backup in the
 first client computer. This is very dangeraous, because any client can get
 another client data.

Bacula should not allow the user to use JobIds from another client, so this
sounds like a bug.  However, you will need to provide me with specific
output
showing this problem as well as a bit of information about your setup.  
Please see the Support Page of the Bacula web site.  In particular without
knowing what Bacula version you are using, I cannot even start ...

 How I can configure this for to solve this problem?

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Hi, tanks Kern for your attention.
My bacula server version is 1.38.9 and it is installed in Red Hat EL4. I
have a windows 2003 client (Davidov) and Red Hat EL4 client (brandy2) with
version 1.38.9 too. Furthermore I have two Debian clients (Corleone and LIA)
with version 1.36.3. I have the problem in all my clients.

I have configured my bacula-dir.conf file like this:


#
# Default Bacula Director Configuration file
#
#  The only thing that MUST be changed is to add one or more
#   file or directory names in the Include directive of the
#   FileSet resource.
#
#  For Bacula release 1.38.9 (02 May 2006) -- redhat Enterprise 3.0
#
#  You might also want to change the default email address
#   from root to your address.  See the mail and operator
#   directives in the Messages resource.
#
#
  Director  ##

Director {# define myself
  Name = bacula-dir
  Description = Director de Bacula
  DIRport = 9101# where we listen for UA connections
  QueryFile = /etc/bacula/query.sql
  WorkingDirectory = /var/bacula
  PidDirectory = /var/run
  Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20
  Password =  # Console password
  Messages = Standard
}



  JobDefs  ##

JobDefs {
  Name = Default
  Type = Backup
  Level = Full 
  Schedule = Setmanal
  Storage = FDA
  Messages = Standard
  Full Backup Pool = Full
  Pool = Full
  Priority = 10
  Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20
}



###  Jobs  

##
# Bacula Job #
##

Job {
  Name = Bacula
  Client = bacula-fd
  JobDefs = Default
  FileSet = Linux
  Write Bootstrap = /var/bacula/Bacula.bsr
}



###
# Brandy2 Job #
###

Job {
  Name = Brandy2
  Client = brandy2-fd
  JobDefs = Default
  FileSet = Linux
  Write Bootstrap = /var/bacula/Brandy2.bsr
}




# Corleone Job #


Job {
  Name = Corleone
  Client = corleone-fd
  JobDefs = Default
  FileSet = Linux
  Write Bootstrap = /var/bacula/Corleone.bsr
}



###
# LIA Job #
###

Job {
  Name = LIA
  Client = LIA-fd
  JobDefs = Default
  FileSet = Linux
  Write Bootstrap = /var/bacula/LIA.bsr
}



###
# Davidov Job #
###

Job {
  Name = Davidov
  Client = davidov-fd
  JobDefs = Default
  FileSet = Windows
  Write Bootstrap = /var/bacula/Davidov.bsr
}



#
# BackupCatalog Job #
#

Job {
  Name = BackupCatalog
  Type = Backup
  JobDefs = Default
  Level = Full
  Client = bacula-fd
  FileSet=Catalog
  Schedule = Setmanal-Despres-Backup
  Storage = FDA
  Messages = Standard
  Pool = Full
  # This creates an ASCII copy of the catalog
  RunBeforeJob = /etc/bacula/make_catalog_backup bacula bacula
  # This deletes the copy of the catalog
  RunAfterJob  = /etc/bacula/delete_catalog_backup
  Write Bootstrap = /var/bacula/BackupCatalog.bsr
  Priority = 11   # run after main backup
  Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20
}



##

[Bacula-users] bug in bacula documentation

2006-06-13 Thread David Rodriguez Demelos

Hi,

I think that I have found a bug in chapter Using stunnel to encrypt
comunications to clients in bacula documentation.
Especifically in config Files for stunnel to Encrypt the Control Channel
section.
There are a example of stunnel-dir.conf and stunnel-fd1.conf files, and
two files are identical. Look like a copy-paste bug.
Furthermore, I think that this chapter is not explained very well. There are
things not very clear.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Tape Loader - Experiences?

2006-06-13 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,
 
 I don't want to plug any particular company, but at least here in 
 Switzerland, 
 Dell is offering a PowerVault PV124T LTO-2 L at an incredible price.  It 
 holds something like 16 tapes and has a barcode reader, and comes with a 3 
 year service contract -- total CHF 5689.  I'll let you convert to your 
 currency (probably Euro's).  I cannot guarantee that the device works with 
 Bacula, but I have yet to see a modern autochanger fail to work with Bacula 
 (mtx really).  If it interests you connect to www.dell.ch  E-code 
 DMCH4-PV06124L  I would be surprised if they are not offering the same thing 
 in Germany.  If I didn't already have two autochangers, I would probably get 
 one of those devices -- for me the only downside is that it is a 2U 
 rackmount.

We have a Dell PowerVault LTO-2, but it's only an 8 tape unit.  It works
flawlessly with Bacula.

The only problem I have with the unit is the picker can't import/export
other tapes if there is a tape in the drive.  IOW: if I'm making a
backup to tape0, I can't export tape1 until tape0 is unmounted.

If that one flaw isn't a problem for you, go for it.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Tape not loaded (using 1.36.2)

2006-06-13 Thread Martin Simmons
 On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:32:26 +0200, Davide Bolcioni said:
 
 Greetings,
 in case of a power outage, after a while the bacula server is turned off
 by the UPS after an orderly shutdown. One consequence of this is that
 the LTO tape is ejected. When the server is restarted, however, the tape
 is not loaded when bacula starts, although I have AutomaticMount = yes
 and AlwaysOpen = yes in bacula-sd.conf. What am I missing ?

Does the tape eject when you shut down the bacula daemons using the init
scripts?  If so, do you have Offline On Unmount = yes in bacula-sd.conf?

If not, something else must be ejecting the tape, e.g. a system shutdown
script.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Tape Loader - Experiences?

2006-06-13 Thread Ralf Gross
Dirk H. Schulz schrieb:
 
 I am thinking about what tape loader to buy, so I would like to have as 
 much feedback as possible about your experience regarding reliability 
 and service quality.
 
 My favorite would be LTO2 oder LTO3 with 8 oder 16 Slots from Quantum, 
 Tandberg or IBM.
 But I am thinking also about Sony StorStation with AIT3 or 4 with 16 Slots.
 
 Sony is said to have a fest replacement service (at least in Germany) 
 that really does its job.
 What about the other 3 Companies:
 - Someone out there using these loaders (and if yes, on Linux, 
 preferably Debian)?
 - Any experience with Service in case of problems?

I've had good experiences with a Qualstar AIT-2 Lib. At the moment
we're also looking for a new lib, we'll probably choose a LTO3 based
one because of the higher backupc capacity. 

Take a look at http://www.starline.de/ or http://www.transtec.de/.
They have libs from different companies.

Ralf


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Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

2006-06-13 Thread Robert Nelson
That wasn't a flame, I guess I should have put in a :-). 

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Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

On Tuesday 13 June 2006 19:59, Robert Nelson wrote:
 Why do we always fear and hate that which we do not understand?

I fear very little, but I hate complicated things.

Unfortunately, with Gnome, even Linux is heading into complicated waters,
and 
even more unfortunately, Bacula is right on the border line too.

I suppose I will get flamed for that too -- oh well, I've somehow managed to

get flamed (mostly off-list) at least three times today.


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 Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:16 AM
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 Cc: Georger Araujo
 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

 On Tuesday 13 June 2006 16:51, Georger Araujo wrote:
  Guys,
  I too came across this problem, and solved it rather
  easily.
  The problem was that several files had restrictive
  ACLs - the end users were (wrongfully) granted Full
  Control to their folders, where Modify would suffice.
  So I went through each folder with the error
  ERR=Access is denied in the log file, and
 
  1) Granted ownership of the folder to the
  Administrators group, with the option to replace the
  owner in all child objects;
  2) Granted Full Control permissions to the
  Administrators group, changed the users' group to only
  have Modify, and replaced the permissions on all child
  objects.
 
  That did the trick for me. Regards,

 Ar. Only Microsoft could come up with some way to prevent even the
most
 privileged of programs from backing up their data!

 Thanks for the info.  I'll add this to the manual.

  Georger
 
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   Hello jimbox,
  
   maybe you detected the same problem I did some time
   ago. You should have a
   look at postings with the subject Windows FD and
   Backup API. I didn't
   solve the problem up to now and we stopped moving to
   bacula for most of
   our backup jobs. But maybe you find a way to solve
   it. Would be great,
   because bacula would be the backup-software of my
   choice if this problem
   wouldn't exist.
  
   Greetings
   Christoph
  
  
  
  
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   Subject
   [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is
   denied
  
  
  
  
  
  
   bacula client version 1.38
   windows NT 4.0 SBS 4.5
  
   fyi: i was persistently (and inconsistently across
   directories)
   getting the error ERR=Access is denied while
   backing up this client.
  
   i couldnt find any online info addressing this.  i
   eventually deducted
   the problem to be subtrees that did not have at
   least read permissions
   for the local NT user System were unreadable by
   the bacula client.
  
   just sharing my findings so others might benefit.
  
   jimbox.
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] date in disk volume label

2006-06-13 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/13/2006 5:09 PM, Jeff Dickens wrote:
 Is there ever any point in including the date or jobname in the label
 for a disk volume?  I had a pool defined as follows:
 
 Pool {
Name = xyz-pool-full
Pool Type = Backup
Recycle = yes
AutoPrune = yes
Volume Retention = 2 months
Use Volume Once = yes
LabelFormat = ${Level}-${JobName}
 }
 
 The volumes got labeled as expected with the Level and Job Name (which
 includes the client name, date  time).  But then when the volumes were
 recycled, the volume label remained the same, referring to a job that
 had been recycled and a date in the past.
 
 Does it make more sense in this case to just use the level and client
 name and let it just number the volumes sequentially?

In my opinion, when you use automatic recycling and have no strict 
relationship between jobs, levels, clients r dates with volumes, I at 
least prefer more abstract volume names. As long as Bacula knows which 
jobs are on any given volume I don't see the need to give them telling 
names.

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Re: [Bacula-users] can bacula retry an aborted Job?

2006-06-13 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/13/2006 5:54 PM, Maik Derstappen wrote:
 If an backupjob is aborted because of temporary network error.
 It could be nice, if bacula can continues the aborted Jobs.

Yes, indeed.

 Because in the case of an remote backup, it saves many times and trafics 
 on big jobs.
 
 is it possible to do that?

No. I suppose a major rewrite of Baculas comunication layer would be 
necessary for that...

You might try to use a VPN connection - AFAIK, using a VPN, a broken 
underlying connection does not automatically mean the VPN link breaks, too.

Arno

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

2006-06-13 Thread Georger Araujo
I'll try CentOS 4.3. It's the closest you can get to
RHEL4 without paying. I'll run my Oracle 10g test
environment on it, and Bacula as well.

Georger

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 In short FC5 is a *BAD* release, and if you are on
 FC4 and considering moving 
 up to FC5, I would recommend reading over my list
 of woes before making any 
 decision.
 
 Concerning the FC5 rpms. Scott is not yet running
 an FC5 system (good choice 
 Scott), so I am going to make the FC5 rpms, but
 given the general lack of 
 stability, I am not sure when or how I am going to
 do it.
 
 I'd sure like to get back to programming, and
 starting to wonder if it is 
 possible to upgrade from FC5 to FC4 ...
 
 Kern:
 
 Thanks for the warning. I have the FC5 CDs here and
 was going to try
 an upgrade on my FC4 box this coming
 weekendguess I'll put that
 off for a bit and install 1.38.10 instead on FC4 :)
 
 Thanks seriously for the update!
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

2006-06-13 Thread Arno Lehmann
On 6/13/2006 9:18 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 On Tuesday 13 June 2006 19:59, Robert Nelson wrote:
 
Why do we always fear and hate that which we do not understand?
 
 
 I fear very little, but I hate complicated things.
 
 Unfortunately, with Gnome, even Linux is heading into complicated waters, and 
 even more unfortunately, Bacula is right on the border line too.

Good point. Unfortunately, I there's no way to avoid it as long as you 
want to implement new features, fix bugs or misbehaviours, and build the 
right program for as many people as possible.

And, I don't think you need Gnome to make Linux complicated - 
SUSE/Novell is sufficient :-) Or perhaps it's only because I can't spend 
as much time with a new distribution than I could some years ago... or I 
can't stuff any more things into my head ;-)

 I suppose I will get flamed for that too -- oh well, I've somehow managed to 
 get flamed (mostly off-list) at least three times today.

Sounds interesting... but I suppose it's the weather (at least here it's 
just too hot...)

Arno

 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:16 AM
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Georger Araujo
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

On Tuesday 13 June 2006 16:51, Georger Araujo wrote:

Guys,
I too came across this problem, and solved it rather
easily.
The problem was that several files had restrictive
ACLs - the end users were (wrongfully) granted Full
Control to their folders, where Modify would suffice.
So I went through each folder with the error
ERR=Access is denied in the log file, and

1) Granted ownership of the folder to the
Administrators group, with the option to replace the
owner in all child objects;
2) Granted Full Control permissions to the
Administrators group, changed the users' group to only
have Modify, and replaced the permissions on all child
objects.

That did the trick for me. Regards,

Ar. Only Microsoft could come up with some way to prevent even the most
privileged of programs from backing up their data!

Thanks for the info.  I'll add this to the manual.


Georger

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

Hello jimbox,

maybe you detected the same problem I did some time
ago. You should have a
look at postings with the subject Windows FD and
Backup API. I didn't
solve the problem up to now and we stopped moving to
bacula for most of
our backup jobs. But maybe you find a way to solve
it. Would be great,
because bacula would be the backup-software of my
choice if this problem
wouldn't exist.

Greetings
Christoph




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bacula client version 1.38
windows NT 4.0 SBS 4.5

fyi: i was persistently (and inconsistently across
directories)
getting the error ERR=Access is denied while
backing up this client.

i couldnt find any online info addressing this.  i
eventually deducted
the problem to be subtrees that did not have at
least read permissions
for the local NT user System were unreadable by
the bacula client.

just sharing my findings so others might benefit.

jimbox.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Tape Loader - Experiences?

2006-06-13 Thread Christoff Buch

Hi Dirk,

I am using an Exabyte 221L Tape Library
with currently one LTO-2 (IBM UltriumTD2) streamer and 3 Magazines, each
7 slots = 21 slots.
We work with the machine for about 2
years now.
Up to now very reliable: No defects
whatsoever = no service experience.

I'm productive with bacula-1.38.9 for
two hours now (first productive backup presently running).
I've done thorough testing during the
last weeks, so I'm very optimistic about tomorrow's results.
Test backup / restores all worked.
It's on SuSE 9.0.

Mit freundlichem Gruß

i. A. Christoff Buch

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Hi folks,

I am thinking about what tape loader to buy, so I would like to have as

much feedback as possible about your experience regarding reliability 
and service quality.

My favorite would be LTO2 oder LTO3 with 8 oder 16 Slots from Quantum,

Tandberg or IBM.
But I am thinking also about Sony StorStation with AIT3 or 4 with 16 Slots.

Sony is said to have a fest replacement service (at least in Germany) 
that really does its job.
What about the other 3 Companies:
- Someone out there using these loaders (and if yes, on Linux, 
preferably Debian)?
- Any experience with Service in case of problems?

Thanks for your input.

Dirk


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[Bacula-users] FC5 was RE: Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

2006-06-13 Thread Robert Nelson
Hmm, that's too bad about your FC5 experience.  I've been running it here
for a couple of months without any of these issues on an AMD 64 machine.  I
also upgraded from FC4.  Granted I don't have any printers attached to it
all my printers are network attached.

As far as the compiler is concerned, I don't think that is really the fault
of Fedora.  The compiler folks have just improved? the optimization.  One of
the drawbacks of increased optimization is you need to make some assumptions
about the code.  While those assumptions may be valid with some code it
isn't valid with others and the compiler tells you not to use those
optimizations.

Adding -fno-strict-aliasing should eliminate most of those warnings and make
the code more stable.

What Window manager are you using with X?  I haven't had any problems with
gnome but I don't think KDE is as well tested.

The only issue I've ever been able to attribute directly to redhat was a
change they made to mtx that is definitely busted and doesn't work with some
tape drives but I think it was also in FC4.

I'll take a look at the st driver changes between FC4 and FC5 and see what
they've done.


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Subject: [Bacula-users] Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

Hello,

[...Release Information Removed]

Fedora FC5 warning !!
I have recently upgraded a number of my machines (fortunately not my web 
server) to FC5, and I can say without reservation that it is the most 
unstable RedHat/Fedora system that I have ever seen.   Among my gripes:

- The new GNU C++ compiler spews out tons of warning messages for Bacula
  mostly concerning type punned pointers and strict anti-aliasing
problems.
  It is now necessary to be a rocket scientist before even considering using
  the GNU C++ compiler :-(
- If I attempt to configure my printer, cups consumes every byte of
available
  space on my / partition continuously logging the same authentication error
  message.
- All lpr filename output gets printed in Landscape rather than Portrait
  (programs such as OO and browsers that explicitly set the orientation do
  print correctly).
- At random all my Window borders disappear requiring me to abort X
otherwise
  there is NO window management.
- The Bacula storage daemon gets a lot of errors of the following kind:
 Matou.2006-06-13_03.05.00 Error: block.c:538 Write error at 71:0 on
 device HP DLT 80 (/dev/nst0). ERR=Device or resource busy.
  which is absurd; there is only one file descriptor open, how can it be
  busy on a write request?
- While running the SD under gdb debugging this problem (which IMO is a
kernel
  driver bug), the OS hangs.  An OS hang while running gdb, you got to be
  kidding, I haven't seen that for 5 years -- cool guys!
- The FC4 to FC5 upgrade fails in numerous ways, often leaving you with a
  system with half FC4 rpms and half FC5 rpms (this happened on several
  systems).  Trying to upgrade a half FC4/FC5 system is not fun, because
  nearly every way you turn, you have unresolved dependencies ...

In short FC5 is a *BAD* release, and if you are on FC4 and considering
moving 
up to FC5, I would recommend reading over my list of woes before making any 
decision.

Concerning the FC5 rpms. Scott is not yet running an FC5 system (good choice

Scott), so I am going to make the FC5 rpms, but given the general lack of 
stability, I am not sure when or how I am going to do it.

I'd sure like to get back to programming, and starting to wonder if it is 
possible to upgrade from FC5 to FC4 ...

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[ReleaseNotes] I
  Release Notes for Bacula 1.38.10

  Bacula code: Total files = 423 Total lines = 139,479 (*.h *.c *.in)

Warning for version 1.38.8 and greater:
- The Windows FD no longer automatically folds the case
  in wild-card comparions. To get the same behavior as before,
  you must explicitly use Ignore Case = yes in your FileSet.
- Backslashes are no longer permitted in File directives
  (typical error for Windows users), unless the string is
  enclosed in double quotes, in which case, the backslashes
  must be doubled.

Major Changes for 1.38.10:
- This is a primarily a bug fix release, with the following bugs being
  resolved #570, 609, 611, 613, 614, 617 as well as other bugs not
  reported in the bugs database. See below for details.
- The bconsole reload command should now work properly in virtually
  all situations thanks to the efforts of a number of people (Eric,
  Christopher, and myself).
- There is an untested fix to eliminate the scheduling problems (either
  no job run or the same job run twice) during sudden clock shifts (daylight
  savings time change).
- The manual has been released under the GNU Free Documentation 

Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

2006-06-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 22:18, Robert Nelson wrote:
 That wasn't a flame, I guess I should have put in a :-).

Yea, you are right, it really wasn't a flame.  I guess I'm a bit grumpy 
because since I got back from a wonderful vacation, I've had no end of 
software problems, and even my autochanger broke down ...  

I think I've just knocked off the last one (printer that insisted on printing 
everything in Landscape, which pretty much doubled the number of trees I 
consume every day ...


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 Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:18 PM
 To: Robert Nelson
 Cc: 'Georger Araujo'; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

 On Tuesday 13 June 2006 19:59, Robert Nelson wrote:
  Why do we always fear and hate that which we do not understand?

 I fear very little, but I hate complicated things.

 Unfortunately, with Gnome, even Linux is heading into complicated waters,
 and
 even more unfortunately, Bacula is right on the border line too.

 I suppose I will get flamed for that too -- oh well, I've somehow managed
 to

 get flamed (mostly off-list) at least three times today.

  -Original Message-
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  Sibbald
  Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:16 AM
  To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Cc: Georger Araujo
  Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied
 
  On Tuesday 13 June 2006 16:51, Georger Araujo wrote:
   Guys,
   I too came across this problem, and solved it rather
   easily.
   The problem was that several files had restrictive
   ACLs - the end users were (wrongfully) granted Full
   Control to their folders, where Modify would suffice.
   So I went through each folder with the error
   ERR=Access is denied in the log file, and
  
   1) Granted ownership of the folder to the
   Administrators group, with the option to replace the
   owner in all child objects;
   2) Granted Full Control permissions to the
   Administrators group, changed the users' group to only
   have Modify, and replaced the permissions on all child
   objects.
  
   That did the trick for me. Regards,
 
  Ar. Only Microsoft could come up with some way to prevent even the

 most

  privileged of programs from backing up their data!
 
  Thanks for the info.  I'll add this to the manual.
 
   Georger
  
   --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
Hello jimbox,
   
maybe you detected the same problem I did some time
ago. You should have a
look at postings with the subject Windows FD and
Backup API. I didn't
solve the problem up to now and we stopped moving to
bacula for most of
our backup jobs. But maybe you find a way to solve
it. Would be great,
because bacula would be the backup-software of my
choice if this problem
wouldn't exist.
   
Greetings
Christoph
   
   
   
   
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denied
   
   
   
   
   
   
bacula client version 1.38
windows NT 4.0 SBS 4.5
   
fyi: i was persistently (and inconsistently across
directories)
getting the error ERR=Access is denied while
backing up this client.
   
i couldnt find any online info addressing this.  i
eventually deducted
the problem to be subtrees that did not have at
least read permissions
for the local NT user System were unreadable by
the bacula client.
   
just sharing my findings so others might benefit.
   
jimbox.
  
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Re: [Bacula-users] can bacula retry an aborted Job?

2006-06-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 22:23, Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Hi,

 On 6/13/2006 5:54 PM, Maik Derstappen wrote:
  If an backupjob is aborted because of temporary network error.
  It could be nice, if bacula can continues the aborted Jobs.

 Yes, indeed.

  Because in the case of an remote backup, it saves many times and trafics
  on big jobs.
 
  is it possible to do that?

 No. I suppose a major rewrite of Baculas comunication layer would be
 necessary for that...

It is unlikely something that I personally will do in any case, because a 
couple of the basic premises on which Bacula was designed was that IP very 
rarely makes final delivery errors, so we can rely on the underlying OS to 
ensure correct delivery (don't reinvent the wheel), and that Internet 
connections will be extremely reliable. 

I have found both of these to be true.  I never get dropped connections here 
for anything I am doing, and if users experience dropped lines, IMO, they 
probably have either an ethnet card problem or should do some serious talking 
to their ISP.


 You might try to use a VPN connection - AFAIK, using a VPN, a broken
 underlying connection does not automatically mean the VPN link breaks, too.

One more good reason to let the experts (VPN writers) do their work, and 
Bacula will just worry about keeping track of the data.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied

2006-06-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 22:30, Arno Lehmann wrote:
 On 6/13/2006 9:18 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
  On Tuesday 13 June 2006 19:59, Robert Nelson wrote:
 Why do we always fear and hate that which we do not understand?
 
  I fear very little, but I hate complicated things.
 
  Unfortunately, with Gnome, even Linux is heading into complicated waters,
  and even more unfortunately, Bacula is right on the border line too.

 Good point. Unfortunately, I there's no way to avoid it as long as you
 want to implement new features, fix bugs or misbehaviours, and build the
 right program for as many people as possible.

 And, I don't think you need Gnome to make Linux complicated -
 SUSE/Novell is sufficient :-) Or perhaps it's only because I can't spend
 as much time with a new distribution than I could some years ago... or I
 can't stuff any more things into my head ;-)

  I suppose I will get flamed for that too -- oh well, I've somehow managed
  to get flamed (mostly off-list) at least three times today.

 Sounds interesting... but I suppose it's the weather (at least here it's
 just too hot...)

Yes, it is a bit warm here too (at least the fact that I am at 650 meters 
means generally cools off at night).  However, the flame problem is 
probably because I'm grumpy and when I am grumpy, I tend to be less 
diplomatic :-)


 Arno

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern
 Sibbald
 Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:16 AM
 To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Cc: Georger Araujo
 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied
 
 On Tuesday 13 June 2006 16:51, Georger Araujo wrote:
 Guys,
 I too came across this problem, and solved it rather
 easily.
 The problem was that several files had restrictive
 ACLs - the end users were (wrongfully) granted Full
 Control to their folders, where Modify would suffice.
 So I went through each folder with the error
 ERR=Access is denied in the log file, and
 
 1) Granted ownership of the folder to the
 Administrators group, with the option to replace the
 owner in all child objects;
 2) Granted Full Control permissions to the
 Administrators group, changed the users' group to only
 have Modify, and replaced the permissions on all child
 objects.
 
 That did the trick for me. Regards,
 
 Ar. Only Microsoft could come up with some way to prevent even the
  most privileged of programs from backing up their data!
 
 Thanks for the info.  I'll add this to the manual.
 
 Georger
 
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 Hello jimbox,
 
 maybe you detected the same problem I did some time
 ago. You should have a
 look at postings with the subject Windows FD and
 Backup API. I didn't
 solve the problem up to now and we stopped moving to
 bacula for most of
 our backup jobs. But maybe you find a way to solve
 it. Would be great,
 because bacula would be the backup-software of my
 choice if this problem
 wouldn't exist.
 
 Greetings
 Christoph
 
 
 
 
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 To
 bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 Subject
 [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is
 denied
 
 
 
 
 
 
 bacula client version 1.38
 windows NT 4.0 SBS 4.5
 
 fyi: i was persistently (and inconsistently across
 directories)
 getting the error ERR=Access is denied while
 backing up this client.
 
 i couldnt find any online info addressing this.  i
 eventually deducted
 the problem to be subtrees that did not have at
 least read permissions
 for the local NT user System were unreadable by
 the bacula client.
 
 just sharing my findings so others might benefit.
 
 jimbox.
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] FC5 was RE: Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

2006-06-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 22:54, Robert Nelson wrote:
 Hmm, that's too bad about your FC5 experience.  

Yes, it is my first really bad experience with RedHat/Fedora.

 I've been running it here 
 for a couple of months without any of these issues on an AMD 64 machine.  I
 also upgraded from FC4.  Granted I don't have any printers attached to it
 all my printers are network attached.

I also ran it here for several months but on a machine that is not heavily 
used.  The problems started happening when I upgraded my backup server, then 
got worse when I upgraded my development machine.


 As far as the compiler is concerned, I don't think that is really the fault
 of Fedora.  

Well, it is Fedora that decides exactly when to upgrade.

 The compiler folks have just improved? the optimization.  One 
 of the drawbacks of increased optimization is you need to make some
 assumptions about the code.  While those assumptions may be valid with some
 code it isn't valid with others and the compiler tells you not to use those
 optimizations.

I have to admit that they do warn you, but I would also say that I have been 
using compilers for a *very* long time, and this is the first time that I 
have had what I thought was a simple upgrade generate such an enormous number 
of new warning messages.


 Adding -fno-strict-aliasing should eliminate most of those warnings and
 make the code more stable.

Yes, I am aware of that, but it also requires testing for GNU C++ and adding 
the option, all of which is a lot of work for code that has worked fine for 6 
years now.


 What Window manager are you using with X?  I haven't had any problems with
 gnome but I don't think KDE is as well tested.

I'm using KDE.


 The only issue I've ever been able to attribute directly to redhat was a
 change they made to mtx that is definitely busted and doesn't work with
 some tape drives but I think it was also in FC4.

I don't particularly attribute these problems directly to RedHat, but they are 
the ones packaging it all together, and I am getting the unpleasant feeling 
that they are trying to move Fedora too fast.


 I'll take a look at the st driver changes between FC4 and FC5 and see what
 they've done.

Thanks. Please don't spend too much time on it.



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 Subject: [Bacula-users] Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

 Hello,

 [...Release Information Removed]

 Fedora FC5 warning !!
 I have recently upgraded a number of my machines (fortunately not my web
 server) to FC5, and I can say without reservation that it is the most
 unstable RedHat/Fedora system that I have ever seen.   Among my gripes:

 - The new GNU C++ compiler spews out tons of warning messages for Bacula
   mostly concerning type punned pointers and strict anti-aliasing
 problems.
   It is now necessary to be a rocket scientist before even considering
 using the GNU C++ compiler :-(
 - If I attempt to configure my printer, cups consumes every byte of
 available
   space on my / partition continuously logging the same authentication
 error message.
 - All lpr filename output gets printed in Landscape rather than Portrait
   (programs such as OO and browsers that explicitly set the orientation do
   print correctly).
 - At random all my Window borders disappear requiring me to abort X
 otherwise
   there is NO window management.
 - The Bacula storage daemon gets a lot of errors of the following kind:
  Matou.2006-06-13_03.05.00 Error: block.c:538 Write error at 71:0 on
  device HP DLT 80 (/dev/nst0). ERR=Device or resource busy.
   which is absurd; there is only one file descriptor open, how can it be
   busy on a write request?
 - While running the SD under gdb debugging this problem (which IMO is a
 kernel
   driver bug), the OS hangs.  An OS hang while running gdb, you got to be
   kidding, I haven't seen that for 5 years -- cool guys!
 - The FC4 to FC5 upgrade fails in numerous ways, often leaving you with a
   system with half FC4 rpms and half FC5 rpms (this happened on several
   systems).  Trying to upgrade a half FC4/FC5 system is not fun, because
   nearly every way you turn, you have unresolved dependencies ...

 In short FC5 is a *BAD* release, and if you are on FC4 and considering
 moving
 up to FC5, I would recommend reading over my list of woes before making any
 decision.

 Concerning the FC5 rpms. Scott is not yet running an FC5 system (good
 choice

 Scott), so I am going to make the FC5 rpms, but given the general lack of
 stability, I am not sure when or how I am going to do it.

 I'd sure like to get back to programming, and starting to wonder if it is
 possible to upgrade from FC5 to FC4 ...

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