Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-23 Thread Martin Simmons
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:29:20 -0700, Robert W Hartzell said:
> 
> Martin Simmons wrote:
> >> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:27:18 -0700, Robert W Hartzell said:
> 
>  I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as 
>  I 
>  wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  
>  This 
>  will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger that 
>  the 
>  user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write 
>  some 
>  code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would 
>  like 
>  it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  
> >>> Another workaround is to list the mounted filesystems in an Exclude 
> >>> option.
> >>>
> >>> __Martin
> >> This doesn't work on 1.38.6 the messages are still printed.
> > 
> > That's strange, because (from the source) it looks like it should work from
> > 1.35.6 onwards.  Maybe your Exclude syntax is wrong?
> > 
> > __Martin
> 
> I think its correct but I haven't looked at it in about a year.
> 
> FileSet {
>Name = "ns1-full-set"
>Include {
>  Options {
>signature = MD5
>  }
>  File = /
>  File = /export/home
>}
>Exclude {
>  File = /export/bacula/*
>  File = /export/storage/*
>  File = /net/*
>  File = /var/run/*
>  File = /etc/svc/volatile/*
>  File = /proc/*
>  File = /system/contract/*
>  File = /system/object/*
>  File = /tmp/*
>  File = /devices/*
>  File = /home/*
>  File = /vol/*
>}
> }
> 
> All of the disk and tmpfs mount points are correctly re-created on restore.

Hmm, I suspect the problem is that Bacula will be looking at "/export/storage"
etc when it prints the message, which doesn't match "/export/storage/*" etc.

Unfortunately, if you instead put "/export/storage" etc in the Excludes then
restore will not re-create these mount points :-(

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-22 Thread Robert W Hartzell
Martin Simmons wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:27:18 -0700, Robert W Hartzell said:

 I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as I 
 wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  
 This 
 will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger that 
 the 
 user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write 
 some 
 code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would 
 like 
 it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  
>>> Another workaround is to list the mounted filesystems in an Exclude option.
>>>
>>> __Martin
>> This doesn't work on 1.38.6 the messages are still printed.
> 
> That's strange, because (from the source) it looks like it should work from
> 1.35.6 onwards.  Maybe your Exclude syntax is wrong?
> 
> __Martin

I think its correct but I haven't looked at it in about a year.

FileSet {
   Name = "ns1-full-set"
   Include {
 Options {
   signature = MD5
 }
 File = /
 File = /export/home
   }
   Exclude {
 File = /export/bacula/*
 File = /export/storage/*
 File = /net/*
 File = /var/run/*
 File = /etc/svc/volatile/*
 File = /proc/*
 File = /system/contract/*
 File = /system/object/*
 File = /tmp/*
 File = /devices/*
 File = /home/*
 File = /vol/*
   }
}

All of the disk and tmpfs mount points are correctly re-created on restore.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-22 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 11:39, Martin Simmons wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:27:18 -0700, Robert W Hartzell said:
> > 
> > Martin Simmons wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:08:28 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
> > >> On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:33, Jo Rhett wrote:
> >  On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
> > It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean  
> > that the
> > filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
> > >
> > The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
> > filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included  
> > in the
> > fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted  
> > filesystem
> > isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
> > Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.
> > >>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >  Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be  
> >  nice if
> >  someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and  
> >  backward" look
> >  through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified  
> >  directly
> >  somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.
> > >>> Or how about an option to disable these messages in the Message  
> > >>> section?  Trust me when I say that we always backup all we care to.
> > >>> I never want to see these messages (and have it fact disabled them  
> > >>> for us by editing the source, which isn't all that portable).
> > >> I am not much in favor of an option to disable these messages -- 
possibly we 
> > >> could put them into a separate message class, but this is getting to be 
a bit 
> > >> overkill, and previous user comments on this list were not too 
favorable to 
> > >> that idea.
> > >>
> > >> I have modified the messages to include the directory from which the 
> > >> filesystem change is not permitted, which gives the user a bit more 
> > >> information about what is going on.
> > >>
> > >> I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as 
I 
> > >> wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  
This 
> > >> will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger 
that the 
> > >> user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write 
some 
> > >> code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would 
like 
> > >> it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  
> > > 
> > > Another workaround is to list the mounted filesystems in an Exclude 
option.
> > > 
> > > __Martin
> > 
> > This doesn't work on 1.38.6 the messages are still printed.
> 
> That's strange, because (from the source) it looks like it should work from
> 1.35.6 onwards.  Maybe your Exclude syntax is wrong?

What I would worry about in using this technique is that if you are not 
careful, you could also exclude the *real* backup of those directories.

Personally, I cannot get excited about a few extra lines of output in the job 
report.  If someone *really* does not like them, just turn them off in the 
source, or pass the Job report output through a simple filter.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Simmons
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:27:18 -0700, Robert W Hartzell said:
> 
> Martin Simmons wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:08:28 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
> >> On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:33, Jo Rhett wrote:
>  On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
> It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean  
> that the
> filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
> >
> The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
> filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included  
> in the
> fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted  
> filesystem
> isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
> Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.
> >>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
>  Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be  
>  nice if
>  someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and  
>  backward" look
>  through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified  
>  directly
>  somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.
> >>> Or how about an option to disable these messages in the Message  
> >>> section?  Trust me when I say that we always backup all we care to.
> >>> I never want to see these messages (and have it fact disabled them  
> >>> for us by editing the source, which isn't all that portable).
> >> I am not much in favor of an option to disable these messages -- possibly 
> >> we 
> >> could put them into a separate message class, but this is getting to be a 
> >> bit 
> >> overkill, and previous user comments on this list were not too favorable 
> >> to 
> >> that idea.
> >>
> >> I have modified the messages to include the directory from which the 
> >> filesystem change is not permitted, which gives the user a bit more 
> >> information about what is going on.
> >>
> >> I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as I 
> >> wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  
> >> This 
> >> will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger that 
> >> the 
> >> user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write 
> >> some 
> >> code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would 
> >> like 
> >> it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  
> > 
> > Another workaround is to list the mounted filesystems in an Exclude option.
> > 
> > __Martin
> 
> This doesn't work on 1.38.6 the messages are still printed.

That's strange, because (from the source) it looks like it should work from
1.35.6 onwards.  Maybe your Exclude syntax is wrong?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-21 Thread Robert W Hartzell
Martin Simmons wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:08:28 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
>> On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:33, Jo Rhett wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
> It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean  
> that the
> filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
>
> The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
> filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included  
> in the
> fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted  
> filesystem
> isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
> Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.
>>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be  
 nice if
 someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and  
 backward" look
 through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified  
 directly
 somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.
>>> Or how about an option to disable these messages in the Message  
>>> section?  Trust me when I say that we always backup all we care to.
>>> I never want to see these messages (and have it fact disabled them  
>>> for us by editing the source, which isn't all that portable).
>> I am not much in favor of an option to disable these messages -- possibly we 
>> could put them into a separate message class, but this is getting to be a 
>> bit 
>> overkill, and previous user comments on this list were not too favorable to 
>> that idea.
>>
>> I have modified the messages to include the directory from which the 
>> filesystem change is not permitted, which gives the user a bit more 
>> information about what is going on.
>>
>> I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as I 
>> wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  
>> This 
>> will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger that the 
>> user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write some 
>> code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would like 
>> it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  
> 
> Another workaround is to list the mounted filesystems in an Exclude option.
> 
> __Martin

This doesn't work on 1.38.6 the messages are still printed.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-16 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 18:29, Martin Simmons wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:08:28 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
> > 
> > On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:33, Jo Rhett wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
> > > >> It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean  
> > > >> that the
> > > >> filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
> > > >>
> > > >> The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
> > > >> filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included  
> > > >> in the
> > > >> fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted  
> > > >> filesystem
> > > >> isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
> > > >> Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.
> > > 
> > > On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > > Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be  
> > > > nice if
> > > > someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and  
> > > > backward" look
> > > > through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified  
> > > > directly
> > > > somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.
> > > 
> > > Or how about an option to disable these messages in the Message  
> > > section?  Trust me when I say that we always backup all we care to.
> > > I never want to see these messages (and have it fact disabled them  
> > > for us by editing the source, which isn't all that portable).
> > 
> > I am not much in favor of an option to disable these messages -- possibly 
we 
> > could put them into a separate message class, but this is getting to be a 
bit 
> > overkill, and previous user comments on this list were not too favorable 
to 
> > that idea.
> > 
> > I have modified the messages to include the directory from which the 
> > filesystem change is not permitted, which gives the user a bit more 
> > information about what is going on.
> > 
> > I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as I 
> > wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  
This 
> > will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger that 
the 
> > user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write 
some 
> > code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would 
like 
> > it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  
> 
> Another workaround is to list the mounted filesystems in an Exclude option.

That's a very interesting solution :-)

> 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-16 Thread Martin Simmons
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:08:28 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
> 
> On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:33, Jo Rhett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
> > >> It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean  
> > >> that the
> > >> filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
> > >>
> > >> The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
> > >> filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included  
> > >> in the
> > >> fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted  
> > >> filesystem
> > >> isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
> > >> Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.
> > 
> > On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be  
> > > nice if
> > > someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and  
> > > backward" look
> > > through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified  
> > > directly
> > > somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.
> > 
> > Or how about an option to disable these messages in the Message  
> > section?  Trust me when I say that we always backup all we care to.
> > I never want to see these messages (and have it fact disabled them  
> > for us by editing the source, which isn't all that portable).
> 
> I am not much in favor of an option to disable these messages -- possibly we 
> could put them into a separate message class, but this is getting to be a bit 
> overkill, and previous user comments on this list were not too favorable to 
> that idea.
> 
> I have modified the messages to include the directory from which the 
> filesystem change is not permitted, which gives the user a bit more 
> information about what is going on.
> 
> I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as I 
> wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  This 
> will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger that the 
> user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write some 
> code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would like 
> it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  

Another workaround is to list the mounted filesystems in an Exclude option.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-16 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:33, Jo Rhett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
> >> It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean  
> >> that the
> >> filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
> >>
> >> The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
> >> filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included  
> >> in the
> >> fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted  
> >> filesystem
> >> isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
> >> Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.
> 
> On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be  
> > nice if
> > someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and  
> > backward" look
> > through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified  
> > directly
> > somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.
> 
> Or how about an option to disable these messages in the Message  
> section?  Trust me when I say that we always backup all we care to.
> I never want to see these messages (and have it fact disabled them  
> for us by editing the source, which isn't all that portable).

I am not much in favor of an option to disable these messages -- possibly we 
could put them into a separate message class, but this is getting to be a bit 
overkill, and previous user comments on this list were not too favorable to 
that idea.

I have modified the messages to include the directory from which the 
filesystem change is not permitted, which gives the user a bit more 
information about what is going on.

I think the simplest and best solution is to suppress these messages as I 
wrote above if they are in fact backed up somewhere else in the backup.  This 
will ensure that the messages are printed only if there is a danger that the 
user is missing a partition, but it will also require someone to write some 
code (well, any solution will).  If it bothers you enough and you would like 
it fixed, you might try coming up with this kind of code.  

> 
> -- 
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> senior geek
> Silicon Valley Colocation
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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-15 Thread Jo Rhett
> On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
>> It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean  
>> that the
>> filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
>>
>> The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
>> filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included  
>> in the
>> fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted  
>> filesystem
>> isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
>> Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.

On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be  
> nice if
> someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and  
> backward" look
> through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified  
> directly
> somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.

Or how about an option to disable these messages in the Message  
section?  Trust me when I say that we always backup all we care to.
I never want to see these messages (and have it fact disabled them  
for us by editing the source, which isn't all that portable).

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-15 Thread Steen
I have a question relating to this one:

Shannon:      Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /dev

Don't you need the (link) files in this directory in order to restore your 
system? Is it a problem to back it up?

I guess you also need boot?


On Tuesday 08 August 2006 16:47, Marco Strullato wrote:
> hi all,
> do you know why I get Filesystem change prohibited when I run bacula?
>
>
> 08-Aug 16:40 DirectorServer: Start Backup JobId 95,
> Job=BackupShannon.2006-08-08_16.39.58
> 08-Aug 16:40 StorageServer: Volume "centroservizi" previously written,
> moving to end of data.
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /sys
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /boot
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
> /statistiche Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend
> into /package Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend
> into /dev Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
> /mnt/backup
>
>
> definitions are:
> Job {
>   Name = "BackupShannon"
>   Client   = Shannon
>   JobDefs  = "BackupLinux"
>   Level= Full
>   Storage  = StorageServer
>   FileSet  = "LinuxFileSet"
>   Schedule = "WeeklyCycle"
>   Priority = 10
>   Type = Backup
>   Messages = Standard
> }
> Job {
>   Name = "RestoreShannon"
>   Type = Restore
>   Client   = Shannon
>   FileSet  = "LinuxFileSet"
>   Storage  = StorageServer
>   Pool = BackupPool
>   Messages = Standard
>   Where= /tmp/bacula-restores
> }
> JobDefs {
>  Name = "BackupLinux"
>  Type = Backup
>  Storage  = StorageServer
>  Level= Incremental
>  Schedule = "WeeklyCycle"
>  Messages = Standard
>  Pool = BackupPool
>  Priority = 10
> }
> FileSet {
>   Name = "LinuxFileSet"
>   Include {
> Options {
>   signature = MD5
>   compression = GZIP
> }
> File = /
>   }
>   Exclude {
> File = /proc
> File = /tmp
> File = /.journal
> File = /.fsck
>   }
> }
> Client {
>   Name = Shannon
>   Address  = shannon
>   FDPort   = 9102
>   Catalog  = MyCatalog
>   Password = "password"
> }
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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-14 Thread Alan Brown
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 Unfortunately it also doesn't backup the mountpoint as a directory, which
 makes restoration a bit messy at times.
>>>
>>> Bacula has backed up mount points for quite some time now, though I don't
>>> remember what version it was first implemented in.
>>
>> It's not doing it here Kern. Is there a flag which needs to be set?
>
> No. It just works automatically.
>

Strange. I will investigate further.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-14 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Monday 14 August 2006 11:29, Alan Brown wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> 
> >> Unfortunately it also doesn't backup the mountpoint as a directory, which
> >> makes restoration a bit messy at times.
> >
> > Bacula has backed up mount points for quite some time now, though I don't
> > remember what version it was first implemented in.
> 
> It's not doing it here Kern. Is there a flag which needs to be set?

No. It just works automatically.

> 
> 1.39.11
> 
> AB
> 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-14 Thread Alan Brown
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote:

>> Unfortunately it also doesn't backup the mountpoint as a directory, which
>> makes restoration a bit messy at times.
>
> Bacula has backed up mount points for quite some time now, though I don't
> remember what version it was first implemented in.

It's not doing it here Kern. Is there a flag which needs to be set?

1.39.11

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:29, Timo Neuvonen wrote:
> > Marco Strullato wrote:
> > > hi all,
> > > do you know why I get Filesystem change prohibited when I run bacula?
> > >
> > >
> > > 08-Aug 16:40 DirectorServer: Start Backup JobId 95,
> > > Job=BackupShannon.2006-08-08_16.39.58
> > > 08-Aug 16:40 StorageServer: Volume "centroservizi" previously written,
> > > moving to end of data.
> > > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /sys
> > > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /boot
> > > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
> /statistiche
> > > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
> /package
> > > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /dev
> > > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
> /mnt/backup
> >
> > Those are mounted filesystems. Bacula will not descend into mounted
> > filesystems unless you specifically tell it to. (This is safer as there
> > might be data mounted over the network, or virtual filesystems that you
> > don't want the backup to grab.)
> >
> > You either have to manually specify all mount points to back up to make
> > it descend into them, or use the onefs option in the FileSet (again, be
> >
> 
> It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean that the
> filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.
> 
> The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
> filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included in the
> fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted filesystem
> isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
> Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.

Well the messages are there to warn the unwarry, but it would be nice if 
someone would submit the code necessary to do a "forward and backward" look 
through the filesets to see if the filesystem has been specified directly 
somewhere else so that the message could be suppressed.

> 
> 
> Regards,
> Timo
> 
> 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 18:13, Alan Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Michel Meyers wrote:
> 
> > Those are mounted filesystems. Bacula will not descend into mounted
> > filesystems unless you specifically tell it to.
> 
> Unfortunately it also doesn't backup the mountpoint as a directory, which 
> makes restoration a bit messy at times.

Bacula has backed up mount points for quite some time now, though I don't 
remember what version it was first implemented in.

> 
> AB
> 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-08 Thread Timo Neuvonen
> Marco Strullato wrote:
> > hi all,
> > do you know why I get Filesystem change prohibited when I run bacula?
> >
> >
> > 08-Aug 16:40 DirectorServer: Start Backup JobId 95,
> > Job=BackupShannon.2006-08-08_16.39.58
> > 08-Aug 16:40 StorageServer: Volume "centroservizi" previously written,
> > moving to end of data.
> > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /sys
> > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /boot
> > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
/statistiche
> > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
/package
> > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /dev
> > Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into
/mnt/backup
>
> Those are mounted filesystems. Bacula will not descend into mounted
> filesystems unless you specifically tell it to. (This is safer as there
> might be data mounted over the network, or virtual filesystems that you
> don't want the backup to grab.)
>
> You either have to manually specify all mount points to back up to make
> it descend into them, or use the onefs option in the FileSet (again, be
>

It's worth noting, that the messages above don't necessarily mean that the
filesystem mentioned wouln't be backed up at all.

The message is generated, when a mounted filesystem is met, but the
filesystem may be backed up anyway if it is specifically included in the
fileset configuration. The message just means, that the mounted filesystem
isn't backed up as a part of the parent directory's backup.
Personally, I find this a little bit annoying.


Regards,
Timo



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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-08 Thread Martin Simmons
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:13:22 +0100 (BST), Alan Brown said:
> 
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Michel Meyers wrote:
> 
> > Those are mounted filesystems. Bacula will not descend into mounted
> > filesystems unless you specifically tell it to.
> 
> Unfortunately it also doesn't backup the mountpoint as a directory, which 
> makes restoration a bit messy at times.

Is that still true?  I thought it had been fixed long ago.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Brown
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Michel Meyers wrote:

> Those are mounted filesystems. Bacula will not descend into mounted
> filesystems unless you specifically tell it to.

Unfortunately it also doesn't backup the mountpoint as a directory, which 
makes restoration a bit messy at times.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-08 Thread R.I. Pienaar
>From the bacula manual:

onefs=yes|no
If set to yes (the default), Bacula will remain on a single file
system. That is it will not backup file systems that are mounted on a
subdirectory. If you are using a *nix system, you may not even be
aware that there are several different filesystems as they are often
automatically mounted by the OS (e.g. /dev, /net, /sys, /proc, ...).
With Bacula 1.38.0 or later, it will inform you when it decides not to
traverse into another filesystem. This can be very useful if you
forgot to backup a particular partition. An example of the
informational message in the job report is:

so add to your FileSet's onefs=no

On 08/08/06, Marco Strullato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi all,
> do you know why I get Filesystem change prohibited when I run bacula?
>
>
> 08-Aug 16:40 DirectorServer: Start Backup JobId 95,
> Job=BackupShannon.2006-08-08_16.39.58
> 08-Aug 16:40 StorageServer: Volume "centroservizi" previously written,
> moving to end of data.
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /sys
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /boot
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /statistiche
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /package
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /dev
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /mnt/backup
>
>
> definitions are:
> Job {
>   Name = "BackupShannon"
>   Client   = Shannon
>   JobDefs  = "BackupLinux"
>   Level= Full
>   Storage  = StorageServer
>   FileSet  = "LinuxFileSet"
>   Schedule = "WeeklyCycle"
>   Priority = 10
>   Type = Backup
>   Messages = Standard
> }
> Job {
>   Name = "RestoreShannon"
>   Type = Restore
>   Client   = Shannon
>   FileSet  = "LinuxFileSet"
>   Storage  = StorageServer
>   Pool = BackupPool
>   Messages = Standard
>   Where= /tmp/bacula-restores
> }
> JobDefs {
>  Name = "BackupLinux"
>  Type = Backup
>  Storage  = StorageServer
>  Level= Incremental
>  Schedule = "WeeklyCycle"
>  Messages = Standard
>  Pool = BackupPool
>  Priority = 10
> }
> FileSet {
>   Name = "LinuxFileSet"
>   Include {
> Options {
>   signature = MD5
>   compression = GZIP
> }
> File = /
>   }
>   Exclude {
> File = /proc
> File = /tmp
> File = /.journal
> File = /.fsck
>   }
> }
> Client {
>   Name = Shannon
>   Address  = shannon
>   FDPort   = 9102
>   Catalog  = MyCatalog
>   Password = "password"
> }
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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-08 Thread Bill Moran
In response to "Marco Strullato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> hi all,
> do you know why I get Filesystem change prohibited when I run bacula?
> 
> 
> 08-Aug 16:40 DirectorServer: Start Backup JobId 95,
> Job=BackupShannon.2006-08-08_16.39.58
> 08-Aug 16:40 StorageServer: Volume "centroservizi" previously written,
> moving to end of data.
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /sys

[snip]

Look up "onefs" in the online manual.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-08 Thread Michel Meyers
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Marco Strullato wrote:
> hi all,
> do you know why I get Filesystem change prohibited when I run bacula?
>
>
> 08-Aug 16:40 DirectorServer: Start Backup JobId 95,
> Job=BackupShannon.2006-08-08_16.39.58
> 08-Aug 16:40 StorageServer: Volume "centroservizi" previously written,
> moving to end of data.
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /sys
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /boot
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /statistiche
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /package
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /dev
> Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /mnt/backup

Those are mounted filesystems. Bacula will not descend into mounted
filesystems unless you specifically tell it to. (This is safer as there
might be data mounted over the network, or virtual filesystems that you
don't want the backup to grab.)

You either have to manually specify all mount points to back up to make
it descend into them, or use the onefs option in the FileSet (again, be
careful not to accidentally include something you don't want backed up).

Greetings,
Michel
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[Bacula-users] Filesystem change prohibited. why?

2006-08-08 Thread Marco Strullato
hi all,
do you know why I get Filesystem change prohibited when I run bacula?


08-Aug 16:40 DirectorServer: Start Backup JobId 95,
Job=BackupShannon.2006-08-08_16.39.58
08-Aug 16:40 StorageServer: Volume "centroservizi" previously written,
moving to end of data.
Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /sys
Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /boot
Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /statistiche
Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /package
Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /dev
Shannon:  Filesystem change prohibited. Will not descend into /mnt/backup


definitions are:
Job {
  Name = "BackupShannon"
  Client   = Shannon
  JobDefs  = "BackupLinux"
  Level= Full
  Storage  = StorageServer
  FileSet  = "LinuxFileSet"
  Schedule = "WeeklyCycle"
  Priority = 10
  Type = Backup
  Messages = Standard
}
Job {
  Name = "RestoreShannon"
  Type = Restore
  Client   = Shannon
  FileSet  = "LinuxFileSet"
  Storage  = StorageServer
  Pool = BackupPool
  Messages = Standard
  Where= /tmp/bacula-restores
}
JobDefs {
 Name = "BackupLinux"
 Type = Backup
 Storage  = StorageServer
 Level= Incremental
 Schedule = "WeeklyCycle"
 Messages = Standard
 Pool = BackupPool
 Priority = 10
}
FileSet {
  Name = "LinuxFileSet"
  Include {
Options {
  signature = MD5
  compression = GZIP
}
File = /
  }
  Exclude {
File = /proc
File = /tmp
File = /.journal
File = /.fsck
  }
}
Client {
  Name = Shannon
  Address  = shannon
  FDPort   = 9102
  Catalog  = MyCatalog
  Password = "password"
}

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