Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
I might have a couple of good pictures soon that would help with this, can I email them to you. (thats if i can get them scanned in properly) Lloyd - If you don't mind, let's get these posted to the web. I'm happy to publish them for you, if you don't have your own means. If you need to have them scanned, you can mail them to me also to do that. (For heaven's sake, though, send me copies you don't need returned!) This is the sort of thing that we need to get 'up and out there.' I'm also looking for chromas and what not of radionically managed food crops thanks, Allan
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
Hi James and B.D.Now friends, The possum pepper I was talking about was not potentised but mixed very dilutely into sand that passed through a 7mm. screen at the rate of 110gr. / 7tonne batch. It was prepared by a concrete mixing firm. In giving these measurements please do not take it as my recomendation of the ideal. It is just what we did at the time. Some of this material that was left over from the aerial drop was what Gary Blake took home. As his property was reasonably trapped out I suggested to him to work around his boundary throwing a handfull each way every twenty meters or so. According to someone poisening possums by bait station the possums would not touch the two stations clossest to the boundary. I have no exact data on how far apart these stations are set but it was suggested to me that they were about 100m. apart. In the 70's when I first started potentising horn manure and spreading it in the back garden I noticed that the spray would not radiate into areas not covered by the spray. It had been my observation that Horn manure stired for an hour would radiate about 1m. in three days. If a teaspoon of compost prep is innoculated into a flat paddock it will radiate several hundred meters and when I treated about 110 acres like this which was approximately half the grazing round there was a noticable difference to the milk volume and the cows manure in the yard. It appears to me that the more we process prep material the less it radiates. In heaps that are raised up above the general ground level I have observed that the preparations do not leave the heap. So what happens when we prep. manure that is below the level of the ground? When broadcasting from a pipe or tree one can ask that the broadcast be to a certain fence line and 95% of the time the affected area stops directly under the wire. Much more accurate than with a map. Saves paper too!! I haven't had any experince with card preps or electonic potencies so I can't talk about them. Best wishes, Peter. Dear Lloyd, The idea that potentised preps stay put as proposed by Glen does not agree with my understanding and use of radionically prepared substances. It would appear you are indentifying an essential difference between Potentised and radionic preps - all the more reason to be clear in their naming when discussing them. By their very nature of application I would expect radionic preps to radiate. re potentised preps radiation , please inspect the pictures on my website, especially the Kale trials, where three plants, side by side, from the same punnet have been sprayed differently with 3 different outcomes. When I first began using pot. preps and spread them with a brush I had green strips across the lawn, which did not even out. (This was done 12 years ago and similiar results have occurred since) This was the first hint. I recently did trials on coriander, very close together which have shown the same effect. We also have on video -CD available- the results of some spring spraying where there is a distinct line in the paddock between the sprayed and unsprayed areas. One is dairy pasture the other is all off to seed. No diffused area whatsover. The results and pictures speak for themselves. What is your explanation if you do not accept these pictures proposal? If radionic preps stayed put you would not be able to use a small amount in your BC and expect it to permeate through the whole mix. It would just be a few drops scattered amongst the compost. if there was not a radiational effect Glen would not be able to claim that his possum retardant can be mixed into sand and a handful thrown out every 20 metres or so. The story above is from Peter Bacchus who was spreading unpotentised possum ash. Which no doubt has a radiation effect. Over the last 10 months I have been spraying pot. possum preps , not peppers, and it is obvious from the possum trails leading into and out of the tree on the edge of the sprayed area, that traffic in is normal from two directions - as seen in tracks thru long grass- however the track to the house from the tree was difficult to see, hence little to no use. Sadly I did not video this before the grass was eaten off. Supposing that you were to dilute a litre of preps from Glen, in whatever amount of water that he suggests, if the homoeopathic preps had no radiational effect on the rest of the water why would you dilute it. Is the water just a carrier or does something happen to the water. It seems to me that the memory pattern from the potentised preps permeates the medium through osmosis. Yes the water is acting as a carrier of the potentised preps. It is mixing with and being carried by, no doubt there is some combining into the memory function of the water. Where it carries it to though, is were it stays. Thus we suggest fine sprays over the area to be treated. with regards potentised weed
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My expectation is that with improving the genetics for production that the health factors receive less attention so good health in organic situations is even more meaningful. Since writing yesterday I have herd that Hella Bauer Eden has done such a thesis. I will post a link or address if there is one next week. To get juice out of grass many consultants here have some small plates welded into the jaws of a pair of vicegrips. These put quite a pressure on the herbage and work quite well on green grass. When only sugar provides the sweetness the meal is not satisfying or leaves one hungry. If there is a good measure of protein then there is a fullness to the flavour and one feels satisfied and nourised and does not get hungry again after an hour or two. Peter.
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Re: water as information
The smallest entity evokes the greatest change. Adding a small amount of bd remedy to water and stirring. Think of the gathering of the plant material, the sheath material, all the focus and intent, the intensity of the wll forces to carry this out. Adding this substance to the water, stirring for the allocated time and applied to the farm, How does it evoke such great change in the physical properties of the soil. It is through the memory of water and it malleability...sstorch
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Re: UPDATE ON HUGH IN OZ?
Hugh, I have not heard of anyone being injured with a cloudbuster, maybe you are confusing them with Reich's orgone accumulator which were dangerous. The worst I have heard of in relation to cloudbusters is a possible headache if touched, and even that we do not experience with the two I have built. Cloudbusters are orgone generators, keeps the energy flowing. They do open holes in the chemtrails when spewing is going on, they do attract moisture when in the area, they can divert and temper the wind, I have yet to experience anything negative with their use. Two years ago our total rainfall amounted to 3 1/2" in an area that only has 9 1/2" average anyway. Last year we had here at our place 10" measured and this year around 3" to date. I see only positive results with their use. Dwayne<[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online
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Thanks for that Steve! Do you use your flowforms to mix preps? Is there an electric pump? Thanks, Jane
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
Dear Lloyd, I agree with your sentiments about intent being a factor in Radionics, however it is not solely what makes radionics work. In NZ they are having great results with patients who have mental afflictions by getting them to write out an affirmation and putting it into the instrument and broadcasting it to them. That does not mean that it is the intent that drove the instrument, because, if we repeat an affirmation without an instrument it will work just as well. The radionic instrument enables the focus of the interference pattern that is being broadcast to the witness, regardless of wherever it may be. In experimental work my aim is just to see what will happen purely by putting a certain action into movement and see what happens. Experimentation requires that you get out of your own way and not try to pre determine the results. The work needs to be systematic and follow a pattern of analysis, diagnosis of why the problem is there, then we can approach how to treat the problem. To try to put the action of a radionic instrument as being just down to intent, or any homeopathic remedy, is an attempt to simplify what is a very complex interaction of forces. Ruth Drown trained all trainees to not try and second guess what you think the answer will be. What seems to be more important than intent is the state of mind of the operator. If Glen had malevolent thoughts for whatever reason about Joe Bloggs, who he was making a remedy for, thenhis thoughts would be transferred to the remedy and spread out through Joe Blogg's farm. When doing any of this type of work, if your intent when making the remedy is to kill those little pests of insects or animals, you will find that the energy will come back to you. The mind needs to be as clear as possible. Dr David Perle, in a lecture on radionics in 1935, stressed the first step in radionics is that it is necessary to become as thoroughly familiar, and as thoroughly in tune as possible with the theory and philosophy behind it. That is one cannot think of yesterday and do the work of today. We must be in harmony with this system of tuning in to the Infinite. On the basis of trying to understand the theory if we are merely carrying out routine procedure, not thinking right, or not knowing why we are taking a particular course, we will not get as good effects as if we understand the theory and philosophy behind what we do. I see radionics as a tool for spiritual growth in much the same way as Joey Korn saw dowsing. If we aspire to become creators the source of our energy is the Infinite.Working with radionics inspires great awe within me for the intelligent creation of the Universes and the spiritual beings who guide me though this incarnation.. To have the power to influence the actions of others, whether it is to bring into effect a healing reaction in a patient, or to hold the power of life or death over an insect , a person or an animal through your actions is to step into a different level of spiritual awareness of the implications of our actions. Kind regards to you and your family. I hope to be able to catch up with you at the workshop in Young. James - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. Dear Lloyd, The idea that potentised preps stay put as proposed by Glen does not agree with my understanding and use of radionically prepared substances. If radionic preps stayed put you would not be able to use a small amount in your BC and expect it to permeate through the whole mix. It would just be a few drops scattered amongst the compost. if there was not a radiational effect Glen would not be able to claim that his possum retardant can be mixed into sand and a handful thrown out every 20 metres or so. To say that there is not a radiational effect from the use of radionically prepared substances implies that somehow different laws apply to radionics than apply to the rest of the natural world. It is difficult to isolate a trial area, as you have commented, but not impossible. One method used by Bruce Copen to define the area for a radionic broadcast trial was to mark off the area to be tested with 4 copper rods sticking out of the ground to a height of 1 metre and then take soil or leaf samples from this area as a witness. The radionic broadcast then confines to the marked area. Hi James I dont disagree with what you wrote but does this all maybe come back to intent . If Glens underlying intent when potentising his remedies was that they would only treat where they were sprayed then I believe that is what would happen, and if you believe or intend that what
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
Dear lloyd, Thank you for your very well thought out reply. It is getting late tonight so will try to reply within the next few days. Kind regards, James - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:24 AM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Vitality and fertility ofsoils Dear Lloyd, Steve and fellow list members, In Bruce Copen's Agricultural rates there are the rates for soil testing with Carey Reams techniques. Amongst these rates is one for testing the vitality of the soil. Vitality of the soil seems to not get coverage on BDnow. Maybe one of the reasons is that until I started to research this concept I had never heard of vitality as being measurable parameter of soil. I write this in the hope that some of you who have experience of Reams techniques may be able to enlighten me, or head me in the direction of further areas of study of his methods. Lloyd knows our property, red basalt soil, 3200 cgs on average, averages 6% organic matter, high mineralisation and a dream soil for anyone to start with. There is only one problem, when you test the soils in our cultivation paddocks radionically it gives a reading of about 10% vitality, and the same for fertility. My definition for fertility is the ability of plants grown to reproduce true to type with maximum viability, which is a true reflection of the fertility of the soil. In other words they need to have inbuilt vitality and an inbuilt toughness. Hi James Some of the followers of Carey Reams ideas would tell you that those really good soils like yours are often very difficult to manage when they get out of shape, they are strongly fertile and highly buffered and they resist our efforts to change them in whatever direction we are meaning to move. They can be exploitatively farmed for a long period but then restoration takes equally long, trace element imbalances that dont appear that serious can take a lot of effort to correct etc. When we look at the bush in your area there is a marked lack of diversity compared to poorer soil types nearby, this is something we see all over Australia, in the most fertile soil areas the natural vegetation appears as almost a mono culture (the mitchell grass plains or the riverina floodplain covered with redgum) whereas in the poorest soil types there is an unbeleivable diversity of species (west australias sand plain country or the pilliga for example) maybe this lack of diversity in the original vegetation also supports a restricted microbial species range that makes it difficult to grow some introduced crop plants even with the high mineral fertility that is there? My question is what is vitality and what enlivens it in the soil. James when we get that figured out we will be able to retire on the proceeds. Seriously though I have a couple more questions to add When we test radionically for GV just what are we measuring? And (this one has been rattling around my head for quite a while) Is it really the best thing to treat a crop or seed or whatever so that we wind the GV reading up to the absolute maximum we can get? I guess I am thinking about balance - can we have too much vitality and not enough substance? See I have this picture of a fine bred arab horse that will run until it dies in mid stride - the vitality of spirit is far in excess of its physical ability. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Electronic homeopathy for plants. Was Re: late winter farm
Dear Gil, I don't know how you have had a problem getting the two Copen Agriculture booklets, however I was able to get a copy of each. The information from the two books has opened a whole new range of possibilities. No I don't have a Copen instrument, mine is from Altered States in NZ, it only has 9 dials however I am now at the stage that I would like to make my own instrument as some analysis winds up with more numbers in the rates than I can get with a 9 dial Base 10, especially with insects. Call it the next stage of the education of James. Any specifications or diagrams that you may be able to help with would be appreciated. Contact me off list and we will see what can be worked out. Sorry to hear that you are not in good health. maybe we could discuss it off list. I wish you a speedy recovery from your health problems. Kindest regards James - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Electronic homeopathy for plants. Was Re: late winter farm Hi! James and Lloyd, I am out of action at the moment with health probs. But picked up on your post concerning Copen's Agricultural methods. Did you start with the rates in his Ag Rate Book? I was going to buy it several years ago, but now they seem to have with-drawn it from all their sites. I have emailed both the US and German offices and neither replied. So I do not know if they have some issue with it. Do you have a copy of it? Do you have any of his instruments? I have a Mark 2 A. This is one of the fifteen knob ones, with all sorts of additional posibilities that I have never got to trying. All up it has twenty four knobs and four switches. I bought in a collection of intruments and intended to possibly use it with his Ag Rates, but do not have the book, nor have been able to buy it. If you need something made up that requires more knobs than you have, I can do it if required. Gil James Hedley wrote: Bruce Copen from Copen Instruments developed a fertiliser which was prepared radionically which he called Cosmo. it is a mixture of homeopathic Schussler tissue salts, radionically prepared BD preps, a substance called Agrospon which feeds bacteria and other microbes plus a couple of other remedies such as Lachesis ( a great anti viral ) and Lycopodium (to strengthen the archetype of the plant). I have been broadcasting this out during the drought as well as Copen's Nutritional spray # 5. Each of these have been broadcast for 24 hours at least once a fortnight since last spring when I realised that we were moving into severe drought..
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
Dear glen, Thanks for your reply. I don't think that I will take this point further until I see your web page. Wont be able to get to it for a few days as I have a workshop on this weekend. Will resume discussion sometime next week. Go well James - Original Message - From: Garuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. Dear Lloyd, The idea that potentised preps stay put as proposed by Glen does not agree with my understanding and use of radionically prepared substances. It would appear you are indentifying an essential difference between Potentised and radionic preps - all the more reason to be clear in their naming when discussing them. By their very nature of application I would expect radionic preps to radiate. re potentised preps radiation , please inspect the pictures on my website, especially the Kale trials, where three plants, side by side, from the same punnet have been sprayed differently with 3 different outcomes. When I first began using pot. preps and spread them with a brush I had green strips across the lawn, which did not even out. (This was done 12 years ago and similiar results have occurred since) This was the first hint. I recently did trials on coriander, very close together which have shown the same effect. We also have on video -CD available- the results of some spring spraying where there is a distinct line in the paddock between the sprayed and unsprayed areas. One is dairy pasture the other is all off to seed. No diffused area whatsover. The results and pictures speak for themselves. What is your explanation if you do not accept these pictures proposal? If radionic preps stayed put you would not be able to use a small amount in your BC and expect it to permeate through the whole mix. It would just be a few drops scattered amongst the compost. if there was not a radiational effect Glen would not be able to claim that his possum retardant can be mixed into sand and a handful thrown out every 20 metres or so. The story above is from Peter Bacchus who was spreading unpotentised possum ash. Which no doubt has a radiation effect. Over the last 10 months I have been spraying pot. possum preps , not peppers, and it is obvious from the possum trails leading into and out of the tree on the edge of the sprayed area, that traffic in is normal from two directions - as seen in tracks thru long grass- however the track to the house from the tree was difficult to see, hence little to no use. Sadly I did not video this before the grass was eaten off. Supposing that you were to dilute a litre of preps from Glen, in whatever amount of water that he suggests, if the homoeopathic preps had no radiational effect on the rest of the water why would you dilute it. Is the water just a carrier or does something happen to the water. It seems to me that the memory pattern from the potentised preps permeates the medium through osmosis. Yes the water is acting as a carrier of the potentised preps. It is mixing with and being carried by, no doubt there is some combining into the memory function of the water. Where it carries it to though, is were it stays. Thus we suggest fine sprays over the area to be treated. with regards potentised weed peppers, many people make these and they are sprayed around with a fine spray usually. Peter has a dairy farming client who did Ragwort last year with some pretty amazing results. Maybe he can tell us more about this with regards to seed germination? regards Glen A
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
Dear Glen, What was the qualitative difference between the radionically potentised preparations and the hand succussing? It would be hard to put it up as a valid test if both doses were not derived from the same substance. One batch of preps could vary very markedly from those prepared at a different time. Were the symptom pictures the same at both times? You may be right that your manually potentised preps are better than radionically prepared preps, but somehow it is important to compare apples with apples and that it is the same parameters that are being tested. An agronomist friend of mine claims that before you can visually see a difference in a pasture there would have to be at least 25% difference to be able to see it. I have looked at the problem of chromas as a measurement indicator, however much of the skill with this type of qualitative analysis is in the evaluation. Different viewers will put different interpretations on the chromas. Quality such as that one substance was better than another cannot be ascertained without first setting the parameters that indicate quality. Could we do it by comparison of Brix levels, and would that be an overall comparison of quality? The problems of how to set up an experiment so the results can be considered valid are a biometricians nightmare. A trial could never be considered conclusive if it was based only on one experiment on one plant. Maybe what is needed is the same sort of dedication shown by Lili Kolisko or Maria Thun of trying to test for the effects of substance and forces. that would require the financial support of those who have the most to gain.Would the New Zealand Biodynamic Association be prepared to support you in a long term evaluation project. It may even be better to take your ideas out to conventional farmers who have a need for your expertise. This is the century of the ECO Age as my friend Liz Davis calls it. Companies are looking for solutions to problems. For instance how much would Cotton Australia support research into non toxic weed control. How much would Simplot support you if you could show them how your techniques could stop spoiling on their potatoes, or increase yields? If you can show that your techniques work it could help McDonalds with their new direction of trying to source more clean green food. They have a huge war chest that is there to support the push for a new image for big Mac's. How can the BD industry help them to achieve their goals?It is just not a case of getting people to buy BD food, or to farm biodynamically. You have to be in the right market at the right time. The concept of radionics will be far easier to sell than hand succussed preps because it has an economic advantage and fits more into the culture of the day. We have moved into the era of the air, with electricity, TV, radio and electronics. Radionics is in the right market at the right time. People accept radionics. Just look at how many paying customers turn up for an Arden Andersen, Phillip Wheeler or Hugh Lovel workshop. Try getting those numbers to a BD workshop. After all our experimenting for the next 50 years to try and statistically prove that biodynamic food is qualitively better we would still have lost the opportunity. There has already been 80 years of research into biodynamics without inroads into the mainstream. BD has never been marketed from an emotional perspective. Steve Diver summed up the whole marketing approach for our techniques which is to appeal to the emotions. The opportunity is in the moment NOW. Give the people what they desire most and they will beat a path to your door. Kind regards James - Original Message - From: Garuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. # Glen - When you say potentised preps is that specifically potentised by dilution and sucussion? Yes prepared physically by hand. I can not really help you with radionically applied either by spray or device, and their effect, as I have not had alot of experience of them. The few tests I have done with my physically potentised preps and radionic versions - via square box- of the same, produced very different results in me when I have taken them. The radionic preps effect was minimal compared to the physical pot prep. I need to do more trials on this before I am convinced Radionic preps and potentised preps are the same thing. Can someone provide some picture evidence of the effect on plants re radionic preps verses control please, ala those on my website / Case Studies? cheers GA # When I talk of radionically prepared preps I mean things that are potentised by instrument but are then applied by spraying out onto a target . I have assumed that both of the above stay where you put them and was hoping that your work would support that assumption in both cases. (this has important implications for how we
Re: NOW: I'm looking for Articles on CSA
btw the BIONEERS site has great links on it. Most of all, it's reminder of how many great articles are published through ACRES USA, but there are a lot of other links there, also. Thanks for thinking of your neighbors, Pat! ;-)
Re: delaying budbreak with FB
Dear Laura, There is a lot of potential for fine tuning by using tandem sprays of the BD preps. It's another job to do, but with a radionic instrument you might just fill up the sprayer with water and give it a homeopathic radionic treatment of a BD potency and then spray. What I would try for holding back the sap is an evening spray of the oak bark (505) spray followed in tandem with a morning spray of horsetail (508). This holds back watery growth, so it also is a good combination for preventing fungus and blights. Best, Hugh Lovel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: delaying budbreak with FB Hi Laura Did you have any success with your broadcaster - slowing the vines down? Hugh and all other FB users this is my first season with my FB from Hugh. We had an unusually warm winter and still warmer spring (30 C yesterday) with lots of rain fall. The result is that my grapevines are hurdling towards budbreak much faster than I can prune. I am looking for advise on how to slow them down, hold the sap back ... ? I had a look at your website recently and recommend it to all (especially newcomers to BD) - I have read and heard a lot about the plant 'gestures' associated with BD - in Alex Podolinskys books,-also Allan Balliet said about his own home garden plants 'standing to attention' for weeks after spraying preps, Hugh Lovel and others have said similar things, all over my head until I SAW IT in your pictures of the vines - particularly the picture of the red variety in the 'a little about Biodynamics', this is a classic case of 'a picture worth a thousand words'. We have a lot of wine grapes near us so I am used to the look of commercial chemical nutrition vines - yours sure are different - I also observed this growth pattern at the Castagna vineyard at Beechworth in NE Victoria (they farm Biodynamic) - then went on to an organic vineyard where I am helping install a broadcaster pipe and it was totally absent - these people have been doing some BD but are in the process of falling off the (Podolinsky regulated) cart, and have slipped back to organic management, their vines have a similar growth habit as chemical farmed ones do. Anyway thanks for putting the link to your site on BDnow for us to see. Cheers Lloyd Charles Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
I forwarded some of your posts on this thread to JP who is not on the list, but this was his reply to me: A lot of work has been done on the issue of vitality at The Louis Bolk institute, and they developed parameters through the use of chromatograms and crystalizations. It seems like a new frontier to be developed. JS
Re: UPDATE ON HUGH IN OZ?
In a message dated 3/13/03 8:04:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not heard of anyone being injured with a cloudbuster, maybe you are confusing them with Reich's orgone accumulator which were dangerous. The worst I have heard of in relation to cloudbusters is a possible headache if touched, and even that we do not experience with the two I have built. Cloudbusters are orgone generators, keeps the energy flowing It was my impression that cloudbusters are also orgone accumulators. I just recieved my material from Demeo for buikding an accumulator. I have material for three. I intend to build a jacket for the stirring machine... can't wait to see the results... It is my undersanding that there is much to do with biodynamics and orgone as well as ormus or monotomic elements. Microscopic observation of the bd remedies shows the bluish bions that Riech observed in his experiments, also in the compost teas that are brewed via the preps... more work needs to be done in this area SStorch
Re: It's a Beautiful Day, streaming along
Glad to hear the slide show comes across even at slow speeds. The girl is in our meditation group. The flower is Datura, the perennial kind. I tried the annual daturas as well, and they dropped seed. I will never plant annual datura again, it is no wonder they are so weedy on manure piles; they are prolific. The two flower beds are both weed-barrier gardens. The girl is standing next to a roadside flower bed that is 100' x 10', all done on weed barrier, alongside a rural road about 15 miles outside of town, with no irrigation. It had hydrogel underneath the weed barrier, it relied on selection of plants adapted to low-maintenance, and it relied on rainfall. Perennials are the most important component, but the annuals are also important. I learned a great deal from working with plants and seeds on this bed for 5 years, then I took it out because an electric fence for sheep pasture was installed right across the bed. It was installed as a demonstration of the weed barrier + hydrogel method, and to experiment with plants and permaculture design. The roadside flower bed as a weed-barrier garden literally appeared to me in a day dream, along with this poem: The beauty of the Earth, Fills my eyes, With a pounding heart, My spirit soars The other weed barrier is in a yard, so it was designed differently. It has wood chips as a pathway that curves through the 15' x 60' bed. Thus, you create planting beds by sculpting wood chip pathways; the exposed weed barrier thus creates a bed. This flower garden is still in use and the owner, a lady friend, loves it. Steve Diver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Picked it up great! Even on my very slow internet connect speed (24000bps) Who is the girl in the purple skirt, and is that Angel Trumpet she's pointing at? The flowforms are gorgeous and so is the rest of the photography. thanks for sharing Martha Wells~Flylo Farms~ Texas Zone 8
OT:Learning from the enemy (was Organic food)
...I worked at a petro-chem plant. (So, sue me, I learned a lot there)... Martha - I'll support you: even more than a billion years ago, I worked in a lab that used animals. I didn't do anything that I specifically regret, although I now believe that it was an unnecessary waste of life. However, in arguing against animal experimentation, I am able to be a lot more accurate than many anti-vivisectionists.Tony N-S. _ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk
New- Europe Gets Innovative about Farm Subsidies
Corner PostFarm Countryside Commentary by Elbert van DonkersgoedMarch 7, 2003When British and French farmers agree on an issue, it's worth investigating.Back in January the European Commission published its latest proposal forreforms of the European Union's Common Agricultural Policy. These latestproposals clearly cut farm production subsidies.French farmers were the first to forcefully reject the plan. France profitsmore from farm production subsidies than any other European Union country.British farmers declared that the new policy does not fit in the UnitedKingdom. They too reject the reduction in production subsidies but focustheir criticism on the proposal to reduce the aid payments according to farmsize. Larger farms face bigger percentage cuts, and the UK's farm size ismuch bigger than most of Europe.But this latest plan for reform, which "happens" to cut productionsubsidies, has a much bigger agenda.The most significant goal is a simplified, efficient administration by theEuropean Commission of what all the member states do in the name of theCommon Agricultural Policy.The reform proposes a single farm payment, independent of production andbased on the average of whatever subsidies a farm received during theprevious three years. No lengthy application forms backed by proof fromsatellite imagery and animal passports to show how much land is inproduction or how many animals are kept. Just a single farm income payment.Easy administration.A second innovation is just as dramatic. It is a response to thelong-standing criticism of the Common Agricultural Policy: that productionsubsidies divide farmers from their markets, suppress innovation, anddestroy economic and environmental value.The new payments will be linked to respect for the environment, food safety,occupational safety and countryside stewardship. As long as a farmer keepshis land in agricultural condition, the farmer will continue to receive thesingle farm payment, irrespective of the amount of food produced. Farmerswho deliver an attractive, healthy countryside will be rewarded, making theenvironment a selling point, not a sore point, for the sector.The rationale for this major shift in European farm policy has been buildingfor a decade. Production subsidies paid to farmers under the CommonAgricultural Policy are now seen as part of the problem rather than thesolution. A new guiding principle has emerged: use public money to pay forpublic goods that the public wants and needs.This is an innovative approach to agricultural subsidies. Will Europe'senvironment benefit? No doubt. I am skeptical, however, of the claims byEuropean politicians that their new approach will reduce over-production.Total subsidies for European agriculture and the countryside are notdeclining. Farmers, with their ingenuity and entrepreneurship, should not beunderestimated.
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
Lloyd Trials we have done with our preparations have shown that 250mls per hectare is about the lowest amount I would suggest you apply for 1:10 hand potentised preps. More is probably OK for most circumstances, however less is definitely not suggested - by me anyway. Tests are good Glen A - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. Hi Glen Thanks for the reply # Glen - When you say potentised preps is that specifically potentised by dilution and sucussion? Yes prepared physically by hand. I still have a lot of my chemical farmer mentality hanging around in the background - if I made -say - a weed pepper hand potentised how much quantity of it would I need to put into my 1300litre spray tank to cover 26 hectares? Cheryl tells me 10 drops is enough and while in theory I can say she may be right, I have a mental problem with ten drops. I can not really help you with radionically applied either by spray or device, and their effect, as I have not had alot of experience of them. Looks like I need to trial this at home. Can someone provide some picture evidence of the effect on plants re radionic preps verses control please, ala those on my website / Case Studies? I might have a couple of good pictures soon that would help with this, can I email them to you. (thats if i can get them scanned in properly) cheers Lloyd Charles
OT: World of Weeds
Off topic: David Quammen is one of my favorite nature writers. I was glad to see this article posted, on the dismal topic of how we are destroying the natural world. http://www.well.com/user/davidu/weeds.html David Robison
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
- Original Message - From: Garuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. Lloyd Trials we have done with our preparations have shown that 250mls per hectare is about the lowest amount I would suggest you apply for 1:10 hand potentised preps. More is probably OK for most circumstances, however less is definitely not suggested - by me anyway. Tests are good Glen A Thanks Glen With single potencies I use the instrument to potentise the tank load - thats easy - for combinations I have been potentising a twenty litre drum of each then adding those to the tank - works out to about 750ml / ha of each. I also believe that combinations made with an instrument (say four weed peppers on the plate potentised into a tank at once) are far less effective than making the four singly with the same instrument and mixing in the tank, my dowsing says the extra trouble is worth it. Many will disagree with this (my instrument maker for sure thinks I am wrong) For these potentised remedies to work in anything like the manner that we talk of, the energy pattern must be locked into the original substance that we potentise, the water (or other medium) that we use later to spread it over the treated area can have no dilution effect on the actual potentised substance so yes I think your 250ml is low enough. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: World of Weeds
- Original Message - From: Dave Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: OT: World of Weeds Off topic: David Quammen is one of my favorite nature writers. I was glad to see this article posted, on the dismal topic of how we are destroying the natural world. http://www.well.com/user/davidu/weeds.html David Robison Hi David Thought you might enjoy this bit of wisdom from Rudyard Kipling 'at the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased' and the epitaph drear A fool lies here - who tried to poison the weeds Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
Thanks Peter for the great post. Could I ask the area you covered with the seven ton of sand? Is it still working? I ask this because a site in the Adelaide hills that had Kites protecting it from rabbits, is still rabbit rabbit free twenty years after a bush fire took the fences and the Kites.. One can watch the rabbits running feet from the simple fire wire fence and not looking like entering the protected property. Gil Peter Michael Bacchus wrote: Hi James and B.D.Now friends, The possum pepper I was talking about was not potentised but mixed very dilutely into sand that passed through a 7mm. screen at the rate of 110gr. / 7tonne batch.
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:28 AM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils In a message dated 3/13/03 7:56:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question is what is vitality and what enlivens it in the soil. James when we get that figured out we will be able to retire on the proceeds. Are you'all kiddin'??? Put away the radionics instruments, pick up your buckets and stirring sticks insert 500, bc, and equisetum; stir and apply. This will break the needle off of your vitality meter. When you are ready I have several stirring machines available. This has been my hesitation with radionics, field broadcasters, saw-tees, etc. as oposed to conventional bd stirring and spraying and praying. My soils and my clients have an unmistakable vitality that whispers in your ear from across the street, beckoning the observer to come and see, one application does the trick, subsequent apps serve to increase not to break your chops.sstorch I guess that does look kinda dumb when you put it up on its own! Ah well! late nights and junk food will do that. But hey - why does it have to be as opposed to why not 'in concert with' . I dont see this as a competition between different ways of doing things! And as for conventional, I reckon anybody that called Steve Storch conventional would be delivering a huge insult. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: UPDATE ON HUGH IN OZ?
A cloudbuster is an orgone generator, it keeps the energy moving. Reich's accumulator did just that, it accumulated it. The accumulator does not differentiate between negative and positive orgone energy, it accumulates it all, hence the danger of a powerful accumulator. The cloudbuster is not as powerful, but safer, not damage to the user. DwayneDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online
Fermented foods in China, book review
Here is a book review on fermented foods in China. When you think about (EM) Effective Microorganisms from Japan and (IMO) Indigenous Microoganisms from Korea, you realize you can learn about agricultural applications of fermented soil and foliar cultures by learning about fermented foods and microbiology.Soil biology and microbial applications become clearer when you study the whole process and the culture from which they emerge. Regards, Steve Diver == Book review in: Food Research International Volume 35, Issue 6 , 2002 , Pages 595-596 By Danji Fukushima Noda Institute for Scientific Research Noda-shi Chiba-ken 278-0037 Japan Science and Civilization in China, Volume 6, Part V: Fermentations and Food Science H. T. Huang. Cambridge University Press, 2001, pp. 741. ISBN 0-521-6527-7. Price: $150.00 This book is part of Science and Civilisation in China series and focused on the scientific basis and historical background of the fermentations and food processing technologies that are the mainstay of the Chinese dietary system. The Introduction described in Chapter (a) begins with a survey of the food resources in ancient China, and an account of how the food materials were prepared, cooked, and presented for consumption. It is followed by Chapter (b), which is a review on the literature and sources used in exploring the processing technology. The main topic appears in Chapter (c): the fermentation technology and its evolution to the production of alcoholic drinks in their various manifestations. Included also is a comparison of the very different technologies between East Asia and the West for converting grains into alcoholic beverages and an explanation of the reason for this difference. The next topic discussed in Chapter (d) is the processing of soybeans to convert to palatable, nutritious food products, such as bean curds (non-fermented) or soy nuggets, soy pastes, soy sauce (fermented), and others. Chapter (e) is on food processing and preservation, including pasta and filamentous noodles. The subsequent topic described in Chapter (f) is tea processing. Chapter (g) relates to nutrition, which is focused on the natural history of disease in China due to nutritional deficiency. Chapter (h) ends the volume with a series of reflections on how nature, technology, and human intervention have induced the discovery and innovation of processed foods in traditional China. The most characteristic feature in the fermentation technology in East Asia is the outstanding role of molded grain mass of Aspergillus, Rhizopus, and/or Mucor, known as chhu or koji. This unique ingredient, mold ferment, was developed originally for making alcoholic drinks from grains in ancient China, but there was no parallel invention in the early civilization in the West. The author has ascribed this difference to the nature (cultivated grains and environment) and technology (prior art of fabricating a pottery steamer) through the speculation from ancient classical literature. In China, the grains, which are millet and rice, contain soft kernels that can be directly boiled or steamed. The climate in China is hot and humid in summer. Plant residues of both grains are favorable to fungal growth. As a result, the air over the Neolithic communities in China might have been loaded with spores of these fungi. The conditions thus promoted must have been appropriate for spores to find a suitable site on the steamed granules to stimulate germination and growth thereafter. On the other hand, in ancient Sumeria and Egypt, the major grains were wheat and barley. Their hard kernels had to be ground into meal or flour before they could be cooked. A smooth paste prepared from flour would have a limited surface to attract airborne fungal spores. Further, in the dry climate of the Near East, the air over the Neolithic communities was probably deficient of the desired type of fungi. Furthermore in these situations, there was the prior art of fabricating a pottery steamer, by which they could prepare granules heavily laden with water. Contrary to this speculation by the author, the recent experimental data (Yamashita, 1997) on mold ferment clearly show that there is scarcely contamination of fungus spores from air to grains. Most of the spores come from uncooked grains, husks, straw, etc.; fungi grow better in uncooked grains rather than in cooked grains, as long as soaked and cracked grains are used. Moreover, it is possible to make alcoholic drinks in a natural way by using uncooked grains only. Therefore, there must have been adequate fungal growth on a cracked barley or wheat mass in the ancient West. In fact, uncooked wheat or barley is mostly used in the making of mold ferment at present in Deng and Bao). The situation without parallel invention on mold ferment between East and West probably depends upon the difference in the acceptability of fungi. In the ancient West, they would not have
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Dear Friends, I will be very grateful, if anyone , can give me some information or suggestions on how to control Mites in Organic Tea, especially Red Spider Mite ( Oligonycus coffea ) I work on a Organic Tea Plantation in South India, where we have also started started to appreciate the principles of BD farming and thus, very much in its infancy !! Thanking you, With Kind Regards Anil Dharmapalan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Diver Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fermented foods in China, book review Here is a book review on fermented foods in China. When you think about (EM) Effective Microorganisms from Japan and (IMO) Indigenous Microoganisms from Korea, you realize you can learn about agricultural applications of fermented soil and foliar cultures by learning about fermented foods and microbiology.Soil biology and microbial applications become clearer when you study the whole process and the culture from which they emerge. Regards, Steve Diver == Book review in: Food Research International Volume 35, Issue 6 , 2002 , Pages 595-596 By Danji Fukushima Noda Institute for Scientific Research Noda-shi Chiba-ken 278-0037 Japan Science and Civilization in China, Volume 6, Part V: Fermentations and Food Science H. T. Huang. Cambridge University Press, 2001, pp. 741. ISBN 0-521-6527-7. Price: $150.00 This book is part of Science and Civilisation in China series and focused on the scientific basis and historical background of the fermentations and food processing technologies that are the mainstay of the Chinese dietary system. The Introduction described in Chapter (a) begins with a survey of the food resources in ancient China, and an account of how the food materials were prepared, cooked, and presented for consumption. It is followed by Chapter (b), which is a review on the literature and sources used in exploring the processing technology. The main topic appears in Chapter (c): the fermentation technology and its evolution to the production of alcoholic drinks in their various manifestations. Included also is a comparison of the very different technologies between East Asia and the West for converting grains into alcoholic beverages and an explanation of the reason for this difference. The next topic discussed in Chapter (d) is the processing of soybeans to convert to palatable, nutritious food products, such as bean curds (non-fermented) or soy nuggets, soy pastes, soy sauce (fermented), and others. Chapter (e) is on food processing and preservation, including pasta and filamentous noodles. The subsequent topic described in Chapter (f) is tea processing. Chapter (g) relates to nutrition, which is focused on the natural history of disease in China due to nutritional deficiency. Chapter (h) ends the volume with a series of reflections on how nature, technology, and human intervention have induced the discovery and innovation of processed foods in traditional China. The most characteristic feature in the fermentation technology in East Asia is the outstanding role of molded grain mass of Aspergillus, Rhizopus, and/or Mucor, known as chhu or koji. This unique ingredient, mold ferment, was developed originally for making alcoholic drinks from grains in ancient China, but there was no parallel invention in the early civilization in the West. The author has ascribed this difference to the nature (cultivated grains and environment) and technology (prior art of fabricating a pottery steamer) through the speculation from ancient classical literature. In China, the grains, which are millet and rice, contain soft kernels that can be directly boiled or steamed. The climate in China is hot and humid in summer. Plant residues of both grains are favorable to fungal growth. As a result, the air over the Neolithic communities in China might have been loaded with spores of these fungi. The conditions thus promoted must have been appropriate for spores to find a suitable site on the steamed granules to stimulate germination and growth thereafter. On the other hand, in ancient Sumeria and Egypt, the major grains were wheat and barley. Their hard kernels had to be ground into meal or flour before they could be cooked. A smooth paste prepared from flour would have a limited surface to attract airborne fungal spores. Further, in the dry climate of the Near East, the air over the Neolithic communities was probably deficient of the desired type of fungi. Furthermore in these situations, there was the prior art of fabricating a pottery steamer, by which they could prepare granules heavily laden with water. Contrary to this speculation by the author, the recent experimental data (Yamashita, 1997) on mold ferment clearly show that there is scarcely contamination of fungus spores from air to grains. Most of the spores come from uncooked grains, husks, straw, etc.; fungi
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
see below - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants. Dear Glen, What was the qualitative difference between the radionically potentised preparations and the hand succussing? It would be hard to put it up as a valid test if both doses were not derived from the same substance. One batch of preps could vary very markedly from those prepared at a different time. They were developed from the same base essence Were the symptom pictures the same at both times? The essence used was known to develop a dramatic onesided effect in humans We had three people trial the difference The effect of the hand done one was so dramatic on one subject that they needed the antidote within minutes. The box produced one had not such effect. I may have used the box incorrectly however I did follow the instructions. AS I say I need to do more such trials before anything really conclusive. We have just got onto other things lately. You may be right that your manually potentised preps are better than radionically prepared preps, I am not saying better I am say 'act differently' but somehow it is important to compare apples with apples and that it is the same parameters that are being tested. An agronomist friend of mine claims that before you can visually see a difference in a pasture there would have to be at least 25% difference to be able to see it. I have looked at the problem of chromas as a measurement indicator, however much of the skill with this type of qualitative analysis is in the evaluation. Different viewers will put different interpretations on the chromas. Quality such as that one substance was better than another cannot be ascertained without first setting the parameters that indicate quality. Could we do it by comparison of Brix levels, and would that be an overall comparison of quality? Certainly of effect. The problems of how to set up an experiment so the results can be considered valid are a biometricians nightmare. A trial could never be considered conclusive if it was based only on one experiment on one plant. Maybe what is needed is the same sort of dedication shown by Lili Kolisko or Maria Thun of trying to test for the effects of substance and forces. that would require the financial support of those who have the most to gain.Would the New Zealand Biodynamic Association be prepared to support you in a long term evaluation project. They have not been so far so, no reason to believe they would in the future. They are not interested in any form of homeopathic or radionic research here. Ostriches mate. To date BD researchers - unless they come from Europe - do not rate as having any valid reason for even being members of the Assn, and definitely not to be listened too. They would rather bumble along believing the half cooked ideas of their ideologs, and recant their errors every few years, than listen to experience. So be it. NZ Demeter growers are the lowest priority for us to supply to, Strange really. Maybe the Ozzie BDA would be interested it seems you have a much livelier open minded group going on there. Who knows we maybe able to fund such a project in the near future ourselves. We have a significant research budget allocated this year. re acceptance of radionics. put the proof on paper and get the research through a official channel. I have been amazed at the doors flinging open to us since we have the Hortresearch documents on our warmth spray. We now exist. The industry was happy to loose $110 million last spring, and still not invest in a $10 bottle of our product - on the market and advertised for 5 years - to do a trial for themselves. Go figure. I have learnt my lesson. cheers Glen A
Re: UPDATE ON HUGH IN OZ?
Dear Dwayne, >From this and your other post it looks like I'd be interested in your cloudbuster's design. Reich's original cloudbuster was intended specifically to suck up DOR and channel it into running water, as were Reich's medical DORbusters, which were smaller versions of the same sort. Though I am not currently working with cloudbusters I've spent roughly 18 years investigating the subject via such folks as James De Meo, Joel Carlinsky, and a fellow from out in Ojai, California whose name escapes me at the moment, all of whom attest to the kind of care that should go into operating such equipment. Not Trevor Constable, though I've encountered a good bit of material about him, as well as another Californian by the name of Bob Nelson and an Idahoan by the name of Jerome Eden. I've also seen several designs, some much more effective, and thus potentially more dangerous, than others. It's quite possible yours is a relatively safe design. Many years back a fellow Georgian, Galen Hieronymus built and sold some cloudbusters that were virtually harmless, and I've built a couple pretty harmless ones myself back when I didn't understand their design potentials nearly as well as I do today. So it might be interesting to see what your design is like and discuss what might be done to more closely approach Reich's design which he wrote about using in his last book CONTACT WITH SPACE, a bootleg copy of which I once read courtesy of someone who knew the fellow who stole a copy from the Reich archives at Organon in Maine (administered by Mary Higgins who never permitted anyone any access to Reich's papers, including Christopher Bird, a friend, author and researcher who otherwise did extensive research towards writing a book about Reich's orgone research. Well, enough said. I'd love to know what you are working with. Best, Hugh Lovel Hugh, I have not heard of anyone being injured with a cloudbuster, maybe you are confusing them with Reich's orgone accumulator which were dangerous. The worst I have heard of in relation to cloudbusters is a possible headache if touched, and even that we do not experience with the two I have built. Cloudbusters are orgone generators, keeps the energy flowing. They do open holes in the chemtrails when spewing is going on, they do attract moisture when in the area, they can divert and temper the wind, I have yet to experience anything negative with their use. Two years ago our total rainfall amounted to 3 1/2 in an area that only has 9 1/2 average anyway. Last year we had here at our place 10 measured and this year around 3 to date. I see only positive results with their use. Dwayne Do you Yahoo!? http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/wh3/prod/>Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
James Hedley writes: Dear Glen, What was the qualitative difference between the radionically potentised preparations and the hand succussing? It would be hard to put it up as a valid test if both doses were not derived from the same substance. One batch of preps could vary very markedly from those prepared at a different time. Were the symptom pictures the same at both times? You may be right that your manually potentised preps are better than radionically prepared preps, but somehow it is important to compare apples with apples and that it is the same parameters that are being tested. An agronomist friend of mine claims that before you can visually see a difference in a pasture there would have to be at least 25% difference to be able to see it.. . . . Kind regards James Dear Glen, James, et. al., I think it was generous of James to say that Glen may be right that his manually potentized preps are better then radionically prepared preps. Which is not to suggest that James's radionically potentized preps are better either. But I might remind both that in Steiner's agriculture course he remarks how the enthusiasm of the practitioner for his method enters into his remedies, and it counts for a lot. So it seems to me that both Glen and James might make remedies with great enthusiasm. A couple years ago James' story about the Portugese milipedes in Gulgong and how he got rid of them with his radionic instrument and spraying was a great example of enthusiasm and its effectiveness. Personally I once shared Glen's view that manually potentized preps simply had to be better. But I found myself having to be very fussy about measurments and once in a while I caught myself making mistakes in one fashion or another. My enthusiasm suffered, and I tried a few radionic potentizations of water. My results were good, so my enthusiasm for making radionic potencies grew a bit. Harvey Lisle criticized and could generally tell by dowsing which were radionic and which were manually diluted and succussed. After all, that information is there in the ethers. But instead of considering the results he simply dismissed the radionic potencies as dead. This was an opinion he and I had shared to a few years earlier at a radionic conference when we had first seen radionic BD preps made with a hieronymus instrument and a double dial rate setting. I felt the enthusiasm that went into my radionic preps (which were prepared by Lorraine Cahill with her Malcolm Rae instrument) was definitely not dead and that he was mixing dowsing with prejudice--always a bad combination. I must admit to a contrary streak and this had the effect of hardening my resolve to investigate radionic potencies, and I'm not at all sorry I have. In the process I've found that radionics is quick, clean, precise and sure. All of these add fire to my enthusiasm for radionics. I don't think radionics is any end all or be all. I think we each potentially have the power to make potencies without any equipment--just our own bodies and spirits, our minds, hearts and wills. I think that way will grow in peoples' enthusiasms and will become the method of preference for the folks of tomorrow, as it was for that guy back a couple thousand years ago in Palestine. Right now people are crawling, or they are walking on crutches. That's okay. It just isn't the wave of the future is all. Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
In a message dated 3/13/03 7:56:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question is what is vitality and what enlivens it in the soil. James when we get that figured out we will be able to retire on the proceeds. Are you'all kiddin'??? Put away the radionics instruments, pick up your buckets and stirring sticks insert 500, bc, and equisetum; stir and apply. This will break the needle off of your vitality meter. When you are ready I have several stirring machines available. This has been my hesitation with radionics, field broadcasters, saw-tees, etc. as oposed to conventional bd stirring and spraying and praying. My soils and my clients have an unmistakable vitality that whispers in your ear from across the street, beckoning the observer to come and see, one application does the trick, subsequent apps serve to increase not to break your chops.sstorch Dear Steve, Sorry but I left stirring machines out in discussing manual and radionic methods and the enthusiasm of practitioners. Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: delaying budbreak with FB
Dear Ron, Maybe. I haven't given it a good college try yet, whereas I have had salutary effects on seedling in cold frames with this kind of spray program. One of the problems with using a field broadcaster for something like this is it gets your whole entire property and does it all day, when maybe you want to hold back just one thing. Maybe if you added a high C potency along with just that portion of your property that you want treated banded to it, then stuck it in the well for a couple hours each evening and the other remedy with its map in the other well for a couple hours the next morning. Then back and forth each evening and morning. It sure is worth a try and should be easier than spraying. I just never thought of it that way and haven't tried it. Worth a try. Best, Hugh Hugh, Can these kinds of treatments such as described below, be made through more active use of the Field Broadcaster? Maybe by altering the potency of the BD prep reagents, putting in and taking out reagents, adding homeopathic dilution's of various elements, etc..? Ron -Original Message- From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: delaying budbreak with FB Dear Laura, There is a lot of potential for fine tuning by using tandem sprays of the BD preps. It's another job to do, but with a radionic instrument you might just fill up the sprayer with water and give it a homeopathic radionic treatment of a BD potency and then spray. What I would try for holding back the sap is an evening spray of the oak bark (505) spray followed in tandem with a morning spray of horsetail (508). This holds back watery growth, so it also is a good combination for preventing fungus and blights. Best, Hugh Lovel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: delaying budbreak with FB Hi Laura Did you have any success with your broadcaster - slowing the vines down? Hugh and all other FB users this is my first season with my FB from Hugh. We had an unusually warm winter and still warmer spring (30 C yesterday) with lots of rain fall. The result is that my grapevines are hurdling towards budbreak much faster than I can prune. I am looking for advise on how to slow them down, hold the sap back ... ? I had a look at your website recently and recommend it to all (especially newcomers to BD) - I have read and heard a lot about the plant 'gestures' associated with BD - in Alex Podolinskys books,-also Allan Balliet said about his own home garden plants 'standing to attention' for weeks after spraying preps, Hugh Lovel and others have said similar things, all over my head until I SAW IT in your pictures of the vines - particularly the picture of the red variety in the 'a little about Biodynamics', this is a classic case of 'a picture worth a thousand words'. We have a lot of wine grapes near us so I am used to the look of commercial chemical nutrition vines - yours sure are different - I also observed this growth pattern at the Castagna vineyard at Beechworth in NE Victoria (they farm Biodynamic) - then went on to an organic vineyard where I am helping install a broadcaster pipe and it was totally absent - these people have been doing some BD but are in the process of falling off the (Podolinsky regulated) cart, and have slipped back to organic management, their vines have a similar growth habit as chemical farmed ones do. Anyway thanks for putting the link to your site on BDnow for us to see. Cheers Lloyd Charles Visit our website at: www.unionag.org Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
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Anif Dear, For this I would use homeopathically potentized biodynamic horn clay plus stinging nettle sprayed or treated radionically in the afternoon. Then an evening treatment of homeopathic biodynamic yarrow remedy (502) followed the next morning with homeopathic biodynamic valerian remedy (507). The treatment might need to be repeated a few times. I could explain why but it would take some time and here it is very late at night. What are your access to biodynamic remedies and what would be your means of applying them? Best wishes, Hugh Lovel, Georgia, USA Dear Friends, I will be very grateful, if anyone , can give me some information or suggestions on how to control Mites in Organic Tea, especially Red Spider Mite ( Oligonycus coffea ) I work on a Organic Tea Plantation in South India, where we have also started started to appreciate the principles of BD farming and thus, very much in its infancy !! Thanking you, With Kind Regards Anil Dharmapalan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Diver Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fermented foods in China, book review Here is a book review on fermented foods in China. When you think about (EM) Effective Microorganisms from Japan and (IMO) Indigenous Microoganisms from Korea, you realize you can learn about agricultural applications of fermented soil and foliar cultures by learning about fermented foods and microbiology.Soil biology and microbial applications become clearer when you study the whole process and the culture from which they emerge. Regards, Steve Diver == Book review in: Food Research International Volume 35, Issue 6 , 2002 , Pages 595-596 By Danji Fukushima Noda Institute for Scientific Research Noda-shi Chiba-ken 278-0037 Japan Science and Civilization in China, Volume 6, Part V: Fermentations and Food Science H. T. Huang. Cambridge University Press, 2001, pp. 741. ISBN 0-521-6527-7. Price: $150.00 This book is part of Science and Civilisation in China series and focused on the scientific basis and historical background of the fermentations and food processing technologies that are the mainstay of the Chinese dietary system. The Introduction described in Chapter (a) begins with a survey of the food resources in ancient China, and an account of how the food materials were prepared, cooked, and presented for consumption. It is followed by Chapter (b), which is a review on the literature and sources used in exploring the processing technology. The main topic appears in Chapter (c): the fermentation technology and its evolution to the production of alcoholic drinks in their various manifestations. Included also is a comparison of the very different technologies between East Asia and the West for converting grains into alcoholic beverages and an explanation of the reason for this difference. The next topic discussed in Chapter (d) is the processing of soybeans to convert to palatable, nutritious food products, such as bean curds (non-fermented) or soy nuggets, soy pastes, soy sauce (fermented), and others. Chapter (e) is on food processing and preservation, including pasta and filamentous noodles. The subsequent topic described in Chapter (f) is tea processing. Chapter (g) relates to nutrition, which is focused on the natural history of disease in China due to nutritional deficiency. Chapter (h) ends the volume with a series of reflections on how nature, technology, and human intervention have induced the discovery and innovation of processed foods in traditional China. The most characteristic feature in the fermentation technology in East Asia is the outstanding role of molded grain mass of Aspergillus, Rhizopus, and/or Mucor, known as chhu or koji. This unique ingredient, mold ferment, was developed originally for making alcoholic drinks from grains in ancient China, but there was no parallel invention in the early civilization in the West. The author has ascribed this difference to the nature (cultivated grains and environment) and technology (prior art of fabricating a pottery steamer) through the speculation from ancient classical literature. In China, the grains, which are millet and rice, contain soft kernels that can be directly boiled or steamed. The climate in China is hot and humid in summer. Plant residues of both grains are favorable to fungal growth. As a result, the air over the Neolithic communities in China might have been loaded with spores of these fungi. The conditions thus promoted must have been appropriate for spores to find a suitable site on the steamed granules to stimulate germination and growth thereafter. On the other hand, in ancient Sumeria and Egypt, the major grains were wheat and barley. Their hard kernels had to be ground into meal or flour before they could be cooked. A smooth paste prepared from flour would have a limited surface to attract airborne fungal
